Re: FLUXLIST: Stockhausen
Maybe its of interest to somebody, who knows... On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, Rafael Custodio de Lima wrote: Someone mentioned that Stockhausen disliked jazz for being a low-class music. I think one of the reasons he's so original(e) is the fact he was born poor and got in touch with the so-called high music in very late age (have you ever listened to Spiral!?). I'm not talking about class determinism but he would certainly act different if he had the tradition in the core of mind, like, let's say, Hindemith or even Henze and Von Bose. My music teacher in school had studied music with him and he described him as over pedantic. Stockhausen hated wrong notes. Sotosay the opposite of Jazz. What came to mind is also the critique of Jazz by Adorno. I dont think it has anything to do with classes, those cats just didnt like that stuff (at that time). Heiko
Re: FLUXLIST: Stockhausen
Stockhausen has, to some folks, some surprising likes and dislikes when it comes to music. Definitions concerning "low" vs "upper" class can be debated near endlessly, but you can still find him, on occasion, dancing to "dance" music that he sometimes finds fun or exciting. Miles Davis liked Stockhausen too. He got the idea of music as process from his ideas. They recorded a collaboration in 1980 along with cellist Paul Buckmaster at Columbia Records studio (now "Sony") that is still unissued. Also, the Stockhausen site that Patricia points out is a good site and for the past couple of years visitors were treated with regular updates from Suzanne Stephens about his projects, but as time has gone on, the reports have become less frequent and the last report is nearly a year old. I do wish they would bring these back... Rod --- Rafael Custodio de Lima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone mentioned that Stockhausen disliked jazz for being a low-class music. I think one of the reasons he's so original(e) is the fact he was born poor and got in touch with the so-called high music in very late age (have you ever listened to Spiral!?). I'm not talking about class determinism but he would certainly act different if he had the tradition in the core of mind, like, let's say, Hindemith or even Henze and Von Bose. By the way, I once read an interview in which Stockhausne said he liked Miles Davis music but hated Zappa... When he came to Brazil, more than ten years ago, he opened for his Markus to play some of the modern electronic jazz he plays, he's a trumpeteer... The poet Haroldo de Campos did a wonderful report about it. rafael = http://rostasi.8m.com http://www.forcedexposure.com/artists/hunt.jerry.html Utilizing the blades of technology on the facial hair of imagination __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: FLUXLIST: Stockhausen
The site does have music on it, or a video which I have been trying trying to see/hear, because my interest is piqued, (click on the music score on the right) and, of course, had to upgrade Quicktime, and can't get it to download because I fear the guy that built the box put a pirated Quicktime on it and I don't have an "access code." grr. Prrrhaps I'll try and find it somewhere else since I seem to have every other player in the world on this thing. PK "The Perils of Patricia" Rod Stasick wrote: Stockhausen has, to some folks, some surprising likes and dislikes when it comes to music. Definitions concerning "low" vs "upper" class can be debated near endlessly, but you can still find him, on occasion, dancing to "dance" music that he sometimes finds fun or exciting. Miles Davis liked Stockhausen too. He got the idea of music as process from his ideas. They recorded a collaboration in 1980 along with cellist Paul Buckmaster at Columbia Records studio (now "Sony") that is still unissued. Also, the Stockhausen site that Patricia points out is a good site and for the past couple of years visitors were treated with regular updates from Suzanne Stephens about his projects, but as time has gone on, the reports have become less frequent and the last report is nearly a year old. I do wish they would bring these back... Rod
