Re: [fpc-pascal] Screwed FPC installation in Xubuntu

[Mark Morgan Lloyd]

Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:

On 2015-10-01 12:53, Bo Berglund wrote:

I need to do an install of Lazarus + FPC on RaspberryPi2 with Raspbian
Jessie.


It's been a while since I installed FPC on my RPi, but yes, I would
follow the same guidelines as I mentioned for Desktop installs.


On PCs, Jessie doesn't appear to have too many surprises in it compared 
with earlier versions. I'm much too busy to have tried it on an RPi yet.


The major "gotcha" is that you can't (by default) SSH into it as root, 
which causes problems if you need to run a GUI (i.e. not just console 
I/O) program as root with the X11 stuff passing over the SSH connection.


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Re: [fpc-pascal] Screwed FPC installation in Xubuntu

[Bo Berglund]

On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:10:23 +0100, Graeme Geldenhuys
 wrote:

>On 2015-09-29 at 01:52, Juha Manninen wrote:
>> I was able to get my Xubuntu 15.10 into a state where FPC doesn't
>> work even if I remove and install again from repo.
>
>Like I told many before, stop using package managers to install FPC -
>use the official FPC download and installer instead. I've used it for
>the last 5 years and it always works everywhere, and you don't need
>root access. I never had a single problem.
>

Seems related:
I need to do an install of Lazarus + FPC on RaspberryPi2 with Raspbian
Jessie.
Is the recommended method to do as you describe above also there?
Or is Lazarus itself going to correctly install FPC too?
(Will ask about Lazarus install on the Lazarus list)


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Re: [fpc-pascal] Screwed FPC installation in Xubuntu

[Graeme Geldenhuys]

On 2015-10-01 12:53, Bo Berglund wrote:
> I need to do an install of Lazarus + FPC on RaspberryPi2 with Raspbian
> Jessie.

It's been a while since I installed FPC on my RPi, but yes, I would
follow the same guidelines as I mentioned for Desktop installs.

Regards,
  - Graeme -

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Re: [fpc-pascal] Screwed FPC installation in Xubuntu

[Marco van de Voort]

In our previous episode, Juha Manninen said:
> if I remove and install again from repo.
> I tried installing FPC 3RC1 but then removed all traces of it.
> At one point there were links to /etc/alternative created by the
> Ubuntu package system. After removing everything and then installing FPC 3
> using the sh script, there is no fpc.cfg generated. Why not?

Did you install as root ?  The sh script iirc only installs fpc.cfg in
global dirs as root and otherwise locally as ~/.fpc.cfg
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Re: [fpc-pascal] Screwed FPC installation in Xubuntu

[Graeme Geldenhuys]

Hello Juha,

On 2015-09-29 at 01:52, Juha Manninen wrote:
> I was able to get my Xubuntu 15.10 into a state where FPC doesn't
> work even if I remove and install again from repo.

Like I told many before, stop using package managers to install FPC -
use the official FPC download and installer instead. I've used it for
the last 5 years and it always works everywhere, and you don't need
root access. I never had a single problem.


Regards,
  - Graeme -

fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal
http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/

My public PGP key:  http://tinyurl.com/graeme-pgp

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Re: [fpc-pascal] Screwed FPC installation in Xubuntu

[Juha Manninen]

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Marco van de Voort  wrote:
> Did you install as root ?  The sh script iirc only installs fpc.cfg in
> global dirs as root and otherwise locally as ~/.fpc.cfg

Oops, I found the error. I had installed the 32-bit version of FPC 3RC1.
 "Free Pascal Compiler version 3.0.0rc1 [2015/08/20] for i386"
I should not tweak my OS when I am tired.

Interestingly the compiler ran although it didn't work well without
fpc.cfg, but "fpcmkcfg" did not run at all.
Bash told the file or directory does not exist while it certainly was
there. Even "which fpcmkcfg" showed its location.
Anyway, on a 64-bit Linux you cannot run all 32-bit programs like you
can on Windows.
Now I have installed the 64-bit version. I can see /etc/fpc.cfg and
everything works again. Happy end!

The Ubuntu package manager behavior remains a mystery. I thought the
system is clean of FPC packages but reinstalling them still created
broken links to /etc/alternative.
In this matter I must agree with Graeme, the package manager tried to
be too smart.

Otherwise Xubuntu is rock-solid. I used Manjaro for a while. It is
also very good and the package system is better than in Ubuntu.
However it is a rolling on-the-edge distro and I got problems, partly
because I experimented too much.
Also the KDE 5 Plasma was not stable enough yet.
I will return to Manjaro later but now I want to do something else
than tweak my OS.

Juha
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[fpc-pascal] Screwed FPC installation in Xubuntu

[Juha Manninen]

I was able to get my Xubuntu 15.10 into a state where FPC doesn't work even
if I remove and install again from repo.
I tried installing FPC 3RC1 but then removed all traces of it.
At one point there were links to /etc/alternative created by the
Ubuntu package system. After removing everything and then installing FPC 3
using the sh script, there is no fpc.cfg generated. Why not?

Strangely I have earlier managed to install FPC 3RC1 without problems in
other systems. This is embarrassing. I was planning to use Xubuntu for
a while now.

Juha
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