Re: [Finale] Copy protection and the PACE system

[Dennis Bathory-Kitsz]

At 07:18 AM 8/9/03 -0400, David H. Bailey wrote:
Could you please elaborate?  What is the worm that you claim is embedded 
in the PACE system, what does it do, and how would it work if we have 
antivirus software on our system?  Wouldn't current AV software 
catch/kill the worm on our machines?

PACE is legitimate software. There's been a year-long set of 
threads on the Cakewalk/Sonar newsgroups. It's broken some 
machines to the point of having to re-install the operating system 
from scratch to purge the low-level PACE locks. PACE removal
instructions (because it survives removal of the locked application
itself) are regularly posted on the newsgroup. Here's the 
company's website: http://www.paceap.com/

Prosoniq dropped it, and this might be relevant to the Finale 
discussion: 
http://www.crmav.com/88/prosoniq_to_drop_the_pace_copy_protection_from_all_products.shtml

If Finale is using PACE, then it's a true disaster. Despite
recent assurances that the product has been improved, PACE 
issues continue to arise, locking up computers and causing
crashes. If you want a rundown, search news.cakewalk.com in 
the Product.SONAR newsgroup (warning: ca. 140,000 messages!)

So it's critical for Makemusic to disclose this information. Thanks 
to David Lawrence for reminding us about this.

Dennis





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Re: [Finale] Copy protection and the PACE system

[David H. Bailey]

Could you please elaborate?  What is the worm that you claim is embedded 
in the PACE system, what does it do, and how would it work if we have 
antivirus software on our system?  Wouldn't current AV software 
catch/kill the worm on our machines?



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In the back-and-forth about the appropriateness of adding a copy-protection 
scheme to Finale, the discussion of the PACE system and its worm dropped 
through the cracks.

It would seem to be a prerequisite to further discussion to know--from the 
people who actually wrote the code, not some second-hand opinion--whether or not 
the PACE system was used in the construction of the challenge/response 
encoding, and whether it still contains a worm. Until we have that answer in 
definitive form, common sense would dictate that no one should be loading Fin2k4 onto 
their computer, no matter what their opinions are about the other issues.

David Lawrence ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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