Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui 4.6 for FPC 3.0.4

2017-12-01 Thread Michael Schnell 

On 29.11.2017 09:35, Michael Schnell wrote:


Is there an ifi user-site program (e.g. in Java) to run with the 
Android GUI and connect to a native code application ?


Follow up: is there a user site program (e.g. in Java script) that runs 
in a browser ?


-Michael

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Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui 4.6 for FPC 3.0.4

2017-11-30 Thread Paul Breneman 

On 11/30/2017 04:55 AM, kardan wrote:

I guess its better to go for fpcupdeluxe these days?

On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 01:57:54 +0100
kardan  wrote:


Is it possible to tell fpcgui a folder with an already checked out svn
trunk? I cannot afford to download 1.1 gb again.


use git-svn with existing trunk folder
https://github.com/newpascal/fpcupdeluxe/issues/57


Will fpcupdeluxe work on console, or is a GUI required?

See fpcup usage here:
http://wiki.freepascal.org/Small_Virtual_Machines#Debian_console_virtual_machine

Regards,
Paul
www.ControlPascal.com
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Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui 4.6 for FPC 3.0.4

2017-11-30 Thread kardan 
I guess its better to go for fpcupdeluxe these days?

On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 01:57:54 +0100
kardan  wrote:

> Is it possible to tell fpcgui a folder with an already checked out svn
> trunk? I cannot afford to download 1.1 gb again.

use git-svn with existing trunk folder
https://github.com/newpascal/fpcupdeluxe/issues/57
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Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui 4.6 for FPC 3.0.4

2017-11-29 Thread kardan 
Is it possible to tell fpcgui a folder with an already checked out svn
trunk? I cannot afford to download 1.1 gb again.

> Am Mittwoch, 29. November 2017, 21:43:00 schrieb Marcos Douglas B.
> Santos:
> > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Rainer Stratmann
> > 
> >  wrote:  
> > > Am Mittwoch, 29. November 2017, 07:19:32 schrieb Martin
> > > Schreiber:  
> > >> What is missing
> > >> in Free Pascal?  
> > > 
> > > A userfriendly setup/install for every compile/cross compile
> > > scenario out of the box.
> > > 
> > > Without the need for compiling fpc.
> > > 
> > > Without the need for an internet connection.  
> > 
> > Have you already seen fpcup -> http://wiki.freepascal.org/fpcup ?
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Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui 4.6 for FPC 3.0.4

2017-11-29 Thread Michael Schnell 

On 25.11.2017 17:43, Martin Schreiber wrote:
The architecture of MSEgui would allow to make widgets for Android in 
RAD style development, either ownerdrawn or wrapper for native widgets 
with 'ifi'-data- and event-connections to the business logic in the 
application.

This of course triggers my interest.
Is there an ifi user-site program (e.g. in Java) to run with the Android 
GUI and connect to a native code application ?


-Michael

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Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui 4.6 for FPC 3.0.4

2017-11-29 Thread Rainer Stratmann 
Am Mittwoch, 29. November 2017, 21:43:00 schrieb Marcos Douglas B. Santos:
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Rainer Stratmann
> 
>  wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, 29. November 2017, 07:19:32 schrieb Martin Schreiber:
> >> What is missing
> >> in Free Pascal?
> > 
> > A userfriendly setup/install for every compile/cross compile scenario out
> > of the box.
> > 
> > Without the need for compiling fpc.
> > 
> > Without the need for an internet connection.
> 
> Have you already seen fpcup -> http://wiki.freepascal.org/fpcup ?
> 
yes
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Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui 4.6 for FPC 3.0.4

2017-11-29 Thread Marcos Douglas B. Santos 
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Rainer Stratmann
 wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 29. November 2017, 07:19:32 schrieb Martin Schreiber:
>> What is missing
>> in Free Pascal?
>
> A userfriendly setup/install for every compile/cross compile scenario out of
> the box.
>
> Without the need for compiling fpc.
>
> Without the need for an internet connection.

Have you already seen fpcup -> http://wiki.freepascal.org/fpcup ?

Best,
Marcos Douglas
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Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui 4.6 for FPC 3.0.4

2017-11-29 Thread Marcos Douglas B. Santos 
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys
 wrote:
> On 2017-11-29 06:19, Martin Schreiber wrote:
>>
>> What is missing in
>> Free Pascal?
>
>
> Good question. After all, Delphi used the FPC compiler to develop for iOS
> before they had their own compiler ready. I believe XE2 shipped with a FPC
> compiler. So FPC functionality (the compiler at least) must have enough to
> make it usable.

We have the compiler, now it just missing the widgets...

Best regards,
Marcos Douglas
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Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui 4.6 for FPC 3.0.4

2017-11-29 Thread Rainer Stratmann 
Am Mittwoch, 29. November 2017, 07:19:32 schrieb Martin Schreiber:
> What is missing
> in Free Pascal?

A userfriendly setup/install for every compile/cross compile scenario out of 
the box.

Without the need for compiling fpc.

Without the need for an internet connection.

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Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui 4.6 for FPC 3.0.4

2017-11-29 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys 

On 2017-11-29 06:19, Martin Schreiber wrote:

What is missing in
Free Pascal?


Good question. After all, Delphi used the FPC compiler to develop for 
iOS before they had their own compiler ready. I believe XE2 shipped with 
a FPC compiler. So FPC functionality (the compiler at least) must have 
enough to make it usable.


Regards,
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Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui 4.6 for FPC 3.0.4

2017-11-28 Thread Martin Schreiber 
On Sunday 26 November 2017 15:19:22 Andreas wrote:
> > The architecture of MSEgui would allow to make widgets for Android in RAD
> > style development, either ownerdrawn or wrapper for native widgets
> > with 'ifi'-data- and event-connections to the business logic in the
> > application.
>
> Today much of the maintenance at the client is done using netbooks. We
> wish to use cell phone exclusively. We have a large program base with
> many programs all written in FPC and/or Delphi. The company is migrating
> all FPC to Rad Studio 10.2 so that the same code base can be used when
> we migrate some of these programs to android.

What Delphi technologies do you use on Android? Firemonkey? What is missing in 
Free Pascal? Can you be more specific?
I doubt that the codebase of a desktop application can be used unchanged on a 
cellphone.

Martin
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Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui 4.6 for FPC 3.0.4

2017-11-28 Thread Andreas 



On 25/11/2017 14:43, Martin Schreiber wrote:

On Saturday 25 November 2017 15:04:05 Andreas Berger wrote:

On the Android side I actually only need a graphical app with access to
the Bluetooth and possibly be a TCP client.


And why Free Pascal to develop the android application? What would be the
advantages instead to use the tools of the platform?

The architecture of MSEgui would allow to make widgets for Android in RAD
style development, either ownerdrawn or wrapper for native widgets
with 'ifi'-data- and event-connections to the business logic in the
application.

Today much of the maintenance at the client is done using netbooks. We 
wish to use cell phone exclusively. We have a large program base with 
many programs all written in FPC and/or Delphi. The company is migrating 
all FPC to Rad Studio 10.2 so that the same code base can be used when 
we migrate some of these programs to android. I would rather migrate our 
last delphi programs to FPC.

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Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui 4.6 for FPC 3.0.4

2017-11-28 Thread Andreas Berger 



On 25/11/2017 14:43, Martin Schreiber wrote:

On Saturday 25 November 2017 15:04:05 Andreas Berger wrote:

On the Android side I actually only need a graphical app with access to
the Bluetooth and possibly be a TCP client.


And why Free Pascal to develop the android application? What would be the
advantages instead to use the tools of the platform?

The architecture of MSEgui would allow to make widgets for Android in RAD
style development, either ownerdrawn or wrapper for native widgets
with 'ifi'-data- and event-connections to the business logic in the
application.

Today much of the maintenance at the client is done using netbooks. We 
wish to use cell phone exclusively. We have a large program base with 
many programs all written in FPC and/or Delphi. The company is migrating 
all FPC to Rad Studio 10.2 so that the same code base can be used when 
we migrate some of these programs to android. I would rather migrate our 
last delphi programs to FPC.

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Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui 4.6 for FPC 3.0.4

2017-11-25 Thread Marcos Douglas B. Santos 
Em 25 de nov de 2017 2:43 PM, "Martin Schreiber" 
escreveu:


And why Free Pascal to develop the android application?


For the same reasons that we use Object Pascal instead of C# , Java,
whatever.

Best,
Marcos Douglas
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Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui 4.6 for FPC 3.0.4

2017-11-25 Thread Ralf Quint 
On 11/25/2017 8:43 AM, Martin Schreiber wrote:
> On Saturday 25 November 2017 15:04:05 Andreas Berger wrote:
>> On the Android side I actually only need a graphical app with access to
>> the Bluetooth and possibly be a TCP client.
>>
> And why Free Pascal to develop the android application? What would be the 
> advantages instead to use the tools of the platform?
In a lot of cases, at least for non-trivial applications, you might need
to share a larger code base with desktop applications running on 
Windows, Linux or macOS...

Ralf

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Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui 4.6 for FPC 3.0.4

2017-11-25 Thread Martin Schreiber 
On Saturday 25 November 2017 15:04:05 Andreas Berger wrote:
> On the Android side I actually only need a graphical app with access to
> the Bluetooth and possibly be a TCP client.
>
And why Free Pascal to develop the android application? What would be the 
advantages instead to use the tools of the platform?

The architecture of MSEgui would allow to make widgets for Android in RAD 
style development, either ownerdrawn or wrapper for native widgets 
with 'ifi'-data- and event-connections to the business logic in the 
application.

Martin
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Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui 4.6 for FPC 3.0.4

2017-11-25 Thread Andreas Berger 
On the Android side I actually only need a graphical app with access to 
the Bluetooth and possibly be a TCP client.



On 25/11/2017 10:28, Martin Schreiber wrote:

On Saturday 25 November 2017 11:52:39 Andreas Berger wrote:

I went back to Delphi because our company is converting all programs
that the maintenance uses to work on cell phones. Rad Studio 10.2 was
bought and even our desktop programs are being converted form
FPS/Delphi7 to Delphi 10. If FPC for Android worked off the shelf I
probably could convince the company to go back to FPC since all our
current projects work with it.

Can you elaborate a bit what you actually need? Do you need a Firemonkey
equivalent? Something other?

Martin
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Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui 4.6 for FPC 3.0.4

2017-11-25 Thread Martin Schreiber 
On Saturday 25 November 2017 11:52:39 Andreas Berger wrote:
> I went back to Delphi because our company is converting all programs
> that the maintenance uses to work on cell phones. Rad Studio 10.2 was
> bought and even our desktop programs are being converted form
> FPS/Delphi7 to Delphi 10. If FPC for Android worked off the shelf I
> probably could convince the company to go back to FPC since all our
> current projects work with it.

Can you elaborate a bit what you actually need? Do you need a Firemonkey 
equivalent? Something other?

Martin
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Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui 4.6 for FPC 3.0.4

2017-11-25 Thread Andreas Berger 
I went back to Delphi because our company is converting all programs 
that the maintenance uses to work on cell phones. Rad Studio 10.2 was 
bought and even our desktop programs are being converted form 
FPS/Delphi7 to Delphi 10. If FPC for Android worked off the shelf I 
probably could convince the company to go back to FPC since all our 
current projects work with it. I Never used MGE but have been keeping an 
eye on it and know what you do is very stable.



On 25/11/2017 04:25, Martin Schreiber wrote:

On Friday 24 November 2017 18:38:39 Andreas wrote:

Hi Martin, do you have any plans to cross compile to android?


Maybe if there is enough interrest or a sponsor. What do you need?

Martin
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Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui 4.6 for FPC 3.0.4

2017-11-24 Thread Martin Schreiber 
On Friday 24 November 2017 18:38:39 Andreas wrote:
> Hi Martin, do you have any plans to cross compile to android?
>
Maybe if there is enough interrest or a sponsor. What do you need?

Martin
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Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui 4.6 for FPC 3.0.4

2017-11-24 Thread Andreas 

Hi Martin, do you have any plans to cross compile to android?


On 24/11/2017 06:08, Martin Schreiber wrote:

Hi,

MSEide+MSEgui version 4.6 has been released:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/files/mseide-msegui/4.6/

There are also new versions of MSEgit, MSErun, MSEspice and MSEkicadBOM:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseuniverse

the cross environment for Raspberry Pi:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/files/fpcrossarm/

and FPC for Raspberry Pi:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/files/fpcarm/

Martin
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[fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui 4.6 for FPC 3.0.4

2017-11-24 Thread Martin Schreiber 
Hi,

MSEide+MSEgui version 4.6 has been released:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/files/mseide-msegui/4.6/

There are also new versions of MSEgit, MSErun, MSEspice and MSEkicadBOM:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseuniverse

the cross environment for Raspberry Pi:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/files/fpcrossarm/

and FPC for Raspberry Pi:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/files/fpcarm/

Martin
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