Re: [Firebird-net-provider] Improving
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[Firebird-net-provider] Improving
Hi *,
maybe you remember the thread Releasing more often???. Yeah and
nothing happened. :) Because there was not a strong protest, I think
it's something we all 'd like to have.
I was lately really pissed of by SF's SVN. If you worked with it, not
just committing, I think just using it, you can feel my pain. So first
part of the improving I'd like to offer moving to Git on GitHub. I'm
not a fan of GitHub (I like BitBucket, if somebody asks), but it's a
de-facto standard in OSS.
With this we will also gain benefits like downloading the sources
packed, downloadig specific version etc.
Also I'd like to release *only* on NuGet and latest version for latest
framework as MSI (on website). The rest can be downloaded/extracted
from NuGet. We now support just .NET 3.5 SP1 and later, thus at least
VS2010 and so NuGet is available to everybody. And even that, you can
grab NuGet.exe and download from command line, if you want (i.e.
you're hard-core developer using Notepad and csc only :)). Both these
with higher cadence, shorter release loop as mentioned in previous
thread.
Maybe I'm too optimistic, so please let me know what you think and
what you think is going not work. ;)
JC
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Re: [Firebird-net-provider] Improving
Jiri,
not so that you get an impression we were not interested, just because
we do not actively take part in the discussion. Most of us probably
are convinced that no objection == full approval and prefer keep
on just lurking and not to choke the mailing list when there is not
really much to say.
But maybe from time to time it is good if someone like me *is* choking
the line to show that we are still alive :-)
Working with the source code is something I would personally not do in
the near future. I certainly would be able to, I have to do so in
more situations than I'd like (with other software packages). But I
only do so if there is absolutely no other way. Developers of those
packages usually post the code on their own websites, or even send
them via e-mail.
The only time I tried to download the source for a personal rebuild
concerning Firebird (about 8 months ago) I found that doing so from
SourceForge was too complicated and I had to give it up. But it does
not necessarily mean that I could manage this better from Git.
Your arguments sound very reasonable in any case, and most of all it
makes your work easier. When your work is easier it helps you to help
me in the future, so I certainly approve this idea.
I see a potential problem only where a generalist developer is quite
used to SF and still finds all his other sources there and would have
to acquaint another source location just for the .net provider.
But, then again, nobody said that life as a developer has to be free
from obstacles all the time, and if you never change anything you
won't ever improve something.
best regards,
André Knappstein
Hi *,
maybe you remember the thread Releasing more often???. Yeah and
nothing happened. :) Because there was not a strong protest, I think
it's something we all 'd like to have.
I was lately really pissed of by SF's SVN. If you worked with it, not
just committing, I think just using it, you can feel my pain. So first
part of the improving I'd like to offer moving to Git on GitHub. I'm
not a fan of GitHub (I like BitBucket, if somebody asks), but it's a
de-facto standard in OSS.
With this we will also gain benefits like downloading the sources
packed, downloadig specific version etc.
Also I'd like to release *only* on NuGet and latest version for latest
framework as MSI (on website). The rest can be downloaded/extracted
from NuGet. We now support just .NET 3.5 SP1 and later, thus at least
VS2010 and so NuGet is available to everybody. And even that, you can
grab NuGet.exe and download from command line, if you want (i.e.
you're hard-core developer using Notepad and csc only :)). Both these
with higher cadence, shorter release loop as mentioned in previous
thread.
Maybe I'm too optimistic, so please let me know what you think and
what you think is going not work. ;)
JC
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Re: [Firebird-net-provider] Improving
And today even better https://github.com/blog/1547-release-your-software .
On Wednesday, July 3, 2013, Jiri Cincura wrote:
Hi *,
maybe you remember the thread Releasing more often???. Yeah and
nothing happened. :) Because there was not a strong protest, I think
it's something we all 'd like to have.
I was lately really pissed of by SF's SVN. If you worked with it, not
just committing, I think just using it, you can feel my pain. So first
part of the improving I'd like to offer moving to Git on GitHub. I'm
not a fan of GitHub (I like BitBucket, if somebody asks), but it's a
de-facto standard in OSS.
With this we will also gain benefits like downloading the sources
packed, downloadig specific version etc.
Also I'd like to release *only* on NuGet and latest version for latest
framework as MSI (on website). The rest can be downloaded/extracted
from NuGet. We now support just .NET 3.5 SP1 and later, thus at least
VS2010 and so NuGet is available to everybody. And even that, you can
grab NuGet.exe and download from command line, if you want (i.e.
you're hard-core developer using Notepad and csc only :)). Both these
with higher cadence, shorter release loop as mentioned in previous
thread.
Maybe I'm too optimistic, so please let me know what you think and
what you think is going not work. ;)
JC
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Re: [Firebird-net-provider] Improving
Yeah. I would need to discuss this with other project admins. So it might
not work at all. GitHub has support for organisations so that's even better
for project (the repo would be official).
On Wednesday, July 3, 2013, André Knappstein wrote:
Jiri,
not so that you get an impression we were not interested, just because
we do not actively take part in the discussion. Most of us probably
are convinced that no objection == full approval and prefer keep
on just lurking and not to choke the mailing list when there is not
really much to say.
But maybe from time to time it is good if someone like me *is* choking
the line to show that we are still alive :-)
Working with the source code is something I would personally not do in
the near future. I certainly would be able to, I have to do so in
more situations than I'd like (with other software packages). But I
only do so if there is absolutely no other way. Developers of those
packages usually post the code on their own websites, or even send
them via e-mail.
The only time I tried to download the source for a personal rebuild
concerning Firebird (about 8 months ago) I found that doing so from
SourceForge was too complicated and I had to give it up. But it does
not necessarily mean that I could manage this better from Git.
Your arguments sound very reasonable in any case, and most of all it
makes your work easier. When your work is easier it helps you to help
me in the future, so I certainly approve this idea.
I see a potential problem only where a generalist developer is quite
used to SF and still finds all his other sources there and would have
to acquaint another source location just for the .net provider.
But, then again, nobody said that life as a developer has to be free
from obstacles all the time, and if you never change anything you
won't ever improve something.
best regards,
André Knappstein
Hi *,
maybe you remember the thread Releasing more often???. Yeah and
nothing happened. :) Because there was not a strong protest, I think
it's something we all 'd like to have.
I was lately really pissed of by SF's SVN. If you worked with it, not
just committing, I think just using it, you can feel my pain. So first
part of the improving I'd like to offer moving to Git on GitHub. I'm
not a fan of GitHub (I like BitBucket, if somebody asks), but it's a
de-facto standard in OSS.
With this we will also gain benefits like downloading the sources
packed, downloadig specific version etc.
Also I'd like to release *only* on NuGet and latest version for latest
framework as MSI (on website). The rest can be downloaded/extracted
from NuGet. We now support just .NET 3.5 SP1 and later, thus at least
VS2010 and so NuGet is available to everybody. And even that, you can
grab NuGet.exe and download from command line, if you want (i.e.
you're hard-core developer using Notepad and csc only :)). Both these
with higher cadence, shorter release loop as mentioned in previous
thread.
Maybe I'm too optimistic, so please let me know what you think and
what you think is going not work. ;)
JC
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Re: [Firebird-net-provider] Improving
On Wed, 3 Jul 2013 13:36:58 +0200, Jiri Cincura disk...@cincura.net wrote: Yeah. I would need to discuss this with other project admins. So it might not work at all. GitHub has support for organisations so that's even better for project (the repo would be official). SourceForge also provides a Git repo. Have you looked into that? Mark -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Firebird-net-provider mailing list Firebird-net-provider@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-net-provider
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On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Mark Rotteveel m...@lawinegevaar.nl wrote:
SourceForge also provides a Git repo. Have you looked into that?
Yes. No way I'm going that direction. Almost no features.
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