Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership
Le 09/12/2009 20:35, Brian Cameron a écrit : I think we are mashing together a bunch of issues. So, in effect, are we looking for: [0] a way to measure what could be appropriate content for Planet GNOME [1] a way to prevent non-free or equivalent software being marketed via the Planet [2] a way to handle the consequences if there is either inappropriate content [3] a way to handle the consequences if there is a pitch for software that is orthogonal to GNOME values Is it possible to provide filters so that people who are interested in different types of blog entries can focus on what is interesting to them? Some people may only be interested in seeing technical information, and others may not want to see distro-specific things, etc. If it is done on the browser side (which cookies and some JS magic), it would exclude RSS readers. And to have it at the Atom/RSS level, it would mean having two different planets configuration. -- Frederic Crozat Mandriva ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership
Planet GNOME is about people and we display everyone's full blog feed as it represents them. There are people that work on proprietary software as well as GNOME and that's who they are. I don't think we should reject people because they don't agree with us 100% of the time. My post on hunting comes to mind. I self censor now because I didn't like the negative comments directed at my kids. But would you block my whole blog because a vocal portion of the community is anti-hunting and people in my family hunt? Now, if they aren't doing any GNOME work and all they talk about it non-free, non-GNOME software, that's different. Stormy On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org wrote: The people who work at VmWare also very often posted (and still post) about their work and appear on Planet GNOME. They should not do this, unless VmWare becomes free software. GNOME should not provide proprietary software developers with a platform to present non-free software as a good or legitimate thing. Perhaps the statement of Planet GNOME's philosophy should be interpreted differently. It should not invite people to talk about their proprietary software projects just because they are also GNOME contributors. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
GNOME Advisory Board Fees Changing
GNOME Foundation members and supporters, Thanks for all your help and support during the past year. It's been a terrific year. We've accomplished a lot of great things in 2009 (8 events in the 4th quarter alone!) and we are looking forward to an even busier 2010 as we get ready to release GNOME 3.0. For 2010, with the support of our advisory board, we are raising the GNOME Advisory board fees to $20,000 for large companies and $10,000 for small companies. The additional funding will enable us to to hold regular and active hackfests, support a small staff and support GNOME at local events worldwide. In 2010, we'll have: - A small staff that enables the community to be effective. We believe the minimum staff to keep everything running effectively is an executive director, part time administrative assistant and a system administrator. These staff skills will complement and enable our community of GNOME contributors. Having contributors who are excellent hackers, artists and documentation writers take time off to do system administration work is not the most effective use of our resources. (We do have people with great system administration skills, just not enough time.) - Establish a regular and reliable schedule for hackfests, as these are essential for getting past roadblocks and getting new initiatives going, such as GNOME 3.0! In 2009 we had plans for many essential hackfests and due to the economy and the way we had fundraising set up, we were unable to do any of the ones we had planned for the first half of the year. Maintaining a small staff and a regular schedule of key hackfests will enable us to: - Recruit and integrate new contributors quickly. GNOME's popularity and the size of its community depends on integrated and running web infrastructure. There are some efforts under way to make this happen, for example, we are updating our web site to more easily enable contributions from more people, upgrading bugzilla to improve everyone's working speed and we are adding a CRM system. This is a lot to do, which is why we need a regular system administrator who can ensure that existing contributors work effectively and new contributors come up to speed quickly. - Hackfests are one of the key ways we get great things done. GNOME 3.0 was started at the usability hackfest at last year's Boston Summit. The GTK hackfest made tremendous progress last year and the documentation hackfest this year not only improved Mallard but set an example for other free software projects. In the following year, we would like to have hackfests for GNOME 3.0 usability, user deployment, accessibility, and marketing. We need to make sure the income we can count on can support a few key hackfests without additional money. We have worked on making this plan a reality by raising more money and spending the money we have more effectively. For example: - We raised money in new ways, like Friends of GNOME which has raised $25,000 this year! (This is up 390% from last year when we raised only from $6400 over the whole year.) - We've signed up 3 new sponsors. Given the current economy, that was a great result. It's reasonable to assume to pick up some more when the economy improves. - We established a travel committee, which greatly improved the GNOME Foundation's efficiency in sponsoring travel. By organizing lodging as well as approving airfare, the travel committee was able to substantially increase the number of people who received travel assistance. For GUADEC 2009 they managed travel assistance for 39 people for $31,838. Compare that to 36 people for $41,000 in 2008. While all this has helped us, it has turned out to be insufficient to accomplish our basic plans for staffing and hackfests. Additional reasons we asked advisory board members to consider accepting a raise in advisory board members fees. - Advisory board fees have been steady for 10 years. Inflation, the value of the dollar and the economy have all changed during that time. ($10,000 in 1999 when the GNOME Foundation first started is only $7,892 in today's dollars.) - As companies vested in the interest of GNOME, they will profit from these plan, too. All the companies in our community will benefit from a better system administration structure that enables new members to join quickly as well as existing members to function most effectively. They will also benefit from usability and accessibility hackfests that affect GNOME 3.0 projects. Any marketing effort the GNOME Foundation does for the free desktop will help all of the companies that currently use and deploy GNOME technologies. - Many of them support us throughout the year. While we hope that they'lll continue to support us throughout the year, by having a larger annual donation up front, we hope to have more reliability. Thanks to all our
Supporting GTK+
Where do I go to find programmers that know how to use GTK+ ? What browser rendering engine does GTK us? ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
GTK Questions
Guys, I work at NASA, and we’re moving to a gnome linux environment. I was wondering if you could give us some inputs on the GTK toolkit. We’re migrating from X. We have several huge applications (One of which displays lists of several thousand commands to be sent to the ISS). They are memory hogs, and graphically intense (e.g., currently use a series of XmList widgets to display various fields of commands as a single row). Our options include: GTK, OpenGL, Qt, Swing, SWT, Tk, .NET and AJAX. Languages include Java, C, C++, Perl, TCL, etc. We can’t go with something that is LESS responsive than our current “X” applications written in C or C++, and we were wondering if GTK, generally speaking, is comparable to compiled X applications in response speeds and memory usage. Any info you could provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Mike Tillman mtillman3_houst...@comcast.netmailto:mtillman3_houst...@comcast.net ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership
Behdad Esfahbod a écrit : On 12/07/2009 01:32 PM, Frederic Crozat wrote: Le 27/11/2009 10:53, Murray Cumming a écrit : On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 16:50 -0200, Tristan Van Berkom wrote: Alternative proposal: lets deal with the problem at hand and get our story straight about what is planet.gnome.org, what can be posted there (i.e. no porn and vulgar language etc.) and how we can help to enforce a reasonably exact policy on an exact resource which is planet.gnome.org. planet.gnome.org is hard to moderate. Editors can only remove an entire blog. It would be easier if the software allowed the existing editors to remove a single blog post. Let's be honest too : there are a bunch of people which used to be active GNOME members, who changed their focus to other projects and are still in Planet GNOME for no reason. Maybe PGO editors should start cleaning the old cruft (no offense intended).. But I find it interesting to know, say, what Miguel is up to these days. I don't think it's just me... What about a Planet Old Gnome Farts ? People would get there from PGO one year after their last active contribution. JP PS: this idea is a little rough and may need some patching... at least the name, please! ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GTK Questions
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 09:27 -0700, TILLMAN, MICHAEL D9 wrote: [...] We can’t go with something that is LESS responsive than our current “X” applications written in C or C++, and we were wondering if GTK, generally speaking, is comparable to compiled X applications in response speeds and memory usage. Gtk+ is written in C, so should be the same speed, at least in principle. You can write slow code in any language... Liam -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ Pictures from old books: http://fromoldbooks.org/ Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org www.advogato.org ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GTK Questions
Hi Michael, If I may suggest, you might find more useful responses on the gtk-list mailing list if you're looking for a technical breakdown of how the gtk+ widgets are put together or best practices. Of course, you've made the sad mistake of alerting us of your migration and the marketing team (or maybe it's just me) now smells blood in the water. :-) sri On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 8:27 AM, TILLMAN, MICHAEL D9 michael.d9.till...@lmco.com wrote: Guys, I work at NASA, and we’re moving to a gnome linux environment. I was wondering if you could give us some inputs on the GTK toolkit. We’re migrating from X. We have several huge applications (One of which displays lists of several thousand commands to be sent to the ISS). They are memory hogs, and graphically intense (e.g., currently use a series of XmList widgets to display various fields of commands as a single row). Our options include: GTK, OpenGL, Qt, Swing, SWT, Tk, .NET and AJAX. Languages include Java, C, C++, Perl, TCL, etc. We can’t go with something that is LESS responsive than our current “X” applications written in C or C++, and we were wondering if GTK, generally speaking, is comparable to compiled X applications in response speeds and memory usage. Any info you could provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Mike Tillman mtillman3_houst...@comcast.netmailto:mtillman3_houst...@comcast.net ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Supporting GTK+
I suggest you go to http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-listfor technical questions on GTK+. In general though GTK+ doesn't use a browser rendering engine if you're referring to something like webkit. GTK+ is a widget toolkit and has it's own way of rendering widgets. Ask your question there, but please state what you're trying to do first. sri 2009/12/2 Alex Skirpa a...@savnor.com Where do I go to find programmers that know how to use GTK+ ? What browser rendering engine does GTK us? __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4655 (20091202) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
