Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.10.0: Decision Altitude

2013-02-18 Thread Christian Schmitt
Curt,

I noticed the SG/FG packages got updated on the mirrors. So I checked 
them out again: still the same issue. How did you create the source 
tarballs? Having the version number 2.8 in it looks like they were 
created from an older, used git clone and not a fresh or cleaned up 
one. The tarballs should only contain files that are in git, nothing 
that gets created during configure/compile time.

Chris



Curtis Olson wrote:

 Certainly this is my fault, however, I must misunderstand something 
about
 cmake for this to happen.  Can someone enlighten me and tell me what 
I
 need
 to do to fix this?  Maybe there is something we can tweak in the 
future if
 the default behavior requires manual intervention to achieve the 
correct
 outcome?
 
 Thanks for checking this out Chris.
 
 Curt.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.10.0: Decision Altitude

2013-02-18 Thread Curtis Olson
Hi Christian,

I completely blew away my build_flightgear and build_simgear
directories so they should be totally clean for the latest version of the
source code.  Are our cmake rules doing something they shouldn't and
writing files in the original source tree when you do out of source builds?

I thought (I was 100% sure until now that you say there was a problem) that
I looked at version.h in my build_simgear directory and it said 2.10.0

I really want to get this fixed as quickly as possible, but I'm confused as
to where things could be going wrong or how to fix it. Back in the day I
had the automake tools really figured out for myself at a deep level, but I
unfortunately don't have that same level of groking for the cmake tools.

Curt.


On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Christian Schmitt ch...@ilovelinux.dewrote:

 Curt,

 I noticed the SG/FG packages got updated on the mirrors. So I checked
 them out again: still the same issue. How did you create the source
 tarballs? Having the version number 2.8 in it looks like they were
 created from an older, used git clone and not a fresh or cleaned up
 one. The tarballs should only contain files that are in git, nothing
 that gets created during configure/compile time.

 Chris



 Curtis Olson wrote:

  Certainly this is my fault, however, I must misunderstand something
 about
  cmake for this to happen.  Can someone enlighten me and tell me what
 I
  need
  to do to fix this?  Maybe there is something we can tweak in the
 future if
  the default behavior requires manual intervention to achieve the
 correct
  outcome?
 
  Thanks for checking this out Chris.
 
  Curt.


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.10.0: Decision Altitude

2013-02-18 Thread Curtis Olson
Ok, I see now that in simgear-2.10.tar.bz2 the top level file version
does report 2.10.0 but the simgear/version.h file is saying 2.8.0

So my question are:

1. for an out-of-source build, why is the build system writing files in the
source tree?  Can we fix that?
2. what is the proper cmake fix here so it doesn't happen in the future?

Thanks,

Curt.



On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Curtis Olson curtol...@flightgear.orgwrote:

 Hi Christian,

 I completely blew away my build_flightgear and build_simgear
 directories so they should be totally clean for the latest version of the
 source code.  Are our cmake rules doing something they shouldn't and
 writing files in the original source tree when you do out of source builds?

 I thought (I was 100% sure until now that you say there was a problem)
 that I looked at version.h in my build_simgear directory and it said
 2.10.0

 I really want to get this fixed as quickly as possible, but I'm confused
 as to where things could be going wrong or how to fix it. Back in the day I
 had the automake tools really figured out for myself at a deep level, but I
 unfortunately don't have that same level of groking for the cmake tools.

 Curt.


 On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Christian Schmitt ch...@ilovelinux.dewrote:

 Curt,

 I noticed the SG/FG packages got updated on the mirrors. So I checked
 them out again: still the same issue. How did you create the source
 tarballs? Having the version number 2.8 in it looks like they were
 created from an older, used git clone and not a fresh or cleaned up
 one. The tarballs should only contain files that are in git, nothing
 that gets created during configure/compile time.

 Chris



 Curtis Olson wrote:

  Certainly this is my fault, however, I must misunderstand something
 about
  cmake for this to happen.  Can someone enlighten me and tell me what
 I
  need
  to do to fix this?  Maybe there is something we can tweak in the
 future if
  the default behavior requires manual intervention to achieve the
 correct
  outcome?
 
  Thanks for checking this out Chris.
 
  Curt.


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.10.0: Decision Altitude

2013-02-18 Thread Erik Hofman
On 02/18/2013 03:36 PM, Curtis Olson wrote:
 Ok, I see now that in simgear-2.10.tar.bz2 the top level file version
 does report 2.10.0 but the simgear/version.h file is saying 2.8.0

 So my question are:

 1. for an out-of-source build, why is the build system writing files in
 the source tree?  Can we fix that?
 2. what is the proper cmake fix here so it doesn't happen in the future?

I see that simgear/CMakeList.txt defines:

file(WRITE ${PROJECT_BINARY_DIR}/simgear/version.h #define 
SIMGEAR_VERSION ${SIMGEAR_VERSION})

it would be better to create a version.h.in file and use

CONFIGURE_FILE(
 ${CMAKE_CURRENT_SOURCE_DIR}/simgear/version.h.in

containing:
#define SIMGEAR_VERSION   @SIMGEAR_VERSION@

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.10.0: Decision Altitude

2013-02-18 Thread James Turner

On 18 Feb 2013, at 14:57, Erik Hofman e...@ehofman.com wrote:

 
 I see that simgear/CMakeList.txt defines:
 
 file(WRITE ${PROJECT_BINARY_DIR}/simgear/version.h #define 
 SIMGEAR_VERSION ${SIMGEAR_VERSION})
 
 it would be better to create a version.h.in file and use
 
 CONFIGURE_FILE(
 ${CMAKE_CURRENT_SOURCE_DIR}/simgear/version.h.in
 
 containing:
 #define SIMGEAR_VERSION   @SIMGEAR_VERSION@

Hmm, I don't think it matter *how* you write the file: PROJECT_BINARY_DIR seems 
like the correct place based on my understand of cmake. I could be wrong of 
course, but it makes more sense to me than CMAKE_CURRENT_SOURCE_DIR.

Since, we want to write version.h inside the build tree - the install hierarchy 
is no use, and we certainly don't want to write to the source dir!

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.10.0: Decision Altitude

2013-02-18 Thread Erik Hofman


Ok that got tangled up. Here's a diff.

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index b4e299a..0725a78 100644
--- a/simgear/CMakeLists.txt
+++ b/simgear/CMakeLists.txt
@@ -1,5 +1,7 @@
 
-file(WRITE ${PROJECT_BINARY_DIR}/simgear/version.h #define SIMGEAR_VERSION ${SIMGEAR_VERSION})
+CONFIGURE_FILE(
+ ${CMAKE_CURRENT_SOURCE_DIR}/version.h.in
+ ${CMAKE_CURRENT_BINARY_DIR}/version.h)
 
 foreach( mylibfolder 
 bucket
diff --git a/simgear/version.h.in b/simgear/version.h.in
index 635495e..a3def5d 100644
--- a/simgear/version.h.in
+++ b/simgear/version.h.in
@@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
 #define _SIMGEAR_VERSION_H
 
 
-#define SIMGEAR_VERSION @VERSION@
+#define SIMGEAR_VERSION @SIMGEAR_VERSION@
 
 
 #endif // _SIMGEAR_VERSION_H
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.10.0: Decision Altitude

2013-02-18 Thread Erik Hofman
On 02/18/2013 04:04 PM, James Turner wrote:
 Hmm, I don't think it matter *how* you write the file: PROJECT_BINARY_DIR 
 seems like the correct place based on my understand of cmake. I could be 
 wrong of course, but it makes more sense to me than CMAKE_CURRENT_SOURCE_DIR.

You seem to be correct, when doing a make package_source I see
simgear-2.11.0/build/simgear/version.h

More investigation to do

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.10.0: Decision Altitude

2013-02-18 Thread Erik Hofman
On 02/18/2013 04:08 PM, Erik Hofman wrote:
 On 02/18/2013 04:04 PM, James Turner wrote:
 Hmm, I don't think it matter *how* you write the file: PROJECT_BINARY_DIR 
 seems like the correct place based on my understand of cmake. I could be 
 wrong of course, but it makes more sense to me than CMAKE_CURRENT_SOURCE_DIR.

 You seem to be correct, when doing a make package_source I see
 simgear-2.11.0/build/simgear/version.h

 More investigation to do

I suspect:

set(HEADERS compiler.h constants.h sg_inlines.h 
${PROJECT_BINARY_DIR}/simgear/version.h)

is the culprit.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.10.0: Decision Altitude

2013-02-18 Thread Christian Schmitt
Sorry Curt,

but nothing writes into the source dir if you use a sane, clean and 
proper checkout from git. Your tarballs make me think that you already 
ran cmake inside the source dir prior to packaging them. Could you run 
git clean -fdx inside the source dir and tar the result up again? 
This will eliminate any remains from prior cmake processings.

Chris


Curtis Olson wrote:

 Ok, I see now that in simgear-2.10.tar.bz2 the top level file 
version
 does report 2.10.0 but the simgear/version.h file is saying 2.8.0
 
 So my question are:
 
 1. for an out-of-source build, why is the build system writing files 
in
 the
 source tree?  Can we fix that?
 2. what is the proper cmake fix here so it doesn't happen in the 
future?
 

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.10.0: Decision Altitude

2013-02-18 Thread James Turner

On 18 Feb 2013, at 15:10, Erik Hofman e...@ehofman.com wrote:

 You seem to be correct, when doing a make package_source I see
 simgear-2.11.0/build/simgear/version.h

The tar balls created by Jenkins (Linux-release) seem to be fine. They contain 
version.h.in, but no version.h

They're created by the following script:

https://gitorious.org/fg/fgmeta/blobs/master/hudson_build_release.sh

And the results look 100% correct to me (download and check for yourselves: 
http://flightgear.simpits.org:8080/job/Linux-release/ )

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.10.0: Decision Altitude

2013-02-18 Thread Curtis Olson
Maybe something has already been tweaked between v2.8 and v2.10.  After I
manually removed the simgear/version.h file it did not come back again --
so maybe we will be in good shape for future releases.

I noticed that simgear/version.h (along with all the other build time
files) are explicitely listed in the .gitignore files throughout simgear.

Here is me wondering out loud: If we *strongly* recommend out of source
builds, maybe it would make sense to *not* list build files in the
.gitignore so they clearly show up as an anomoly.  Previously when I did a
git status, it showed a pristine git tree on the 2.10 branch with no
changes or differences -- but the problem was hidden because of the
.gitignore file.

I found the git status --ignored command which shows ignored files, but
this is a lot of manual messing around to have to remember every 6 months
-- especially when 6 months is about the shelf life of remember specific
details on how or what I've done in the past if haven't repeated it since.
:-)

Anway, I have updated the source files on the ftp server and hopefully we
are ok for this release now.

Curt.


On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Erik Hofman e...@ehofman.com wrote:

 On 02/18/2013 04:08 PM, Erik Hofman wrote:
  On 02/18/2013 04:04 PM, James Turner wrote:
  Hmm, I don't think it matter *how* you write the file:
 PROJECT_BINARY_DIR seems like the correct place based on my understand of
 cmake. I could be wrong of course, but it makes more sense to me than
 CMAKE_CURRENT_SOURCE_DIR.
 
  You seem to be correct, when doing a make package_source I see
  simgear-2.11.0/build/simgear/version.h
 
  More investigation to do

 I suspect:

 set(HEADERS compiler.h constants.h sg_inlines.h
 ${PROJECT_BINARY_DIR}/simgear/version.h)

 is the culprit.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.10.0: Decision Altitude

2013-02-18 Thread Erik Hofman


The 'make package_source' problem was related to this diff.

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@@ -42,7 +42,7 @@ if (NOT EMBEDDED_SIMGEAR)
 set(CPACK_SOURCE_GENERATOR TBZ2)
 set(CPACK_SOURCE_PACKAGE_FILE_NAME simgear-${SIMGEAR_VERSION} CACHE INTERNAL tarball basename)
 set(CPACK_SOURCE_IGNORE_FILES
-  ^${PROJECT_SOURCE_DIR}/.git;.gitignore;Makefile.am;~$;${CPACK_SOURCE_IGNORE_FILES})
+  ^${PROJECT_SOURCE_DIR}/.git;.gitignore;Makefile.am;~$;${CMAKE_CURRENT_BINARY_DIR}/simgear/version.h;${CPACK_SOURCE_IGNORE_FILES})
 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.10.0: Decision Altitude

2013-02-17 Thread Christian Schmitt
Hi,

while this might be a minor issue, I still want to bring it up here: 
The SG and FG 2.10.0 release tarballs from the ibiblio mirror contain 
version.h files with version number 2.8.0. While this should be 
overwritten by cmake on configure time I just experienced a case where 
it wasn't with the result that fgfs didn't run because of 
fgdata/program mismatch.
The version.h files should not be in the distributed tarball as they 
are runtime generated files.

Just FYI
Chris


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 Hi Everyone,
 
 I just wanted to send a quick update on the release process.  Feb 17
 arrives at different times at different places and it is still Feb 16 
here
 for another hour.  I have uploaded the source and the mac version of 
the
 release to ibiblio.org and the final windows version is being 
uploaded
 right now with about 2hr 45min left to go.  So it will not finish 
before I
 head off to bed.  When I get up I will hopefully find that everything
 transferred correctly.  I'll update the kingmont mirror and hopefully 
the
 other mirrors will be getting in sync soon too.  At that point I'll 
update
 the download links on the web site, try to find Stuart's release
 announcement in my email archives, etc. etc.  I have a couple 
commitments
 tomorrow so I hope to have most of the release things taken care of 
by
 mid-afternoon (MN time) but we'll see.  Please be patient if not
 everything is quite in place by Feb 17 00:00 UTC, we are getting 
better,
 but we aren't quite that good yet. :-)
 
 I appreciate all the hard work that so many people have put in on so 
many
 fronts to make this release happen smoothly!
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.10.0: Decision Altitude

2013-02-17 Thread Christian Schmitt
Hi,

upon further inspection the problem appears to be more serious: It 
occurs if SG/FG are built in a separate build dir, as recommended by 
the cmake process. We then have version 2.8 in the original sources and 
2.10 in the build dir. Why 2.8 gets picked up is beyond my knowledge 
but I would consider this to be a serious issue and we should fix it 
before getting flamed post-release.

Chris




Christian Schmitt wrote:

 Hi,
 
 while this might be a minor issue, I still want to bring it up here:
 The SG and FG 2.10.0 release tarballs from the ibiblio mirror contain
 version.h files with version number 2.8.0. While this should be
 overwritten by cmake on configure time I just experienced a case 
where
 it wasn't with the result that fgfs didn't run because of
 fgdata/program mismatch.
 The version.h files should not be in the distributed tarball as they
 are runtime generated files.
 
 Just FYI
 Chris
 


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.10.0: Decision Altitude

2013-02-17 Thread Curtis Olson
Certainly this is my fault, however, I must misunderstand something about
cmake for this to happen.  Can someone enlighten me and tell me what I need
to do to fix this?  Maybe there is something we can tweak in the future if
the default behavior requires manual intervention to achieve the correct
outcome?

Thanks for checking this out Chris.

Curt.


On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Christian Schmitt ch...@ilovelinux.dewrote:

 Hi,

 upon further inspection the problem appears to be more serious: It
 occurs if SG/FG are built in a separate build dir, as recommended by
 the cmake process. We then have version 2.8 in the original sources and
 2.10 in the build dir. Why 2.8 gets picked up is beyond my knowledge
 but I would consider this to be a serious issue and we should fix it
 before getting flamed post-release.

 Chris




 Christian Schmitt wrote:

  Hi,
 
  while this might be a minor issue, I still want to bring it up here:
  The SG and FG 2.10.0 release tarballs from the ibiblio mirror contain
  version.h files with version number 2.8.0. While this should be
  overwritten by cmake on configure time I just experienced a case
 where
  it wasn't with the result that fgfs didn't run because of
  fgdata/program mismatch.
  The version.h files should not be in the distributed tarball as they
  are runtime generated files.
 
  Just FYI
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.10.0: Decision Altitude

2013-02-16 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Hy Yves

Sorry, I do not understand your question. Could you clarify, please?

Torsten
Am 16.02.2013 00:17, schrieb ys:
 Hi Torsten

 What does mean no public answer in this list for this decision ?

 -Yves




 Am 15.02.2013 um 16:16 schrieb Torsten Dreyer tors...@t3r.de:

 Hi all,

 at one point during every ILS approach you reach the decision altitude
 with two options: continue approach or go around. Being the copilot
 on our approach into the 2.10 release, I'd call out minimum, approach
 lights in sight, continue!

 If no one shouts out loudly _NOW_, I'm going to tag the release branches
 tomorrow (Saturday) morning (Central European Time) and give the package
 managers the GO to build and distribute the bundles. That should give us
 a ready-to-download release just in time on Sunday the 17th.

 Greetings,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.10.0: Decision Altitude

2013-02-16 Thread Curtis Olson
Hi Everyone,

I just wanted to send a quick update on the release process.  Feb 17
arrives at different times at different places and it is still Feb 16 here
for another hour.  I have uploaded the source and the mac version of the
release to ibiblio.org and the final windows version is being uploaded
right now with about 2hr 45min left to go.  So it will not finish before I
head off to bed.  When I get up I will hopefully find that everything
transferred correctly.  I'll update the kingmont mirror and hopefully the
other mirrors will be getting in sync soon too.  At that point I'll update
the download links on the web site, try to find Stuart's release
announcement in my email archives, etc. etc.  I have a couple commitments
tomorrow so I hope to have most of the release things taken care of by
mid-afternoon (MN time) but we'll see.  Please be patient if not everything
is quite in place by Feb 17 00:00 UTC, we are getting better, but we aren't
quite that good yet. :-)

I appreciate all the hard work that so many people have put in on so many
fronts to make this release happen smoothly!

Thanks!

Curt.


On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Torsten Dreyer wrote:

 Hi all,

 at one point during every ILS approach you reach the decision altitude
 with two options: continue approach or go around. Being the copilot
 on our approach into the 2.10 release, I'd call out minimum, approach
 lights in sight, continue!

 If no one shouts out loudly _NOW_, I'm going to tag the release branches
 tomorrow (Saturday) morning (Central European Time) and give the package
 managers the GO to build and distribute the bundles. That should give us
 a ready-to-download release just in time on Sunday the 17th.

 Greetings,
 Torsten


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[Flightgear-devel] Release 2.10.0: Decision Altitude

2013-02-15 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Hi all,

at one point during every ILS approach you reach the decision altitude 
with two options: continue approach or go around. Being the copilot 
on our approach into the 2.10 release, I'd call out minimum, approach 
lights in sight, continue!

If no one shouts out loudly _NOW_, I'm going to tag the release branches 
tomorrow (Saturday) morning (Central European Time) and give the package 
managers the GO to build and distribute the bundles. That should give us 
a ready-to-download release just in time on Sunday the 17th.

Greetings,
Torsten

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.10.0: Decision Altitude

2013-02-15 Thread Curtis Olson
I would just add a quick last minute request to the developers (or anyone
else).  We haven't organized an effort to collect screen shots for the
v2.10 release yet and I'd like to do that now.  If anyone is
interested/willing to submit v2.10 screen shots (based on the release
candidates or other pre-release builds) I would be happy to take them.  You
can send them directly to me and I will assemble a screen shot page on the
web site.  It would be wonderful to have a dozen or two high quality images
in time for the release, but we can always add more images to the page
later.  +1 to shots that highlight something new or interesting in
FlightGear and +1 to any shot that is just a nice, well composed FlightGear
scene.  And as usual, I'd like to steer clear of images that show private
unreleased work, or content that would be difficult for an average user to
chase down and see themselves.

I think most people are visual and if we don't change up any imagery on the
web site (some of the images are from the 2.6 release or maybe earlier)
there could be a perception that not much has gone on in the last 6 months.

Thanks!

Curt.


On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Torsten Dreyer tors...@t3r.de wrote:

 Hi all,

 at one point during every ILS approach you reach the decision altitude
 with two options: continue approach or go around. Being the copilot
 on our approach into the 2.10 release, I'd call out minimum, approach
 lights in sight, continue!

 If no one shouts out loudly _NOW_, I'm going to tag the release branches
 tomorrow (Saturday) morning (Central European Time) and give the package
 managers the GO to build and distribute the bundles. That should give us
 a ready-to-download release just in time on Sunday the 17th.

 Greetings,
 Torsten


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.10.0: Decision Altitude

2013-02-15 Thread ys
Hi Torsten

What does mean no public answer in this list for this decision ?

-Yves




Am 15.02.2013 um 16:16 schrieb Torsten Dreyer tors...@t3r.de:

 Hi all,
 
 at one point during every ILS approach you reach the decision altitude 
 with two options: continue approach or go around. Being the copilot 
 on our approach into the 2.10 release, I'd call out minimum, approach 
 lights in sight, continue!
 
 If no one shouts out loudly _NOW_, I'm going to tag the release branches 
 tomorrow (Saturday) morning (Central European Time) and give the package 
 managers the GO to build and distribute the bundles. That should give us 
 a ready-to-download release just in time on Sunday the 17th.
 
 Greetings,
 Torsten
 
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