Re: [fossil-users] fossil coredumping and reporting malformed manifest on sparc64

2011-11-14 Thread Stephan Beal
2011/11/13 Lluís Batlle i Rossell vi...@viric.name

 I agree with Julian. There should be an answer, if the letter does not
 reach the
 list. I also like when it is not required to subscribe to send mails.


In my experience, requiring subscription cuts down greatly on the amount of
noise and essentially blocks all (or 99% of) spam from mailing lists.


 I don't think the write is related to the SIGBUS.


i don't think it has anything directly to do with it, either. i suspect
it's just bad timing or possibly memory corruption caused by stack abuse at
some other point. That said, i think that any such bug is probably
compiler-specific, since none of us are seeing it on non-sparc platforms. i
will run push/pull through valgrind this evening, but i don't expect to see
anything more drastic than a couple of standard leaks we have in (e.g.)
the argument/parameter handling.


 If it is similar to 'strace',
 the = 512 means that the syscall succeeded and returned 512.


correct: 512 is the return value of the write() call, == the number of
bytes it was asked to write (512).

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[fossil-users] Trying out fossil: two issues with branches and empty folders

2011-11-14 Thread David Bovill
Hello I've been trying out fossil, and cam across two things so far that
don't seem quite right. Could anyone advise if I am doing something wrong?

*Creating a branch*
When I use:

fossil commit --branch New Branch - m Creating a new branch

a new branch is created without a prompt, but when I use:

fossil branch new Another Branch trunk

I get prompted for my gpg password? fossil settings clearsign is set to
default, and setting it to off makes no difference.

*Empty Folders*
When switching between branches, files are removed but empty folders are
left hanging around. Empty folders also do not show up with fossil
extras. I'm looking to switch between branches, and not have separate
checkouts, but need to avoid these empty folders. What's the syntax / best
way to do this? I could I guess script something to delete all the files
before checking out a branch, but this seems ugly?
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Re: [fossil-users] Trying out fossil: two issues with branches and empty folders

2011-11-14 Thread Stephan Beal
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:17 PM, David Bovill da...@vaudevillecourt.tvwrote:

 *Empty Folders*
 When switching between branches, files are removed but empty folders are
 left hanging around. Empty folders also do not show up with fossil
 extras. I'm looking to switch between branches, and not have separate
 checkouts, but need to avoid these empty folders. What's the syntax / best
 way to do this? I could I guess script something to delete all the files
 before checking out a branch, but this seems ugly?


Fossil doesn't track directories. If you want to get rid of empty ones, one
way to do this in Unix is:

find . -type d | xargs rmdir

Notes:

a) rmdir will refuse to delete non-empty dirs, so the above will likely
spit out harmless warnings for non-emtpy dirs.
b) spaces and whatnot in the names will break the above (how best/easiest
to fix it depends partly on whether you're using GNU find or not).

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Re: [fossil-users] Trying out fossil: two issues with branches and empty folders

2011-11-14 Thread David Bovill
Thanks for that. Is the behaviour I am seeing for creating new branches
using:

fossil branch new Minimal trunc

normal (always asking for a pgp signature), or am I making a syntax error
somewhere? I've just upgraded to the latest build and ran fossil all
rebuild, but get the same behaviour?

On 14 November 2011 11:32, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:17 PM, David Bovill 
 da...@vaudevillecourt.tvwrote:

 *Empty Folders*
 When switching between branches, files are removed but empty folders are
 left hanging around. Empty folders also do not show up with fossil
 extras. I'm looking to switch between branches, and not have separate
 checkouts, but need to avoid these empty folders. What's the syntax / best
 way to do this? I could I guess script something to delete all the files
 before checking out a branch, but this seems ugly?


 Fossil doesn't track directories. If you want to get rid of empty ones,
 one way to do this in Unix is:

 find . -type d | xargs rmdir

 Notes:

 a) rmdir will refuse to delete non-empty dirs, so the above will likely
 spit out harmless warnings for non-emtpy dirs.
 b) spaces and whatnot in the names will break the above (how best/easiest
 to fix it depends partly on whether you're using GNU find or not).

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Re: [fossil-users] Trying out fossil: two issues with branches and empty folders

2011-11-14 Thread Richard Hipp
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 6:56 AM, David Bovill da...@vaudevillecourt.tvwrote:

 Thanks for that. Is the behaviour I am seeing for creating new branches
 using:

 fossil branch new Minimal trunc

 normal (always asking for a pgp signature), or am I making a syntax error
 somewhere? I've just upgraded to the latest build and ran fossil all
 rebuild, but get the same behaviour?


fossil branch new simply creates a new check-in which is unchanged from
the previous check-in.  It is equivalent to doing:

 fossil commit -f --branch Minimal

So if you have fossil configured to ask for the PGP signature when you
commit (which is off by default) then it shouldn't be asking for the PGP
signature when you do the branch new.

If it is asking for PGP signatures, that's probably a (minor) bug.  I never
do fossil branch new myself - which is why I've never noticed this.




 On 14 November 2011 11:32, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:17 PM, David Bovill 
 da...@vaudevillecourt.tvwrote:

 *Empty Folders*
 When switching between branches, files are removed but empty folders are
 left hanging around. Empty folders also do not show up with fossil
 extras. I'm looking to switch between branches, and not have separate
 checkouts, but need to avoid these empty folders. What's the syntax / best
 way to do this? I could I guess script something to delete all the files
 before checking out a branch, but this seems ugly?


 Fossil doesn't track directories. If you want to get rid of empty ones,
 one way to do this in Unix is:

 find . -type d | xargs rmdir

 Notes:

 a) rmdir will refuse to delete non-empty dirs, so the above will likely
 spit out harmless warnings for non-emtpy dirs.
 b) spaces and whatnot in the names will break the above (how best/easiest
 to fix it depends partly on whether you're using GNU find or not).

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Re: [fossil-users] Trying out fossil: two issues with branches and empty folders

2011-11-14 Thread David Bovill
On 14 November 2011 12:05, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote:

 fossil branch new simply creates a new check-in which is unchanged from
 the previous check-in.  It is equivalent to doing:

  fossil commit -f --branch Minimal


OK - thanks, the --force option will get me what I need.
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Re: [fossil-users] Trying out fossil: two issues with branches and empty folders

2011-11-14 Thread Konstantin Khomoutov
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:32:40 +0100
Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote:

[...]
 Fossil doesn't track directories. If you want to get rid of empty
 ones, one way to do this in Unix is:
 
 find . -type d | xargs rmdir
 
 Notes:
 
 a) rmdir will refuse to delete non-empty dirs, so the above will
 likely spit out harmless warnings for non-emtpy dirs.
 b) spaces and whatnot in the names will break the above (how
 best/easiest to fix it depends partly on whether you're using GNU
 find or not).
With GNU find it should be possible to just do
find . -type d -empty -delete
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[fossil-users] side-by-side diffs command line syntax

2011-11-14 Thread David Bovill
The side-by-side diffs are great, but I can't get the command line
options (--side-by-side|-y
side-by-side http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/help/diff) working. Both
these fail:

fossil diff --from previous --to current --side-by-side hello.txt
fossil diff --from previous --to current -y hello.txt

where

fossil diff --from previous --to current hello.txt

works fine (fossil version 1.20 [a75e2d2504] 2011-10-21 12:52:53 UTC).
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[fossil-users] Fossil/Git fast-import issues

2011-11-14 Thread Gareth Roberts

Hi all,

I'm attempting to export a fossil repo to git.
However, I get the following error on git import:

fatal: mark :51 not declared

Full crash log is here: https://gist.github.com/1363907

Fossil version: both latest master and 2011-10-21
Git version: 1.7.5.4
OS: Debian Linux 6.0

I've tried modifying the line in the fossil export result which is causing  
the problem

from :51
to
from :52
to see if it at least imports.

Git then crashes on defines in the source code:
fatal: Unsupported command: define _CHECKSUM_H_

Does anyone have any ideas about this?
I can supply both fast-export output and fossil repo if required.

Many thanks,
Gareth R
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Re: [fossil-users] fossil and SSL

2011-11-14 Thread ST
On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 12:50 -0500, Richard Hipp wrote:
 
 
 On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 6:39 AM, ST smn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm new to fossil and have several questions:
 
 1) how do I open new tickets on fossil-scm.org? I didn't see
 something
 like new ticket on the web UI...
 
 Anonymous ticketing was turned off because it was being flooded with
 support requests, rather than actual bug reports.  For example, if it
 had been turned on, you probably would have written a bug report for
 this very question, wouldn't you?

You are astute ;)

  We prefer to reserve tickets for reporting actual malfunctions, and
 so on fossil-scm.org, we require a username/password in order to write
 a new ticket.  That goes a long way toward keeping down the noise.
 
 It has been suggested that we create a hold for moderation system
 for tickets, such that anonymous tickets can be input, but do not
 actually go into the system until approved by a registered user.  That
 would allow random passers-by on the internet to write tickets, but
 would also let us filter the tickets to keep real bug reports and
 discard support requests, test tickets, and spam.  I'll probably add
 a moderator system at some point, when I get a chance, if somebody
 else doesn't volunteer to do it first.  But it isn't available right
 this moment.  Sorry.

With such excellent responses there is no need for this feature :)

 
 
 2) why do I have to do this
 http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/custom_ticket.wiki
 manually? Shouldn't this be there out of the box? It's kind of
 basic
 functionality that one finds in any ticket tracking app...
 
 It is there out-of-the-box.  The page above merely shows you how to
 modify the default setup, in case you want to do something a little
 different from what the out-of-the-box configuration does.
Pardon. I'm on a debian stable with fossil version from 2010-08-08
21:16:13 . I didn't see this functionality in my old fossil version and
assumed (after reading that page) that it is intentionally not
implemented.


  
 
 3) as far as I understand if one accidentally starts fossil
 server/fossil ui - it will provide insecure access to the
 repository
 even if one had configured inetd/stunnel/fossil to use SSL,
 right? Is
 there a way to avoid such situations and force fossil to
 always use SSL?
 
 fossil ui binds to 127.0.0.1 only, so it is not accessible from
 other machines on the network.  If you do fossil server then your
 repository will be accessible remotely (on port 8080 by default) but
 people still need to know user names and passwords in order to log in.

Yes, but data stream is unencrypted.

 But it seems rather difficult to accidently run fossil server, no?
 How do you accidentally start a server?

Well, only the universe can come into existence completely accidently,
what I meant was when somebody types fossil server without realizing
or forgetting for a moment that the data will be sent unencrypted.
Another possible reason for misusing fossil server could be laziness:
two employers decide to exchange data ad hoc using fossil server without
SSL because, let's say, certificate has expired, or wasn't issued (yet)
for the client, even though the client is allowed to access the repo. So
if there were option like always use SSL - disabling it would be as
difficult as issuing new certificate and the two would prefer the
later.

Thank you,
ST

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[fossil-users] renaming and modifying a file hides a delete

2011-11-14 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
(on fossil 1.20)

I've renamed a file, and modified the new one without any commit in the middle,
and then 'fossil status' or 'fossil commit' do not show that it *removes* the
old name.

Regarding a revert of that change in the working copy, it deletes the 'new
file', but does not restore the removed file. If then I do other changes, and
commit them, it does not show anything special in the commit log comments, but
it commits a silent *DELETE* for the first file I had moved.

I just had to recover a deleted file from history, because of that.

I hope someone understands the steps. :) If not, please tell me.

Regards,
Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] Internal Server Error on files page after push

2011-11-14 Thread Richard Boehme
It's fixed now; I don't know why it works, but it does work. I did the
following:

1. Delete the local fossil repository
2. Remove the _FOSSIL_ file from the local checked out directory.
3. fossil clone the server repository
4. fossil open into the local checked out directory
5. fossil add * all of the files
6. fossil commit
7. check the local repo - it has the added files
8. fossil push with the URL of the server
9. Check the server repo - it has the changed files.

Thanks.

Richard


On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Richard Boehme rboe...@gmail.com wrote:
 The directory containing the repo is also writable; I had set it to
 worls-readable and writable for a short time just to make sure.

 Thanks.

 Richard


 On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Ron Wilson ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Richard Boehme rboe...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  My local fossil copy is at C:\Users\Richard Boehme\Dropbox\apps\bin

 Are you using Dropbox to backup your repository? Is it possible
 Dropbox is doing something that interferes with Fossil?


 FWIW: i use fossil-in-dropbox for several small repos and have had no
 problems with it to-date. Dropbox won't merge conflicting repo files (it
 will instead create two copies, one of them named something like filename
 (conflict)). Nonetheless, to keep dropbox from trying to copy the
 short-lived journal files, i tend to (but don't always) disable dropbox
 while i'm working with such a repo.
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[fossil-users] [best practice] Including external dependencies

2011-11-14 Thread Jacek Cała
  Hi all,

A best practice question:
What is the preferred way to include external libraries in a fossil
repository? I mean larger dependencies like boost.
For small libs and tools like a few binary or source code files, I
tend to include them directly in the repo but for larger ones it
doesn't seem like a proper approach, esp. when the library code is
much larger than my sources.

On stackoverflow I read that git to address this issue has something
called 'subprojects'
(http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2994005/including-external-c-libraries-in-version-control).
Has anyone used that? Is creating a separate fossil repo with the
library files an equivalent way?

  Thanks,
  Jacek
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[fossil-users] fossil add + update, removes the added file

2011-11-14 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Hello,

another one!

I was in a branch. I added a file (wrote it, and fossil add file).

I decided I wanted to commit in another branch; fossil update branch. And fossil
removed the file I was about to commit.

Luckily 'fossil undo' helped... Worth fixing though.

(fossil 1.20)

Regards,
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Re: [fossil-users] fossil add + update, removes the added file

2011-11-14 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 03:21:30PM +0100, Lluís Batlle i Rossell wrote:
 I was in a branch. I added a file (wrote it, and fossil add file).
 
 I decided I wanted to commit in another branch; fossil update branch. And 
 fossil
 removed the file I was about to commit.
 
 Luckily 'fossil undo' helped... Worth fixing though.

Sorry, the error was somewhere else... forget this one; I'll send a message 
apart
about the trouble.
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[fossil-users] The ui shows me twice the same file 'added' in a checkin

2011-11-14 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
I added the same file that I had removed in a previous checkin. THe new checkin
looks like this in the UI:

Changes
--
show unified diffs show side-by-side diffs patch

Added CMakeLists.txt version [23aa5af411789697]

Added CMakeLists.txt version [23aa5af411789697]


The manifest is a delta manifest, as was the manifest of the removing checkin.
The file does not appear twice in the manifest.

I tried this in 1.20 and the current trunk, and both behave equal.

Regards,
Lluís
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Re: [fossil-users] renaming and modifying a file hides a delete

2011-11-14 Thread Kevin Quick

Lluis,

That's the same issue I noted in my email from Oct 25 (subject: mv +  
revert irregularity) and it contains a short shell script demonstrating  
the problem as you stated.  It's not clear what the proper behavior is on  
revert of this kind;  I sent a reminder email regarding the issue  
yesterday and if Richard/consensus can determine the desired behavior I'd  
be willing to try to implement that behavior.


-KQ

On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:06:14 -0700, Lluís Batlle i Rossell  
vi...@viric.name wrote:



(on fossil 1.20)

I've renamed a file, and modified the new one without any commit in the  
middle,
and then 'fossil status' or 'fossil commit' do not show that it  
*removes* the

old name.

Regarding a revert of that change in the working copy, it deletes the  
'new
file', but does not restore the removed file. If then I do other  
changes, and
commit them, it does not show anything special in the commit log  
comments, but

it commits a silent *DELETE* for the first file I had moved.

I just had to recover a deleted file from history, because of that.

I hope someone understands the steps. :) If not, please tell me.

Regards,
Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] [best practice] Including external dependencies

2011-11-14 Thread Remigiusz Modrzejewski

On Nov 14, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Jacek Cała wrote:

 A best practice question:
 What is the preferred way to include external libraries in a fossil
 repository? I mean larger dependencies like boost.
 For small libs and tools like a few binary or source code files, I
 tend to include them directly in the repo but for larger ones it
 doesn't seem like a proper approach, esp. when the library code is
 much larger than my sources.

Depends on the environment, but I'm kind of a fan of it's scripted approach. 
I remember a friend putting into our cmake some black magic that would 
downloadbuildinstall missing dependencies. I guess if your shop is homogenous 
this should not be that hard. 

Kind regards,
Remigiusz Modrzejewski



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Re: [fossil-users] [best practice] Including external dependencies

2011-11-14 Thread David Bovill
I'd like to know more about this as well. As I understand it you can nest
fossil repositories, I haven't tried it yet, but AFAIK you can have a
nested checkout within an existing checkout, and you can open it with the
fossil open --nested command.

2011/11/14 Jacek Cała jacek.c...@gmail.com

  Hi all,

 A best practice question:
 What is the preferred way to include external libraries in a fossil
 repository? I mean larger dependencies like boost.
 For small libs and tools like a few binary or source code files, I
 tend to include them directly in the repo but for larger ones it
 doesn't seem like a proper approach, esp. when the library code is
 much larger than my sources.

 On stackoverflow I read that git to address this issue has something
 called 'subprojects'
 (
 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2994005/including-external-c-libraries-in-version-control
 ).
 Has anyone used that? Is creating a separate fossil repo with the
 library files an equivalent way?

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Re: [fossil-users] [best practice] Including external dependencies

2011-11-14 Thread Richard Hipp
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:11 AM, David Bovill da...@vaudevillecourt.tvwrote:

 I'd like to know more about this as well. As I understand it you can nest
 fossil repositories, I haven't tried it yet, but AFAIK you can have a
 nested checkout within an existing checkout, and you can open it with the
 fossil open --nested command.


All --nested currently does is allow you to put one Fossil check-out inside
another.  To be really useful, we need to enhance it to go to the next
level, and automatically next commits and pushes and pulls, etc.





 2011/11/14 Jacek Cała jacek.c...@gmail.com

  Hi all,

 A best practice question:
 What is the preferred way to include external libraries in a fossil
 repository? I mean larger dependencies like boost.
 For small libs and tools like a few binary or source code files, I
 tend to include them directly in the repo but for larger ones it
 doesn't seem like a proper approach, esp. when the library code is
 much larger than my sources.

 On stackoverflow I read that git to address this issue has something
 called 'subprojects'
 (
 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2994005/including-external-c-libraries-in-version-control
 ).
 Has anyone used that? Is creating a separate fossil repo with the
 library files an equivalent way?


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Re: [fossil-users] Providing fossil as a vcs, wiki or blog for 'users'

2011-11-14 Thread Ron Wilson
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Julian Fagir listensamm...@komkon2.de wrote:

 So, my question: Do you think fossil is appropriate?

It really depends on your and your customers' needs. It works well for
decent number of projects. Certainly has has served the needs of the
projects my coworkers and I work on. I was able to implement a few
features we wanted through Fossil's built in scripting language.

Really, only you can determine of it meets your needs. As you continue
to explore its features, you should become obvious whether it will
meet your needs. In some cases, you can find solutions (or partial
solutions) either on this list, or in the Fossil cook book.

Good Luck.
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