Re: Question to GNOME Foundation Board candidates
You're right John, and some others have pointed out, that we should act by offer blogs, news and any other difussion we have access too, to promote GNOME, GTK+ apps and all its goodness; this is the right way. I love, to see more actions from GNOME Foundation to support, by contracting people making real interview to GNOME projects maintainers, point out and highlight how their work will help GNOME to be better Desktop for every one. 2016-05-25 17:22 GMT-05:00 John McHugh: > I was involved somewhat with the discussions Daniel keeps referring to. > The talk of lack of GNOME applications referred to applications targeting > the gnome HIG. Nothing to do with being open or not. > > Part of wanting to create something like this week in GNOME is to help > draw attention to efforts made by third parties to create applications > which target GNOME platform(including HIG), rather than a component of > GNOME. > > This week in rust as an example has crate of the week along with > information on new and updated crates published online. Hopefully something > similar might be achievable with Flatpaks and this week in GNOME. > > The "GTK being c and ugly" and other comments mentioned here I have no > idea about. I had mentioned that the bindings for other languages haven't > really been in healthy shape for the 3.x release but that could be in my > head. > > Like I said previously, I don't think its constructive to label those who > offer criticism as attackers. Or to attempt to try and silence them through > trademark law. > > > On Wed, 25 May 2016 at 22:18 Richard Stallman wrote: > >> > * No apps for GNOME/GTK+ >> >> If that means that we don't offer a place to download nonfree >> applications, that's not a flaw, that's a moral superiority! >> It's part of respecting users' freedom. >> >> Every GNU/Linux distro offers a system for installing packages. And, >> of course, you can install programs from elsewhere or build them from >> source. This way is the ethical way, because it gives users control >> over what versions they run. >> >> So let's turn those attacks around! Let's remind people that the >> distros' package systems are right way to distribute applications and >> GNOME works with those package systems. >> >> -- >> Dr Richard Stallman >> President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) >> Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) >> Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html. >> >> ___ >> foundation-list mailing list >> foundation-list@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list >> > -- Trabajar, la mejor arma para tu superación "de grano en grano, se hace la arena" (R) (en trámite, pero para los cuates: LIBRE) ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Question to GNOME Foundation Board candidates
Recently has been a campaign to expose GNOME weakness, like: * GTK+ is C and ugly * Bugzilla is old and user unfriendly * Developers don't here suggestions from users * No apps for GNOME/GTK+ This is a short list of thinks I heart, no my opinions. As Foundation Bouard Member: ** How do you address negative campaigns from *users*? There are a response on blog.gtk.org, but developer oriented not user oriented, then there are few diffussion about GNOME technologies goodness and use in other projects (including KDE). ** Are you planning to produce a "User Experience Road Map" for GNOME? In order to help users see how they will be beneficied with GNOME's infraestructure and/or libraries. I mean, how, for example, Gtk+ changes and roadmap, is going to help users to get the best of their favorite Desktop Environment. ** Are you planning to involve GNOME Foundation or sign an alliance with other non-profit organization, in order to support developers fixing users requested bugs/wish lists/fix beheavoir of GNOME related projects? Check at [1] [1] https://plus.google.com/110617990354745814227/posts/8Y7gSHVYt6e -- Trabajar, la mejor arma para tu superación "de grano en grano, se hace la arena" (R) (en trámite, pero para los cuates: LIBRE) ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Minutes of the Board Meeting of May, 9th, 2016
Your right Alberto. Is very important to check out how to invite him to help not just blame. I'd made when possible, but no pro-active actions back from him. And yes, any action should be on get better understand about GNOME's philosophy on community and user feedback. May offer alternative sites, where GNOME Board and maintainers, can post or discuss complaints and as a source of information to clarify some points or just to help any to highlight issues on actions taken or to allow any one to support any discussion against blames, specially if they're unsupported. El may. 16, 2016 8:54 AM, "Alberto Ruiz" <ar...@gnome.org> escribió: > That's not quite precise, his handles, domain name and twitter account > include GNOME in them as well as the descriptions: > > https://plus.google.com/+WorldofGnomeOrg > http://worldofgnome.org/ > https://twitter.com/worldofgnome > > Having said that, I'm not sure trying to shut things down with via > trademark is the appropriate response and would prolly have a Streisand > effect. At the same time, many of us have raised this concern with Alex and > it doesn't look like he fully acknowledges that he is unfairly piggybacking > on the GNOME trademark to attract attention towards his site and videos. > > I think that sponsoring Alex for a trip to GUADEC to actually understand > the people and get involved in the community process is probably a reaction > with more chances of positive outcomes than attempting to shut down a site > with 8K followers. > > > 2016-05-16 14:43 GMT+01:00 Andrea Veri <a...@gnome.org>: > >> Hey Daniel, >> >> after a quick look the person in question does not seem to use any >> GNOME-related and protected by law logo or trademark on his Google+ >> page. The posts he makes look to me like personal opinions about GNOME >> and the technologies around it. One should be either free to follow >> him or not but even the Google+ page name mentions "Wogue" as its >> title with a custom logo which doesn't seem to infringe any of the >> trademarks registered by the GNOME Foundation. >> >> If you find out any trademark infringement on the resources you >> pointed out please let the Board know and it will be investigated. >> >> 2016-05-16 14:48 GMT+02:00 Daniel Espinosa <eso...@gmail.com>: >> > Could you include a point to discuss how to avoid any organization or >> > individual, could use GNOME trademark to promote against GNOME? >> > >> > Is the case of World of GNOME (WOGUE on G+). It recently has pushed >> blaming, >> > unsupported complaints (based on real data from projects maintainers). >> > >> > While I'm not against he can publish his complaints on GNOME, I think he >> > can't use GNOME trademark to push negative, or few news to try to >> support >> > its negative ideas about GNOME. >> > >> > Sure, feedback is good, but while he is not part of GNOME Foundation, >> may he >> > is unable to use GNOME trademark to blame and no positive actions to >> help. >> > >> > El may. 16, 2016 2:53 AM, "Andrea Veri" <a...@gnome.org> escribió: >> >> >> >> = Minutes for Monday, May 9th 2016, 19:30 UTC = >> >> >> >> Next meeting date Monday, May 16th, 19:30 UTC >> >> >> >> Wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20160509 >> >> >> >> == Attending == >> >> >> >> * Alexandre Franke >> >> * Jeff F. T. (chairing) >> >> * Ekaterina Gerasimova >> >> * Cosimo Cecchi >> >> * Allan Day >> >> * Rosanna Yuen >> >> * Shaun McCance >> >> >> >> == Regrets == >> >> >> >> * Andrea Veri >> >> >> >> == Missing == >> >> >> >> >> >> == Agenda == >> >> >> >> * Preparing the advisory board meeting >> >> * ED Search Update >> >> * GUADEC Manchester bid >> >> >> >> === Ongoing === >> >> >> >> '''The following section is part of the Agenda and includes items which >> >> have seen updates in the last 30 days. Items which have been updated >> more >> >> than 30 days ago are listed under the "Ongoing but stalled" section.''' >> >> >> >> * ED Search Update >> >> * Unixstickers >> >> * Google ad grant >> >> * Selling 3rd party merch at confs >> >> * Friends of GNOME >> >> * GUADEC registration fee vs don
Re: Minutes of the Board Meeting of May, 9th, 2016
Many thanks for your response, but what about site: http://worldofgnome.org/ This is the site it used be post news to GNOME and the way it is known as World of GNOME, while using no reference in its logo, it is in its source name and web page. Now it is posting just as WOGUE on G+, but is known as World of GNOME. El may. 16, 2016 8:43 AM, "Andrea Veri" <a...@gnome.org> escribió: > Hey Daniel, > > after a quick look the person in question does not seem to use any > GNOME-related and protected by law logo or trademark on his Google+ > page. The posts he makes look to me like personal opinions about GNOME > and the technologies around it. One should be either free to follow > him or not but even the Google+ page name mentions "Wogue" as its > title with a custom logo which doesn't seem to infringe any of the > trademarks registered by the GNOME Foundation. > > If you find out any trademark infringement on the resources you > pointed out please let the Board know and it will be investigated. > > 2016-05-16 14:48 GMT+02:00 Daniel Espinosa <eso...@gmail.com>: > > Could you include a point to discuss how to avoid any organization or > > individual, could use GNOME trademark to promote against GNOME? > > > > Is the case of World of GNOME (WOGUE on G+). It recently has pushed > blaming, > > unsupported complaints (based on real data from projects maintainers). > > > > While I'm not against he can publish his complaints on GNOME, I think he > > can't use GNOME trademark to push negative, or few news to try to support > > its negative ideas about GNOME. > > > > Sure, feedback is good, but while he is not part of GNOME Foundation, > may he > > is unable to use GNOME trademark to blame and no positive actions to > help. > > > > El may. 16, 2016 2:53 AM, "Andrea Veri" <a...@gnome.org> escribió: > >> > >> = Minutes for Monday, May 9th 2016, 19:30 UTC = > >> > >> Next meeting date Monday, May 16th, 19:30 UTC > >> > >> Wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20160509 > >> > >> == Attending == > >> > >> * Alexandre Franke > >> * Jeff F. T. (chairing) > >> * Ekaterina Gerasimova > >> * Cosimo Cecchi > >> * Allan Day > >> * Rosanna Yuen > >> * Shaun McCance > >> > >> == Regrets == > >> > >> * Andrea Veri > >> > >> == Missing == > >> > >> > >> == Agenda == > >> > >> * Preparing the advisory board meeting > >> * ED Search Update > >> * GUADEC Manchester bid > >> > >> === Ongoing === > >> > >> '''The following section is part of the Agenda and includes items which > >> have seen updates in the last 30 days. Items which have been updated > more > >> than 30 days ago are listed under the "Ongoing but stalled" section.''' > >> > >> * ED Search Update > >> * Unixstickers > >> * Google ad grant > >> * Selling 3rd party merch at confs > >> * Friends of GNOME > >> * GUADEC registration fee vs donation system > >> > >> == Minutes == > >> > >> * Preparing the advisory board meeting > >> * Meeting is scheduled for Monday 16th May at 16:00 UTC > >> * Allan has a presentation draft and asks for Board members to give > some > >> presentations > >>* And also should fill in as backup speakers in case some of the > >> invitees are not able to talk > >>* Need a volunteer for ED search update > >> * Shaun is happy to talk but we need to come up with a narrative > >>* Allan will prepare a draft for slides, and will require input from > >> some Board members to add data, and general proofreading > >>* Screenshots can be taken from the release notes, and we can use > some > >> event photos too > >> > >> * ED Search Update > >> * There was a question about whether we should revise the position/job > >> description, but the Board did not come to a conclusion on this in > previous > >> discussion > >> * ACTION: Rosanna to tell Jonathan to go ahead with the job search > >> > >> * GUADEC Manchester bid > >> * The Board received a bid from Manchester for GUADEC 2017 > >> * There's a document to review > >> * We want to meet with the organizing team(s) at GUADEC this year > >> * When do we want to announce the next location? At GUADEC? > >>* For the sch
Re: GNOME trademark authorization
What about worldofgnome.org? Is not a matter to get it down with a demand. GNOME Foundation have better things to invest to, but what about to work with it/he/she in order to change ideas and the way they are exposed, making then informed and good supported? Having 8k followers and blaming is negative to the project. While some issues pointed are partially true, some of them are no supported by good sources or investigation. Is better to act with care and work around. El may. 16, 2016 9:28 AM, "Dave Neary" <nea...@gmail.com> escribió: > Hi Daniel, > > On 05/16/2016 09:41 AM, Daniel Espinosa wrote: > > How to avoid any organization or individual, could use GNOME trademark > > to promote against GNOME? > > You cannot use trademark to stop someone from calling a thing by its > trademarked name. > > For example, Mars cannot stop me from calling a Snickers a Snickers. > They can stop me calling a different peanut, nougat, caramel and > chocolate bar a Snickers. > > > Is the case of World of GNOME (WOGUE on G+). It recently has pushed > > blaming, unsupported complaints (no data about his source is based on > > real data from projects maintainers). > > Is the Wogue account talking about GNOME when they call it GNOME? If so, > there is nothing you can do using trademark. > > In terms of things which are not GNOME, you can use the GNOME trademark > if your usage is consistent with the GNOME trademark guidelines. (say, > calling a website gnome-sucks.org might be a trademark infringement, > since the gnome-sucks website is not GNOME, or consistent with the GNOME > trademark guidelines). > > There are other forms of legal recourse, but I do not think it is > appropriate to use them to stop people saying negative things about you, > unless those things are: > > 1. Clearly and provably factually inaccurate > 2. Actively harming the reputation and good standing of the project > (say, if they are getting a lot of exposure) > 3. Clearly not satire, humour, parody. > > In this case, you could try a defamation/libel case, but to what end? > > > While I'm not against he can publish his complaints on GNOME, I think he > > can't use GNOME trademark to push negative, or few news to try to > > support its negative ideas about GNOME. > > > > Sure, feedback is good, but while he is not part of GNOME Foundation, I > > think, may he is unable to use GNOME trademark to blame and no positive > > actions to help. > > I think this is a misunderstanding of trademark rules. And regardless of > whether you *could* do this, I do not think that you *should*. > > Thanks, > Dave. > > -- > Dave Neary - Boston, MA > @nearyd / http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh > Ph: +1-978-486-0168 / Cell: +1-978-799-3338 > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
GNOME trademark authorization
How to avoid any organization or individual, could use GNOME trademark to promote against GNOME? Is the case of World of GNOME (WOGUE on G+). It recently has pushed blaming, unsupported complaints (no data about his source is based on real data from projects maintainers). While I'm not against he can publish his complaints on GNOME, I think he can't use GNOME trademark to push negative, or few news to try to support its negative ideas about GNOME. Sure, feedback is good, but while he is not part of GNOME Foundation, I think, may he is unable to use GNOME trademark to blame and no positive actions to help. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Minutes of the Board Meeting of May, 9th, 2016
Could you include a point to discuss how to avoid any organization or individual, could use GNOME trademark to promote against GNOME? Is the case of World of GNOME (WOGUE on G+). It recently has pushed blaming, unsupported complaints (based on real data from projects maintainers). While I'm not against he can publish his complaints on GNOME, I think he can't use GNOME trademark to push negative, or few news to try to support its negative ideas about GNOME. Sure, feedback is good, but while he is not part of GNOME Foundation, may he is unable to use GNOME trademark to blame and no positive actions to help. El may. 16, 2016 2:53 AM, "Andrea Veri"escribió: > = Minutes for Monday, May 9th 2016, 19:30 UTC = > > Next meeting date Monday, May 16th, 19:30 UTC > > Wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20160509 > > == Attending == > > * Alexandre Franke > * Jeff F. T. (chairing) > * Ekaterina Gerasimova > * Cosimo Cecchi > * Allan Day > * Rosanna Yuen > * Shaun McCance > > == Regrets == > > * Andrea Veri > > == Missing == > > > == Agenda == > > * Preparing the advisory board meeting > * ED Search Update > * GUADEC Manchester bid > > === Ongoing === > > '''The following section is part of the Agenda and includes items which > have seen updates in the last 30 days. Items which have been updated more > than 30 days ago are listed under the "Ongoing but stalled" section.''' > > * ED Search Update > * Unixstickers > * Google ad grant > * Selling 3rd party merch at confs > * Friends of GNOME > * GUADEC registration fee vs donation system > > == Minutes == > > * Preparing the advisory board meeting > * Meeting is scheduled for Monday 16th May at 16:00 UTC > * Allan has a presentation draft and asks for Board members to give some > presentations >* And also should fill in as backup speakers in case some of the > invitees are not able to talk >* Need a volunteer for ED search update > * Shaun is happy to talk but we need to come up with a narrative >* Allan will prepare a draft for slides, and will require input from > some Board members to add data, and general proofreading >* Screenshots can be taken from the release notes, and we can use some > event photos too > > * ED Search Update > * There was a question about whether we should revise the position/job > description, but the Board did not come to a conclusion on this in previous > discussion > * ACTION: Rosanna to tell Jonathan to go ahead with the job search > > * GUADEC Manchester bid > * The Board received a bid from Manchester for GUADEC 2017 > * There's a document to review > * We want to meet with the organizing team(s) at GUADEC this year > * When do we want to announce the next location? At GUADEC? >* For the schedule proposed by Manchester, this would be possible, but > depends on how many other bids we get >* It's not a requirement to announce it at GUADEC > * There are no other bids for now > * Is there anything obvious missing from the bid? We should communicate > that sooner rather than later > * We can review the document on the m-l, collect questions and get back > to them > * ACTION: Kat will collect and send comments once we have reviewed the > document > > == Ongoing == > > '''This section includes items which have seen an update in the last 30 > days. Format is "-MM-DD, action|discussion|resume" for this and > subsequent minutes sections''' > > * ED search update > * 2015-12-01, No news received in recent weeks, mostly because of > holidays > * 2015-12-08, 3 candidates are going to have a couple of one hour > interviews with ~2 members of the hiring committee per interview. > Scheduling of these metings is just beginning. > * 2015-12-15 to 2015-01-12, No updates. > * 2016-01-19 >* Committee has completed interview with two final candidates >* They should have a final answer/proposal to the board within a few > weeks > * 2016-02-02, Expect more news this week - we'll start scheduling > interviews soon > * 2016-02-09 >* Sri from the ED committee wants to present to the Board at next > week's meeting >* A list of candidates that are deemed good and have been vetted by the > committee will be presented at the meeting > * 2016-02-16, The ED Search committee converged on a single candidate > * 2016-02-23, The item has been discussed during the meeting, details > are available at > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-announce/2016-February/msg3.html > * 2016-03-14, Jonathan Blandford (jrb) has agreed to lead > * 2016-04-11, Jonathan mailed the Board mentioning the ED Search > Committee is back on track, they'll start meeting on a regular basis again > > * Unixstickers > * 2016-02-02 >* Allan has an action item to follow up with this >* Kat put some information on the agreements page for similar cases > * 2016-02-09, Allan drafted email - need to send that out > * 2016-02-16, Allan
Re: Yorba Foundation looking to pass on copyrights
Should be an organization or individuals can step up too? El mar. 24, 2016 3:14 PM, "Josh Triplett"escribió: > On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 04:55:49PM -0400, Adam Dingle wrote: > > As some of you know, I founded Yorba, a free software non-profit based in > > San Francisco that was active from 2009-2015 and developed a few popular > > programs for GNOME including the Shotwell photo manager and the Geary > email > > client, both of which now live in GNOME git. These programs are > copyrighted > > by Yorba and a few external contributors and are licensed under the LGPL. > > > > Yorba has run out of funding and is winding down - in fact nobody has > worked > > there since around April 2015. We now need to shut down the foundation > > (which is a California non-profit corporation), but legally we can't do > so > > while it still holds any assets including the copyrights on its software, > > which are considered intellectual property. > > > > We'd love to find some other free software organization that we can pass > our > > copyrights on to. We would sell them for a nominal fee. In theory the > > copyright recipient could defend the LGPL licensing of these programs if > > necessary (though I think the likelihood of such a necessity is low). > > > > My understanding is that GNOME itself does not hold copyrights. Is > anyone > > aware of any other free software organization that might be willing and > able > > to receive our copyrights? Thanks - > > You might consider the Free Software Foundation (FSF), Software in the > Public > Interest (SPI), or the Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC). > > - Josh Triplett > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Payed Development
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Re: You logo
Hey. To use GNOME logo, modify it and endorse to your product you need written permission from GNOME Foundation. Just check out at: https://www.gnome.org/logo-and-trademarks/ and https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/FoundationBoard/Resources/LicensingGuidelines?action=showredirect=Foundation%2FLicensingGuidelines El abr 4, 2015 7:37 PM, Konstantin Falin falin...@gmail.com escribió: all right. i got it. I do not know the terminology. try to fix this gap. I'm sorry for taking the time to talk with me. 3 апр. 2015 г., в 19:40, Behdad Esfahbod behdad.esfah...@gmail.com написал(а): On 15-04-03 04:03 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: We will use the distribution Fedora 20 with the environment Gnome 3.12, as it is already tested and I like that everything is working as it should. Fedora is a GNU/Linux distribution, I thought it's a GNU/Linux/xorg/texmf/PHP/Perl/Python/HarfBuzz/... distribution. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Gnome Nanny status / update
El dic 12, 2013 5:16 p.m., Jérémy Viès jeremy.v...@gmail.com escribió: Hi all, I tried to contact the Gnome Nanny developpers, but I had no answer. I also tried to ask on gnome-devel some news about the project, but my email is waiting for approval since November 8th... So I ask here... I've made some patches to update the Gnome Nanny project (portage to python 2.7 and GTK3). How can I make this project restart ? I think you can contact any developer with write access to the project repository to push your changes. Talk with him/her in order to know how to proceed. Other option is to file bugs in bugzilla and try to contact any other to review your code. Regards, Jérémy VIES -- Theory is where you know everything, but nothing works; practice is where everything works, but nobody knows why. Here we combine theory with practice; nothing works and nobody knows why ! A.Einstein ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Gnome Nanny status / update
Seems that Daniel Mustieles and Guido Tabbernuk are the guys. Check at repository log for their contact information. El dic 12, 2013 8:48 p.m., Daniel Espinosa eso...@gmail.com escribió: El dic 12, 2013 5:16 p.m., Jérémy Viès jeremy.v...@gmail.com escribió: Hi all, I tried to contact the Gnome Nanny developpers, but I had no answer. I also tried to ask on gnome-devel some news about the project, but my email is waiting for approval since November 8th... So I ask here... I've made some patches to update the Gnome Nanny project (portage to python 2.7 and GTK3). How can I make this project restart ? I think you can contact any developer with write access to the project repository to push your changes. Talk with him/her in order to know how to proceed. Other option is to file bugs in bugzilla and try to contact any other to review your code. Regards, Jérémy VIES -- Theory is where you know everything, but nothing works; practice is where everything works, but nobody knows why. Here we combine theory with practice; nothing works and nobody knows why ! A.Einstein ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME now
Lets Call all questions as: [1] Where’s the product going? [2] What problem are we trying to solve? [3] How are we going to do that? Then lets answer as my ones: [1] Merge Mobility user interface with the desktop. Making Easy and Productivity to your work and life style. Create a productive platform for your creativity. [2] Keep you getting things done, productive and in contact with your live. Empower creativity people to produce solutions. [3] Know our users, take care about details, deep user interface testing, empower our user interface to getting things done through easy to use jet productive user interface Note. First part of all sentences points to user experience, while the last points to creative people (developers, designers, QAers) 2012/11/14 Seif Lotfy s...@lotfy.com Quoting Stormy Peters comment on a recent blog post concerning GNOME: We haven’t shared our vision or our roadmap for the future. Where’s the product going? What problem are we trying to solve? How are we going to do that? Good question. As a member of the board of directors I can't really answer this question at the moment either, without having to organize my thoughts. So many different point of views and ideas in the community that are not well discussed. The first thing that pops up in my head is GNOME OS. But then I am kinda lost. Maybe this is something we need to discuss here on the mailing list. Lets try to answer those 3 questions. What about one sentence per question for a start? I am avoiding a blog post since I am not sure its the best way to reach most of our contributors. Cheers Seif ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list -- Trabajar, la mejor arma para tu superación de grano en grano, se hace la arena (R) (en trámite, pero para los cuates: LIBRE) ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Fwd: GNOME Foundation Membership - Accepted
Find attached an introduction for my self to GNOME Foundation Membership. I found my welcome at: http://www.gnome.org/news/2012/02/welcome-to-more-new-gnome-foundation-members/ But please consider to clarify my description as LIBGDA's maintainer. The formal maintainer is Vivien Malerba. I'm the maintainer of GObject Introspection and Vala support for GDA; most of my contributions goes to add bindings (GI) friendly API and some bugfixing on GDA to make it works great! to be used in other languages through GI. Now I'm developing some extensions to GDA written in Vala, expecting to be useful for any one using C and any other languages with GI support. -- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Espinosa eso...@gmail.com Date: 2012/2/14 Subject: Re: GNOME Foundation Membership - Accepted To: foundation-annou...@gnome.org I really thanks for this distinction. I've been a GNOME enthusiasts from its early 1.x versions, but a real user since 2.x era. I've joined GNOME fan due to its philosophy and the way it is conducted by all its early and new developers. In 1998 a took the adventure to use just GNOME as my full time desktop, trying to use StarOffice since to do my work dominated by Microsoft technologies; thanks to projects like Wine and CodeWeavers, I had been able to use MS Office to work on, that was the great step forward to use GNOME full time. At that time the killer feature of GNOME, some other free-desktops, the ability to have more than one desktop empower my productivity, allowing me to work with my work in different tasks and develop software, by quickly switching to related applications I have to use. I missed that productivity in GNOME 3 though, I hope 3.4 comes with good news - filed bug 651022https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=651022and helping on *648994* https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=648994 . I've developed some PHP/PostgreSQL/Apache document management system to help me at work. Here was when I joined GNOME Data Access library and start to help them with improvements like port from custom generic data handler GdaValue to GValue with the objective to get access to C#/Mono technology and improve my database/web software, but that never happends and now Mono/Gtk+ bridge seems to be broken for me because they have unable to sync with Gtk+ improvements. GDA and GNOME way to get thinks done, has inspired me to get more improvements in the way I conduct my innovations at work, by changing/adapting my self and co-workers (when they are ready to change) to new horizons and new technologies, like adopting IEC 61850 as the base technology for Substation Automation Systems. Then I took the oportunity to be the CEO like of new open source software, unique in an industry dominated by propietary solutions, called OpenSCLConfigurator and my own development OpenSASConfigurator to edit XML documents based on IEC 61850-6 Substation Configuration Language[1]. I started to help GXml to support Autotools and see if I can add GObject serialization to XML and use it in OpenSCL library to read/write SCL files to drop C#/Mono dependency and bring Gtk+ 3.x to my applications. In all my efforts for innovations at my work, I've tried to help GNOME in translations; some time ago a group of enthusiasts founded www.lenmex.org, a dead effort to get GNOME to Mexican endemic languages like Nahuatl - if you found some translations on it I made them, just using a Spanish/Nahuatl dictionary-, but never get support for native speekers. At the same time I fire some suggestions on Pootle to get support to show two languages in its translation interface, in this case because most of potential translators can use Spanish but not English. Today I'm trying to help GDA to support GObject Introspection (GI) and create the best platform to develop Database Access software, by improving API and make it bindings friendly; I love if GDA gets easy and feature rich a la Django framework, but for any language. I'm adding new ways to access databases using Vala, by GDA's vala-extensions and implementing Gee interfaces collections. In the middle I found lots of opportunities to improve GDA's API to make it bindings friendly, by adding GI annotations and patching VAPI bindings generation. At my work, I'm pushing to use Open Source Software as the investment protection technology for critical applications and the base for new developments for international standards. When possible and when other are ready to hear, I made elitism to choose open source solutions and distribute news about governments adopting them to ask: Can we do it too? I used to help GnuCash to improve it and port to GObject, but found my self not productive, then I've desided to start a new library called libcash at SourceForge, but I want to re-write it using Vala to speed up its development. May be in the feature it can be used as a GNOME 3 application to manage your money. [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/opensclconfig/ 2012/2