Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time
Quoting Thomas Biwer : Indeed, the problem seems to be in some plib code, since he points me towards the file ssgloadac.cxx , line 898 which says: loader_fd = fopen ( filename, ra ) ; You need a newer plib ( svn or the proposed pre-1.8.5 tarball ). This line is faulty and need to be changed to : loader_fd = fopen ( filename, r ) ; ( 'a' removed in ra ) -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.fr/p/2278/partner/2278 Other photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time
Olaf Flebbe However, FG-OSG compiled using Olaf's stuff (for which we must be most grateful) is both significantly slower to load and run than FG-Plib compiled with MSVC8 here. You actually see a slowdown on loading ? Yes, I haven't timed it exactly, but I would estimate 15=25% longer - certainly noticeably. Vivian - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time
2006/11/4, Olaf Flebbe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Could you please try to run it in the debugger and give the
traceback/Call Trace? Where does it crash exactly.
Maybe you have to add run time options: Right Click on Flightgear in
the Solution Explorer and Choose Properties Configuration
Properties/Debugging (for instance --fg-root=. )
Good morning,
I just started the debugger and here's what he tells me in the Call
Stack-flag :
FlightGear.exe!_crt_debugger_hook(int _Reserved=4194304) Line 65
C
FlightGear.exe!_invalid_parameter(const wchar_t *
pszExpression=0x, const wchar_t * pszFunction=0x,
const wchar_t * pszFile=0x, unsigned int nLine=0, unsigned int
pReserved=0) Line 86 + 0x7 bytes C++
FlightGear.exe!_openfile(const char * filename=0x0012f120, const
char * mode=0x, int shflag=64, _iobuf * str=0x00a25448) Line
248 + 0x19 bytesC
FlightGear.exe!_fsopen(const char * file=0x00a25448, const char *
mode=0x0097a36c, int shflag=64) Line 85 + 0xb bytesC
FlightGear.exe!fopen(const char * file=0x0012f120, const char *
mode=0x0097a36c) Line 124 + 0xf bytes C
FlightGear.exe!ssgLoadAC(const char * fname=0x10a81b00, const
ssgLoaderOptions * options=0x) Line 898 + 0x3d bytes C++
FlightGear.exe!ssgLoadAC3D(const char * fname=0x10a81b00, const
ssgLoaderOptions * options=0x) Line 863 + 0xf bytesC++
FlightGear.exe!ssgLoad(const char * fname=0x10a81b00, const
ssgLoaderOptions * options=0x) Line 227C++
FlightGear.exe!sgLoad3DModel() + 0x4fb bytes
10a81b88()
FlightGear.exe!free(void * pBlock=0x10a81b08) Line 110 C
FlightGear.exe!SGPropertyNode::getNode() + 0x150 bytes
74697747()
Indeed, the problem seems to be in some plib code, since he points me
towards the file ssgloadac.cxx , line 898 which says: loader_fd =
fopen ( filename, ra ) ;
To be honest, I dont have a clue what to do, it's the first time I use
debugging mode and I am really not that sure what to do with all that
information he gives me. If you need some further information just let
me know, it's too much to list it all in here.
Well maybe this could be important, too: here's what he tells me in
the Autos-flag about loader_fd:
- loader_fd 0x {_ptr=??? _cnt=??? _base=??? ...}
_iobuf *
_ptrCXX0030: Error: expression cannot be evaluated
_cntCXX0030: Error: expression cannot be evaluated
_base CXX0030: Error: expression cannot be evaluated
_flag CXX0030: Error: expression cannot be evaluated
_file CXX0030: Error: expression cannot be evaluated
_charbufCXX0030: Error: expression cannot be evaluated
_bufsiz CXX0030: Error: expression cannot be evaluated
_tmpfname CXX0030: Error: expression cannot be evaluated
He also says something like no symbols loaded for a few dll-files
like ntdll.dll, version.dll, kernel32.dll and so on...
Plus, Binary was not build with debugging information for
OpenAL32.dll, nvoglnt.dll and nvwrses.dll.
I would be very appreciative for any help about this.
Best,
Thomas
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time
Hi, i noticed that the version of flightgear i built from scratch using cygwin takes significantly more time to start up (about 4-5 minutes) than the one i installed using the exe-file from flightgear.org http://flightgear.org (about 1-2 minutes). is there any specific reason for this and are there any ways to accelerate the start of flightgear somehow? cygwin I/O is dead slow. Thats the price you pay for emulating a UNIX style I/O system. You can accelerate by using MSVC8, for instance. It's free, too. Olaf - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time
yeah thanks for the kind help, i compiled it using MSVC8, i did follow your instructions, Olaf, taken from your homepage. The problem is: FG crashes every time I try to start it. By running the --log-level=debugoptionI found out thatit quits at the point of initializing scenery subsystem giving out a standard MS Windowserror message FlightGear has experienced and problem and therefore had to be closed. What could be the reason for it? I compiled FG 0.9.10, using the dependencies precompiled from Olaf's website. I applied the patch given for the pLib files and SimGear compiled and linked well and quite easy without further problems. I then had some problems while linking FlightGear with a bunch of errormessages but I finally managed to fix them by doing soem changes in the properties of MSVC8 (I m really new to this IDE). Is there a common problem when having installed FG with Cygwin and FG with MSVC on the same machine? Because I read something about this somewhere in the Net, saying that the openal .dll-fileswould cause problems in that case Any hints or thoughts about this? Thank you for your help in here, it's really nice to have such decent people caring about you and helping you out! Best, Thomas 2006/11/4, Olaf Flebbe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, i noticed that the version of flightgear i built from scratch using cygwin takes significantly more time to start up (about 4-5 minutes) than the one i installed using the exe-file from flightgear.org http://flightgear.org (about 1-2 minutes). is there any specific reason for this and are there any ways to accelerate the start of flightgear somehow?cygwin I/O is dead slow. Thats the price you pay for emulating a UNIXstyle I/O system. You can accelerate by using MSVC8, for instance. It's free, too.Olaf-Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimohttp://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___Flightgear-devel mailing listFlightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time
Hi, i compiled it using MSVC8, i did follow your instructions, Olaf, taken from your homepage. The problem is: FG crashes every time I try to start it. By running the --log-level=debug option I found out that it quits at the point of initializing scenery subsystem giving out a standard MS Windows error message FlightGear has experienced and problem and therefore had to be closed. Could you please try to run it in the debugger and give the traceback/Call Trace? Where does it crash exactly. Maybe you have to add run time options: Right Click on Flightgear in the Solution Explorer and Choose Properties Configuration Properties/Debugging (for instance --fg-root=. ) What could be the reason for it? I compiled FG 0.9.10, using the dependencies precompiled from Olaf's website. I applied the patch given for the pLib files and SimGear compiled and linked well and quite easy without further problems. I then had some problems while linking FlightGear with a bunch of errormessages but I finally managed to fix them by doing soem changes in the properties of MSVC8 (I m really new to this IDE). Is there a common problem when having installed FG with Cygwin and FG with MSVC on the same machine? In the case you leave the file-trees seperated, no problem. Please do not try to mix cygwin libs with msvc compiled libs. What kind of errormessages did you got? Because I read something about this somewhere in the Net, saying that the openal .dll-files would cause problems in that case Can you double check that you are using the OpenAL redistributable from Creative? You may use the dependency walker http://www.dependencywalker.com/. Olaf - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time
Hi Thomas, I used cygwin to compile fg-cvs, meanwhile I used MSVC as editor while compiling with cygwin. Then I found Olafs howto on the wiki and compiled with MSVC without deinstalling cygwin. For openal I used the al.zip archive from Olaf (after failing to use the files from the SDK from http://www.openal.org/downloads.html. Maybe the installing of the SDK fixed that bug before I was able to notice?) Did you try to compile the fg9.10 release code or the fg9.10 cvs pre-osg-plib branch? If you tried to compile the release code, you maybe failed by not having compatible simgear/plib? Maik Thomas Biwer schrieb: i compiled it using MSVC8, i did follow your instructions, Olaf, taken from your homepage. ... Is there a common problem when having installed FG with Cygwin and FG with MSVC on the same machine? Because I read something about this somewhere in the Net, saying that the openal .dll-files would cause problems in that case - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time
Olaf Flebbe wrote Hi, i noticed that the version of flightgear i built from scratch using cygwin takes significantly more time to start up (about 4-5 minutes) than the one i installed using the exe-file from flightgear.org http://flightgear.org (about 1-2 minutes). is there any specific reason for this and are there any ways to accelerate the start of flightgear somehow? cygwin I/O is dead slow. Thats the price you pay for emulating a UNIX style I/O system. You can accelerate by using MSVC8, for instance. It's free, too. The I/O of Cygwin was improved considerably about a year ago, but was still a little slower than with an executable produced with MSVC8. It also ran a little slower; as is pointed out above that's the price you pay for emulating Unix. However, FG-OSG compiled using Olaf's stuff (for which we must be most grateful) is both significantly slower to load and run than FG-Plib compiled with MSVC8 here. Vivian - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time
However, FG-OSG compiled using Olaf's stuff (for which we must be most grateful) is both significantly slower to load and run than FG-Plib compiled with MSVC8 here. You actually see a slowdown on loading ? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time
Well, I cant access to the machine I was workin on right now, so I will be able to tell you on monday what the debugger reports. I am using the FG0.9.10 release version , not a cvs version and also the matching SimGear (v.0.3.10) / base package versions. Olaf: I did use the OpenAL version offered through you on your homepage. I ve simply downloaded your devel.zip file... - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time
Hi Olaf, Olaf Flebbe schrieb: However, FG-OSG compiled using Olaf's stuff (for which we must be most grateful) is both significantly slower to load and run than FG-Plib compiled with MSVC8 here. You actually see a slowdown on loading ? Didn't notice up to now (but I have different starting times from run to run (disk cache? free memory? don't know why), so I would have to do a huge number of tests to get significant statistic). Maik - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time
hey there, i noticed that the version of flightgear i built from scratch using cygwin takes significantly more time to start up (about 4-5 minutes)than the one i installed using the exe-file from flightgear.org (about 1-2 minutes). is there any specific reason for this and are thereany ways to accelerate the start of flightgear somehow? i m using flightgear stable version 0.9.10 on windows xp and as before mentioned cygwin tocompile. machine: pentium 4, 1 gb ram. thanks, best thomas - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time
I think to answer quickly, the version we distribute in binary form is built with MSVC and you are building with cygwin. I think it has been reported in the past that cygwin has some serious IO efficiencies due to some sort of thread blocking. Apparently this isn't a priority for the cygwin team, or perhaps only FlightGear tickles this problem in cygwin??? Other's may be able to provide more detailed (or more of a correct) explanation. Regards,Curt.On 11/1/06, Thomas Biwer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey there, i noticed that the version of flightgear i built from scratch using cygwin takes significantly more time to start up (about 4-5 minutes)than the one i installed using the exe-file from flightgear.org (about 1-2 minutes). is there any specific reason for this and are thereany ways to accelerate the start of flightgear somehow? i m using flightgear stable version 0.9.10 on windows xp and as before mentioned cygwin tocompile. machine: pentium 4, 1 gb ram. thanks, best thomas -Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Projecthttp://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/http://www.flightgear.orgUnique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time
Hi Thomas, I recommend to use MSVC Express. It is free and Olaf Flebbe has written a excellent howto, linked from the flightgear wikki. He supports osg and the plib-branch and has precompiled libraries to minimize your effort. I have compiled flightgear from the scratch 2 times with cygwin and 2 times with msvc (with olafs howto). It's like comparing night and day. And the performance is significant better (at least with plib, I have never compiled osg with cygwin). And for me as windows user I prefer the gui, editor and the debugger of msvc. Best regards, Maik Thomas Biwer schrieb: hey there, i noticed that the version of flightgear i built from scratch using cygwin takes significantly more time to start up (about 4-5 minutes) than the one i installed using the exe-file from flightgear.org http://flightgear.org (about 1-2 minutes). is there any specific reason for this and are there any ways to accelerate the start of flightgear somehow? i m using flightgear stable version 0.9.10 on windows xp and as before mentioned cygwin to compile. machine: pentium 4, 1 gb ram. thanks, best thomas - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
