Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
В сообщении от 24 Ноябрь 2006 21:30 Melchior FRANZ написал(a): Someone mentioned it already: the aileron animation is wrong. Goes up when it should go down and vice versa. I fix this, and another bug, but I have not enough time to prepare right update. Too many works at end of year... -- Wbr, Yurik - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
* Yurik V. Nikiforoff -- Wednesday 08 November 2006 06:44: В сообщении от 8 Ноябрь 2006 04:38 Maik Justus написал(a): And I found a minor bug. The help (engine start, space bar) only works on 1024x768. Yes, but parametrized help, for several screen sizes, take too many times for tune text position, cause I can't reload nasal script on runtime... Doesn't need to be parameterized (in a 2D-panel). Just store the position as normalized coords (0/0 in the lower left, and 1/1 in the upper right corner), then use /sim/startup/x-size and y-size to calculate the actual coordinates. Of course, a 3D or at least 2.5D panel would be preferable. m. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
* Yurik V. Nikiforoff -- Thursday 09 November 2006 06:09: I think, if users will complain about size, we can put extended livreas to another archive. We even can put sounds separatly too, and use default cessna sounds (one string in -set.xml file). Including the sound is worthwhile. But I don't think that the gyro spin-up sound needs to be 16bit/Stereo (having 4.5MB alone!), when not even the panel is stereo (3D). :-} m. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
Someone mentioned it already: the aileron animation is wrong. Goes up when it should go down and vice versa. Otherwise a very well done model! m. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:23:20 +0100, Melchior wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Yurik V. Nikiforoff -- Thursday 09 November 2006 06:09: I think, if users will complain about size, we can put extended livreas to another archive. We even can put sounds separatly too, and use default cessna sounds (one string in -set.xml file). Including the sound is worthwhile. But I don't think that the gyro spin-up sound needs to be 16bit/Stereo (having 4.5MB alone!), when not even the panel is stereo (3D). :-} ..if it sounds a wee bit different depending on which seat you're in, stereo in warranted. If this nuance is lost with less than 16-bit sound, it will depend on how do we wanna go on realism. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:53:35 +0100, Arnt wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:23:20 +0100, Melchior wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Yurik V. Nikiforoff -- Thursday 09 November 2006 06:09: I think, if users will complain about size, we can put extended livreas to another archive. We even can put sounds separatly too, and use default cessna sounds (one string in -set.xml file). Including the sound is worthwhile. But I don't think that the gyro spin-up sound needs to be 16bit/Stereo (having 4.5MB alone!), when not even the panel is stereo (3D). :-} ..if it sounds a wee bit different depending on which seat you're in, stereo in warranted. If this nuance is lost with less than 16-bit sound, it will depend on how ...far... do we wanna go on realism. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
В сообщении от 10 Ноябрь 2006 04:17 Martin Spott написал(a): I took the AN-2 for a ride at very low altitude along a shoreline in order to have a visual reference. Actually I came to a different conclusion, but, hey, we'll be able to fix this later if required :-) I look at rotation carefully, and I admit, you are right. Aircraft not rotated around center of gravity. I fix this, and some other errors (inverse ailerons, starter etc). How I can upload it into CVS? -- Wbr, Yurik - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
Martin Spott wrote: Some of the CVS commit messages are still on their way, but in theory the model should now be part of the FlightGear CVS base package. I've checked the current CVS state against Yurik's TAR file and everything is in place. Actually I never recieved the CVS commit message from the Instruments/ directory. Did someone ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
Le jeudi 9 novembre 2006 06:39, Yurik V. Nikiforoff a écrit : В сообщении от 9 Ноябрь 2006 05:05 Didier Fabert написал(a): hi, how can i switch on the landing light ? like the last image on http://www.avsim.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=30396 It work only for patched sim. I write patch, for use openGL light source in FGFS. This patch was rejected with some reason - read pls devel list about two weeks ago. sorry i don't see it. I want to put compiled and patched FGFS on my ftp archive, for experimental use nice, what is the net address ? but I have not windows and I not know nothing about compiling FGFS for windows. It may take some days, when I do it. me too. i 'm under gentoo linux and i test freebsd (64bits system). window$ is not installed at all and perhaps never be. But if you have devel version of FGFS, you can apply patch, recompile sim and send to me fgfs.exe. I put it for another people, who want use this lights. sorry i cannot do it myself. -- Didier Fabert [EMAIL PROTECTED] KFreeFlight project : A FlightGear GUI-Frontend designed for KDE users http://kfreeflight.sourceforge.net - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
Didier Fabert wrote: Le jeudi 9 novembre 2006 06:39, Yurik V. Nikiforoff a ?crit?: It work only for patched sim. I write patch, for use openGL light source in FGFS. This patch was rejected with some reason - read pls devel list about two weeks ago. sorry i don't see it. According to my memory people didn't fall in love with the proposed patch because it attempted to set lightning stuff outside the scenegraph. This results in much higher cost of performance and maintainability !! compared to a clean solution inside the scenegraph, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
Citing myself Martin Spott wrote: According to my memory people didn't fall in love with the proposed patch because it attempted to set lightning stuff outside the scenegraph. This results in much higher cost of performance and maintainability !! compared to a clean solution inside the scenegraph, I have to admit that the landing-light screeenshot with the AN-2 indeed looks terribly nice, very desirable. On the other hand we should not forget that Mathias, during his port to OSG, is currently working on collecting old crufty scenegraph workarounds together, trying to put this into a clean shape. It's probably better to wait until a clean solution for landing lights is available instead of putting even more cruft on the pile, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
Le jeudi 9 novembre 2006 13:33, Martin Spott a écrit : I have to admit that the landing-light screeenshot with the AN-2 indeed looks terribly nice, very desirable. On the other hand we should not forget that Mathias, during his port to OSG, is currently working on collecting old crufty scenegraph workarounds together, trying to put this into a clean shape. It's probably better to wait until a clean solution for landing lights is available instead of putting even more cruft on the pile, Martin. If you don't want to add it into CVS, it's ok. but have a patched version render waiting more cool! it's not a problem for me to have patched executable. i still have a patched version for the l410 (from v0.9.10), for the crusader (from cvs-without-osg). when you love, you don't count ! :-) (not sure this french expression is translatable) -- Didier Fabert [EMAIL PROTECTED] KFreeFlight project : A FlightGear GUI-Frontend designed for KDE users http://kfreeflight.sourceforge.net - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
Yurik V. Nikiforoff wrote: . When I want to rewrite code and put lights to scenegraph, devel community begin migration to OSG. I decide wait some times, until process will gone to working state. Fine, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
В сообщении от 9 Ноябрь 2006 18:08 Didier Fabert написал(a): nice, what is the net address ? I shell write to you and devel list, when it will be ready. me too. i 'm under gentoo linux and i test freebsd (64bits system). window$ is not installed at all and perhaps never be. Well, I use FreeBSD too. Would you system use 32-bit FreeBSD 6.1 binary? If yes, I can send patched binary for you. -- Wbr, Yurik - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
Le jeudi 9 novembre 2006 12:03, Yurik V. Nikiforoff a écrit : В сообщении от 9 Ноябрь 2006 18:08 Didier Fabert написал(a): nice, what is the net address ? I shell write to you and devel list, when it will be ready. me too. i 'm under gentoo linux and i test freebsd (64bits system). window$ is not installed at all and perhaps never be. Well, I use FreeBSD too. Would you system use 32-bit FreeBSD 6.1 binary? If yes, I can send patched binary for you. all systems are in 64bits natively. but, as i wrote, i begin with it. i use it to test if my flightgear frontend (kfreeflight) can be runnable on freebsd. perhaps i will switching to gentoo-bsd (freebsd with gentoo tools). thanks in advance -- Didier Fabert [EMAIL PROTECTED] KFreeFlight project : A FlightGear GUI-Frontend designed for KDE users http://kfreeflight.sourceforge.net - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
Hi Yurik, Yurik V. Nikiforoff wrote: This is legendary Russian aircraft. First flight was 1947. Seen that in real life already, with a huge silencer attached to the exhaust :-) The model acutally works for me, not only with Flightgear/PLIB but with the current OSG-based binary as well. There are still some transparency issues with OSG, but that's a different story The explanation of the startup procedure (and the procedre itself) is extremely well done !! One thing I'd like to have fixed before adding the aircraft to CVS is the VRP, the Visual Reference Point. This is the point that FDM and 3D model have to agree upon to be their common point of origin for all geometry related operations. With your AN-2, the FDM places the VRP close to (or maybe at, I don't know exactly) the center of lift whereas the 3D model has its VRP at the nose. The result is that, when you apply big movements to the elevator in flight, the aircraft rotates around its nose like a wagging dog tail. In order to fix this you have to apply an offset to the VRP that moves the center of lift of the FDM to the same location in the 3D model. Unfortunately I currently can't help you here because I'm trying to fix the same issue with an aircraft that's already in CVS - and I yet didn't succeed to do so :-/ There's a trick to visualize the mentioned effect. Toggle an external view, look at the aircraft from the side and activate the HUD. The center of the HUD will point you to the FDM's center of lift. You'll see, it's pointing to the nose of the 3D model. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
Hi, Martin Spott schrieb: One thing I'd like to have fixed before adding the aircraft to CVS is the VRP, the Visual Reference Point. This is the point that FDM and 3D model have to agree upon to be their common point of origin for all geometry related operations. With your AN-2, the FDM places the VRP close to (or maybe at, I don't know exactly) the center of lift whereas the 3D model has its VRP at the nose. The result is that, when you apply big movements to the elevator in flight, the aircraft rotates around its nose like a wagging dog tail. I think the 3D-Model and the FDM fit together, the model rotates around the c.g. (in air). The cause for the rotating around the nose is only the reference point, where the camera points to.I don't no if this point is defined in the xml file or in the .ac file, but it is not a mismatch between 3D Model and FDM. Maik - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
Maik Justus wrote: I think the 3D-Model and the FDM fit together, the model rotates around the c.g. (in air). The cause for the rotating around the nose is only the reference point, where the camera points to. I took the AN-2 for a ride at very low altitude along a shoreline in order to have a visual reference. Actually I came to a different conclusion, but, hey, we'll be able to fix this later if required :-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
Hi Yurik, Yurik V. Nikiforoff wrote: This is legendary Russian aircraft. First flight was 1947. This is port of MSFS model by Anton Nikolaev aka Xomer. Published under GPL with his permission. Some of the CVS commit messages are still on their way, but in theory the model should now be part of the FlightGear CVS base package. Thanks a lot to Anton and you for providing this detailed aircraft to us. We'll see if there really remain details to fix. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
В сообщении от 9 Ноябрь 2006 20:13 Martin Spott написал(a): With your AN-2, the FDM places the VRP close to (or maybe at, I don't know exactly) the center of lift whereas the 3D model has its VRP at the nose. Hmmm... VRP stay at 0,0,0 - you may see it at an2.xml. 3D model shifted (by 6.2 m by X ) to this point in an2-model.xml. Imho, both points is right, cause: If there is mismatch between ref points, rotation of model will wrong, you are right. I spend many times for tune center of rotation. Main reason was wrong position of long parts, outstanding from fuselage, for example, gears. If refs point was wrong, gear was sink under ground, when craft begin rotation. I remove this effect (by put ref point to right place), but there is small mismatch - you can see it, look to gear on landing. May be, it shoul be tuned more carefully... The result is that, when you apply big movements to the elevator in flight, the aircraft rotates around its nose like a wagging dog tail. Airplane rotated around his center of gravity. It is near the nose, you are right, but it's right. FDM count CG at 160' from nose. You can open MSFS, load this model (there is link about original model in xml files), open payload menu and look at graphic. In another sim, CG will near the nose too. -- Wbr, Yurik - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
On Wed, 8 Nov 2006, Yurik V. Nikiforoff wrote: There is one problem around it. Power of starter not enough for spin engine shaft with big propeller - as I understand, this is JSBsim limitation. I read about it in devel list, but fix not ready yet. Cause this limitation, inertial starter may work unstable. Works for me anyway. I just followed the instructions on the screen. A friend of mine showed me a film clip he took himself of the starting up procedures of an AN-2. The owner of the aircraft, who was starting it up, is a guy who is blind since birth and whose passion in life is loud noices and engines, preferably in combination. Apart from the AN-2 he has a small collection of old aircraft engines and a big ship engine in the yard which he on occasions starts up and make loud noices with just for the fun of it. So even a blind man can start up an AN-2. But I noticed that there is a 3D cockpit (without instruments) in the model, viewable from the outside. This however doesn't appear in the cockpit view for me. Is that switched off intentionally, by mistake, or has it something to do with my rendering setup? And regarding manuals for the aircraft: Since this is the most manufactured aircraft in the world, there ought to be manuals for it in plenty of other languages than Russian. (or Ukrainian -- The Antonov factory is located at UKKM near Kiev in Ukraina. Zoom in on the satellite image on the flightgear MP server map or google earth, and you can spot another famous Antonov aircraft standing on the apron: the AN-225) I found one translation to English (from Polish, they say) of the AN-2 manual here: http://www.tailwheel.nl/airplanesal/antonov2/manuals/index.html But before you all download the 36M pdf file: unfortunately it is passworded -- no mentioning of that on the web page. (not that pdf encryption is very strong...) - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
В сообщении от 8 Ноябрь 2006 15:34 Joacim Persson написал(a): this limitation, inertial starter may work unstable. Works for me anyway. I just followed the instructions on the screen. Yes, It works, but I can't set diameter of propeller by data sheat from flight manual. Engine can't start, if I set propeller greater then 110'. But real AV-2 propeller have 136' diameter. But I noticed that there is a 3D cockpit (without instruments) in the model, viewable from the outside. This however doesn't appear in the cockpit view for me. Is that switched off intentionally, by mistake, or has it something to do with my rendering setup? Yes, you are right. There is 3d cockpit for An-2, but not animated, and without instruments. May be, I set up it later, or it will be done by another people, who like 3D cockpit. Now it disabled, but you can open it if you want. -- Wbr, Yurik - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
It's a pretty A/C. I started and took off with no problem, but was never able to get the plane above a speed of about 70 knots while holding my altitude. Does that seem right? -c -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove snip-me. to email) As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized. - Chief Luther Standing Bear signature.asc Description: PGP signature - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
I've seen one of these fly in real life and jokingly I will say yes, 70 kts top speed seems about right. But it might not be too far off. This is a big lumbering biplane.Curt. On 11/8/06, Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a pretty A/C.I started and took off with no problem, but was neverable to get the plane above a speed of about 70 knots while holdingmy altitude.Does that seem right?-c--Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED](remove snip-me. to email)As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized. - Chief Luther Standing Bear-Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easierDownload IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Projecthttp://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ http://www.flightgear.orgUnique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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--- Chris Metzler wrote: It's a pretty A/C. I started and took off with no problem, but was never able to get the plane above a speed of about 70 knots while holding my altitude. Does that seem right? Did you find you were flying at a particularly high angle of attack? You may have been flying it on the back side of the power curve. To test, try forcing a higher rotation speed on take-off or diving from height and then going to level flight. Of course, you probably already knew this. BTW, is coffin corner another description for the same thing, or am I confused? -Stuart Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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Hi Yurik, I can just repeat the others: Your AN-2 is fantastic, I really like it. However I've found another small bug: I think the direction of aileron animation is inverted. I hope this aircraft will have a nice place assigned to in the CVS hanger soon. :) Regards, Gabor On Tuesday 07 November 2006 23:38, Maik Justus wrote: Hi Yurik, the plane looks really great, seems to be much time in this bird. But I have a problem. I am not able to start the engine. I put on electric main-switch, magnetos to 1+2, fuel up, starter switch on, other starter switch short to the left and then to right (I hold it on the right), the propeller turns some seconds and then: silence... Any one else with this problem? And I found a minor bug. The help (engine start, space bar) only works on 1024x768. But a big thank you for this plane. I hope I can fly it tomorrow. Maik AJ MacLeod schrieb: Hi Yurik, Thank you very much for making this available under the GPL for flightgear. It's a very nice model, with some innovative touches. The instrument textures are great... they'd look even better on 3d instruments ;-) ... I hope that one of our data committers will add this to CVS soon, it'll be a fantastic addition to the hangar. ... Cheers, AJ - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
2006/11/8, Curtis Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've seen one of these fly in real life and jokingly I will say yes, 70 kts top speed seems about right. But it might not be too far off. This is a big lumbering biplane.From an2 flight operation manual.pdf...top speed in normal flight (near ground/high) - 239/256 km/htop speed in gliding (due strength/durability/assurance factor)-300km/hcruise speed - 190 km/h...-- ---WBR, Vadym. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 16:02:25 +0100 (CET) Joacim Persson wrote: The instrumentation is metric in Russian aircrafts -- sure you weren't doing just 70 km/h? ;) Heh. Was getting my speed from the property browser. (no flaps, 900 mmHg -- takeoff at 110 km/h, climbout at 140 km/h, works for me anyway.) Well, 70 knots is about 130 km/h, so I guess that's right. It seems *so* slow though; I was in constant fear of stalling if I did anything interesting . . .although I just read the Wikipedia page, and it appears that's a needless fear. -c -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove snip-me. to email) As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized. - Chief Luther Standing Bear signature.asc Description: PGP signature - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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On Wed, 8 Nov 2006, Chris Metzler wrote: Heh. Was getting my speed from the property browser. I was a bit worried that you were stalling it around. =) Well, 70 knots is about 130 km/h, so I guess that's right. It seems *so* slow though; I was in constant fear of stalling if I did anything interesting . . .although I just read the Wikipedia page, and it appears that's a needless fear. You must mean this (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_An-2): If the engine quits in instrument conditions (blind flying when you can't see the ground) or at night, the pilot should pull the control column full aft (it won't stall) and keep the wings level. The leading-edge slats will snap out at about 40 mph (64 km/h), and when the airplane slows to a forward speed of about 25 mph [40 km/h], the airplane will sink at about a parachute descent rate until the aircraft hits the ground. (That actually works in the sim) Yurik: There is something funny with the propeller pitch control. I can't get it to the minimun 17 pitch except with idling engine. (looking at /engines/engine/thruster/pitch) And at start-up, the propeller is set to max pitch. (Pitch control may go backwards and depends on engine rpm) Perhaps that explains the start-up problems with a 136 prop? It acts like some kind of constant-rpm propeller. But the AV-2 is a plain variable pitch propeller -- I mean the pilot sets the pitch directly? No fancy stuff there? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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Hi Yurik, Yurik V. Nikiforoff schrieb: Well, I suppose about this trouble. It's result of bad help... No, I still can't start the engine. Maybe the timing/.nas script is critical (I didn't look into, but maybe the time the stater is engaged depends on framerate or whatever?) input keyboard !--Unbind spacebar print help about starter procedure-- comment here: !-- key n=32 namespacebar/name descShow help about starter/desc binding n=0 commandnasal/command scriptan2.starter_help()/script /binding /key -- It allow you crank engine by press spacebar, as default. Yes, that works. It need some time, but the engine starts and I can fly your fantastic bird. Why is it not in cvs now? Maik - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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Maik Justus wrote: Why is it not in cvs now? I guess because of its size. The 'largest' aircraft we currently have in CVS is about 16 MByte - uncompressed size of the respective aircraft subdirectory. The An-2 has more than twice the size and the person who adds this to CVS is at risk of getting criticised for his move Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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On 11/8/06, Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maik Justus wrote: Why is it not in cvs now?And Curt is overwhelmed with *way* too many things this week. Perhaps another developer could look into this. Room in cvs shouldn't be a problem, unless we just want to create an arbitrary reason. Curt.-- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Projecthttp://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/http://www.flightgear.orgUnique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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On Tue, 7 Nov 2006, Yurik V. Nikiforoff wrote: This is legendary Russian aircraft. First flight was 1947. This is port of MSFS model by Anton Nikolaev aka Xomer. Published under GPL with his permission. Model have 8 livreas, original sound, full animated visual and complicate 2d panel. There is real flight manual, but only in Russian, sorry... Hi! That is an absolutely beautiful aircraft you got there! However, I took myself the liberty to move into the cockpit, which I think other might like, too. With this small modification to the view one'll see the inside of the aircraft when looking around (and still see the 2d panel when looking straight ahead). The proposed view section in an2-set.xml: view internal archive=ytrue/internal config pitch-offset-deg-8/pitch-offset-deg !-- x/y/z == right/up/back -- x-offset-m archive=y -0.55 /x-offset-m y-offset-m archive=y 1.3 /y-offset-m z-offset-m archive=y 2.3 /z-offset-m /config /view (I think the view position could be tweaked a bit more, but I need to leave my internet access for today now..) Cheers, Anders Gidenstam -- In a world without fences, who needs gates? - Anders Gidenstam anders(at)gidenstam.org http://www.gidenstam.org/FlightGear/HeadTracking/ http://www.gidenstam.org/FlightGear/JSBSim-LTA/ - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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Hi, Curtis Olson schrieb: On 11/8/06, *Martin Spott* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maik Justus wrote: Why is it not in cvs now? And Curt is overwhelmed with *way* too many things this week. Perhaps another developer could look into this. Room in cvs shouldn't be a problem, unless we just want to create an arbitrary reason. The question was not meant to criticize anyone. I just wanted to know, if there is a why. And the size should be easy to minimize. Some sounds have much more size than is necessary and some textures are a little bit to large (An instrument for the 2D panel need not to be larger than displayed on a large screen). So i am very optimistic to find this aircraft in cvs soon. Thanks. Maik - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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hi, how can i switch on the landing light ? like the last image on http://www.avsim.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=30396 regards -- Didier Fabert [EMAIL PROTECTED] KFreeFlight project : A FlightGear GUI-Frontend designed for KDE users http://kfreeflight.sourceforge.net - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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me wrote: There is something funny with the propeller pitch control. The cause of that is the lines defining minrpm and maxrpm in the propeller definition file for An-2. Only fixed-speed propellers should have a minrpm and maxrpm setting. See the test for fixed pitch/fixed speed/variable pitch propellers in src/FDM/JSBSim/models/propulsion/FGPropeller.cpp, FGPropeller::GetPowerRequired(void) The test is basically if minrpm == maxrpm (i.e. zero, not set), then it's a variable pitch prop. The default value for either is 0 in the constructor. (Not sure how one would go about to define a fixed speed prop where the rpm cannot be varied the slightest.) - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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В сообщении от 8 Ноябрь 2006 20:31 Chris Metzler написал(a): It's a pretty A/C. I started and took off with no problem, but was never able to get the plane above a speed of about 70 knots while holding my altitude. Does that seem right? hmmm... something is wrong... After start sim, aircraft have full load of fuel and cargo, so plane have weight about 5000 kg (11000lbs). At this condition, after climbing, you may set cruise speed between 150-220 km/h (81-119 kias), at constant altitude about 1000 m. I verify it now. Pls, try adjust mixture, may be it would help... -- Wbr, Yurik - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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В сообщении от 8 Ноябрь 2006 23:54 Joacim Persson написал(a): Yurik: Perhaps that explains the start-up problems with a 136 prop? Yes, you are right. I can't tune propeller, and I decide to do it late, when starter trouble will fixed. There is handle Propeller pitch, but it operate wrong. -- Wbr, Yurik - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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В сообщении от 9 Ноябрь 2006 12:21 Joacim Persson написал(a): situations with --real-weather-fetch. I assume it can't take off with 5 tons under all circumstances? 5 tonn - it is a full (brutto) weight, aircraft+fuel+cargo. After start: 8000 lbs - dry aircraft 350 - crew 1000 - cargo 1200 - full fuel tanks. I think, I write fuel/payload subsystem for An-2 late. Now, you can change loading by editing fuel in an2-set.xml (or change /consumable/fuel/tank1, tank2 at runtime) and cargo in an2.xml files. -- Wbr, Yurik - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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Hi Yurik, Thank you very much for making this available under the GPL for flightgear. It's a very nice model, with some innovative touches. The instrument textures are great... they'd look even better on 3d instruments ;-) The main problem with the 2d panel is the way it disappears if one looks around - this problem was recently fixed in the pc7 and it would be a big improvement if it was done in the an2. I hope that one of our data committers will add this to CVS soon, it'll be a fantastic addition to the hangar. The only concern I have is about the flight manual - we have to be very careful about copyright here. If the manual is still in copyright then perhaps it would be better if you kept it available for download (for example) on your website and provided a link within the an2 documentation. That way, the project avoids any potential copyright problems and Russian speakers can still get to read the manual. I wish I could! ftp://ftp.megasignal.com/pub/FlightGear/an2.tar.gz Warning! Total size: 18 Mb! We don't mind quantity at all so long as it's of good quality :-) Cheers, AJ - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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Hi Yurik, the plane looks really great, seems to be much time in this bird. But I have a problem. I am not able to start the engine. I put on electric main-switch, magnetos to 1+2, fuel up, starter switch on, other starter switch short to the left and then to right (I hold it on the right), the propeller turns some seconds and then: silence... Any one else with this problem? And I found a minor bug. The help (engine start, space bar) only works on 1024x768. But a big thank you for this plane. I hope I can fly it tomorrow. Maik AJ MacLeod schrieb: Hi Yurik, Thank you very much for making this available under the GPL for flightgear. It's a very nice model, with some innovative touches. The instrument textures are great... they'd look even better on 3d instruments ;-) ... I hope that one of our data committers will add this to CVS soon, it'll be a fantastic addition to the hangar. ... Cheers, AJ - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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В сообщении от 8 Ноябрь 2006 05:42 Didier Fabert написал(a): But I have a problem. I am not able to start the engine. I put on electric main-switch, magnetos to 1+2, fuel up, starter switch on, other starter switch short to the left and then to right (I hold it on the right), the propeller turns some seconds and then: silence... Any one else with this problem? same thing here, perhaps an explaination with some screenshots can help us. aircraft engine looks like my engine car : ignition problem :-) Well, I suppose about this trouble. It's result of bad help... Real AN-2 equipped inertial starter. It allow to start engine even main battery full discharged - there is handle for spinup wlywheel of starter manually, from cargo cabin. Usually, for start engine, flywheel of starter spinned of electric engine. Main procedure of use inertial starter this: 1. Turn on electrical circuit for supply electrical engine of starter: main battery switch starter switch. Red generator failure lamp will on, like a car; 2. Spinup of wlywheel of starter; for this, turn starter selector to left position and hold it _until wlywheel will spinned_. While wheel spinning, consumable current will decreasing from max value (see VA-3 instrument) to value around zero, when wlywheel will spin enough. It take around 7 sec; you will hear sound of spinned wlywheel. 3. Apply spinned flywheel to engine crankshaft: set starter selector to right position and hold it _until engine started_. It take several second; see on tachometer instrument TE-48. When engine achieved above 550 rpm, release selector and turn off starter switch. There is one problem around it. Power of starter not enough for spin engine shaft with big propeller - as I understand, this is JSBsim limitation. I read about it in devel list, but fix not ready yet. Cause this limitation, inertial starter may work unstable. You may discard inertial started at all - go to an2-set.xml and comment binding of key 32: input keyboard !--Unbind spacebar print help about starter procedure-- comment here: !-- key n=32 namespacebar/name descShow help about starter/desc binding n=0 commandnasal/command scriptan2.starter_help()/script /binding /key -- It allow you crank engine by press spacebar, as default. -- Wbr, Yurik - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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В сообщении от 8 Ноябрь 2006 04:38 Maik Justus написал(a): right), the propeller turns some seconds and then: silence... Any one else with this problem? I answer to next letter. And I found a minor bug. The help (engine start, space bar) only works on 1024x768. Yes, but parametrized help, for several screen sizes, take too many times for tune text position, cause I can't reload nasal script on runtime... May be, I do it late... I hope I can fly it tomorrow. I write additional manual to next letter. I hope, it will help you. -- Wbr, Yurik - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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В сообщении от 7 Ноябрь 2006 17:04 AJ MacLeod написал(a): The main problem with the 2d panel is the way it disappears if one looks around - this problem was recently fixed in the pc7 and it would be a big improvement if it was done in the an2. I bind nasal command center wiew to one of joystick button in my preferences file. Now, after I look around, I press this button and panel stay on screen. The only concern I have is about the flight manual - we have to be very careful about copyright here. If the manual is still in copyright then perhaps it would be better if you kept it available for download (for example) on your website and provided a link within the an2 documentation. That way, the project avoids any potential copyright problems and Russian speakers can still get to read the manual. I wish I could! Ok, I write about it in forum of russian simmers, may be I found authors of manual... -- Wbr, Yurik - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
This is legendary Russian aircraft. First flight was 1947. This is port of MSFS model by Anton Nikolaev aka Xomer. Published under GPL with his permission. Model have 8 livreas, original sound, full animated visual and complicate 2d panel. There is real flight manual, but only in Russian, sorry... Model need devel version of FGFS. There is precompiled Win32 binary of devel version from ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/, for you convience put to ftp://ftp.megasignal.com/pub/FlightGear/devel/ fgfs-win32-20061024.zip. Model: ftp://ftp.megasignal.com/pub/FlightGear/an2.tar.gz Warning! Total size: 18 Mb! -- Wbr, Yurik - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
