Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages? and SetPrint Qs

[Peter Gold]

Thanks for the chuckle, Wendy. Since you're talking about lawyers here,
perhaps cite an episode of "The Good Wife," in which Nathan Lane's
character advises the all-hands-on-deck team that's buried in zillions of
pages of discovery documents, that the key information they'll need to win
the giant case, is probably buried in the footnotes. What volunteer
attorney-author would want his/her contribution and credit buried pages
distant from the source in main text?

This could be their chance to show that it's possible to serve justice and
good documentation layout at the same time. :)



On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 7:38 AM Wendy McGovern  wrote:

> I appreciate the feedback for my questions, especially the positive notes
> from Reng Winfried and Lin Sims about Frame 2020. (It helps to hear that
> somebody actually does have some good experience with the software.) I
> would like to try the free trial of the new version but don't know if our
> IT department has a nonproduction computer that I could put it on that
> wouldn't screw anything up with our current Frame.
>
> Thanks to those who have replied. I did have a good laugh at Peter Gold's
> note:  "When I've had to wrestle with this issue, if there was time, and
> willingness to cooperate, I'd try to work with the author to re-write or
> re-order the material." We're dealing with lawyers here-we can barely get
> them to submit materials in the first place, let alone revise (most of them
> are volunteer authors, so there is no incentive other than getting their
> name in the book and having contributed to the book as an expert on the
> topic).
>
> I actually had thought of SetPrint-does anyone know how to get a copy of
> it? We have just two people now, so that's all we would need. We're on
> Windows 10, Frame 7.0, using Acrobat X Pro. Does it have to be installed by
> an Admin or is it simply something we could put in the Frame software
> folder ourselves?
>
> Wendy McGovern
>
>
> [Pennsylvania Bar Institute]
>
>
> Wendy McGovern
> Publications Editor
> Pennsylvania Bar Institute
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Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages? and SetPrint Qs

[Fred Ridder]

https://sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm


From: Framers  on 
behalf of Wendy McGovern 
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:38 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Subject: Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across 
pages? and SetPrint Qs

I appreciate the feedback for my questions, especially the positive notes from 
Reng Winfried and Lin Sims about Frame 2020. (It helps to hear that somebody 
actually does have some good experience with the software.) I would like to try 
the free trial of the new version but don't know if our IT department has a 
nonproduction computer that I could put it on that wouldn't screw anything up 
with our current Frame.

Thanks to those who have replied. I did have a good laugh at Peter Gold's note: 
 "When I've had to wrestle with this issue, if there was time, and willingness 
to cooperate, I'd try to work with the author to re-write or re-order the 
material." We're dealing with lawyers here-we can barely get them to submit 
materials in the first place, let alone revise (most of them are volunteer 
authors, so there is no incentive other than getting their name in the book and 
having contributed to the book as an expert on the topic).

I actually had thought of SetPrint-does anyone know how to get a copy of it? We 
have just two people now, so that's all we would need. We're on Windows 10, 
Frame 7.0, using Acrobat X Pro. Does it have to be installed by an Admin or is 
it simply something we could put in the Frame software folder ourselves?

Wendy McGovern


[Pennsylvania Bar 
Institute]


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Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages? and SetPrint Qs

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Wendy,

Yes. Thank you for your comments!
When you can create a virtual box on your PC, you can install a test version of 
FrameMaker 2020 there.

SetPrint is a little freeware utiliy. Just download the dll and copy it into 
the specified folder.
Create a small text file SetPrint.ini (as described on the SetPrint website) 
and put it into  the same folder as the dll.
Then close and restart FrameMaker.
That's it.
https://sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Wendy McGovern
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 2:39 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across 
pages? and SetPrint Qs

I appreciate the feedback for my questions, especially the positive notes from 
Reng Winfried and Lin Sims about Frame 2020. (It helps to hear that somebody 
actually does have some good experience with the software.) I would like to try 
the free trial of the new version but don't know if our IT department has a 
nonproduction computer that I could put it on that wouldn't screw anything up 
with our current Frame.

Thanks to those who have replied. I did have a good laugh at Peter Gold's note: 
 "When I've had to wrestle with this issue, if there was time, and willingness 
to cooperate, I'd try to work with the author to re-write or re-order the 
material." We're dealing with lawyers here-we can barely get them to submit 
materials in the first place, let alone revise (most of them are volunteer 
authors, so there is no incentive other than getting their name in the book and 
having contributed to the book as an expert on the topic).

I actually had thought of SetPrint-does anyone know how to get a copy of it? We 
have just two people now, so that's all we would need. We're on Windows 10, 
Frame 7.0, using Acrobat X Pro. Does it have to be installed by an Admin or is 
it simply something we could put in the Frame software folder ourselves?

Wendy McGovern


[Pennsylvania Bar Institute]


Wendy McGovern
Publications Editor
Pennsylvania Bar Institute
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Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages? and SetPrint Qs

[Wendy McGovern]

I appreciate the feedback for my questions, especially the positive notes from 
Reng Winfried and Lin Sims about Frame 2020. (It helps to hear that somebody 
actually does have some good experience with the software.) I would like to try 
the free trial of the new version but don't know if our IT department has a 
nonproduction computer that I could put it on that wouldn't screw anything up 
with our current Frame.

Thanks to those who have replied. I did have a good laugh at Peter Gold's note: 
 "When I've had to wrestle with this issue, if there was time, and willingness 
to cooperate, I'd try to work with the author to re-write or re-order the 
material." We're dealing with lawyers here-we can barely get them to submit 
materials in the first place, let alone revise (most of them are volunteer 
authors, so there is no incentive other than getting their name in the book and 
having contributed to the book as an expert on the topic).

I actually had thought of SetPrint-does anyone know how to get a copy of it? We 
have just two people now, so that's all we would need. We're on Windows 10, 
Frame 7.0, using Acrobat X Pro. Does it have to be installed by an Admin or is 
it simply something we could put in the Frame software folder ourselves?

Wendy McGovern


[Pennsylvania Bar Institute]


Wendy McGovern
Publications Editor
Pennsylvania Bar Institute
www.pbi.org



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