Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine???
Hi Wendy, They do make a top-opening litter box: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B0002ZS20I/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8n=284507s=kitchen But maybe Pepper is objecting to the texture of the litter on her paws? Have you tried using different litter - or even an empty litter box? Also, if nothing else works, you could get some of the doggy pee pads to put under the box - that way the urine gets absorbed by the pads makes clean-up much easier. Good Luck! Kat (Mew Jersey) On Sun, 28 Jun 2009, wendy wrote: Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:38:27 -0700 (PDT) From: wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine??? Hey guys, I haven't posted much?in the past few months.?Can hardly keep up with life offline, much less online.?I hope all of you are doing well, as well as your furbabies. I have an 'engineering' question for you guys. I have a healthy kitty, Pepper, who keeps backing up to the litter box opening and peeing, and of course it goes outside the box, and then urine pools underneath the box (I even use a Christmas tree tray under the box to catch the urine, but still it gets quite ripe after a couple of days).?She's been doing this for years and I just keep cleaning it up. But as all of you probably can identify, I hate the smell and the clean-up, and was wondering if any of you have a similar sitation with any of your cats and how you deal with it??I've tried different kitty boxes, but as long as they have an opening, the pee is going in that direction.?There's got to be an easier way to deal with this.?I was thinking maybe I could make some kind of lip on the opening edge to direct the pee to a receptacleAny ideas out there? Thanks! :) Wendy ? Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine???
They make a pad to put under nursing home/hospital patiences that is washable. I used some several years ago with a dog who was in the process of leaving this world. Another thought is the odor of the litter. None of my cats have ever accepted frangranced litter (they have all been feral). None would have considered a closed in litterbox either. Rubbermaid or knock-off totes are $4-$6 a piece. I haven't priced litterboxes lately but I would rather spend the few dollars difference on other things. On Jun 29, 2009, at 6:20 AM, Kat wrote: Hi Wendy, They do make a top-opening litter box: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B0002ZS20I/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8n=284507s=kitchen But maybe Pepper is objecting to the texture of the litter on her paws? Have you tried using different litter - or even an empty litter box? Also, if nothing else works, you could get some of the doggy pee pads to put under the box - that way the urine gets absorbed by the pads makes clean-up much easier. Good Luck! Kat (Mew Jersey) On Sun, 28 Jun 2009, wendy wrote: Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:38:27 -0700 (PDT) From: wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine??? Hey guys, I haven't posted much in the past few months. Can hardly keep up with life offline, much less online. I hope all of you are doing well, as well as your furbabies. I have an 'engineering' question for you guys. I have a healthy kitty, Pepper, who keeps backing up to the litter box opening and peeing, and of course it goes outside the box, and then urine pools underneath the box (I even use a Christmas tree tray under the box to catch the urine, but still it gets quite ripe after a couple of days). She's been doing this for years and I just keep cleaning it up. But as all of you probably can identify, I hate the smell and the clean-up, and was wondering if any of you have a similar sitation with any of your cats and how you deal with it? I've tried different kitty boxes, but as long as they have an opening, the pee is going in that direction. There's got to be an easier way to deal with this. I was thinking maybe I could make some kind of lip on the opening edge to direct the pee to a receptacle??? Any ideas out there? Thanks! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine???
Wendy, since Pepper is healthy I wouldn't bother putting any opening in the tote. I use the large Rubbermaid totes for litter boxes. Mine just jump in them. As Leroy got into his late teens, he had trouble getting in the tote. I just put a small rubbermaid stool next to it. He used that to climb in. I did save the hood of an old litter box that I set on top of one tote for when the kitties want privacy. It doesn't snap on but the tote is in a corner and it balances on the tote pretty good. The girls seem to like privacy when they poop. All of my boys have always stood up to pee. Don't know why. That's why I went to totes. For the dumpster rescues in the cat enclosure, I left the lid on the tote and cut a opening in one of the small sides. Keeps the rain out of the litter and they don't seem to have any problems getting in it. Found it easier to cut the tote after heating the side with a heat gun. A hair dryer would probably work. Then I covered the edges with duct tape so they wouldn't hurt themselves. Sharyl --- On Sun, 6/28/09, wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine??? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, June 28, 2009, 4:38 PM Hey guys, I haven't posted much in the past few months. Can hardly keep up with life offline, much less online. I hope all of you are doing well, as well as your furbabies. I have an 'engineering' question for you guys. I have a healthy kitty, Pepper, who keeps backing up to the litter box opening and peeing, and of course it goes outside the box, and then urine pools underneath the box (I even use a Christmas tree tray under the box to catch the urine, but still it gets quite ripe after a couple of days). She's been doing this for years and I just keep cleaning it up. But as all of you probably can identify, I hate the smell and the clean-up, and was wondering if any of you have a similar sitation with any of your cats and how you deal with it? I've tried different kitty boxes, but as long as they have an opening, the pee is going in that direction. There's got to be an easier way to deal with this. I was thinking maybe I could make some kind of lip on the opening edge to direct the pee to a receptacle??? Any ideas out there? Thanks! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine???
While everyone is talking about totes: They make nice shelters for cats, especially if they are insulated and filled with pine needles (Mom's ferals and four of my cats all came from a pine thicket) or straw. On Jun 29, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Sharyl wrote: Wendy, since Pepper is healthy I wouldn't bother putting any opening in the tote. I use the large Rubbermaid totes for litter boxes. Mine just jump in them. As Leroy got into his late teens, he had trouble getting in the tote. I just put a small rubbermaid stool next to it. He used that to climb in. I did save the hood of an old litter box that I set on top of one tote for when the kitties want privacy. It doesn't snap on but the tote is in a corner and it balances on the tote pretty good. The girls seem to like privacy when they poop. All of my boys have always stood up to pee. Don't know why. That's why I went to totes. For the dumpster rescues in the cat enclosure, I left the lid on the tote and cut a opening in one of the small sides. Keeps the rain out of the litter and they don't seem to have any problems getting in it. Found it easier to cut the tote after heating the side with a heat gun. A hair dryer would probably work. Then I covered the edges with duct tape so they wouldn't hurt themselves. Sharyl --- On Sun, 6/28/09, wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine??? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, June 28, 2009, 4:38 PM Hey guys, I haven't posted much in the past few months. Can hardly keep up with life offline, much less online. I hope all of you are doing well, as well as your furbabies. I have an 'engineering' question for you guys. I have a healthy kitty, Pepper, who keeps backing up to the litter box opening and peeing, and of course it goes outside the box, and then urine pools underneath the box (I even use a Christmas tree tray under the box to catch the urine, but still it gets quite ripe after a couple of days). She's been doing this for years and I just keep cleaning it up. But as all of you probably can identify, I hate the smell and the clean-up, and was wondering if any of you have a similar sitation with any of your cats and how you deal with it? I've tried different kitty boxes, but as long as they have an opening, the pee is going in that direction. There's got to be an easier way to deal with this. I was thinking maybe I could make some kind of lip on the opening edge to direct the pee to a receptacle??? Any ideas out there? Thanks! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine???
Ok, this might be a great idea! I wonder how they balance it/keep it from tumping over? It must have extra heavy plastic on the bottom. Thanks so much! I have tried other types of litter. She's just weird...lol! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ From: Kat kathryn.mund...@baesystems.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 6:20:08 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine??? Hi Wendy, They do make a top-opening litter box: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B0002ZS20I/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8n=284507s=kitchen But maybe Pepper is objecting to the texture of the litter on her paws? Have you tried using different litter - or even an empty litter box? Also, if nothing else works, you could get some of the doggy pee pads to put under the box - that way the urine gets absorbed by the pads makes clean-up much easier. Good Luck! Kat (Mew Jersey) On Sun, 28 Jun 2009, wendy wrote: Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:38:27 -0700 (PDT) From: wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine??? Hey guys, I haven't posted much in the past few months. Can hardly keep up with life offline, much less online. I hope all of you are doing well, as well as your furbabies. I have an 'engineering' question for you guys. I have a healthy kitty, Pepper, who keeps backing up to the litter box opening and peeing, and of course it goes outside the box, and then urine pools underneath the box (I even use a Christmas tree tray under the box to catch the urine, but still it gets quite ripe after a couple of days). She's been doing this for years and I just keep cleaning it up. But as all of you probably can identify, I hate the smell and the clean-up, and was wondering if any of you have a similar sitation with any of your cats and how you deal with it? I've tried different kitty boxes, but as long as they have an opening, the pee is going in that direction. There's got to be an easier way to deal with this. I was thinking maybe I could make some kind of lip on the opening edge to direct the pee to a receptacle??? Any ideas out there? Thanks! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine???
Great ideas! Thank you guys! I wish I would have known about heating the plastic before cutting. Would have thrown one less fit...lol! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 11:29:03 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine??? While everyone is talking about totes: They make nice shelters for cats, especially if they are insulated and filled with pine needles (Mom's ferals and four of my cats all came from a pine thicket) or straw. On Jun 29, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Sharyl wrote: Wendy, since Pepper is healthy I wouldn't bother putting any opening in the tote. I use the large Rubbermaid totes for litter boxes. Mine just jump in them. As Leroy got into his late teens, he had trouble getting in the tote. I just put a small rubbermaid stool next to it. He used that to climb in. I did save the hood of an old litter box that I set on top of one tote for when the kitties want privacy. It doesn't snap on but the tote is in a corner and it balances on the tote pretty good. The girls seem to like privacy when they poop. All of my boys have always stood up to pee. Don't know why. That's why I went to totes. For the dumpster rescues in the cat enclosure, I left the lid on the tote and cut a opening in one of the small sides. Keeps the rain out of the litter and they don't seem to have any problems getting in it. Found it easier to cut the tote after heating the side with a heat gun. A hair dryer would probably work. Then I covered the edges with duct tape so they wouldn't hurt themselves. Sharyl --- On Sun, 6/28/09, wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine??? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, June 28, 2009, 4:38 PM Hey guys, I haven't posted much in the past few months. Can hardly keep up with life offline, much less online. I hope all of you are doing well, as well as your furbabies. I have an 'engineering' question for you guys. I have a healthy kitty, Pepper, who keeps backing up to the litter box opening and peeing, and of course it goes outside the box, and then urine pools underneath the box (I even use a Christmas tree tray under the box to catch the urine, but still it gets quite ripe after a couple of days). She's been doing this for years and I just keep cleaning it up. But as all of you probably can identify, I hate the smell and the clean-up, and was wondering if any of you have a similar sitation with any of your cats and how you deal with it? I've tried different kitty boxes, but as long as they have an opening, the pee is going in that direction. There's got to be an easier way to deal with this. I was thinking maybe I could make some kind of lip on the opening edge to direct the pee to a receptacle??? Any ideas out there? Thanks! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine???
can u put the box in the bath tub? You need something as high or higher than the opening. I use large storage bins for liter boxes,and believe me, they can jump in them. regards, Cathy --- On Mon, 6/29/09, wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine??? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, June 29, 2009, 1:13 PM Great ideas! Thank you guys! I wish I would have known about heating the plastic before cutting. Would have thrown one less fit...lol! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 11:29:03 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine??? While everyone is talking about totes: They make nice shelters for cats, especially if they are insulated and filled with pine needles (Mom's ferals and four of my cats all came from a pine thicket) or straw. On Jun 29, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Sharyl wrote: Wendy, since Pepper is healthy I wouldn't bother putting any opening in the tote. I use the large Rubbermaid totes for litter boxes. Mine just jump in them. As Leroy got into his late teens, he had trouble getting in the tote. I just put a small rubbermaid stool next to it. He used that to climb in. I did save the hood of an old litter box that I set on top of one tote for when the kitties want privacy. It doesn't snap on but the tote is in a corner and it balances on the tote pretty good. The girls seem to like privacy when they poop. All of my boys have always stood up to pee. Don't know why. That's why I went to totes. For the dumpster rescues in the cat enclosure, I left the lid on the tote and cut a opening in one of the small sides. Keeps the rain out of the litter and they don't seem to have any problems getting in it. Found it easier to cut the tote after heating the side with a heat gun. A hair dryer would probably work. Then I covered the edges with duct tape so they wouldn't hurt themselves. Sharyl --- On Sun, 6/28/09, wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine??? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, June 28, 2009, 4:38 PM Hey guys, I haven't posted much in the past few months. Can hardly keep up with life offline, much less online. I hope all of you are doing well, as well as your furbabies. I have an 'engineering' question for you guys. I have a healthy kitty, Pepper, who keeps backing up to the litter box opening and peeing, and of course it goes outside the box, and then urine pools underneath the box (I even use a Christmas tree tray under the box to catch the urine, but still it gets quite ripe after a couple of days). She's been doing this for years and I just keep cleaning it up. But as all of you probably can identify, I hate the smell and the clean-up, and was wondering if any of you have a similar sitation with any of your cats and how you deal with it? I've tried different kitty boxes, but as long as they have an opening, the pee is going in that direction. There's got to be an easier way to deal with this. I was thinking maybe I could make some kind of lip on the opening edge to direct the pee to a receptacle??? Any ideas out there? Thanks! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine???
Hey guys, I haven't posted much in the past few months. Can hardly keep up with life offline, much less online. I hope all of you are doing well, as well as your furbabies. I have an 'engineering' question for you guys. I have a healthy kitty, Pepper, who keeps backing up to the litter box opening and peeing, and of course it goes outside the box, and then urine pools underneath the box (I even use a Christmas tree tray under the box to catch the urine, but still it gets quite ripe after a couple of days). She's been doing this for years and I just keep cleaning it up. But as all of you probably can identify, I hate the smell and the clean-up, and was wondering if any of you have a similar sitation with any of your cats and how you deal with it? I've tried different kitty boxes, but as long as they have an opening, the pee is going in that direction. There's got to be an easier way to deal with this. I was thinking maybe I could make some kind of lip on the opening edge to direct the pee to a receptacle??? Any ideas out there? Thanks! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine???
I use 18 gallon rubbermaid (or knock-off) totes. Depending on age and condition, your cat may be able to jump in to the tote. This works for Copper and Thomas and worked for Dixie. I started this with Ebony who was getting a little older and had touble getting down. The urine hit the back of the tote and eliminated a lot of problems (yes, you have to clean it more often if this happens but I would rather clean plastic than drywall). I cut a U-shaped piece out of the tote on a short end for Ebony. If you find you have to make the cut out make it high so Pepper has to really work at hitting the opening. I never put a lid on the tote. Do not put too much litter in the tote. It is tempting to put extra in but you don't need it and it may make it uncomfortable for the cat to walk. On Jun 28, 2009, at 3:38 PM, wendy wrote: Hey guys, I haven't posted much in the past few months. Can hardly keep up with life offline, much less online. I hope all of you are doing well, as well as your furbabies. I have an 'engineering' question for you guys. I have a healthy kitty, Pepper, who keeps backing up to the litter box opening and peeing, and of course it goes outside the box, and then urine pools underneath the box (I even use a Christmas tree tray under the box to catch the urine, but still it gets quite ripe after a couple of days). She's been doing this for years and I just keep cleaning it up. But as all of you probably can identify, I hate the smell and the clean-up, and was wondering if any of you have a similar sitation with any of your cats and how you deal with it? I've tried different kitty boxes, but as long as they have an opening, the pee is going in that direction. There's got to be an easier way to deal with this. I was thinking maybe I could make some kind of lip on the opening edge to direct the pee to a receptacle??? Any ideas out there? Thanks! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine???
Thank you! I have a rubbermaid container in there right now, however I think I cut the opening too low, so going to Walmart to get another and will try again. Hopefully this will work a little better. :) Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:51:03 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine??? I use 18 gallon rubbermaid (or knock-off) totes. Depending on age and condition, your cat may be able to jump in to the tote. This works for Copper and Thomas and worked for Dixie. I started this with Ebony who was getting a little older and had touble getting down. The urine hit the back of the tote and eliminated a lot of problems (yes, you have to clean it more often if this happens but I would rather clean plastic than drywall). I cut a U-shaped piece out of the tote on a short end for Ebony. If you find you have to make the cut out make it high so Pepper has to really work at hitting the opening. I never put a lid on the tote. Do not put too much litter in the tote. It is tempting to put extra in but you don't need it and it may make it uncomfortable for the cat to walk. On Jun 28, 2009, at 3:38 PM, wendy wrote: Hey guys, I haven't posted much in the past few months. Can hardly keep up with life offline, much less online. I hope all of you are doing well, as well as your furbabies. I have an 'engineering' question for you guys. I have a healthy kitty, Pepper, who keeps backing up to the litter box opening and peeing, and of course it goes outside the box, and then urine pools underneath the box (I even use a Christmas tree tray under the box to catch the urine, but still it gets quite ripe after a couple of days). She's been doing this for years and I just keep cleaning it up. But as all of you probably can identify, I hate the smell and the clean-up, and was wondering if any of you have a similar sitation with any of your cats and how you deal with it? I've tried different kitty boxes, but as long as they have an opening, the pee is going in that direction. There's got to be an easier way to deal with this. I was thinking maybe I could make some kind of lip on the opening edge to direct the pee to a receptacle??? Any ideas out there? Thanks! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org