Re: [Finale] Reasonable Feature Request?
On 16/04/04 11:51, Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though this might be nice, I've been able to use TGTools' Align/Move plugin to get what I want. They're tons of things that TGTools can do that Finale can't, but I was just thinking that if it was already implemented in the smartshape tool, it might be easy to implement in the expression and articulation tools too. This is the first frankly positive e-mail I send to macsupport since 2004 is out, so obviously I also have a list of things that badly need to be fixed. ;-) ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] EPS support (and other things)
As a long time user of Finale (since 1.0) I have to register my EXTREME disappointment and displeasure that EPS export for the new Mac 2004 is delayed again. Many of us long-time and professional users (and teachers who introduce our students to Finale) rely on EPS export. For me (as all of the above), the disappointment is crushing. It has caused me to dramatically change my working style while keeping things with current projects on hold while I wait AND WAIT for EPS. I upgraded to 2004 when it was announced, and did so in good faith, expecting first that you would meet your release deadline (you missed two), and then that you would be good to your word that EPS export would follow in an update (we're up to two upgrades now without an EPS fix). This, along with substantial speed problems (especially with smart shapes and special tools), and glitches in the way smart slurs are drawn when accommodating staccati, and crashes when applying articulations too quickly -- all of this has me reconsidering my relationship with Finale. For the first 16 years of my being a Mac-Finale user, there have been no real options. Now there are. I would hate to have to switch to Sibelius. I am not alone in saying that I am considering this now for the first time. All of this is a crying shame, since, in many ways, Finale 2004 is the best version of Finale yet produced. I do like using it, generally speaking -- but every time I have to work around one of the program shortcomings I mentioned above, especially when these workarounds cost me time, I feel cheated by you. Finale 2004 for Mac feels and acts like a beta version. PLEASE GET THESE THINGS FIXED AS SOON AS YOU CAN. It is clearly in Finale's long-term survival interest that you address these issues NOW. David Froom Underwritten by Giovanni Andreani - Italy, your registered customer since Finale 2001 for Mac Éric Dussault - Canada, registered since FinWin 97 and Mac since 2001 ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] EPS support (and other things)
Good idea! On 15/04/04 08:49, Giovanni Andreani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Froom Underwritten by Giovanni Andreani - Italy, your registered customer since Finale 2001 for Mac ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] EPS support (and other things)
I guess it's a copy of the e-mail you sent to the techsupport of MM. David, I really feel the same as you do. Finale 2004 looked like a great upgrade if you look at the features and OS X support. Now it has proven to be the biggest failure ever to come from MakeMusic. I really am worry about the future of Finale when I see problems of this magnitude. Even the techsupport team are not empathic with us having real problems with this version (let's be fair, they communicate more informations than before). If we would listen to them, only a system with a very specific setup and all the new features of 2004 off would help get performances that are still unacceptable. We're almost in May and no trace of eps. When the day will come that I can use 2004 in an acceptable way, 2005 will be out. I am already sure than I will never use 2004 for real projects if it continues the way I expect it to. Anyway, I also wrote many times to MM to share my concerns even If I feel that don't care (don't tell me a word about their commitement to mac users!). Éric Dussault On 14/04/04 22:26, David Froom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a long time user of Finale (since 1.0) I have to register my EXTREME disappointment and displeasure that EPS export for the new Mac 2004 is delayed again. Many of us long-time and professional users (and teachers who introduce our students to Finale) rely on EPS export. For me (as all of the above), the disappointment is crushing. It has caused me to dramatically change my working style while keeping things with current projects on hold while I wait AND WAIT for EPS. I upgraded to 2004 when it was announced, and did so in good faith, expecting first that you would meet your release deadline (you missed two), and then that you would be good to your word that EPS export would follow in an update (we're up to two upgrades now without an EPS fix). This, along with substantial speed problems (especially with smart shapes and special tools), and glitches in the way smart slurs are drawn when accommodating staccati, and crashes when applying articulations too quickly -- all of this has me reconsidering my relationship with Finale. For the first 16 years of my being a Mac-Finale user, there have been no real options. Now there are. I would hate to have to switch to Sibelius. I am not alone in saying that I am considering this now for the first time. All of this is a crying shame, since, in many ways, Finale 2004 is the best version of Finale yet produced. I do like using it, generally speaking -- but every time I have to work around one of the program shortcomings I mentioned above, especially when these workarounds cost me time, I feel cheated by you. Finale 2004 for Mac feels and acts like a beta version. PLEASE GET THESE THINGS FIXED AS SOON AS YOU CAN. It is clearly in Finale's long-term survival interest that you address these issues NOW. David Froom ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Mac Frustration
I also am unable to get enough performance from my G4 (400MHz, 512 MB Ram, OS 10.3.3), even with some features turned off. It is s slow that I don't even consider using it for production because I can't afford to wait that much every time I edit something. I do like many of the improvements and can't wait to get MM to fix the slownes bug. I have a friend who is a professional engraver, and he also can't get his G5 1.8 GHz to run Finale smoothly. Big scores are too much of a pain and any edits are too slow for his productivity needs. I have heard people say that their G4 or G5 run Finale 2004 great, but I suspect that their need for speed isn't that important. Éric Dussault On 01/04/04 09:48, John Hinchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Is anyone able actually getting work done in a timely manner with Finale 2004 on a Mac G4? Perhaps this cpu is just not beefy enough to run this program. You think it would be. Is it running well on G5? ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Arrow fonts
Title: Re: [Finale] Arrow fonts On 19/03/04 21:08, George Ports [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Would anyone know of a font that would have vertical filled in arrows with a short stem on them? I am using win98 and Finale 2004. Any help would surely be appreciated. George Ports Would the one in Engraver Text work for you ? ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Auto-Save Stall Bug
On 14/03/04 14:03, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finale 2004 frequently hangs when the dialog box comes up. In other words, none of the buttons in the dialog are active -- including Save and Cancel -- and Finale becomes unresponsive and you need to force quit. I would say this happens about 25% of the time. 25% is about the same for me. But if Finale 2004 is closed and I open a file from a previous version, it hangs 100% of the time, which is hugely annoying. I reported that to MacSupport and I was very upset with their response to this bug. Even though I precisely explained the steps involved, he told me he did not understand and was giving me the impression that I was the first to ever have had this problem with FinMac 2004. Of course now I know I am not alone to suffer this. Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Courtesy Time Sigs
If you use a staff style that doesn't display the clefs, then you can apply it where you need it. Éric Dussault On 17/02/04 06:13, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Is there any way to show or hide courtesy time signatures on a staff-by-staff basis? Here's the situation -- I'm working on a piece with multiple independent -- and frequently changing -- time signatures. It strikes me that it might be a good idea to restrike the time signature at the beginning of each score system, just as a reminder of which staves are in what meter. That's easy enough to do with the measure tool. However, that also causes a cautionary time signature to appear on *all* staves at the end of the previous system -- even those staves that are not changing meter in the next measure. While I *do* want cautionary time sigs to appear on the staves who really are changing meter in the next measure, I think it would be confusing to include cautionary time sigs for those staves that are remaining the same. But I still want to restrike the time signature on those staves. Unfortunately, it looks like in Finale this is an all-or-nothing proposition. I suppose I could make a five-line white out staff that I could use to hide the courtesy time signatures on the staves that don't need them, but that seems like it would be a real pain, and more trouble than it's worth. Any other ideas? I may just abandon the idea of restriking the time signature on all staves at the beginning of each system if it seems like it would cause more confusion than it solves. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn NY ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Courtesy Time Sigs
On 17/02/04 08:15, Éric Dussault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you use a staff style that doesn't display the clefs, then you can apply it where you need it. Éric Dussault Sorry, just ignore what I said, I read your post carefully and should have waited for a reply. Éric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New Discovery with Articulations
WOW! That's a feature I also overlooked, and am so glad to get it to work now! Éric Dussault On 02/02/04 14:56, David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe everyone else already knew this, but I just discovered that with the articulation tool you can click-drag to enclose a group of notes and apply an articulation to the group. It also works with metatools (e.g., hold the S key and click drag a group of notes, and the stacatto dot will be applied, assuming that's the metatool defined for S). Oh, what a time saver! I'm sure I'm just ignorant and everyone else already knew this! ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Custom Keyboard Shortcuts in OS X
It took me some time to figure out the way to assign the click for next and previous page, but now it works, even after relaunch. The interface is a bit confusing in this regard and there may be many ways to achieve it. But if I remember well, Johannes, you are not yet working in Finale 2004, and I am using iKey only on OS X apps, since I do have Quickeys 5 for OS 9 and it works well enough. Quickeys X has changed so much that I don't think of ever using it again. With iKey I've had so far no problems at all to get my menu items and click items to work. Are you using Panther ou Jaguar ? The only problem I've had so far is that I must assign the click location (X,Y) manually. The feature that would allow me to simply click on the item makes iKey freeze. Éric Dussault On 29/01/04 09:00, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been using it, too. However, there do seem to be problems: For some reason I can no longer launch the editor. This happened after I added some Finale macros. I am sure I can work that out in the end, however, there is more: It seems to be impossible to program a shortcut for next or previous page. Although this worked once, after relaunch of Finale it doesn't work any more. Scrolling right or left in scroll view doesn't work properly either, it seems, since Finale doesn't have proportional thumbs and this seems to be necessary. Johannes ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 128ths Tuplets
On 30/01/04 08:43, Ole Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Lars-Anders, the work around you suggested seems here just fine to get ratio of 128ths in the score like a Tuplet Definition would have been, but as David rightly pointed out, it don't play back. Think I will send Mac support a kind request on Tuplet Definition of 128ths anyway. I know it's a pain, but couldn't you create a 64ths notes tuplets and with mass edit -- note duration -- 50% to transform it in 128th. If you have tons of it, then it will be painful to do all of the occurance, but it's a workaround. Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Custom Keyboard Shortcuts in OS X
On 28/01/04 12:31, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28 Jan 2004, at 11:39 AM, Tim Thompson wrote: Okay, I found the rub. For the custom shortcuts to work in FinMac04, they must include the command key. Otherwise, they don't work, as reported by others. Tim Aha. Well, that sucks. Requiring the command key in all combos makes this feature -- already an incredible PITA to set up since you have to quit Finale and actually type in all the menu names -- practically useless. I guess I'm going to have to get QuicKeys after all. Still, thanks for the detective work, Tim. - Darcy I've just tried a new utility yesterday to get my shortcuts to work. It's called iKey and I've been able to easily program all of my menu items hotkeys the way I wanted. I have yet to figure out how the mouse click shortcuts can be programmed. It's a shareware ($ 20) and looks a lot more like Quickeys in OS 9 (Quickeys 5) than Quickeys X. http://scriptsoftware.com/ikey/ Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Custom Keyboard Shortcuts in OS X
On 28/01/04 01:26, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see the F5 next to the Mass Edit item in the Tool menu, and I see the Tool menu flash when I press the F5 key, but the tool does not change to Mass Edit. It's the same with all of the keyboard shortcuts I have attempted to program in Finale. Also, I notice now that everything I programmed last time has now disappeared. Not that they were working in the first place, but perhaps this mysterious disappearance has something to do with why they aren't working? - Darcy Exact same thing for me, exept that the shortcuts are still there in the menus. Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FinMac 04 Simple Entry annoyances, and Keyboard Shortcuts
On 28/01/04 01:04, Tim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the issue of Panther programmable keyboard shortcuts, I had no trouble getting any custom mappings for menu items working with FinMac04 and X.3.1. I tried several submenus, including changing layers, selecting any particular Special Tool or Smart Shape without first selecting the tool, Speedy commands such as add dot, flip tie, etc., selection of chord style. In short, any menu command that is in any active menu or submenu. The menu heading flashes, and the result is as it should be if making a menu selection. Just curious, what computer configuration do you have? Is it possible that G5's allows some things that can't be done with G4's ? 64 bits makes them twice as fast with Panther but are there other things ? Éric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Custom Keyboard Shortcuts in OS X
On 27/01/04 17:31, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey gang, Has anyone had any success in programming keyboard shortcuts via Panther's Keyboard Shortcuts Preference Pane? The keyboard shortcuts I've programmed show up correctly next to the menu items in Fin2004. And invoking them causes the appropriate menu to flash. But nothing actually happens -- the menu item is not actually invoked. I experienced exactly the same thing, hopeful to get rid of my slavery to Quickeys. I did send an e-mail to MakeMusic Support today about that. I don't know if it's Finale's fault or Apple's. I can't wait for someone to find a solution to this problem too... Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Finale for Mac OSX delivered
From: Éric Dussault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:50:02 -0500 To: Tim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale for Mac OSX delivered On 23/01/04 10:54, Tim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just tried it, and submenus work as well--I only tried one deep. You can remove any default mappings and add any you like. The trick is that you have to not have the app running when you create the shortcut. In the menu item name field, you type the menu item's name exactly as it appears in the menu, but not the path to it. I imagine that this would cause some problems when there are multiple menu items in an app with the same name under different menus, as in Safari--Open in Tabs. I can't imagine that will be an issue in Finale. BTW, another thing I am pleased to have stumbled across in Panther (was perhaps previously in X?) is Full Keyboard Control--a la Windows allowing tabbing through all elements of dialogs, switching states of buttons and check boxes, etc. from the keyboard. Tim I made some tests and the Layer switching with F1, F2, F3 and F4 keys is programmed and I can see it in Finale menu that it replaces the old shortcuts. When I apply it I can see the View menu highlighting but it doesn't change the layer in reality. Maybe it doesn't matter if Finale is open or not, as long as you restart Finale to actualize the changes. I did the same with the tools to add ctrl-? That are not available in Finale. They all seem to be active, as I can see the menu highlight when I invoke them but no effect on the tools. It sounds great and promising if only it could work! Any ideas? Éric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FinMac2004/Panther font question
On 22/01/04 12:16, Andrew Stiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have a font editor for OS X it's actually very easy to do this yourself, I have to do this for some of my own fonts as well. Johannes -- Any recommendations for one? Is there an upgrade for Fontographer? -- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press Macromedia doesn't seem to be interested in upgrading Fontographer to OS X, but I know that FontLab 4.6 can handle that pretty easily (www.fontlab.com). They also have a low-end font editor called TypeTool, which I used a lot, but version 2 doesn't seem to be able to handle OpenType font creation. Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FinMac2004/Panther font question
On 22/01/04 12:37, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought it did. I have used it to change some fonts to work with OS X, so if that's all you are after it should work just fine. I will check this out soon. Johannes I still use version 1.4 of TypeTool. I downloaded the free pdf documentation on their website and opentype is not an output format listed there. But it supports unicode and fonts with more than 256 characters, and I think it's available through one of the TrueType options. Please tell us more if you discover that version 2 can indeed convert to OpenType, I would definitely upgrade to version 2 if it does. Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FinMac2004/Panther font question
On 22/01/04 13:02, Éric Dussault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought it did. I have used it to change some fonts to work with OS X, so if that's all you are after it should work just fine. I will check this out soon. Johannes I still use version 1.4 of TypeTool. I downloaded the free pdf documentation on their website and opentype is not an output format listed there. But it supports unicode and fonts with more than 256 characters, and I think it's available through one of the TrueType options. Please tell us more if you discover that version 2 can indeed convert to OpenType, I would definitely upgrade to version 2 if it does. Éric Dussault Here's an excerpt from TypeTool's doc : « TypeTool can only work with Unicode indexes from the basic plane (which potentially can cover 65,535 indexes). The Unicode standard is used in TrueType fonts as the main character identification method. In principle TrueType fonts may be encoded with other standards, but in Windows Unicode is always used. Until version 8.5 the Mac OS had very limited support for Unicode. Only the first 256 characters in the font could be encoded which made Unicode unusable. Since version 8.5 the Mac OS fully supports Unicode fonts in applications that need this support. The Macintosh version of TypeTool has special TrueType export option that makes possible the creation of Mac fonts that will work on both old and new operating systems. We will talk about this later, when we discuss TrueType exporting options, which are slightly different on Windows and Macintosh. » ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Finale for Mac OSX delivered
On 22/01/04 15:38, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you running Fin2k4 in OS X yet? If so, how is the general speed feeling for you? Johannes I know the question wasn't aimed at me, but I do run Fin2k4 in OS 10.3.2 , with my G4 400 MHz, 512 MB of ram, and it runs a bit slower than Fin 2k3a in classic. I notice the difference especially in the redraw when I navigate through the score. I already have had more crashes in Fin 2k4 than ever with any other app in OS X, especially when Finale decides to run the automatic save at the moment I'm trying to open a score. It then freezes and I must force quit Finale. Anyone experiencing that? My other concern is with Quickeys. Menu items don't work and I need these so badly to program all my shortcuts to speed up my work. Has anyone some experience with Quickeys X and Finale 2k4? Anyway, for the moment it is impossible to work with 2k4 (no eps export), so I just make some testing, updating my default file to get the expressions to be placed correctly automatically and so on. Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale for Mac OSX delivered
On 22/01/04 17:02, Eric Dannewitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, you are running Quickkeys for OS X right? The latest version? I'll test it when I get my copy. Quickeys X 2.0.2 ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale for Mac OSX delivered
On 22/01/04 17:33, Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just downloaded QuicKeys X2, and it works perfectly with FinMac2k4 in OS X. You don't say which OS version you're using, but I'm on Jaguar (10.2). I think it has be broken with Panther. I have OS 10.3.2 installed. I read something on their website related to problems with Panther. Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale for Mac OSX delivered
On 22/01/04 22:08, Tim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please correct me if I am missing something here-- Do you need QuickKeys to access menu items, when 10.3 has that functionality? I don't know QuickKeys, but perhaps it is because a greater variety of key mappings are possible? But I wanted to mention it in case you weren't aware that 10.3 allows for user key mapping of any menu item in any application. It is in the keyboard preferences. I look forward to having more keyboard shortcuts for tool selections! No. I had read some things about it but nothing more. Nice. But how do you access sub-menus or things like the layer 1 ??? Submenu item? . It seem to be useful for a lot of very simple things but I would like to hear more in detail how and what I could achieve with it in Finale. Thanks Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
FW: [Finale] Finale for Mac OSX delivered
On 19/01/04 11:53, Christopher BJ Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right on the first day the announcement was made, back in the summer, I think. Christopher I got it too. Strange that we both received our copy in Canada before any US users mentionned that they did too! I also ordered on the very first they announced it. Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Glisses and Accis (was: The Joys of Custom Lines)
Le 29/09/03 12:04, Fiskum, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: What is the advantage of this to the end user? Why muddy an accidental with a line when placing the line before the accidental gets the point accross and (IMHO) retains a clean page? I can see where this would just clutter the page and make it more difficult for the conductor or player to decifer. my 2 cents, Steve Fiskum With all my respect to Robert, I must agree with Steve. Some may not... Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Default rests
Am I overlooking something, or isn't there any way to remove all rests adjustments in one go for a whole document? There must be something out there to get the rests to return to their default location. Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Default rests
Le 23/09/03 09:52, Michael Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: The Move Rests plug-in (it's one of the standard ones). Thanks Michael, I did overlook that feature. Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] having it both ways when transposing
Le 13/09/03 15:36, Daniel Dorff [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Hi, I've been off the list for awhile and hope I'm not asking a question that's just been dealt with. I'm working on a piece for tenor sax piano and have been inputting with concert pitch displayed. Parts of the piece are with standard key signatures, and parts are in free non-tonality. Now I want to switch over to showing the tenor sax in the correct transposition and still have accurate pitches on midi playback. That would be easy if it were all in key signatures, but the non-tonal sections should have no signature in the saxophone rather than looking like D Major. I can't figure out how to transpose some sections with signature and some sections without, and still have the midi come out right. Can't you just create a staff style with the key signature item uncheck. It would hide the key signature for the region you need to apply it to. Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Plugin wish (another one for Tobias?)
Le 13/09/03 14:40, Richard Huggins [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Diverting from your question, I'm curious as to what you think is your advantage in keeping these individual pieces all in one file? I've arranged --and engraved for the publisher-- four piano collections of 10-12 pieces each, and I can't think of any advantage, but CAN think of enormous headaches, in keeping them in one file. Like Johannes, I like to keep collections in one single file, unless a very specific situation where I don't know in advance the order of the pieces or something else. I personally can think of many more disadvantages of working with individual files than advantages. If it's the way you're confortable with then ok. Speed and productivity is very important in Finale, and for me having to open 12 differents files to export eps is in itself a real pain. If the pieces stay in the same order, which is 95 percent of the cases, any other reformatting will be just a few steps. Export eps, then automated links in PageMaker et voilà! I really wonder what would be these enormous headaches... It just reminds me of some guy I met who wrote a guitar method (almost 200 pages) with one file for every page. He wanted it with a nice layout and obviously there were a lot of work (with every single file) to do to make it look professional. I'm not sure he would ever have afforded what it would have cost, because he though that all the work was already done. Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Plugin wish (another one for Tobias?)
Le 13/09/03 16:09, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: I didn't want to expand to much on that, but that's basically what I do and I do it for the same reasons. Éric Eric has already listed some reasons, here are some of mine: I like to be able to print booklets easily from Finale. Also, some of these pieces are actually less than a page. Altogether it gives me the most flexibility in terms of changing the layout. I don't have to keep several documents uptodate with my articulation and expression libraries. If I change a document setting I only have to do it once. There are several things in Finale which you can do to the whole document in one go, but which are a drag if you have to them on a page per page basis. I don't have to worry about getting page numbers correct. I can easily print everything into one PDF and send it to the composer for corrections. Takes me 10 seconds to do. If I had to print every page separately and then assemble one PDF from them I think I would go crazy. Johannes ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] feature request
Le 04/09/03 17:39, Robert Patterson Finale [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Several years ago, when Randy Stokes was still a regular contributor to this list, he floated the idea of fixed-width lines. I've wanted this for years for exactly the same reasons Andrew does. At the time the idea was roundly derided as a waste of time by almost all other list members. Oh well: what goes around comes around. OK. But what about an option to choose between « fixed line thickness » and the present « scalable » line thickness. Everybody would be happy to work at their convenience. Couldn't we compare it would the text tool feature to have fixed character size? Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fonts
Le 03/09/03 18:19, Mario Aschauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: I know they use Score for their engraving, but I wonder what font they might use - is it on of the standard-fonts and is there a way to get that font and make it work in Finale? Any hints, comments, insights etc. would be greatly appreciated. The Partita font looks good at first sight, but there are lots of imperfections when you look more closely at high resolution. I much agree that Finale can't reproduce Score's slurs, but depending of Score's output I've seen as many bad slur settings than good ones. Two of the many good features of Score are : 1) the ablility to have automatic vertical spacing, making the music very pleasing to the eyes. 2) the music spacing algorithm is in general extremely satisfying to look at. My own 2 cents Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 arrival
Le 27/08/03 11:25, Robert Patterson Finale [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: My question is, is there some relationship between MIDI entry and the new Simple Entry? You bet there is. This is what it took me 6 months to get. As I said before, it works similarly to Speedy with caps lock on. If you want to see even better how it works, download the free Sibelius demo. One simple question. I don't want to use the Sibelius A B C D E F G letters scheme. This is the one thing in which Finale is superior when entering notes. Will I be able to enter notes with the 3 rows-octaves keyboard scheme I am used to in speedy with the new simple entry tool? Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review
Le 08/08/03 09:41, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: At 02:35 PM 8/8/03 +0200, d. collins wrote: And what about installing it and using on a laptop with no internet connection? Is that easily done? Does that mean this is okay with you? Not even a whisper of protest? Everybody else thinks this is fine, too? It's not with me. I just sent this email to the Finale order desk. Hello, I made a 2004 pre-order yesterday on the basis of the information on Makemusic's website. It turns out that the website was misleading when it said there was no copy protection. Challenge-response *is* copy protection as understood by the user community, and only by a Clintonian turn of phrase about what is is is it anything else. I hope there will be people standing up against all this whining! From what I have seen, there is no way to compare that scheme with that of Finale 98. You buy your software, then register it. Software companies HAVE to find ways to prevent illegal copies of their softwares and god knows how many there are. We choose to take the legal way because it is fair, and because we want MakeMusic to continue their research to make Finale a better software. I see Dennis's post as HUGELY OVERREACTING. I also see some hypothetical problems if Coda stops to support 2004 but our plug-ins developpers have always provided solutions to things Finale cannot do and am confident that if EVER it comes to that we'll find a way through. Wasn't it clear that you have to register ONCE and then the computer remembers that code even if it is reformatted. At least it's the way I understand it. If you ever have to work temporarily on someone else's computer, you CAN do it with all the features enabled for a whole month. Pirat copies of software is a HUGE problem and the solution here is nothing to disturb me in the way I normally work. Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] 2004 registration
This is an excerpt from MakeMusic techsupport (Tyler Turner) read on MM's forum As we explained in the FAQ, we are including a mechanism in a maintenance release of Finale 2004 that will let you transfer the saving/printing from one computer to another without ever contacting MakeMusic. This means that YOU are completely in control of YOUR purchased copy of Finale. There is nothing that MakeMusic could do to prevent you from using Finale 2004 for as long as you live. Isn't that clear? I feel it is. Éric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] the finale firestorm
Le 09/08/03 10:27, Linda Worsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Meanwhile, I won't touch a copy protected Finale. My solution (I know...not possible for many) is to have my current G4 and my old but reliable powerbook (for the road) dedicated to OS9.2 and Finale 2002,. Computers are not THAT expensive any more, and I'll use my new iBook and get a new desktop for everything else and OSX. I'll just stick with that until the software and/or the computers roll over and die Or until Coda comes to its senses. I use Finale every day of my life, and I've gone through the copy protection nightmare before--most notably with Mark of the Unicorn, which finally, wisely abandoned the stupid practice of copy protection and the need to schlep around functioning floppies or CDs, I can't believe they have done thisthe only people they are punishing are the loyal users. I simply won't buy it. I didn't even buy 2003, because it was not that much an improvement and I was waiting for 2004 and native OSX. Yeah great, and now this. I've been a fan, apologist, cheerleader for Finale for closing on two decade, but now I feel betrayed. I'm sticking with what works,,, regardless of improvements in the new version. A curse on those who made this decision I feel very sad that you inflict yourself such a punishement for something of so little importance. They show of good sense of survival to do this and it won't do ANYTHING negative to the great majority of us. It is just the same to me as typing your serial number as you install your software. Any comparison with the dictatorship of Microsoft is in my opinion out of the way. It promises to be the best upgrade in many years and I just say congratulation to the people who will benefit in their workflow of all these improvements. I do wait for some answers about what will happen if MM ceases to exist, but I have never seen MakeMusic people in the past beeing so responsive to the concerns of the people and they already promised to adress this in a future update. There were some complains about the sound samples that were in Windows Media Player format it immediately they adressed it to post a more compatible MP3 format. They released a Q and A about what was beeing discussed here that was in my opinion very sincere and fair. Copy protection or not they were very clear in their answers. They gave news about this release far before it actually was announced. The announcement itself is also for what I know a premiere. They seem more open and responsive than ever to their custumers and I like it. I respect the concerns of some because I know some things still need to be clarified. I am eagerly awaiting this new release, like the great majority of us who are not screaming of anger. Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2004
Le 06/08/03 18:30, Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: That's not true... they can be heard perfectly fine on the Mac. One must only install Windows Media Player for Mac (version 7 if you're on a Classic OS, plus there's an OS X version). Then, since the mms protocol is not interpreted by the MacOS, all you have to do is copy the link from the page, then open URL from the Player and paste it in. Worked for me... and now I'm even more eagerly awaiting Fin2k4. Thanks Brad for the tip! Éric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] It's here -- Finale 2004!
Le 06/08/03 15:05, Christopher BJ Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Whee! I also got a whopping discount ($39.95 instead of $89.95) by stating my promotion code when they asked me - it was sent to me in the advertising email I got. Looking forward to getting teased about the t-shirt by my fellow musicians! 8-) I think it is a mistake and that they rectified it promptly. As I was getting my shopping cart ready it also said that I would pay 39.95 but later on I was told that I was not eligible to the « Mac upgrade discount », so they charged me the expected 89.95. I've talked to a sales rep on the phone and he simply could not acknowledge that there were any offer less than the 89.95. Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Finale digest, Vol 1 #612 - 29 msgs
Le 14/08/03 16:54, Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: I don't know what happened with your order, but I only paid (or, rather, *will* pay after it ships) US$8.95 for shipping... Steve meant shipping to Canada, not in the U.S., and I share the same experience as him. More than that it is very likely that there will be some custom related costs to be collected when the product will be shipped but MakeMusic has nothing to do with the latter. I always wondered why we are not given the option to choose different types of shipping, because their mean of shipping is certainly more expensive than it needs to. Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: OSX Booklet printing (e.g., w/ Acrobat Reader)
Le 07/08/03 10:57, Robert Patterson Finale [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: This is a followup to yesterday's thread. It appears that booklet printing is only available in OS9. (This is yet another example of OSX not-ready-for-prime-time-ness.) In Google searches I've found many bitter complaints that booklet printing has (so far) been orphaned in OSX on a variety of printers, i.e., apparently all of them. If anyone knows of an OSX solution, I'd love to hear about it. (I wonder if using Acrobat 5 in Classic would work!) Meanwhile, even in OS9 it requires a complicated combination of confusing options to get it right. Booklet printing seems tailormade for a 3rd party solution, esp. in the world of PDFs. There used to be a bookletizing product on the market specifically for booklet printing. Does anyone remember what it was called? I haven't turned up anything with web searches. :-( -- Robert Patterson Hi Robert, This professional solution may be expensive, but it's there : http://www.dynagram.com/html/en_solu_ds.htm ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fin2004 Discount
Le 07/08/03 10:31, Cecil Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: I finally upgraded from WIN 97c to 2003 about three months ago. I, too, have not received a promo! I guess you had a good reason to upgrade just before the traditional summer announcement of the next version. Did you have to use 2003 files from someone else to do it at this very moment? Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Finale 2004
Wouldn'd it have been great if the Finale 2004 advertisement on MakeMusic's website could be made so they can be viewed by a macintosh computer. All the sound samples with soundfonts and musical playback are not compatible with macs. They have a particular talent for annoying mac people, have they? Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2004 Review
Le 08/08/03 10:38, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: I am not hugely overreacting. If you want overreaction, talk to me off-list. :) :-) First of all, cracks will be there ASAP. The only penalty is to legal users. I still don't see how we are victimized or penalized. The way you personally change your computer is not the typical behavior of a normal computer user, and I am sure that if you explain it to someone at MakeMusic they will accommodate you. Most people won't have this kind of problem. That point was already made, and you helped make it above when suddenly you had to fall back on a user community for future support because you *know* Makemusic is going to sandbag you and you're already mentally getting ready for it. And maybe *you* have to register once. But how do you suppose they validate these registrations? They're linked to something, and at some point that software is going to blow up and you'll be stuck. I install, then register so they validate my software (fair enough) and then you think they stay connected to your computer? The way I understand it that's all after the registration and somehow your computer is coded so it will in the future recognize the software. Maybe I am a bit naïve or you do a bit of paranoia by going far beyond what is said. I am curious if Jari of Tobias have something more to say about that to shed some lights on us naives and paranoiacs. :-) ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Font annotation NEW
Le 27/07/03 03:26, Jari Williamsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: The copy and paste fonctions in the menu are enabled but they do nothing. So it sounds like you are on the Mac platform? If so, why don't you try Philip's suggestion? That's what I finally did yesterday (requesting his textedit plug-in). I'll know if it works as soon as I'll get it. Thank you, Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Font annotation NEW
I have a question here : I am using a default music font that I made myself and am using it with some publishers I work with. For compatibility purpose, when I edit my font, I rename it to avoid version problems when printed (I am not printing them). It is very easy anyway to rename a font. The problem is that I always have to make a new font annotation from scratch. It's not hard but time consuming. Is there a way to start the font annotation of a new font from an existing one? This would be so much faster. If not I will certainly send a request to MakeMusic to make it through, hopefully, Finale 2005. Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Font annotation NEW
Le 26/07/03 10:50, Jari Williamsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Éric Dussault writes: I have a question here : I am using a default music font that I made myself and am using it with some publishers I work with. For compatibility purpose, when I edit my font, I rename it to avoid version problems when printed (I am not printing them). It is very easy anyway to rename a font. The problem is that I always have to make a new font annotation from scratch. It's not hard but time consuming. Is there a way to start the font annotation of a new font from an existing one? This would be so much faster. If not I will certainly send a request to MakeMusic to make it through, hopefully, Finale 2005. If you have a binary file editor and know how to use it, it's easy: 1. Make a copy of the file you want to use as a template 2. Using the copy, open it with a binary file editor to make a change at position 522 (0-based) in the file. That's where the font's name is stored that the FAN file maps to. End the font name text with a 0. And if I don't know how to use it, is there something to do? Éric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Font annotation NEW
Le 26/07/03 16:43, David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Can't you simply copy an older version's font annotation file with the name of the new font, and then work from there? If it would be that simple I wouldn't ask for the collective wisdom of the list. Have you worked with font annotation files? Even when the FAN file is copied it behaves like the older one and is still associated with the original font. IMHO the whole font annotation dialog box behaves a bit stangely. Why wouldn't I first choose a font, and then choose a FAN to be associated with. There is no way to copy anything from one FAN to another. The copy and paste fonctions in the menu are enabled but they do nothing. 256 time dragging the rectangles to define the limits of the characters is a waste of time I just can't afford. Maybe Randy Stokes could have something to say to make this whole thing more intelligible. Thanks anyway to everyone who has try to help me! Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Test
Le 23/07/03 18:33, Michael Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: I have been out of town and off the list for a few weeks. Is there any news on Finale 2004? Michael Matthews Read on Coda's forum, excerpt from a flyer given at coda's boot in an exposition en Nashville if I remember correctly : *** Announcing... the new Finale 2004 This is the best upgrade since Finale 2000 --Jari Willimason Finale 2004 elevates the experience of notation music - providing simpler and more intuitive interaction for unsurpassed results in creating, customizing and sharing printed music. New in 2004 OSX ready Intuitive new Simple Note Entry Most accurate sheet music scanning available Save Finale files as .wav or .aiff Enhanced Human playback in a variety of musical styles SmartMusic sound font for instrument realism FinaleScript - create your own multi-step commands Save files as SmartMusic accompaniments with full instrumentation Awesome Drum Groove plug-in Smart Page Turns and Smart Cue Notes Over a dozen Easy Editing features Plus an impressive list of over 15 Finale exclusives from prior versions. Enhanced musicality, natural ease of use. MakeMusic really created something magnificent this year. Finale 2004 features striking enhancements in so many important areas --Tobias Geisen. SHIP DATES: Finale Windows August 20, 2003 Finale Mac October 20, 2003 Look for details of the new Finale 2004 on August 1 at www.finalemusic.com Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] tie end
Le 18/07/03 11:13, Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Aha! a workaround! You can also get the first note of a measure to become a tie end if the barline before it is a double bar. So... just make the right barline of the previous measure a double bar, add the tie end, and then make the barline single again. The tie end stays there! I hope this gets you what you want, Bob Thanks! I'll remember that too! Éric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] layout bug?
Le 09/06/03 13:35, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: These are all dragging adjustments in my mind, and pulling the handle too far after multiple drags (because it doesn't drop where you drag it in layout) will spill things over on the next page. Have I missed something in those plugins that make this easy on a per-staff/per-system basis? Are you really saying that you adjust the systems by dragging them? Why not use the edit system margins window. It does give you a lot of control. It never take me more than a few seconds to adjust all you we're talking about to add the finishing touch to the score. I don't use a plug-in for this, as I don't see it as a limitation for me. On the other side, I have already requested a feature that would allow vertical spacing, as featured in SCORE. I think the font annotation would allow them to add this feature, as it determines the very limit of every character that is on the screen. This would adjust both staves and systems on the page to find the most elegant disposition of them. Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Numbers for JazzFont pieces
Le 08/06/03 10:14, Christopher BJ Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Cartoonist Hand looks very nice, and it has a round lower-case a like real handwriting. I took it. The other has a weird 4, and no lower-case letters. Have you tried Dom Regular? There are a few odd-looking characters, but it is commonly available (so you can send files containing it to other Finale users), and is a fairly good match for other Jazz Font characters. Haven't you tried the swingtext font from Rich Sigler? This one looks a lot more professional than the jazz font and contains all that you need to create text with all the features you probably want. http://www.jazzfont.com/ Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Bowings and slurs and staccato dots...
Le 30/05/03 16:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Johannes Gebauer wrote: JG I haven't seen any Alfredo editions and cannot comment. However, it seems to JG me that this kind of thing would not be possible in Finale, would it? Hm...good question. I haven't tried to use dashed slurs in Finale, but if they're not there already, one could add a smart shape, no? There's no problem with multiple levels of shapes on the same notes. But maybe you're thinking of some other glitch; I'll have to give it a try when I get home. I don't want to speak for Johannes, but the smart shape you're talking about is a dotted curved line, not a slur. It is not tapered so it would look strange. I am asking for quite a while Coda to imply dotted slurs in the smart shape palette, but it doesn't seem to be a top priority. Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Reliability of Sibelius opening Finale files
Le 05/04/03 22:23, Rich Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: In other words, if a client only has Sibelius, can Sibelius (Win) be *trusted 100%* to convert a Finale (Mac) file of a large, complex orchestral score? You must be kidding... Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Debussy music font
Hello, Have someone on the list ever heard of a music font called Debussy? Éric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] pdf--finale graphic
Le 16/03/03 11:41, Andrew Stiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: This looks like a task for a page layout program. Finale can do very basic page layout things, but doesn't allow to import pdfs. Eric Dussault I wish to import a page of a pdf file into Finale as a graphic. TIFF and PICT graphics created from the page print much too coarsely, comparable to what can be seen on screen. An EPS version shows no preview, incorrect margins, and causes a postscript error when printing is attempted. Now what? ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Curious behavior
Le 16/03/03 12:38, Linda Worsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: I do get the same behavior, but I noticed that it happened only if I quit Finale and that the last document closed was minimized (only the title bar showing), which I do to access other shortcuts or documents from the desktop. Eric 1) Sometimes opening a new file brings up a wide, narrow score window. In other words, I get a wide rectangular window, a couple of inches high, showing only a few staves of music. I have to pull it down to full window size. No, this isn't one of the usual press-here-and-the-window-gets-smaller things. It's a full size window, just made into a skinny horizontal box. It is also intermittent, with no particular cause. It happens sometimes when opening from within the program, or when double clicking on the icon (with the program open or closed... it seems to make no difference), when opening a second window... or not. In other words, in a random fashion. Any clues? Anybody else have that problem? ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: old times
Le 08/03/03 08:28, Barbara Touburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Can't talk about that... Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote: - Original Message - From: Barbara Touburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] I finally found this very nice music notation program. The problem is that it runs in DOS. It is so long ago that I ran DOS, that I can't Is it Score? I don't know why you can't talk about that, but Score is the only DOS running software that can meet today's notational needs, so Anyway, if you want some help setting the DOS for Score, there is a Score forum at this adress : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
FW: [Finale] OT: old times
-- Forwarded Message From: Barbara Touburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 14:28:20 +0100 Cc: finale [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: old times Can't talk about that... Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote: - Original Message - From: Barbara Touburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] I finally found this very nice music notation program. The problem is that it runs in DOS. It is so long ago that I ran DOS, that I can't Is it Score? Another link to subscribe to the Score list : http://ace.acadiau.ca/score/s-list.htm Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] please reply immediately
Now 8k against spam! Eric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] plug ins
Le 03/03/03 13:19, rolin mains [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: now, of course, this begs the question...what are some of your favorite plug ins? I think most people will agree that there are two plug-ins collection that are incredible. Robert Patterson's plug-ins : http://robertgpatterson.com/.fininfo/finmain.html (patterson beams, settings scrapbook, beam over barlines and measure numbers are highlights of this collection for me). I've actually never used professionally beam over barlines, but this is the only automated way to do it and has been a long-standing limitation of Finale. And Tobias Giesen's TGTools : http://www.tgtools.de/ I am using TGTool lite plug-ins very often within Finale. Countless other plug-ins available in the complete collection. (I still have to make the move to buy them). Eric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] optimimize
Le 25/02/03 19:28, Bob Florence [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: I think it may have to do with group optimizing in Fin2003. Be sure that the group attributes settings are setting to let Finale optimize it as you wish. Eric Dussault I am working on a piano part. I want to optimize the whole part. This has never been a problem but now it won't work. I checked to make sure that nothing was hidden and that there were no staff styles being used. No luck. I am using Mac Finale 2003a. What have I missed? Thanks in advance: Bob Florence ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Music fonts (A quick brown fox jumps over the lazydog)
Le 16/02/03 09:55, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: With Finale, I received an index card with all the characters, keystrokes, etc., plus a two-page spread containing all the Finale scoring features in a single musical score. I don't recall if that's still made available, but I have several different versions of it; it seems to have come with every upgrade, but I'm not certain if it came with 2003. Yes, but it is useless for Dennis as it doesn't compares all fonts available to test their look in written music. And as far as I know, there is no .mus file for the visual index. As Johannes said, the Xemo font (Xinfonia) has interesting basic characters, but it is not a complete set with all the characters needed for a default music font. Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Dashed slurs
Le 11/02/03 12:11, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: However, dashed slurs will never be tapered at the ends. Johannes Has anyone ever requested that to CODA? I hate no beeing able to use tapered dotted slurs. Of course I did request it to CODA. Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Dashed slurs
Le 11/02/03 15:18, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: On the other hand I rarely see tapered dotted slurs in publications. Doblinger, for instance, uses dashed slurs just as you can create with Finale. Johannes Yes, but if it was only possible to do it, we would see a lot more occurances of it. Slurs in classical guitar music is one place where it would be useful and more pleasing to the eyes. Situations where musical phrasing can interfere with instrumental phrasing marks(like for strings) is another situation where it could be used (see Kurt Stone's Music Notation in the Twentieth Century on p.36). I don't know if Sibelius does this, but SCORE does. Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Dashed slurs
Le 11/02/03 17:37, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: I don't know about guitar music, but as far as my own preferences go I never liked the look of dotted tapered slurs. Why would tapered dotted phrasing marks be better than un-tapered? They would interfere much more with the everything else since they would have to be thicker, wouldn't they? No, they should be shaped just like the normal slurs. Are you thinking that slurs are interfering with anything because of their thickness? I am not saying that anyone should use these, but it certainly can clarify things sometime. Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Ties over double bars
Le 11/02/03 17:58, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Here is an engraving question: Two sections in the piece, the second one repeated. From the first to the second section is a tied note. Should the tie a) cross the double repeat bar as though it was a normal barline, b) consist of two tie ends, one before the repeat bar line, one after, c) be dotted over the repeat bar line? Johannes So the second repeated section is not starting on a new staff system. Do I understand it well? I don't see why you shouldn't use a) from my understanding of your problem. Unless there is something more that I can't see, it looks fine to me. Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Dashed slurs
Le 11/02/03 18:21, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Exactly, so they would be thicker than dotted slurs. I thought you were trying to say that tapered dotted slurs interfered less than non-tapered (which at least in my settings are considerably thinner than the middle of a normal slur). Johannes I can see what you mean but my point is this : I just can't imagine a normal slur to be just a normal curved line with the same thicknes in the beginning and in the center. So I would like the same shape that we know for the normal slurs (tapered) to be applied when I choose a dotted slur. Finale's dotted slur is not a slur, but a only dotted *line*. Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Ties over double bars
Le 11/02/03 18:26, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Yes, the only thing that bothers me is that when coming back for the repeat, the note is no longer a tied to note (but still has that tie to it). Also, the tie goes right through the repeat bar line, does that bother anyone? (This is for publication, and I can't find any rules for such situations). Johannes Isn't there any way to make the layout so that the second section starts on a new staff system? It would certainly clarify that thing. I know that you like music tighly spaced, so maybe there is room for that... Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Ties over double bars
Le 11/02/03 18:32, Éric Dussault [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Yes, the only thing that bothers me is that when coming back for the repeat, the note is no longer a tied to note (but still has that tie to it). Also, the tie goes right through the repeat bar line, does that bother anyone? (This is for publication, and I can't find any rules for such situations). Johannes Isn't there any way to make the layout so that the second section starts on a new staff system? It would certainly clarify that thing. I know that you like music tighly spaced, so maybe there is room for that... Eric Forget everything I said... Maybe a dotted slur arriving at the beginning of the repeated section would be a suitable solution. Or depending on how your piece is structured, putting the first repeat one measure later and adding the measure before the new first repeat at the end of the piece, this time without slur, can be possible. Now there could be a problem with the ending... Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] question about clef changes
Le 09/02/03 12:31, Don Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: David, Is this something new to 2k3? In finmac 2k2b the measure region choices are grayed out as soon as I choose create a movable mid-measure clef. Thanks, Don Hart Yes, but even grayed out, what has been chosen before you choose mid measure clef will be applied. Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Type 2 Error
Le 06/02/03 06:24, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Have you added or updated any plugins lately? I had this same problem only a week ago after I installed the TGTools V2 Extras plugins. After I took them out again, the problem seemed to have disappeared, although it happened once again since (but that could just be a temporary problem) I've had the same problem with Robert Patterson's plug-ins suite. But after trial and error tests, removing two of the plug-ins made it work correctly. But now every time there is a new version I have to remember to remove them unless I get again the error of type 2 message when quitting. Eric P.s. The 2 plug-ins I removed are staff sets and page mover, which I hopefully don't use anyway (yet) ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
FW: [Finale] Time Signature Question - Single Number how to
-- Forwarded Message From: Éric Dussault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 07:36:20 -0500 To: David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Finale] Time Signature Question - Single Number how to Le 03/02/03 05:24, David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: The time signature tool can't handle what you want. Of course it can. It seem a lot more simple to use the cut-time time signature symbols (both 4/4 and 2/2, C and C with slash) and replace that symbol with the number wanted. It will display just right without any adjustment. Of course then, you won't be able to use cut-time in your piece... Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Time Signature Question - Single Number how to
Le 03/02/03 14:04, David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: So then how would you propose a person solve the problem if cut-time is desired, along with the single numbers for 3/4, 4/4, 5/4, etc.? This is a workaround that is very helpful to me. For most modern usage cut-time are obsolete and I don't see why I should be able to replace it with 4/4 or 2/2. This solution allows me to do whatever layout changes I want without having to mess around with re-placement of staff or note expressions. I often use the zero (0) when doing unmeasured contemporary pieces or section of pieces and never had to worry about this dilemma. Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] French music terms and phrases
Le mardi, 14 jan 2003, à 03:48 America/Montreal, Johannes Gebauer a écrit : Perhaps they have released it as paperback. I have a hard back version. Johannes You're right. Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] French music terms and phrases
le 1/13/03 6:10 PM, Johannes Gebauer à [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Can anyone please give suggestions as to what are good, accurate, reliable, complete etc. sources of French music terminology which would be targeted at an english and/or german speaker and would be available: (1) online (2) in hard copy (including where to order) I own Bärenreiter's Terminorum Musicae Index Septem Linguis Redactus, a polyglot dictionary of musical terms which has German, English, French, Italian, Spanish, Hungarian and Russian. I found it quite useful when I needed it, but it is quite an investment (I bought it for 27.20 British Pounds about 12 years ago). Johannes On Bärenreiter's website it is advertised at 29.50 €. baerenreiter.com Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FinMac2K3 setup wizard
David, if you just rename you own default file to Maestro Font Default and put it instead of the Maestro Font Default file in the Component Files folder, the Wizard will use it as the base for any new document Eric Dussault Le dimanche, 29 déc 2002, à 11:25 America/Montreal, David Froom a écrit : Hi, I am just getting to know 2K3, having updated from 2K. Does anyone know how to get the setup wizard to conform to settings in the default file? I have my own particular preferences for measure numbers, fonts for articulations, tuplets, etc, that are not part of the saved preferences. I have set up a default file that has these settings, and they are fine when I open that file. However, when I use the setup wizard, it gives me Finale's choices for these things. Any help would be greatly appreciated. David Froom ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Importing Finale files into Adobe Illustrator
le 12/19/02 10:08 PM, Michael Good à [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : On my Windows 2000 system, the Graphic Export feature only lists two options: EPS and TIFF. EPS isn't working due to the font problem. TIFF generates a bitmap, which is not what we want in this case. We need the vector graphics output. I did not see a way in the Finale 2003 manual to add more choices. Perhaps I am misunderstanding what you are referring to? On the mac version of Finale 2003, there are 4 export formats : eps, tiff, pict and illustrator. But it seems that only 2 are available for PC users. It should have nothing to do with Windows 2000. Eric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Coupla quick ones!
Le mercredi, 18 déc 2002, à 19:54 America/Montreal, helgesen a écrit : Situation 1: Horns, 4 measures rest either side of a rehearsal mark. Extract parts produces an 8 measure multi rest, with no reh'l mark. OK it's easily fixable- (Break multi rest- create 2x4 multi rests either side of reh'l mark). But surely theres a way of making Finale (2001) recognise the reh'l mark on extraction? Yes? No? Yes. I assume that your rehearsal mark is made with the expression tool. So when defining the character and font of the rehearsal mark, check the « break multimeasure rest » box. You should do it in your score long before you prepare it for extracting parts. Situation2; Horns, (again!) sustaining note for 9 measures. Apply number repeated measures plug-in. Measure 2 of sustain is numbered 1, and last measure not numbered. So I get numbers 1---7 on measures 2---8. I can see why- strictly speaking first and last are NOT repeated measures, because first is not tied to previous note, and last is not tied to following note, and it is 'kludgeable'- remove ties, enter numbers, replace ties. But surely this should be do-able? Some sort of mandatory Number these measures- do as your told- don't argue! I think this is the normal behavior of that feature. You play the first measure, and then you count the number of repeats of that same measure. Eric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fermatas font and about Fermatas
Le mardi, 17 déc 2002, à 04:35 America/Montreal, Pierre Bailleul a écrit : Dear all, 1. I'm searching for a font containing various sorts of fermatas and commas. From short to long duration : Slashed comma. ^ fermata with 1 and 2 points. Traditional fermata with 2 points. Double fermata (2 arcs) with 1 point. Rectangular fermata with 1 and 2 points. Double rectangular fermata with 1 point. 2. What is the real true standard according to you concerning the duration scale of fermatas ? What is the most usual used between double fermatas and simple fermatas with 2 points ? Fermatas thanks in advance. Pierre. Pierre, look at the staccato font from Bayard-Nizet. It contains most of the symbols you are talking about. I'm not sure that there is such «real true standard », as they are so uncommonly used. To me there is a certain time duration relation between regular, rectangular and triangle shaped fermatas. I've engraved a few pieces of the french composer Éric Pénicaud that were using these symbol, and we felt (me and the editor) that a notation legend was appropriate to explain them, because they occur rarely enough that many musicians would'nt know what they mean. Eric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fermatas font and about Fermatas
Sorry but I forgot to give the web adress of Bayar-Nizet, which is : http://www.bayard-nizet.com/Polices_fr.html Eric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Shortening stems for one layer
Le mardi, 17 déc 2002, à 09:51 America/Montreal, Johannes Gebauer a écrit : Is there a way (plugin or else) to shorten the stems of one layer only? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Hi Johannes, if you're talking about the Patterson beam ability to shorten stems, then you can hide inactive layers (option-A) on a mac, and apply the plug-in. When you'll go back, it will have only affected the active layer. Eric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: Engraving/copying opportunities in NYC?
Le lundi, 9 déc 2002, à 09:23 America/Montreal, Darcy James Argue a écrit : I am looking at moving to New York in the upcoming months and I was hoping to draw on all your collective knowledge and experience -- what engraving and copying opportunities exist in NYC, and what would be the best way for someone like myself to get in on the ground floor? I mean, obviously, Broadway musicals and film score composers need copyists, for example, but -- well, forgive my naiveté, but how does one go about breaking into that business? What about publishers? Carl Fischer and G. Schirmer, of course -- anyone know if those companies are using Finale? Are there other publishers I should be submitting my CV to? Also, is there anything like a directory of freelance copyists that I would be able to get my name on? (Perhaps the Musician's Union has something... ?) I am used to building up a client base largely through word of mouth, but that alone isn't going to pay the bills in New York, at least not in the early going. You'll probably have to forget G. Schirmer because they use almost exclusively SCORE and in some rare cases Sibelius, and even more rare cases Finale. Good luck! Eric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Staff name display
Le lundi, 25 nov 2002, à 07:57 America/Montreal, Christopher BJ Smith a écrit :
At 1:54 AM -0500 11/25/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a way to turn off the staff name display on only selected systems? I'm working on a score for a composer who sometimes uses one singer's staff for another singer's part.
Linda Cummings
Allegro Music Services
I suspect that you want to hide a staff name ("george", say) so that you can manipulate a text expression into place to name the staff differently (say, to "Lisa"). Don't do it that way. Use a staff style, where only the full name and the abbreviated name of the staff are different, and apply it to any part of the staff where Lisa is singing. The advantages of this are many. You will never have to optimise it, and if the layout ever changes, you won't have to tweak the positioning of the text expression (which tends to move around when layout changes.) It is also dead easy, and it is a "set it and forget it" type edit, meaning you never have to think about it again once you have done it.
All the other solutions proposed are kludges that we had to use before we had the marvelous Staff Styles available.
If you really and truly want NO staff name, then make a staff style that has the staff name hidden, and apply it to all appropriate measures in the staff. Very easy.
Christopher
Of course staff styles work great in such situations. But Christopher, if Linda is working on a score and wants later to extract parts, your method of entering many instruments/singers on the same staff with staff styles promises to be a nightmare when extracting parts. Ok for the staff styles, but keep one staff per extracted parts if you don't want to get into trouble.
Eric
[Finale] Independant time signature
I am working on a score with many instruments set up to independent time signature. Is there a way to change time signature in a region to affect all staves? It now only affects staves not set to independent time signature and don't change the others. Will I always have to change every change of time signature on a staff by staff basis? Thanks for any help. Eric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Independant time signature
That's the way to go (staff styles) ! Thank you, I often forget how powerful the staff styles are! Eric le 11/20/02 9:59 AM, David H. Bailey à [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : That is the nature of independent time signatures -- each staff so designated can be in any time signature you want, so the program doesn't know if you want independent or dependent time signatures at any particular location. Have you explored the prospect of staff styles so you can apply one defined for independent time signature in those regions and for those staves where you want it that way, and leave the rest as non-independent (would that be dependent?) time signatures. Éric Dussault wrote: I am working on a score with many instruments set up to independent time signature. Is there a way to change time signature in a region to affect all staves? It now only affects staves not set to independent time signature and don't change the others. Will I always have to change every change of time signature on a staff by staff basis? Thanks for any help. Eric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Maintenance release???
Le samedi, 16 nov 2002, à 09:56 America/Montreal, Richard Yates a écrit : Hasn't it been an awfully long time since the Fin2003 was released without there having been a maintenance release to fix the bugs that crept in? Richard Yates And god knows that there are many things to be fixed. Finale 2002 has been in my opinion the most stable and functional upgrade I've seen. The maintenance release was fixing minor bugs and introducing new ones as well as brand new functions (as of contextual menus for independant notehead's font). Finale 2003, even with great new features, was non-functional from the start (exporting eps is a spectacular step backward and is an incredible time eater process for anyone needing it for professional purpose) . I still use 2002b unless I need to do Tablatures because it is too counter-productive. Let's hope it'll come soon! Eric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Speedy entry (was Re: Paul McCartney)
Le mardi, 12 nov 2002, à 23:57 America/Montreal, Mark D. Lew a écrit : On my current system (FinMac 2002), if the Speedy cursor is not over an entry, typing the enter key does absolutely nothing. I want it to add the note to the previous entry. That is, I want enter to act on the prior entry if there is no current entry under the cursor, just as the accidentals, tie, beam break, and even clear keys do. Why should enter be any different? Surely this wouldn't be so hard to implement, and it would be a great time-save when entering large chords with qwerty-Speedy. I totally agree! Good improvement idea to propose to Coda. Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Paul McCartney
Le mardi, 12 nov 2002, à 06:12 America/Montreal, David H. Bailey a écrit : I will certainly agree that using the alpha keys as a three-octave keyboard is not all that intuitive or quick I hope that you're not saying that entering notes with the arrows is faster that the 3 rows alpha keyboard note entry, I would have to think that you haven't « really » tried it (alpha keyboard). I also think that it is not very complicated to understand the 3 row/ 3octaves principle, and isn't so counter-intuitive. Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Paul McCartney
Le mardi, 12 nov 2002, à 13:45 America/Montreal, David H. Bailey a écrit : I did work at it and found a quicker method which was easier for me. That's OK with me. Everyone has its own way of being productive and hopefully Finale provides different ways to achieve it. Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Transposed vs. concert pitch.
Le lundi, 14 oct 2002, à 09:00 America/Montreal, Christopher BJ Smith a écrit : At 5:42 AM -0400 10/14/02, Darcy James Argue wrote: However, I believe that octave-transposing clefs are becoming more common even in transposed scores, and sometimes even in the instrumental parts. For instance, nowadays I sometimes see the 8vb treble clef used in guitar music. - Darcy It is mostly used in classical guitar notation in chamber music, where the relationship between all instruments is more obvious as the guitar sounds one octave lower as it sound with a normal treble clef. In solo guitar music it is of no interest to use this key because every guitarist know that it sounds an octave lower and it has been written this way for a long long time. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] URGENT RESPONSE
Le vendredi, 11 oct 2002, à 10:33 America/Montreal, Michael Edwards a écrit : The bad thing about a list is that this guy can deliver this scam to a lot of people at one time. Well, it might foil them if this list were set to accept messages only from subscribers. I am on other lists that don't allow non-subscribers to post. How about it, Henry? (And perhaps a filter to remove H.T.M.L. code, leaving just the bare text, while we're about it - and maybe attachments, too (unless list members want attachments to be postable on rare occasions when there is a justification for doing so).) Regards, Michael Edwards. I second these propositions, as they would be good enhancements to this wonderful list. Eric Dussault ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] [TAN] Band in a Box - Mac
Le mercredi, 9 oct 2002, à 09:11 America/Montreal, Tim Thompson a écrit : I sure hope that both MOTU and CODA are taking so much time because they see an opportunity to thoroughly rebuild the product! --or am I naïve? That's the least we can expect after all the time it would have taken to port it... and they better do it right! Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale Notepad 2k3 out
It was announced yesterday on Coda' s site. Eric Le mardi, 8 oct 2002, à 08:46 America/Montreal, Johannes Gebauer a écrit : I just got this from versiontracker: Finale NotePad 2003 (Freeware - 10/07/2002) basic music notation software http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=9497db=mac Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Odd layout.
Le dimanche, 6 oct 2002, à 03:27 America/Montreal, Michael Lawlor a écrit : This would be a simple explanation and easy to fix, except it is not true (for 2002a on Windows). I always have 'automatic update layout' set and have found a number of situations where the last system on a page is duplicated on the next page. I have usually had to use 'Redefine page' to fix this problem. This also occurs with 'automatic music spacing' where certain circumstances seem to bypass the spacing process and it is necessary to click on a measure, with speedy input, and then click somewhere else on the page (or run music spacing to fix several staves at once). I have not managed to work out what the real cause of either of these errors is yet. Michael Lawlor Is the option « reflow systems evenly » checked? I did once forget to check it and hat problems similar as yours. Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Moving a portion of a piece elsewhere
Le jeudi, 3 oct 2002, à 07:07 America/Montreal, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis a écrit : Wouldn't it be a lot easier just to renumber the pages and then after print-out just resort the pages? (unless there are some pieces which don't end/begin on a new page). If you use a DTP program for your page layout, you would just then have to link the files (eps) appropriatly, but it seems a lot easier than to redo your page layout in Finale. Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Speed of Mac Finale 2003
Le jeudi, 3 oct 2002, à 18:00 America/Montreal, Matthew Hindson a écrit : What seemed most useful, however, was an apparent increase in screen redrawing speed when dealing with large files. Has anyone else come across this yet? Or is it just my imagination? Although screen redrawing is not really an issue, I do see and feel a difference in Finale 2003, but in my case it gets slower and a bit less responsive. I have a G4 400 MHz with 512 MB of Ram, which I tought would be enough to see no slowing down but its not. Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] BACH as a single note
le 9/30/02 3:11 AM, Michael Cook à [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Create the clef as an arrowhead using the Text tool. The clef needs to be positioned so that part of it will hide the line, when the line is made short enough. Made easier with line thickness set to none. Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Good Finale Book/Guide Recomendations
le 9/30/02 12:10 PM, Johnson, Mark à [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Finale Power!, which is slated for release in a few weeks, will offer complete coverage of Finale, integrating the newest features and plug-ins throughout. It is available for pre-order now Dear Mark, I really hope that this book will not only covers the technical procedures needed to master Finale, but also contains reference standard engraving examples, which has never been the trademark at Coda. Good luck! Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Measure number regions
le 9/27/02 2:00 PM, David W. Fenton à [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : I'm not talking about the measure numbers in the score, just the numbers in the measure number textbox in the Finale status bar while in scroll view. It's plenty wide enough to include this. It makes me wonder why would someone use scroll view nowadays unless for very specific reasons (slur that crosses page or cresc. etc.). I understand that someone who has a very old computer would do it and also know that it has been design years ago to make it possible to have a snappier reaction from the computer. I first started with Finale 97 on a PC and could see a difference between page view and scroll view. Finale 2003 is a bit less snappier but isn't it more comfortable to work in page view? I now have an old G4 400 MHz (the first generation in 1999) and it is still more than enough to work 100% of the time in page view. Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
