Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 42, Issue 14

2017-11-06 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL


Katherine
I'm so sorry that you had to say goodby to this adorable little being... 
.. your "eulogy" had me in tears...
but by the time I finished it I felt that _ I _  had known him as 
well  I'm so glad you had as many years together as you did... and 
for your kindness in looking after so many Felv kitties whose luck was 
that much less even than Krammers  Their good luck was in finding a 
home with you



BOb

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Re: [Felvtalk] Grieving for K

2017-11-06 Thread Pam Doore
Dear Katherine, My deepest condolences on the loss of your soul-mate!
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Re: [Felvtalk] Grieving for K

2017-11-06 Thread Amani Oakley
Katherine

The pain in your heart is so clear for everyone to see. I am so very sorry for 
the wrenching loss you suffered with the loss of Krammer, and also for the 
terrible loss of one kitten after another and then Jazz as well. There is just 
nothing that will soothe the soul-searing loss, except for the passage of time 
and the knowledge that you gave these deserving little angels, a lot of love, 
warmth and comfort, which they clearly wouldn’t have had without your 
exceptional kindness. Keep that thought close as you mourn the loss of Krammer.

Amani



From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Katherine K.
Sent: November-06-17 8:57 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Grieving for K

Hi everyone,

I lost my perfect little tuxedo soulmate last week. He was my first cat and the 
best friend ever. At age 11 we discovered he was FeLV+, likely contracted from 
some kittens we were fostering at the time. We lost all kittens within a year, 
went on to foster another FeLV kitty, Jazz, for a year before we lost him to 
the virus too. Krammer hung in there for 4 more years with this stupid virus, 
through many ups and downs. We loved each other dearly and I believe that is 
what kept him going until the ripe old age of 15. His nose tumor had grown all 
year. It distorted his face, leaked fluid and required several daily cleanings 
for the last few months. He had declined a lot and was down to 6.5 pounds at 
the end, but was still eating and using the bathroom normally. A week ago I 
discovered his tumor was beginning to affect the roof of his mouth and I didn't 
want to wait until it ruptured there. That would have caused him unnecessary 
suffering. We made the difficult decision to take him to the vet. I picked up 
his ashes on Friday and they are keeping me company, as well as plenty of 
cuddles from my other (non FeLV) kitty.

Thanks to everyone for the support over the years. Here is what I shared on my 
Facebook page about Krammer last week:

Today I had to say a terribly hard goodbye to my best little buddy Krammer. 
Last December, I noticed he had a slightly bloody nose. It turned out to be a 
nasal tumor, and he fought the cancer for nearly a year. He was 15 years old. 
Krammer was a Craigslist kitty. We picked him up one Friday after work in 2005 
from a Seinfeld fan who didn’t know how to spell Kramer. The funny name stuck, 
and produced many, many nicknames.

Sweet Krammie, I’ll miss your perfectly pink nose and toes. I’ll miss the way 
you begged to be picked up and put in the warm dryer after I finished folding 
all the clothes. You’d settle down and purr. I’ll miss your adorable nose 
wrinkle that appeared when you’d ferociously bite Mr. Squirrel during playtime, 
and the way your neck smelled faintly like maple syrup. I’ll miss laughing 
about your weird obsession with licking the blinds and laying on crinkly paper. 
I’ll miss how you would come running whenever we whistled “Morning” from Peer 
Gynt. That became your theme song. I’ll miss your ridiculous call-of-the-wild 
yowl whenever Lady Bird wouldn’t play with you, even the ones that woke me up 
in the middle of the night.

I’ll miss how every night you would come walking up the side of the bed, 
purring and giving out head bumps, and paw at the blanket for me to let you 
under the covers. You’d crawl in, turn around, and settle down for the night. 
Though you were never a lap cat, these cuddles more than made up for it.

I’ll miss playing chase with you on my lunch breaks. You were so excited to see 
me, you’d race through the house, begging for me to catch you and give you a 
big hug. I’ll miss dressing you up in silly outfits, which you mostly just 
purred through. Since it’s Halloween, I hope you won’t mind if I share a few 
with your fans.

I’m grateful to everyone who enjoyed and appreciated his photos over the years. 
He was a delightful subject to photograph. Once during a photoshoot of my dad’s 
jewelry, he walked over and sat down in the middle, giving me a look like, “Ok, 
mom, I’m ready for my close up.” Over the last year, he really enjoyed going 
out on his harness and leash to chase bugs and lay in the sun. He was so 
curious, he enjoyed exploring new places, and I’ll always regret that we never 
got to take him camping. He was a friend to so many foster kittens and didn’t 
even mind the dogs he met. A truly wonderful little being.

I’ll miss you, sweet one.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-06 Thread dlgegg
Times like this I would like to be able to just slug them without suffering the 
consequences.
Maybe they should get their ears washed out and their minds opened up.

 Amani Oakley  wrote: 
> Totally irate. It was just so clear that they weren't prepared to look at 
> Winstrol in a new light - even with me holding a stack of serial weekly lab 
> results in my hand. 
> 
> Amani
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
> Robertson
> Sent: November-04-17 7:43 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
> help
> 
> Amani - you must have been irate when they said well maybe it wasn't FeLV in 
> the first place -- after they repeatedly told you to put Zander 
> down.ardy
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Amani Oakley
> Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 10:04 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
> help
> 
> Hi Ken
> 
> I couldn’t agree with you more, but I fear that the scientific/medical 
> evidence is thin because of the really stupid study done a decade ago, which 
> gave three cats massive doses of Winstrol (same levels as given to sled dogs) 
> and reported the resulting elevation of liver enzymes. And then, of course, 
> there is the unhelpful connection to the athletic doping scandals. Studies 
> looking into the effects of Winstrol are therefore few and far between 
> (though I have found a few). Moreover, a physician friend of mine explained 
> to me that once a drug is off-patent (as Winstrol is) then the drug companies 
> can make very little money from it, and so they will not spend money to set 
> up clinical trials, and will instead push other related drugs that are still 
> covered by a patent, so they make more money on the sale of those other drugs.
> 
> The problem is that, as far as I can determine to date, though there are lots 
> of anabolic steroids, Winstrol is the only one that seems to have this effect 
> on bone marrow to cause it to grow, create new cells, regenerate, etc, which 
> in turn causes the production of red cells, white cells and platelets from 
> the activated bone marrow. In addition, Winstrol is considered to have very 
> mild side effects in comparison to other anabolic steroids. Winstrol is also 
> found to be very quickly effective. Most of those athletes who will speak 
> about steroid use, confirm that Winstrol is one of the most effective and 
> safest of the drugs (and remember that athletes who are using steroids use 
> them at hundreds if not thousands of times the recommended doses, and they 
> "stack" them will all sorts of other steroids).
> 
> I also found, with my own vets, that even with solid proof in front of their 
> own eyes (with cats condemned to death, showing an amazing recovery), they 
> will often look for other explanations other than that it was the Winstrol. 
> As I mentioned with my little Zander, after being told by every vet I spoke 
> with that there was nothing I could do and Zander was going to die (and best 
> to put him down immediately), and being able to show serial blood results 
> weekly which showed a clear improvement from critical haematology values to 
> normal results, at the end of it all, I start hearing things like, "well 
> maybe it was never FeLV in the first place".
> 
> I agree that the way to start turning this around, for all of us who have had 
> good results or who may have a cat in the unenviable situation of having 
> little or no other options, is to speak with our vets about Winstrol. As I 
> have mentioned in previous posts, I have now used Winstrol, usually in 
> combination with at least the prednisone (with the doxycycline being added on 
> in circumstances involving something likely infectious), for a range of cat 
> problems and have had excellent results every time but once. One case was a 
> 16 year old cat with a nasal sarcoma (kept the sarcoma from causing severe 
> facial swelling, and kept my cat eating for another two years); one case was 
> a cat who came from a feral colony which I later found out had had FIV 
> rampaging through it and killing all the cats (and she came to me EXTREMELY 
> ill with a sky-high fever, tympanic abdomen and fluid around her lungs - she 
> survived when I thought there was no hope at all, and she's still with me 
> now); I have used it to avoid knee surgery for Zander when he pulled his 
> cruciate ligament; and am I currently using it now to treat a spinal lesion 
> in Pippin - a three-year old who gets flair-ups of neurological problems 
> which I tracked to a spinal lesion, and when the lesion causes swelling, 
> etc., the symptoms reappear. The combination of prednisone and Winstrol 
> appears to be the only thing that 

Re: [Felvtalk] Grieving for K

2017-11-06 Thread dlgegg
Dear, sweet Krammer, you lived and loved well, time for your reward.
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[Felvtalk] Krammer

2017-11-06 Thread Jennifer Olson
Kat, you are an amazing fur-baby Mama !
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Re: [Felvtalk] Grieving for K

2017-11-06 Thread kat
Sleep Soft, dear Krammer - you were a great cat.
 

Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 at 8:57 AM
From: "Katherine K." 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Subject: [Felvtalk] Grieving for K



Hi everyone,

 
I lost my perfect little tuxedo soulmate last week. He was my first cat and the best friend ever. At age 11 we discovered he was FeLV+, likely contracted from some kittens we were fostering at the time. We lost all kittens within a year, went on to foster another FeLV kitty, Jazz, for a year before we lost him to the virus too. Krammer hung in there for 4 more years with this stupid virus, through many ups and downs. We loved each other dearly and I believe that is what kept him going until the ripe old age of 15. His nose tumor had grown all year. It distorted his face, leaked fluid and required several daily cleanings for the last few months. He had declined a lot and was down to 6.5 pounds at the end, but was still eating and using the bathroom normally. A week ago I discovered his tumor was beginning to affect the roof of his mouth and I didn't want to wait until it ruptured there. That would have caused him unnecessary suffering. We made the difficult decision to take him to the vet. I picked up his ashes on Friday and they are keeping me company, as well as plenty of cuddles from my other (non FeLV) kitty.

Thanks to everyone for the support over the years. Here is what I shared on my Facebook page about Krammer last week:

Today I had to say a terribly hard goodbye to my best little buddy Krammer. Last December, I noticed he had a slightly bloody nose. It turned out to be a nasal tumor, and he fought the cancer for nearly a year. He was 15 years old. Krammer was a Craigslist kitty. We picked him up one Friday after work in 2005 from a Seinfeld fan who didn’t know how to spell Kramer. The funny name stuck, and produced many, many nicknames.
Sweet Krammie, I’ll miss your perfectly pink nose and toes. I’ll miss the way you begged to be picked up and put in the warm dryer after I finished folding all the clothes. You’d settle down and purr. I’ll miss your adorable nose wrinkle that appeared when you’d ferociously bite Mr. Squirrel during playtime, and the way your neck smelled faintly like maple syrup. I’ll miss laughing about your weird obsession with licking the blinds and laying on crinkly paper. I’ll miss how you would come running whenever we whistled “Morning” from Peer Gynt. That became your theme song. I’ll miss your ridiculous call-of-the-wild yowl whenever Lady Bird wouldn’t play with you, even the ones that woke me up in the middle of the night. 


I’ll miss how every night you would come walking up the side of the bed, purring and giving out head bumps, and paw at the blanket for me to let you under the covers. You’d crawl in, turn around, and settle down for the night. Though you were never a lap cat, these cuddles more than made up for it.

I’ll miss playing chase with you on my lunch breaks. You were so excited to see me, you’d race through the house, begging for me to catch you and give you a big hug. I’ll miss dressing you up in silly outfits, which you mostly just purred through. Since it’s Halloween, I hope you won’t mind if I share a few with your fans.

I’m grateful to everyone who enjoyed and appreciated his photos over the years. He was a delightful subject to photograph. Once during a photoshoot of my dad’s jewelry, he walked over and sat down in the middle, giving me a look like, “Ok, mom, I’m ready for my close up.” Over the last year, he really enjoyed going out on his harness and leash to chase bugs and lay in the sun. He was so curious, he enjoyed exploring new places, and I’ll always regret that we never got to take him camping. He was a friend to so many foster kittens and didn’t even mind the dogs he met. A truly wonderful little being.

I’ll miss you, sweet one.


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[Felvtalk] Grieving for K

2017-11-06 Thread Katherine K.
Hi everyone,

I lost my perfect little tuxedo soulmate last week. He was my first cat and
the best friend ever. At age 11 we discovered he was FeLV+, likely
contracted from some kittens we were fostering at the time. We lost all
kittens within a year, went on to foster another FeLV kitty, Jazz, for a
year before we lost him to the virus too. Krammer hung in there for 4 more
years with this stupid virus, through many ups and downs. We loved each
other dearly and I believe that is what kept him going until the ripe old
age of 15. His nose tumor had grown all year. It distorted his face, leaked
fluid and required several daily cleanings for the last few months. He had
declined a lot and was down to 6.5 pounds at the end, but was still eating
and using the bathroom normally. A week ago I discovered his tumor was
beginning to affect the roof of his mouth and I didn't want to wait until
it ruptured there. That would have caused him unnecessary suffering. We
made the difficult decision to take him to the vet. I picked up his ashes
on Friday and they are keeping me company, as well as plenty of cuddles
from my other (non FeLV) kitty.

Thanks to everyone for the support over the years. Here is what I shared on
my Facebook page about Krammer last week:

Today I had to say a terribly hard goodbye to my best little buddy Krammer.
Last December, I noticed he had a slightly bloody nose. It turned out to be
a nasal tumor, and he fought the cancer for nearly a year. He was 15 years
old. Krammer was a Craigslist kitty. We picked him up one Friday after work
in 2005 from a Seinfeld fan who didn’t know how to spell Kramer. The funny
name stuck, and produced many, many nicknames.

Sweet Krammie, I’ll miss your perfectly pink nose and toes. I’ll miss the
way you begged to be picked up and put in the warm dryer after I finished
folding all the clothes. You’d settle down and purr. I’ll miss your
adorable nose wrinkle that appeared when you’d ferociously bite Mr.
Squirrel during playtime, and the way your neck smelled faintly like maple
syrup. I’ll miss laughing about your weird obsession with licking the
blinds and laying on crinkly paper. I’ll miss how you would come running
whenever we whistled “Morning” from Peer Gynt. That became your theme song.
I’ll miss your ridiculous call-of-the-wild yowl whenever Lady Bird wouldn’t
play with you, even the ones that woke me up in the middle of the night.

I’ll miss how every night you would come walking up the side of the bed,
purring and giving out head bumps, and paw at the blanket for me to let you
under the covers. You’d crawl in, turn around, and settle down for the
night. Though you were never a lap cat, these cuddles more than made up for
it.

I’ll miss playing chase with you on my lunch breaks. You were so excited to
see me, you’d race through the house, begging for me to catch you and give
you a big hug. I’ll miss dressing you up in silly outfits, which you mostly
just purred through. Since it’s Halloween, I hope you won’t mind if I share
a few with your fans.

I’m grateful to everyone who enjoyed and appreciated his photos over the
years. He was a delightful subject to photograph. Once during a photoshoot
of my dad’s jewelry, he walked over and sat down in the middle, giving me a
look like, “Ok, mom, I’m ready for my close up.” Over the last year, he
really enjoyed going out on his harness and leash to chase bugs and lay in
the sun. He was so curious, he enjoyed exploring new places, and I’ll
always regret that we never got to take him camping. He was a friend to so
many foster kittens and didn’t even mind the dogs he met. A truly wonderful
little being.

I’ll miss you, sweet one.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-06 Thread Amani Oakley
Close Ardy - Stanozolol.

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
Robertson
Sent: November-04-17 7:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
help

Hi Marlene - I am so interested to hear about his treatment, very excited that 
they use it for FeLV treatment, how wonderful. I hope sincerely that they use 
it in conjunction with Doxycyclene and Prednisolone. I personally used the 
liquid form of Winstrol (it's other name here is Stanizolol I think - is this 
correct Amani?). But I believe Amani used the pills. The reason I went with 
oral liquid form is because Tigger took liquid easier than pills and it came in 
"his favorite" salmon flavor!

Best of luck to you with the treatment of your little friend.
Ardy


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marlene melpignano
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 5:04 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
help

Dear all,
Good news: Winstrol is legal in Italy for animals and is called stargate. I 
found a pharmacist who can send it to me in Belgium or I will go to Rome myself 
on Saturday, he also said it is highly used in Italy for felv cats.
What is better, pills or injections? 
I thought of pills to cause less stress, but I read it may be more toxic for 
the liver compared to the injectable one .
I am also bringing the cat to a French specialised clinic this afternoon just 
to  get a better opinion than the Belgian one.

Thanks all for your support.
Best
M

Inviato da iPhone

> Il giorno 02 nov 2017, alle ore 05:28, Ardy Robertson  
> ha scritto:
> 
> Marlene - My Tigger had an active leukemia when I began Winstrol, based on 
> his bloodwork. and he also was not eating. I gave him an appetite 
> stimulant called Mirtazapine, only a half of a 7.5 mg tablet, every 3rd day, 
> and that boosted his appetite. I also fed him the canned cat food that they 
> sell for after surgeries - it is very calorie dense but I don't remember the 
> name of it. Sometimes I had to clip a towel around him and syringe feed him a 
> little. I did not want to do that because he didn't like having me do that, 
> but I made up my mind that if was going to make it, he had to have some food 
> in him. I believe Amani knows the name of another good appetite stimulant. 
> When he would not drink any water, I gave him clam juice (we called it his 
> kitty cocktail)- he loved it. It is just shameful that Winstrol is not legal 
> for this use - they hold a grudge against it because of the misuse of it by a 
> few athletes. So our kitties have to suffer without the one thing that can 
> help them. It is also important to combine it with the Prednisolone and the 
> Doxycyclene because the Doxy has some property whereby it prevents the virus 
> from replicating. Best of luck with his treatment!!
> 
> Ardy
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> dlg...@windstream.net
> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:47 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
> help
> 
> Don't apologize for questions, that is one way we learn.  I have had no 
> problems, but am sure Amani and others do have answers for you
> 
>  marlene melpignano  wrote: 
>> Dear All,
>> Unfortunately last FNA of my cat showed that he has either a lymphoma or a 
>> leukemia (in Belgium they are so bad that they cannot even have a conclusive 
>> result). 
>> My vet in Italy thinks I have to bring him to a university clinic to have a 
>> bone marrow exam, in order to decide whether a chemotherapy is worth while.
>> 
>> Have you had any experience with lymphoma or leukemia in Felv cats? Have you 
>> treated them or would be desperate and painful for the cat?
>> 
>> About Winstrol, the two vets were not against it, but it is illegal in 
>> Europe and they would give me something similar in case I decide not to go 
>> for chemotherapy. However, they would like to know whether your cats had 
>> already a lymphoma or leukemia when you used it or were just Felv + and also 
>> whether they had infections going on; otherwise they doubt about using 
>> doxycycline.
>> 
>> Sorry for all the questions, but I am afraid there is not much to be done, 
>> and if I want to make it a last try I have to be fast. As of today he is not 
>> eating ... 
>> 
>> Thanks for your help 
>> Marlène  
>> 
>> 
>> Inviato da iPhone
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Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-06 Thread Amani Oakley
Totally irate. It was just so clear that they weren't prepared to look at 
Winstrol in a new light - even with me holding a stack of serial weekly lab 
results in my hand. 

Amani



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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
Robertson
Sent: November-04-17 7:43 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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help

Amani - you must have been irate when they said well maybe it wasn't FeLV in 
the first place -- after they repeatedly told you to put Zander 
down.ardy


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Oakley
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 10:04 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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help

Hi Ken

I couldn’t agree with you more, but I fear that the scientific/medical evidence 
is thin because of the really stupid study done a decade ago, which gave three 
cats massive doses of Winstrol (same levels as given to sled dogs) and reported 
the resulting elevation of liver enzymes. And then, of course, there is the 
unhelpful connection to the athletic doping scandals. Studies looking into the 
effects of Winstrol are therefore few and far between (though I have found a 
few). Moreover, a physician friend of mine explained to me that once a drug is 
off-patent (as Winstrol is) then the drug companies can make very little money 
from it, and so they will not spend money to set up clinical trials, and will 
instead push other related drugs that are still covered by a patent, so they 
make more money on the sale of those other drugs.

The problem is that, as far as I can determine to date, though there are lots 
of anabolic steroids, Winstrol is the only one that seems to have this effect 
on bone marrow to cause it to grow, create new cells, regenerate, etc, which in 
turn causes the production of red cells, white cells and platelets from the 
activated bone marrow. In addition, Winstrol is considered to have very mild 
side effects in comparison to other anabolic steroids. Winstrol is also found 
to be very quickly effective. Most of those athletes who will speak about 
steroid use, confirm that Winstrol is one of the most effective and safest of 
the drugs (and remember that athletes who are using steroids use them at 
hundreds if not thousands of times the recommended doses, and they "stack" them 
will all sorts of other steroids).

I also found, with my own vets, that even with solid proof in front of their 
own eyes (with cats condemned to death, showing an amazing recovery), they will 
often look for other explanations other than that it was the Winstrol. As I 
mentioned with my little Zander, after being told by every vet I spoke with 
that there was nothing I could do and Zander was going to die (and best to put 
him down immediately), and being able to show serial blood results weekly which 
showed a clear improvement from critical haematology values to normal results, 
at the end of it all, I start hearing things like, "well maybe it was never 
FeLV in the first place".

I agree that the way to start turning this around, for all of us who have had 
good results or who may have a cat in the unenviable situation of having little 
or no other options, is to speak with our vets about Winstrol. As I have 
mentioned in previous posts, I have now used Winstrol, usually in combination 
with at least the prednisone (with the doxycycline being added on in 
circumstances involving something likely infectious), for a range of cat 
problems and have had excellent results every time but once. One case was a 16 
year old cat with a nasal sarcoma (kept the sarcoma from causing severe facial 
swelling, and kept my cat eating for another two years); one case was a cat who 
came from a feral colony which I later found out had had FIV rampaging through 
it and killing all the cats (and she came to me EXTREMELY ill with a sky-high 
fever, tympanic abdomen and fluid around her lungs - she survived when I 
thought there was no hope at all, and she's still with me now); I have used it 
to avoid knee surgery for Zander when he pulled his cruciate ligament; and am I 
currently using it now to treat a spinal lesion in Pippin - a three-year old 
who gets flair-ups of neurological problems which I tracked to a spinal lesion, 
and when the lesion causes swelling, etc., the symptoms reappear. The 
combination of prednisone and Winstrol appears to be the only thing that 
reverses the effects of the lesion. 

I think the Winstrol is seriously underutilized and cats respond very well to 
it, in a number of circumstances. Obviously, it is not a cure-all, and we've 
heard from other folks who've tried it and gotten no appreciable results, so I 
am not suggesting it is a panacea by any means. Further, I understand that FeLV 
is now thought to be caused by at