Re: [Fink-devel] tar-1.26.4 under 10.12: error compiling

2016-08-14 Thread Alexander Hansen

> On Aug 14, 2016, at 07:16, Kevin Gardner  wrote:
> 
>  
> Thanks for the feedback, TheSin; two things in reply:
> 
> 1). Confirmed that this is a bootstrap installation of the new 
> sierra-alpha-bravo branch. While the machine previously had an earlier fink 
> installation on it, /sw was moved and a new shell was started before starting 
> the bootstrap.  
> 
> 2). Agreed 100% that the root of the error is indeed in this odd call for 
> fink install; my reason for flagging tar was simply that it had clearly been 
> untar’ed and had its tar.c file modified on the lines before this.  You raise 
> a great point, though — why’s a fink install being called before the 
> bootstrap has finished installing a number of utilities (incl. tar, dpkg)?
> 
> Glad to provide more info, etc. as helpful —
> Kevin
> 

That’s by design, and has been the case for more than a decade.

What’s going on is that dpkg is one of the last packages that actually gets 
built during the bootstrap.  We set up a “dpkg-bootstrap” package at the 
beginning to fill in until all of the dependencies are built (including tar). 

The problem here is with libgettext8 and libiconv.  They’re intertwined to the 
point that we can’t use our ordinary dependency handling during bootstrap, and 
so we resort to using an additional fink invocation to install the header 
packages if they’re missing.   The system’s libiconv uses different names for 
some of its symbols, so it’s not really an acceptable substitute.
-- 
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Re: [Fink-devel] tar-1.26.4 under 10.12: error compiling

2016-08-14 Thread Kevin Gardner
 
Thanks for the feedback, TheSin; two things in reply:

1). Confirmed that this is a bootstrap installation of the new 
sierra-alpha-bravo branch. While the machine previously had an earlier fink 
installation on it, /sw was moved and a new shell was started before starting 
the bootstrap.  

2). Agreed 100% that the root of the error is indeed in this odd call for fink 
install; my reason for flagging tar was simply that it had clearly been 
untar’ed and had its tar.c file modified on the lines before this.  You raise a 
great point, though — why’s a fink install being called before the bootstrap 
has finished installing a number of utilities (incl. tar, dpkg)?

Glad to provide more info, etc. as helpful --
Kevin


On August 14, 2016 at 09:10:51, TheSin 
(the...@southofheaven.org(mailto:the...@southofheaven.org)) wrote:

> the error does not seem to be with tar at all, it looks like you are trying 
> to upgrade fink or something or at least fink thinks you are.
>  
> > /sw/bin/fink -y install libgettext8-dev libiconv-dev
> > Use 'fink reinstall fink' to switch distributions
> > from 10.11 to 10.12.
> > 'install' operation not permitted.
>  
> That is the issue not tar, the install is part of the tar bootstrap info 
> file, but it doesn’t even get to tar yet. Why is fink tell you you need to 
> switch from 10.11 tom 10.12, that is the issue.
>  
> I do not have 10.12 ATM so I can’t really help beyond this.
> ---
> TS
> http://www.southofheaven.org/
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Re: [Fink-devel] tar-1.26.4 under 10.12: error compiling

2016-08-14 Thread Kevin Gardner
On August 14, 2016 at 10:25:55, Alexander Hansen 
(alexanderk.han...@gmail.com) wrote:

> On Aug 14, 2016, at 06:08, TheSin  wrote:
>
> the error does not seem to be with tar at all, it looks like you are trying 
> to upgrade fink or something or at least fink thinks you are.
>
>> /sw/bin/fink -y install libgettext8-dev libiconv-dev
>> Use 'fink reinstall fink' to switch distributions
>> from 10.11 to 10.12.
>> 'install' operation not permitted.
>
> That is the issue not tar, the install is part of the tar bootstrap info 
> file, but it doesn’t even get to tar yet. Why is fink tell you you need to 
> switch from 10.11 tom 10.12, that is the issue.
>
> I do not have 10.12 ATM so I can’t really help beyond this.
> ---
> TS
> http://www.southofheaven.org/
> Life begins and ends with chaos, live between the chaos!
> ———

Refresh your fink sierra-alpha-bravo, remove /sw, and try again, please. I 
missed updating an entry from 10.11 to 10.12 in a manual copy-paste operation 
in Bootstrap.pm, and that’s why you were assigned to the 10.11 distribution.


Perfect — working v. well now, thanks for the quick assist!

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Re: [Fink-devel] tar-1.26.4 under 10.12: error compiling

2016-08-14 Thread Alexander Hansen

> On Aug 14, 2016, at 06:08, TheSin  wrote:
> 
> the error does not seem to be with tar at all, it looks like you are trying 
> to upgrade fink or something or at least fink thinks you are.
> 
>> /sw/bin/fink -y install libgettext8-dev libiconv-dev
>> Use 'fink reinstall fink' to switch distributions
>> from 10.11 to 10.12.
>> 'install' operation not permitted.
> 
> That is the issue not tar, the install is part of the tar bootstrap info 
> file, but it doesn’t even get to tar yet.  Why is fink tell you you need to 
> switch from 10.11 tom 10.12, that is the issue.
> 
> I do not have 10.12 ATM so I can’t really help beyond this.
> ---
> TS
> http://www.southofheaven.org/
> Life begins and ends with chaos, live between the chaos!
> ———

Refresh your fink sierra-alpha-bravo, remove /sw, and try again, please.  I 
missed updating an entry from 10.11 to 10.12 in a manual copy-paste operation 
in Bootstrap.pm, and that’s why you were assigned to the 10.11 distribution.




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Re: [Fink-devel] tar-1.26.4 under 10.12: error compiling

2016-08-14 Thread TheSin
the error does not seem to be with tar at all, it looks like you are trying to 
upgrade fink or something or at least fink thinks you are.

> /sw/bin/fink -y install libgettext8-dev libiconv-dev
> Use 'fink reinstall fink' to switch distributions
> from 10.11 to 10.12.
> 'install' operation not permitted.

That is the issue not tar, the install is part of the tar bootstrap info file, 
but it doesn’t even get to tar yet.  Why is fink tell you you need to switch 
from 10.11 tom 10.12, that is the issue.

I do not have 10.12 ATM so I can’t really help beyond this.
---
TS
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