Re: [Fink-beginners] Xcode 8 and command line tools

2016-10-14 Thread John Wiggins 
Alexander et al,

Apple Closed my Bug saying that the CLI works, and that the issue is with fink.
If this is not the case, please let them know.  I do not a system to test CLI 
as I am now on Sierra on my machines.
I have sent this info to fink-users in case someone has a system to test and 
ensure fink, in fact, it generating a false warning.

thanks,
jw


at
https://bugreport.apple.com/problem/viewproblem
Bug ID 28356077 - Xcode 8 installs on El Capitan.


Apple Developer Relations   13-Oct-2016 05:13 PM
Engineering has provided the following information regarding this issue:

Please know that there is not incompatibility.  You should report the issue to 
fink and request that fink remove the incorrect warning.



Here is my bug report:
Summary:
The App Store allows installation of Xcode 8 on El Capitan system resulting in 
incompatible Command Line Tools.  One cannot install  
Command_Line_Tools_macOS_10.12_for_Xcode_8

Steps to Reproduce:
1. install Xcode 8 on El Capitan system from App Store.

Expected Results:
compilation from Command Line.

Actual Results:
WARNING: Xcode.app version (8.0) and Xcode Command Line Tools version (7.3)
are not compatible.
You may experience build errors.

Version:
Xcode 8.0  (8A218a)

Notes:
Installer should prevent installation, or bring up dialog explaining 
incompatible Command Line Tools (and others) will result if installation 
continues.

Configuration:
MacOS El Capitan 10.11.6

Attachments:


> On Oct 12, 2016, at 11:56 AM, John Wiggins  wrote:
> 
> My experience was I needed to update to MacOS 10.12 (Sierra) before Xcode 8 
> had the new set of Command Line Tools.
> (you may need to reinstall Xcode 8 after OS update, but I am not sure.  I 
> tried to open bug with Apple for allowing upgrade to Xcode 8 on El Capitan 
> without a warning about the CLTs)
> 
> jw
> 
>> On Oct 9, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Marc Boxerman  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Alex.
>> 
>> Perhaps I jumped the gun.  When updating a package, Fink warned of the 
>> version mismatch and advised that compile errors could result.  Some 
>> packages built.  Others failed.  I recall encountering a problem updating an 
>> imagemagick library. and another package or two.  But I updated Fink itself, 
>> which looks to have removed that warning, and I’ve been able to compile at 
>> least some of the packages whose build previously failed.  I believe the 
>> only package I cannot update now is openmpi.
>> 
>> Marc
>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2016, at 3:18 PM, Alexander Hansen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 8, 2016, at 10:37, Marc Boxerman  wrote:
 
 I upgraded to Xcode 8 on a machine running El Capitan.  It does not appear 
 that Apple released an updated set of command line tools for the newest 
 version of Xcode, at least not for OS X 10.11.  The mismatch in versions 
 between Xcode and the command line tools is causing build failures.  
 Should I downgrade to Xcode 7 or is there a newer version of command line 
 tools out there?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Marc
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My understanding is that the official position from Apple is that Xcode 8 + 
>>> the Xcode 7.3.1 command tools should work.  
>>> 
>>> If you could report the build failures here, (different threads for each 
>>> package, please) we should be able to fix the issues.  And if your version 
>>> of “fink-package-precedence” isn’t up-to-date, that may be indirectly 
>>> responsible for some of the issues—Apple changed the behavior of the 
>>> “otool” executable.  But we’d definitely appreciate any bug reports before 
>>> you update fink-package-precedence and/or downgrade Xcode. :-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Fink-beginners] Xcode 8 and command line tools

2016-10-12 Thread Marc Boxerman 
I'll have to live with it. I'm running a 2008 Mac Pro so I can't install 
Sierra. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 12, 2016, at 11:01 AM, Alexander Hansen  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Oct 12, 2016, at 08:56, John Wiggins  wrote:
>> 
>> My experience was I needed to update to MacOS 10.12 (Sierra) before Xcode 8 
>> had the new set of Command Line Tools.
>> (you may need to reinstall Xcode 8 after OS update, but I am not sure.  I 
>> tried to open bug with Apple for allowing upgrade to Xcode 8 on El Capitan 
>> without a warning about the CLTs)
>> 
>> jw
> 
> It’s either intentional or they just forgot about it and we now have to live 
> with it.  

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Xcode 8 and command line tools

2016-10-12 Thread Alexander Hansen 

> On Oct 12, 2016, at 08:56, John Wiggins  wrote:
> 
> My experience was I needed to update to MacOS 10.12 (Sierra) before Xcode 8 
> had the new set of Command Line Tools.
> (you may need to reinstall Xcode 8 after OS update, but I am not sure.  I 
> tried to open bug with Apple for allowing upgrade to Xcode 8 on El Capitan 
> without a warning about the CLTs)
> 
> jw

It’s either intentional or they just forgot about it and we now have to live 
with it.  
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Re: [Fink-beginners] Xcode 8 and command line tools

2016-10-12 Thread John Wiggins 
My experience was I needed to update to MacOS 10.12 (Sierra) before Xcode 8 had 
the new set of Command Line Tools.
(you may need to reinstall Xcode 8 after OS update, but I am not sure.  I tried 
to open bug with Apple for allowing upgrade to Xcode 8 on El Capitan without a 
warning about the CLTs)

jw

> On Oct 9, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Marc Boxerman  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Alex.
> 
> Perhaps I jumped the gun.  When updating a package, Fink warned of the 
> version mismatch and advised that compile errors could result.  Some packages 
> built.  Others failed.  I recall encountering a problem updating an 
> imagemagick library. and another package or two.  But I updated Fink itself, 
> which looks to have removed that warning, and I’ve been able to compile at 
> least some of the packages whose build previously failed.  I believe the only 
> package I cannot update now is openmpi.
> 
> Marc
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2016, at 3:18 PM, Alexander Hansen  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2016, at 10:37, Marc Boxerman  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I upgraded to Xcode 8 on a machine running El Capitan.  It does not appear 
>>> that Apple released an updated set of command line tools for the newest 
>>> version of Xcode, at least not for OS X 10.11.  The mismatch in versions 
>>> between Xcode and the command line tools is causing build failures.  Should 
>>> I downgrade to Xcode 7 or is there a newer version of command line tools 
>>> out there?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Marc
>> 
>> 
>> My understanding is that the official position from Apple is that Xcode 8 + 
>> the Xcode 7.3.1 command tools should work.  
>> 
>> If you could report the build failures here, (different threads for each 
>> package, please) we should be able to fix the issues.  And if your version 
>> of “fink-package-precedence” isn’t up-to-date, that may be indirectly 
>> responsible for some of the issues—Apple changed the behavior of the “otool” 
>> executable.  But we’d definitely appreciate any bug reports before you 
>> update fink-package-precedence and/or downgrade Xcode. :-)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Fink-beginners] Xcode 8 and command line tools

2016-10-09 Thread Marc Boxerman 
Thanks, Alex.

Perhaps I jumped the gun.  When updating a package, Fink warned of the version 
mismatch and advised that compile errors could result.  Some packages built.  
Others failed.  I recall encountering a problem updating an imagemagick 
library. and another package or two.  But I updated Fink itself, which looks to 
have removed that warning, and I’ve been able to compile at least some of the 
packages whose build previously failed.  I believe the only package I cannot 
update now is openmpi.

Marc

> On Oct 8, 2016, at 3:18 PM, Alexander Hansen  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2016, at 10:37, Marc Boxerman  wrote:
>> 
>> I upgraded to Xcode 8 on a machine running El Capitan.  It does not appear 
>> that Apple released an updated set of command line tools for the newest 
>> version of Xcode, at least not for OS X 10.11.  The mismatch in versions 
>> between Xcode and the command line tools is causing build failures.  Should 
>> I downgrade to Xcode 7 or is there a newer version of command line tools out 
>> there?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Marc
> 
> 
> My understanding is that the official position from Apple is that Xcode 8 + 
> the Xcode 7.3.1 command tools should work.  
> 
> If you could report the build failures here, (different threads for each 
> package, please) we should be able to fix the issues.  And if your version of 
> “fink-package-precedence” isn’t up-to-date, that may be indirectly 
> responsible for some of the issues—Apple changed the behavior of the “otool” 
> executable.  But we’d definitely appreciate any bug reports before you update 
> fink-package-precedence and/or downgrade Xcode. :-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [Fink-beginners] Xcode 8 and command line tools

2016-10-08 Thread Heinz Nabielek 
On 8 Oct 2016, at 22:18, Alexander Hansen  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2016, at 10:37, Marc Boxerman  wrote:
>> 
>> I upgraded to Xcode 8 on a machine running El Capitan.  It does not appear 
>> that Apple released an updated set of command line tools for the newest 
>> version of Xcode, at least not for OS X 10.11.  The mismatch in versions 
>> between Xcode and the command line tools is causing build failures.  Should 
>> I downgrade to Xcode 7 or is there a newer version of command line tools out 
>> there?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Marc
> 
> 
> My understanding is that the official position from Apple is that Xcode 8 + 
> the Xcode 7.3.1 command tools should work.  
> 
> If you could report the build failures here, (different threads for each 
> package, please) we should be able to fix the issues.  And if your version of 
> “fink-package-precedence” isn’t up-to-date, that may be indirectly 
> responsible for some of the issues—Apple changed the behavior of the “otool” 
> executable.  But we’d definitely appreciate any bug reports before you update 
> fink-package-precedence and/or downgrade Xcode. :-)



With your help, everythings seems to be working fine for me with MacOS Sierra 
Version 10.12 and Xcode 8.0. A recent fink update, however, results in hour 
long compilations [still ongoing] and I do not really know, what the system is 
up to. Perhaps I saw gcc 5 somewhere

Heinz
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[Fink-beginners] Xcode 8 and command line tools

2016-10-08 Thread Marc Boxerman 
I upgraded to Xcode 8 on a machine running El Capitan.  It does not appear that 
Apple released an updated set of command line tools for the newest version of 
Xcode, at least not for OS X 10.11.  The mismatch in versions between Xcode and 
the command line tools is causing build failures.  Should I downgrade to Xcode 
7 or is there a newer version of command line tools out there?

Thanks,

Marc


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