Re: [fpc-pascal] Killing the mail list
On 22/03/2020 16:19, Bo Berglund via fpc-pascal wrote: > On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 08:58:36 -0700 (PDT), geneb > wrote: > >> Use NNTP. I think the fpc lists are mirrored here at news.gmane.io. > > Exactly! Again: please take this discussion to fpc-other. Thanks, Jonas ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Killing the mail list
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 08:58:36 -0700 (PDT), geneb wrote: >Use NNTP. I think the fpc lists are mirrored here at news.gmane.io. Exactly! This is what I have done since I began following FPC/Lazarus (using the GMane mirror of the mail list) and now I have a local searchable threaded archive of it all dating back to 2003 inside my news reader! I was worried a short time ago when GMane suddenly stopped working but it turned out to be because of loss of the gmane.com domain... It was soon online again under the domain news.gmane.io and after changing my newsreader settings to that it just seamlessly continued working. This is a LOT BETTER than the web based forums where you have no overview (I also use the Lazarus forum, but I could not live without the mirrored mail list.) -- Bo Berglund Developer in Sweden ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Killing the mail list
I completely agree with that! /Torsten On 15/03/2020 18.34, Alexander Grotewohl wrote: Not that I'm anyone special but I and many others who lurk for the most part would probably just lose track of the project. -- Alexander Grotewohl https://dcclost.com *From:* fpc-pascal on behalf of Michael Van Canneyt *Sent:* Sunday, March 15, 2020 1:09:22 PM *To:* FPC-Pascal users discussions *Subject:* Re: [fpc-pascal] Killing the mail list On Sun, 15 Mar 2020, Jonas Maebe wrote: > On 15/03/2020 14:55, Ryan Joseph via fpc-pascal wrote: >> Has there ever been any discussion into replacing it with a modern web based forum? > > There are web forums if you prefer them to using a mailing list: > https://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/ (see the forums under the "Free > Pascal" header). > > There are no plans to remove the mailing lists. Indeed, I hope not. Michael. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Killing the mail list
On 3/17/20 11:51 PM, Ryan Joseph via fpc-pascal wrote: On Mar 18, 2020, at 1:31 AM, Kevin Monceaux wrote: It's 2020 and the mail list is starting to really show its age. With age comes wisdom. No need to discuss this further, everyone loves the mail list. I'll try using the forums instead. it should be noted that the forum(a) and the mailing list are not synced at all and do not carry the same conversations... the mailing list is gated to news, though... you'll have a much different audience on the forums than here... -- NOTE: No off-list assistance is given without prior approval. *Please keep mailing list traffic on the list where it belongs!* ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Killing the mail list
> On Mar 18, 2020, at 1:31 AM, Kevin Monceaux wrote: > >> It's 2020 and the mail list is starting to really show its age. > > With age comes wisdom. No need to discuss this further, everyone loves the mail list. I'll try using the forums instead. Regards, Ryan Joseph ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Killing the mail list
On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 08:55:00PM +0700, Ryan Joseph via fpc-pascal wrote:
> It's 2020 and the mail list is starting to really show its age.
With age comes wisdom.
> I don't get first messages from gmail
That sounds like a gmail issue.
> and my personal web host is whitelisted,
What does web hosts have to do with mailing lists?
> messages bounce when I use the wrong account by accident,
As they should.
> hard to search the archives,
I find my local archive of the list very easy to search.
> can't post images and code easily (big problem!),
Program HelloWorld;
Begin
WriteLn('Hello, world!!');
End.
Seems easy to post code to me. I haven't tried posting images.
> messages gets lost or un-threaded when subjects are incorrect,
Upgrade your mail client. Modern mail clients should thread messages based
on Message-Id and In-reply-to headers, not subjects.
> Has there ever been any discussion into replacing it with a modern web
> based forum?
If the list is ever downgraded to an online forum, I will stop following it.
I've tried following a variety of online forms over the years. I've never
managed to follow any of them for very long.
--
Kevin
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Re: [fpc-pascal] Killing the mail list
On 16/03/2020 03:16, Ryan Joseph via fpc-pascal wrote: > Thanks, this looks really helpful. How does this nabble.com site work? It > looks like it can intercept the messages from the mail list or something. Please move this discussion to the fpc-other mailing list. Thanks, Jonas ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Killing the mail list
> On Mar 16, 2020, at 12:36 AM, fredvs via fpc-pascal > wrote: > > Hello. > > You may use http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/ > > This forum is an archive for the mailing list > fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org > > Fre;D Looks like everyone here likes the mailing list. Very well then. Thanks, this looks really helpful. How does this nabble.com site work? It looks like it can intercept the messages from the mail list or something. Regards, Ryan Joseph ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Killing the mail list
On 3/15/2020 6:55 AM, Ryan Joseph via fpc-pascal wrote: It's 2020 and the mail list is starting to really show its age. I don't get first messages from gmail and my personal web host is whitelisted, messages bounce when I use the wrong account by accident, hard to search the archives, can't post images and code easily (big problem!), messages gets lost or un-threaded when subjects are incorrect, and the list goes on (pun not intended). Has there ever been any discussion into replacing it with a modern web based forum? I don't know how to manage this migration but it should be a goal for the future in my opinion. Personally I really like the format used in forum.sublimetext.com which is from www.discourse.org. Completely irrelevant what year it is, I much rather prefer the mailing list over a forum. The main reason is simply that the mailing list is "non interactive", meaning my email client gets the new posts automatically and puts them in a suitable subfolder, where I can read and react to them at my leisure, I am not required to actively check if there is something new or a reply to an existing thread I am interested in. A lot of issues that you mention can happen on a forum as well, so that is no argument. There are a lot of forums that in fact restrict the posting of images and other forms of attachments, simply to ward off the never ending endeavors of spam/malware spewing miscreants... Ralf -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Killing the mail list
Hello. You may use http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/ This forum is an archive for the mailing list fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org Fre;D - Many thanks ;-) -- Sent from: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/ ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Killing the mail list
Not that I'm anyone special but I and many others who lurk for the most part would probably just lose track of the project. -- Alexander Grotewohl https://dcclost.com From: fpc-pascal on behalf of Michael Van Canneyt Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 1:09:22 PM To: FPC-Pascal users discussions Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] Killing the mail list On Sun, 15 Mar 2020, Jonas Maebe wrote: > On 15/03/2020 14:55, Ryan Joseph via fpc-pascal wrote: >> Has there ever been any discussion into replacing it with a modern web based >> forum? > > There are web forums if you prefer them to using a mailing list: > https://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/ (see the forums under the "Free > Pascal" header). > > There are no plans to remove the mailing lists. Indeed, I hope not. Michael. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Killing the mail list
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020, Jonas Maebe wrote: On 15/03/2020 14:55, Ryan Joseph via fpc-pascal wrote: Has there ever been any discussion into replacing it with a modern web based forum? There are web forums if you prefer them to using a mailing list: https://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/ (see the forums under the "Free Pascal" header). There are no plans to remove the mailing lists. Indeed, I hope not. Michael. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Killing the mail list
Ryan Joseph via fpc-pascal schrieb am So., 15. März 2020, 15:33: > It's 2020 and the mail list is starting to really show its age. I don't > get first messages from gmail and my personal web host is whitelisted, > messages bounce when I use the wrong account by accident, hard to search > the archives, can't post images and code easily (big problem!), messages > gets lost or un-threaded when subjects are incorrect, and the list goes on > (pun not intended). > > Has there ever been any discussion into replacing it with a modern web > based forum? I don't know how to manage this migration but it should be a > goal for the future in my opinion. > I personally prefer the mailing lists as I have a much better searchable archive available and can decide by myself whom I give my personal information (in this case Google). Regards, Sven ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Killing the mail list
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020, Ryan Joseph via fpc-pascal wrote: It's 2020 and the mail list is starting to really show its age. I don't get first messages from gmail and my personal web host is whitelisted, messages bounce when I use the wrong account by accident, hard to search the archives, can't post images and code easily (big problem!), messages gets lost or un-threaded when subjects are incorrect, and the list goes on (pun not intended). No offense, but there's no reason to jump to a forum because you're having mail issues. Has there ever been any discussion into replacing it with a modern web based forum? I don't know how to manage this migration but it should be a goal for the future in my opinion. No. No, it shouldn't. Personally I really like the format used in forum.sublimetext.com which is from www.discourse.org. Ugh. No thanks. Use NNTP. I think the fpc lists are mirrored here at news.gmane.io. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_! ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Killing the mail list
On 15/03/2020 14:55, Ryan Joseph via fpc-pascal wrote: > Has there ever been any discussion into replacing it with a modern web based > forum? There are web forums if you prefer them to using a mailing list: https://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/ (see the forums under the "Free Pascal" header). There are no plans to remove the mailing lists. Jonas ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
[fpc-pascal] Killing the mail list
It's 2020 and the mail list is starting to really show its age. I don't get first messages from gmail and my personal web host is whitelisted, messages bounce when I use the wrong account by accident, hard to search the archives, can't post images and code easily (big problem!), messages gets lost or un-threaded when subjects are incorrect, and the list goes on (pun not intended). Has there ever been any discussion into replacing it with a modern web based forum? I don't know how to manage this migration but it should be a goal for the future in my opinion. Personally I really like the format used in forum.sublimetext.com which is from www.discourse.org. Regards, Ryan Joseph ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
