[fpc-pascal] fpweb and http authentication
Hello, How can I create http authentication using fpWeb ? I found on WWWAuthenticate, but I do not understand how to use it. Ido LINESIP - Opening the source for communication http://www.linesip.com http://www.linesip.co.il ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] fpweb and http authentication
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, ik wrote: Hello, How can I create http authentication using fpWeb ? I found on WWWAuthenticate, but I do not understand how to use it. Check the Authorization header. If it does not contain a valid authentication, you just have to send a 401 response code and include a WWW-Authenticate header field describing the authentication: http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec17.html#bib43 this will tell the browser to ask a username/password. If the Authorization header contains a valid authentication, then proceed as normal. Michael. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] fpweb and http authentication
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:12, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, ik wrote: Hello, How can I create http authentication using fpWeb ? I found on WWWAuthenticate, but I do not understand how to use it. Check the Authorization header. If it does not contain a valid authentication, you just have to send a 401 response code and include a WWW-Authenticate header field describing the authentication: http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec17.html#bib43 this will tell the browser to ask a username/password. If the Authorization header contains a valid authentication, then proceed as normal. How can I make it to prompt for Authentication and how can I make it both BASIC and Digest authentication ? Michael. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal Ido ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] fpweb and http authentication
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, ik wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:12, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, ik wrote: Hello, How can I create http authentication using fpWeb ? I found on WWWAuthenticate, but I do not understand how to use it. Check the Authorization header. If it does not contain a valid authentication, you just have to send a 401 response code and include a WWW-Authenticate header field describing the authentication: http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec17.html#bib43 this will tell the browser to ask a username/password. If the Authorization header contains a valid authentication, then proceed as normal. How can I make it to prompt for Authentication and how can I make it both BASIC and Digest authentication ? It is described in the URL cited above. Michael. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] fpweb and http authentication
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:42, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, ik wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:12, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, ik wrote: Hello, How can I create http authentication using fpWeb ? I found on WWWAuthenticate, but I do not understand how to use it. Check the Authorization header. If it does not contain a valid authentication, you just have to send a 401 response code and include a WWW-Authenticate header field describing the authentication: http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec17.html#bib43 this will tell the browser to ask a username/password. If the Authorization header contains a valid authentication, then proceed as normal. How can I make it to prompt for Authentication and how can I make it both BASIC and Digest authentication ? It is described in the URL cited above. So It's not implemented at the moment ? Michael. Ido ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
[fpc-pascal] creating cross compiler to fpc
Hello, I'm trying to create a cross compiler for FPC to be 32 bit on Linux. My problem is that as and ld for 32 bit called as86 and ld86. How can I tell to the make command to use these two rather then i386-linux-as and i386-linux-ld ? Thanks, Ido LINESIP - Opening the source for communication http://www.linesip.com http://www.linesip.co.il ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] creating cross compiler to fpc
On 15/06/11 14:02, ik wrote: Hello, I'm trying to create a cross compiler for FPC to be 32 bit on Linux. My problem is that as and ld for 32 bit called as86 and ld86. How can I tell to the make command to use these two rather then i386-linux-as and i386-linux-ld ? Just create a symlink with `ln`. Henry ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Pseudographics in FPC-IDE
Nikolay Nikolov: Basically, all it does is, it checks if the LANG variable contains ґUTF-8' as a substring (not sure if it is the right way to do it, but it works for Fedora, Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, Mandriva and latest Debian) and if it does, it writes UTF-8 characters to the console, by using an internal CP437 to UTF-8 conversion table. Then my guessing was correct, but in this case there is a better solution. Instead of relying on the value of LANG, FP-IDE should directly check the con- sole mode. This can be done using the 'kbd_mode' command. If the mode reported is UTF-8, then use the translation table, otherwise assume CP437. At least, this will make it more reliable with UTF-8 consoles. Anton ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Installing FPC 2.4.4 for Ubuntu / Mint + other thoughts
Juha, I just want to have a working compiler for Lazarus SVN versions but it is difficult. Yes, I recognize this from the past... This is how I set it up on Suse 10.0 (I cannot use the rpm's my Suse is just too old, it refuses installing fpc rpm's since long time ago) Go to the general download page from fpc: http://freepascal.org/download.var From binaries select your processor (mine is Intel/i386) and click on your OS (Linux) In my case (Intel/i386) this will lead me to http://freepascal.org/down/i386/linux.var Select a Mirror: From Download in 1 big file select: fpc-2.4.4.i386-linux.tar This file contains an installscript, which will install the compiler. At this point you have a working compiler on your system. So you can build Lazarus from SVN. In addition, for Lazarus Codetools you need the fpc sources, which you can obtain easily: http://freepascal.org/down/source/sources.var Select a Mirror, then one of these (if you do not need the sources for the compiler) Zip file: fpc-2.4.4.source.zip (26 MB) Gzipped Tar file: fpc-2.4.4.source.tar.gz (22 MB) The drawback for this method is that your package manager has no idea nymore about which version of Fpc (binary and sources) is installed, and you'll have to delet old versions yourself. It works for me though (I've been doing this since Laz 0.9.26/fpc 2.2.2) Hope this helps in any way. Bart ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
RE : [fpc-pascal] Installing FPC 2.4.4 for Ubuntu / Mint + other thoughts
A quick improvement for ftp://ftp.hu.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/dist/2.4.4/i386-linux/deb/ ftp://ftp.hu.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/dist/2.4.4/i386-linux/deb/ is to upgrade it to a repository. Include the attached file in the above directory and you can access it as normal repository by adding deb ftp://ftp.hu.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/dist/2.4.4/i386-linux/deb/ ftp://ftp.hu.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/dist/2.4.4/i386-linux/deb/ ./ to /etc/apt/sources.list (or using the Software Sources application in ubuntu). The file is created with dpkg-scanpackages and compressed. I've tried this on my local ftp server after having copied all deb's and both a fresh install and the upgrade from 2.4.0 (original ubuntu one) to 2.4.4 worked fine by installing/upgrading the meta package fpc. Since I don't know the PGP key used to create the deb's I do get NOT AUTHENTICATED warnings when installing fpc. The key is different from the one used for the old lazarus repository http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_release_version_for_Ubuntu. Ludo -Message d'origine- De : fpc-pascal-boun...@lists.freepascal.org [mailto:fpc-pascal-boun...@lists.freepascal.org] De la part de Juha Manninen Envoyé : mardi 14 juin 2011 19:12 À : FPC-Pascal users discussions Objet : [fpc-pascal] Installing FPC 2.4.4 for Ubuntu / Mint + other thoughts I found the packages for Debian / Ubuntu / Mint : ftp://ftp.hu.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/dist/2.4.4/i386-linux/deb/ How to install it? Am I really supposed to download those ~40 packages separately and then install them in some specific order? Other people have brougt this up, too, and I understand why. I just want to have a working compiler for Lazarus SVN versions but it is difficult. I had to change my machine configuration, USB web-stick doesn't work on my Linux, I have a new Windows 7, Mint Linux on VirtualBox etc. It makes me angry that I can't install FPC and Lazarus easily. I know how the casual visitors feel when they can't install easily. For 90% of them it is a turn-off and they go to test something else. That is why I wrote earlier that an easy installation would be a killer-feature for both FPC and Lazarus. There would be 10 times more people trying it (100% instead of 10%). How to improve it? For windows, I have explained some errors in the installation instructions. The source link leads to a wrong place. Also, the sources are not included in the default package even they are needed practically always. I wrote earlier about it. Also, if someone wants a compiler fo 64-bit Windows, he certainly selects the wrong cross-compiler because it is mentioned only in the very end. I did the same mistake again just few days ago. On Linux, even a major distro like Ubuntu has so old versions of FPC and Lazarus. Why? I guess the releases should be advertized more to some maintainers. How does it work in practice? Who advertizes to who? Next I will try Suse and Sabayon under VirtualBox, I hope they work. At least they have easy-to-install, recent FPC packages. I really don't know why Ubuntu is so popular... Juha Packages.gz Description: Binary data ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
[fpc-pascal] https
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Re: [fpc-pascal] https
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 17:32, Rainer Stratmann rainerstratm...@t-online.de wrote: Is there a solution for https somewhere? What do you mean exactly ? ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] https
Am Wednesday 15 June 2011 16:42:16 schrieb ik: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 17:32, Rainer Stratmann rainerstratm...@t-online.de wrote: Is there a solution for https somewhere? What do you mean exactly ? As I understand from here http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?topic=6361.0 and here http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?topic=13312.0 fpweb only works with Apache. Before I read that I thought fpweb is a kind of (complete or not) webserver. I wrote already my own webserver http://demo.klimaregelung.de which is able to make dynamic websites, png graphic and so on completely in freepascal (thus no dependencies to Apache or a png library, but so far only uncompressed png's) and wanted to add https support for a more secure communication. As I understand it there is no solution for https available... ...except to rely on Apache. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
[fpc-pascal] Re: creating cross compiler to fpc
Unfortunately we only have custom prefix option (-XP), no suffix. You can try Henry's suggestion. -- View this message in context: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/creating-cross-compiler-to-fpc-tp4491156p4491548.html Sent from the Free Pascal - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
RE : [fpc-pascal] https
Synapse (http://www.ararat.cz/synapse/doku.php) has https server support and works with fpc. A demo server is included with the sources. Ludo -Message d'origine- De : fpc-pascal-boun...@lists.freepascal.org [mailto:fpc-pascal-boun...@lists.freepascal.org] De la part de Rainer Stratmann Envoyé : mercredi 15 juin 2011 17:02 À : FPC-Pascal users discussions Objet : Re: [fpc-pascal] https Am Wednesday 15 June 2011 16:42:16 schrieb ik: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 17:32, Rainer Stratmann rainerstratm...@t-online.de wrote: Is there a solution for https somewhere? What do you mean exactly ? As I understand from here http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?topic=6361.0 and here http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?topic=13312.0 fpweb only works with Apache. Before I read that I thought fpweb is a kind of (complete or not) webserver. I wrote already my own webserver http://demo.klimaregelung.de which is able to make dynamic websites, png graphic and so on completely in freepascal (thus no dependencies to Apache or a png library, but so far only uncompressed png's) and wanted to add https support for a more secure communication. As I understand it there is no solution for https available... ...except to rely on Apache. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
[fpc-pascal] Re: https
As I understand from here http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?topic=6361.0 and here http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?topic=13312.0 fpweb only works with Apache. Huh? Who said that? It should work with any web server capable of serving CGI. Before I read that I thought fpweb is a kind of (complete or not) webserver. Not really, but it has the possibility to be made so. See EmbWeb package (run your fppkg). -- View this message in context: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/https-tp4491421p4491558.html Sent from the Free Pascal - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] XML read
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Bart bartjun...@gmail.com wrote:
My XmlToList procedure is based upon the XmlToTree example in the wiki.
There are no memory leaks in my code (checked it with heaptrace).
Hi Bart,
Below is my simple way to get all Text for each Page:
program t_xml;
{$mode objfpc}{$H+}
uses
Classes, sysutils, dom, XMLRead;
procedure ProcessPage(ANode: TDOMNode; APageNo: Integer);
var
Node: TDOMNode;
begin
if not Assigned(ANode) then
Exit;
Node := ANode.FirstChild;
while Assigned(Node) do
begin
if Node.CompareName('Text') = 0 then
begin
writeln(Node.TextContent); // do anything...
end;
Node := Node.NextSibling;
ProcessPage(Node, APageNo);
end;
end;
procedure ProcessNodes(ANode: TDOMNode);
var
Node: TDOMNode;
PageNo: Integer;
begin
if not Assigned(ANode) then
Exit;
Node := ANode.FirstChild;
while Assigned(Node) do
begin
if Node.CompareName('Page') = 0 then
begin
PageNo := StrToInt(Node.Attributes.GetNamedItem('number').NodeValue);
ProcessPage(Node, PageNo);
end;
Node := Node.NextSibling;
ProcessNodes(Node);
end;
end;
var
Doc: TXMLDocument;
begin
ReadXMLFile(Doc, 'cc.xml');
try
ProcessNodes(Doc);
finally
Doc.Free;
end;
end.
Thanks for you example!
BTW, I could not use FindNode('Pages'). Looks like is broke, isn't?
Marcos Douglas
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Re: [fpc-pascal] https
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 18:01, Rainer Stratmann rainerstratm...@t-online.de wrote: Am Wednesday 15 June 2011 16:42:16 schrieb ik: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 17:32, Rainer Stratmann rainerstratm...@t-online.de wrote: Is there a solution for https somewhere? What do you mean exactly ? As I understand from here http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?topic=6361.0 and here http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?topic=13312.0 fpweb only works with Apache. Before I read that I thought fpweb is a kind of (complete or not) webserver. fpWeb can work with any HTTP server out there as CGI and FastCGI. It is not a web server (although you have code to build one yourself), but basic tools to start writing CGI. I wrote already my own webserver http://demo.klimaregelung.de which is able to make dynamic websites, png graphic and so on completely in freepascal (thus no dependencies to Apache or a png library, but so far only uncompressed png's) and wanted to add https support for a more secure communication. As I understand it there is no solution for https available... ...except to rely on Apache. SSL is a very low level protocol. it open a tunnel over TCP, so it's better to have an existed tool to support it, but if you must, you can add it yourself by using libopenssl. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal Ido ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] https
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, ik wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 18:01, Rainer Stratmann rainerstratm...@t-online.de wrote: Am Wednesday 15 June 2011 16:42:16 schrieb ik: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 17:32, Rainer Stratmann rainerstratm...@t-online.de wrote: Is there a solution for https somewhere? What do you mean exactly ? As I understand from here http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?topic=6361.0 and here http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?topic=13312.0 fpweb only works with Apache. Before I read that I thought fpweb is a kind of (complete or not) webserver. fpWeb can work with any HTTP server out there as CGI and FastCGI. It is not a web server (although you have code to build one yourself), but basic tools to start writing CGI. fpweb has a web server application type since a couple of weeks. This is a simple web server, without support for https. It can be used for debugging purposes, or for simple webservices. Michael. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: https
Am Wednesday 15 June 2011 17:14:02 schrieb leledumbo: As I understand from here http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?topic=6361.0 and here http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?topic=13312.0 fpweb only works with Apache. Huh? Who said that? It should work with any web server capable of serving CGI. It seems like when reading the posts. Ok now I know there are other solutions also. My Webserver crashed, now I compiled with debug information. Please try again heavily :-) http://demo.klimaregelung.de ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
RE : [fpc-pascal] Installing FPC 2.4.4 for Ubuntu / Mint + other thoughts
Resend: Outlook keeps converting to html messages... A quick improvement for ftp://ftp.hu.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/dist/2.4.4/i386-linux/deb/ is to upgrade it to a repository. Include the attached file in the above directory and you can access it as normal repository by adding deb ftp://ftp.hu.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/dist/2.4.4/i386-linux/deb/ ./ to /etc/apt/sources.list (or using the Software Sources application in ubuntu). The file is created with dpkg-scanpackages and compressed. I've tried this on my local ftp server after having copied all deb's and both a fresh install and the upgrade from 2.4.0 (original ubuntu one) to 2.4.4 worked fine by installing/upgrading the meta package fpc. Since I don't know the PGP key used to create the deb's I do get NOT AUTHENTICATED warnings when installing fpc. The key is different from the one used for the old lazarus repository http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_release_version_for_Ubuntu. Ludo Packages.gz Description: Binary data ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Installing FPC 2.4.4 for Ubuntu / Mint + other thoughts
Am I really supposed to download those ~40 packages separately Usually, in situations like this, one just installs a meta package with a package manager. The meta package is just a list of required dependencies, and downloads other packages as needed. I installed this one. http://packages.debian.org/sid/fpc-2.4.4 Easy painless. Also, the Debian package is dated May-23, the date of the release. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
RE : [fpc-pascal] Installing FPC 2.4.4 for Ubuntu / Mint + otherthoughts
Adding debian unstable repositories in Ubuntu is asking for trouble. Next time you upgrade your packages you can be in deep s**t. Ludo -Message d'origine- De : fpc-pascal-boun...@lists.freepascal.org [mailto:fpc-pascal-boun...@lists.freepascal.org] De la part de Peter Envoyé : mercredi 15 juin 2011 19:28 À : fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org Objet : Re: [fpc-pascal] Installing FPC 2.4.4 for Ubuntu / Mint + otherthoughts Am I really supposed to download those ~40 packages separately Usually, in situations like this, one just installs a meta package with a package manager. The meta package is just a list of required dependencies, and downloads other packages as needed. I installed this one. http://packages.debian.org/sid/fpc-2.4.4 Easy painless. Also, the Debian package is dated May-23, the date of the release. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: RE : [fpc-pascal] Installing FPC 2.4.4 for Ubuntu / Mint + otherthoughts
On 15 June 2011 19:26, Ludo Brands ludo.bra...@free.fr wrote: Adding debian unstable repositories in Ubuntu is asking for trouble. Next time you upgrade your packages you can be in deep s**t. Just make sure you pin the unstable repo lower than everything else, then use: apt-get -t unstable install fpc-2.4.4 (to pull in the necessary dependencies) or apt-get install fpc-2.4.4/unstable (if you don't want anything on your system to be upgraded). Henry ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
RE : RE : [fpc-pascal] Installing FPC 2.4.4 for Ubuntu / Mint +otherthoughts
Adding debian unstable repositories in Ubuntu is asking for trouble. Next time you upgrade your packages you can be in deep s**t. Just make sure you pin the unstable repo lower than everything else, then use: We were talking to make fpc easier to install for the average ubuntu user. This is as clear as mud for the average user I would say. apt-get -t unstable install fpc-2.4.4 (to pull in the necessary dependencies) or apt-get install fpc-2.4.4/unstable (if you don't want anything on your system to be upgraded). Henry ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Pseudographics in FPC-IDE
On 06/15/2011 04:15 PM, Anton Shepelev wrote: Nikolay Nikolov: Basically, all it does is, it checks if the LANG variable contains ґUTF-8' as a substring (not sure if it is the right way to do it, but it works for Fedora, Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, Mandriva and latest Debian) and if it does, it writes UTF-8 characters to the console, by using an internal CP437 to UTF-8 conversion table. Then my guessing was correct, but in this case there is a better solution. Instead of relying on the value of LANG, FP-IDE should directly check the con- sole mode. This can be done using the 'kbd_mode' command. If the mode reported is UTF-8, then use the translation table, otherwise assume CP437. At least, this will make it more reliable with UTF-8 consoles. Yes, but there are still several issues: 1) It only works on the linux console. It doesn't work under xterm, gnome-terminal, konsole, etc and we still need a way to detect if they are in UTF-8 mode or not. 2) IIRC, it only checks if the keyboard input is in UTF-8 mode. What we actually care about is whether the console output (not input) is in UTF-8 mode. But I guess it's ok to assume that if the input is UTF-8, then then output is also most likely to be UTF-8. 3) I don't like the idea of having to invoke an external program and parse its output, but this could be done by directly invoking the ioctl that kbd_mode uses. Do you know how many linux distros (besides Puppy Linux) would need this? When I came up with the 'UTF-8' string check in the LANG variable, I tested Fedora, Ubuntu, openSUSE, Mandriva and Debian and they all worked this way, so I figured it's a de facto standard. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: RE : RE : [fpc-pascal] Installing FPC 2.4.4 for Ubuntu / Mint +otherthoughts
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Ludo Brands ludo.bra...@free.fr wrote: We were talking to make fpc easier to install for the average ubuntu user. This is as clear as mud for the average user I would say. Well, one would hope the average developer would be a bit farther along the learning curve than the average user. That said, I've struggled with pinning packages in Ubuntu as well. The thing is, I'd never expect packages of the _development_ branch to ever play nice with the _stable_ packages of the system. Jeff. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: RE : RE : [fpc-pascal] Installing FPC 2.4.4 for Ubuntu / Mint +otherthoughts
On 15 June 2011 22:08, Ludo Brands ludo.bra...@free.fr wrote: Adding debian unstable repositories in Ubuntu is asking for trouble. Next time you upgrade your packages you can be in deep s**t. Just make sure you pin the unstable repo lower than everything else, then use: We were talking to make fpc easier to install for the average ubuntu user. This is as clear as mud for the average user I would say. Then they need to accept that they will not be able to run the latest release, just like every other average user. This is the reality in a stable distro. Hopefully the average users will mature into developers eventually and not shy away from editing a text file if they wish to use the latest greatest version of their favourite programming language. For example, debian stable ships gcc 4.4.5, which is quite far from being the latest release. Also, please note that we are (hopefully) talking about people with more savvy than your average user. Henry ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: RE : RE : [fpc-pascal] Installing FPC 2.4.4 for Ubuntu / Mint +otherthoughts
On 15 June 2011 22:31, DaWorm daw...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Ludo Brands ludo.bra...@free.fr wrote: We were talking to make fpc easier to install for the average ubuntu user. This is as clear as mud for the average user I would say. Well, one would hope the average developer would be a bit farther along the learning curve than the average user. That said, I've Indeed. I think this point is often overlooked. Henry ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: RE : RE : [fpc-pascal] Installing FPC 2.4.4 for Ubuntu / Mint +otherthoughts
If folks prefer to stick with ftp://ftp.hu.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/dist/2.4.4/i386-linux/deb/ then fpc_2.4.4-0_all.deb is probably the [single meta]package to install. A readme file in the folder clearly explaining that would be helpful. On 15/06/11 22:08, Ludo Brands wrote: Adding debian unstable repositories in Ubuntu is asking for trouble. Next time you upgrade your packages you can be in deep s**t. Just make sure you pin the unstable repo lower than everything else, then use: We were talking to make fpc easier to install for the average ubuntu user. This is as clear as mud for the average user I would say. apt-get -t unstable install fpc-2.4.4 (to pull in the necessary dependencies) or apt-get install fpc-2.4.4/unstable (if you don't want anything on your system to be upgraded). Henry ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Installing FPC 2.4.4 for Ubuntu / Mint + other thoughts
Thanks, there are many ways to install. I used the Bart's system which is easy although it bypasses the package manager. I believe the Linux installation could be improved with build-servers like Suse has and other distros, too. There is no fundamental problem with it. Linux is still a superior platform for open-source software. Unfortunately for commercial software it is not. There is not one Linux but many variations, and supporting binary installs for all is quite impossible. Source code can be made portable more easily but commercial software must deploy binaries. I have a new job (http://www.cadworkssoftware.com/) and realized how big problem it is. Even the big mechanical CAD programs support Windows only, although it used to be the domain of Unix. Seems like Linux will remain an open-source domain. Ok then, no problem... Juha ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
