from:"Orly Zimmerman"

Re: [Framers] Framers Digest, Vol 206, Issue 7

2023-06-25 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Janet, 
Your message indicates that the master pages are missing.  Maybe you missed 
importing them to some of the files in the book? 
You could solve that simply by importing the Master pages (from your template 
file or any other file that does have all the "correct" master pages) to all 
files in your book. 
Also, you'd probably should import the MasterPages table that's located on the 
Reference page to the other chapters as well. 

Also, assuming you've set the trigger (as explained by Charles/Art) with a para 
tag (he suggested creating a special "Anchor_Landscape" tag), sometimes I 
noticed the update to apply the Master pages doesn’t work if there is no page 
break after the landscape page. Try to clear off whatever you don't really need 
on the landscape page (basically, any other triggers on the page,  I use a 
"PageBreak" para tag (font of 2pts, SpaceBelow of ~800-1000 pts, a bunch of 
spaces in the "Numbering" tab so you can "see it" on your body pages).

A normal Anchor Tag, if it's not used in the MasterPages table located in the 
Reference pages,  wouldn't normally be a trigger, so shouldn't affect things, I 
think.
 
HTH, 
Orly Zimmerman

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   1.  Landscape Page/Table Style Question (Goodwin, Janet (FAA))


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I've done that very thing but I'm getting an error message:

No master pages applied because one or more master pages do not exist.

If anyone has links to helpful troubleshooting guides for this type of thing, 
I'd be thankful.



Janet Goodwin
AJM-254, SSDP
Technical Editor/Writer
Cell:  609.670.3396



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Re: [Framers] Variable Preferences - custome colurs available?

2023-02-02 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Klaus,
Thanks for the update about the colors. I didn’t realize defining custom colors 
would not work with this new feature.
The feature, as Sue said is very difficult to work with when only FM internal 
colors are available.
I hope they fix this…

Just another tip for Visible Variables ….
Add a backslash underscore ( \_ )  to the beginning of the variable defs (also, 
idea was Shlomo’s).
(You’d have to do it for each variable (via the MIF file could speed things 
up).)
It then shows the first letter of the variable with an underline, but only in 
FM (i.e. on your screen). The underline doesn’t print to PDF or on paper (not 
sure what happens when converting to HTML though).
HTH,
Orly



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Re: [Framers] Framers Digest, Vol 201, Issue 7 - Custom Colors

2023-02-01 Thread Orly Zimmerman

Hi All,
Regarding how to get custom colors. 
I've been doing this for ages for my conditional texts. I'm always looking for 
more screen-friendly colors. 
I assume you need to create or import colors that you don't already have into 
your file.

To create new colors: 
Go to View>Color>Definitions  (this Menu item should be the same regardless of 
what FM version you're using).
Play with the box to see what it does, but it's here that you define new colors.
1. Define a new color name (say, Product A)
2. Define its color using: 
-  RGB, CMYK, or HLS numbers
   or 
- pick one from an existing Color Library (see button on right of Color 
window) 
3. The color should now be available in from the 
para(CNTL-m)/font(CNTL-d)/table dialog(CNTL-t). etc. boxes - Color option. 
Note re Tables: Shading uses these colors. For Table lines - you need to define 
table rules in a different place. 

These options allow you to do things like rename the red color to, say, 
*Internal* (i.e. create a new color), and other cool things... 
Red, of course remains a red color, just now you'll be able to change the 
*Internal* color to another color if such a need should arise.
=
Another cool FM thing - FM colors can be defined to belong to something like a 
set of colors called a *Color View*. 
You can use color views to hide things (usually a graphic item), such as a 
watermark, just by changing the Color View.
I learnt this from Shlomo Peretz, and expanded upon it for my own purposes to 
hide (conditionalize) a table column (before Adobe introduced the feature - 
until a few versions ago you could only conditionalize rows.)
There must be other cool things to do with this...

To view existing colors: 
1. Go to View>Color>Views
   This opens a Color View window with options for up to 6 different Color 
Views. 
   The 3 sub windows are used to define the colors as Normal, Cutout, or, 
Invisible.  I don't use Cutout - just Normal (where the color shows) or 
Invisible - where the color is hidden in the file. (Mind you, if you use a word 
with that color, then the word is invisible, but the space it takes up remains 
as is.). 
 2. Click on a color name to move it between the windows. 
Hint:  Hitting Shift from your keyboard along with one of the small arrows 
(right/left) of the Color View window, will cause all the colors to move 
between the windows. 
3. Click Set. 
This window is used to set which Color View you use for your current document. 
This definition can be imported via Color Defs (from Import Formats option). 
It's useful when creating a template file with all the defs you need for say 
online outp0ut vs PDF outputs, etc.


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Today's Topics:

   1.  Variable Preferences - custome colurs available?
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   3. Re:  Variable Preferences - custome colurs available?
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Subject: [Framers] Variable Preferences - custome colurs available?

Hi folks

I am using the new feature for highlighting variables but I would like to 
define custom colours because the options provided obscure the content of the 
variable. Does anyone know of a way to add custom colours (or reduce the 
opacity) to the list?

Sue

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Re: [Framers] Framers Digest, Vol 201, Issue 2

2023-01-15 Thread Orly Zimmerman

!!Ditto me!! Re Theresa’s post.

I was also wondering why it got so quiet…

I really appreciate having the list and thank all of you retired/semi-retired 
folks for continuing to help us out…



…

>> 5. Re:  Have not seen any emails in this list since ...

>>  (Theresa de Valence)

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Well, my name is not a regular one, but I've been reading this list for many, 
many years and I'm very fond of so many of you!

Happy New Year.

Regards,

Theresa

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Re: [Framers] Framers Digest, Vol 195, Issue 3 - Save to PDF - Minutes turned into hours (cuc tu)

2022-06-14 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI C2, 
Did you try a MIF wash? 
This means saving all the files, as well as the book file, as MIF, and then 
resaving as FM. 
This and perhaps restarting your computer usually helps in these situations.

The simple way to do the MIF wash to a book is to install the BookMIFwash 
driver (BookComponentMIFWash.dll found in the ) that comes with your FM 
installation - search for it in one of the FM subfolders - there is a text 
readme file (fm_bookmifwash.c) that tells you how to install it such that it 
shows up on your FM menu line.
This, in the past, has saved me many times. 
(Oddly enough, it's under SAMPLES>SCRIPTS and UTILITIES in my installation.)

I currently run the latest FM - so now I do a Publish>PDF which is usually 
fine. Haven't had to do a MIF wash in a while, thank goodness.
Much Luck, 
OrlyZ

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From: cuc tu 
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Subject: [Framers] Save to PDF - Minutes turned into hours
Hi All,
One-by-one, we're all experiencing a problem saving as PDF. We're still using 
FM12. It does not matter if we're working on the network or local HDD.
We know the IT group changed virus protection from Sophos to Windows Security 
and we've disabled everything we can. I'm not sure if that is related or if 
there could have been a Windows update that has affected this version of FM. 
We've tried uninstalling and reinstalling.
Any suggestions?
Thanks, C2


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Re: [Framers] Framers Digest, Vol 194, Issue 4

2022-05-10 Thread Orly Zimmerman

Hi there, 
Did you make sure that the name "Color08" is named exactly the same throughout 
all your files? FM is case-sensitive, so "color08" is not the same as "Color08"
You probably don't want to go thru them 1x1. 
Use a script to remove all unused formats (color names) and then import the 
right color def from your designated template file.
HTH, 
Orly

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Howdy Frame Users.

Another softball for you.

Many years ago we had a writer who experimented with random FrameMaker knobs. 
He fancied colors one day and now we have this gremlin when updating books that 
Color08 definition does not match the rest of the book.

I have all of our thousands of Frame files in one network folder. How can I 
purge this issue from my life? I cannot even figure out how to address this one 
file in a book. Where is this definition hiding? Why if I import color defs to 
my entire book from my template file, removing all overrides, does this issue 
persist?

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[Framers] FM2HTML5 Split Topic by Heading Para Style not working

2022-03-21 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,
I'm trying to create HTML5 directly from an FM file or book.
To start with, I would like to split the topics based on my 2 Headings.
These are numbered headings "across all columns and side heads". The page 
layout includes side heads. I instruct the HTML5 output to discard the 
numbering for all the Headings - that works. The split into Topics by Para 
Style is not working.
I get one long page with all info in the same HTML page.
Any ideas what could be preventing the split by heading from happening?
I'm using FM2020 v16.0.4.1062
Windows 10 Pro

Many Thanks,
Orly
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker to Robohelp Integration

2022-03-13 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Robert, 
This is also what I've found - linking FM source files to generate the online 
help.
My team started me off using FM because they wanted PDF deliverables - silicon 
documentation are hefty books and FM keeps them all wrapped up very nicely and 
very stable - publishes fine PDFs that can be jointly reviewed easily, so all 
that is good, and very important for us.
On the other hand, now marketing is thinking about moving to online help.
Since I have the Tech Suite, I have RH included within my tools. 
Do you think Webworks would justify its expense, or what advantage would it 
have, if any over RH 2020? 
To be fair, I understand that Adobe revamped RH from scratch, so I'm hoping it 
can do a fine job (haven't tested it yet, but on the other hand, I haven't used 
any online tools yet either).
Just checking to see what added advantages you, or if anyone else would like to 
chime in)  think Webworks has. 
Thanks,
Orly Zimmerman
Xsight Labs 

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Re: [Framers] Framers Digest, Vol 187, Issue 7-. Re: Why so many of us feel the way we do about Adobe

2021-10-17 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All, 
I've been monitoring this conversation and just wanted to chime in... 

I don't mean to disregard your complaints at all - but, I personally haven't 
had any serious problems with FM. 
I had a very annoying FM-to-PDF problem a few months ago.  The Adobe engineers 
reached out to me  and helped me solve it. 

I only recently returned to using FM about 2 years ago after about a 4-yr 
hiatus. My company bought it based on the engineers requests - before I even 
got there. 
 Prior to those 4 years, my company dealt with all installation problems and 
they obviously footed all upgrade bills. 

Now that I'm at a startup I had thought about using LaTeX for a bit - since 
it's free and the engineers like that as well as Markdown. LaTeX would be a 
learning curve. That is, I would need to learn how to create a book from a 
number of files, use X-refs, variables and conditions the way we use in FM, if 
they exist at all. 

While I don't think it's worth my time, it might be worth my time if we needed 
online help - because those same LaTeX files would be able to be used as the 
files for the basis of a static site generator for online help.

For now - our customers are used to getting PDFs and are happy with the output. 
So I'm happy with FM - it's still the simplest, yet most robust and stable 
option I have for creating books. 

Regards, 
Orly 
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Why so many of us feel the way we do about
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Well ... I don't bash FrameMaker because of its capabilities, but I do bash 
them for the upgrade pricing changes over the years.

For me to see the benefits of stability that Reng Winfried says is now 
available (since FM 7), would require paying for a full FM license - eek!

Of course, I do not like subscription models ... this last evolution guarantees 
that I will not update from FM 12. When that stops working for whatever reason, 
*good*! I am not using it much anymore anyway ...



To answer your other question, yes, I have an alternative ... works "for my 
purposes". I emphasize "for my purposes" since it is not for everybody, of 
course!

My current flow is LaTeX using the TeXStudio editor. 

Not WYSISYG, but ... one click gets me PDF output in a window on the side. 
*And*, I can click on the PDF, and TeXstudio opens the *specific* file with the 
LaTeX source, and puts my cursor right where I need it!

Consistent output? Yes. Many people have provided all the necessary add-ons for 
just about any standardized technical format that you might ever want.

Large books? Yes. No issues with multiple-hundred-page documents for me. I keep 
my chapters and re-usable text paragraphs in separate source files, so they can 
be re-used in other "books" too.

Variables? Of course! Defined at the top level or wherever, and these can be 
over-ridden in a given source file for local use. 

Equations? Beautiful! but you do have to spend a tiny amount of time learning 
how. After that curve (it is not tough), LaTeX and TeX have better equation 
output than *any* other tool I have ever seen ... for technical documents, this 
is perfect!

Tables? Yes. But you do have to get used to doing them without WYSIWYG ... the 
rapid PDF generation is what makes it work for me!

Help files? I do not know. I have not tried creating these from LaTeX at all 
(since I don't need them), but I would be surprised if this is difficult to 
make happen!

And, best of all, the price is right: my current flow is FREE ... ?

Z

P.S. My latest infuriating issue is Acrobat Pro. Which seems to want to check 
its license status with Adobe far too often, does not "get through" to whatever 
system it is trying to reach, and stops working till I restart my computer or 
reboot my router or stop using it for a while! 

This is helping me move to FlexiPDF faster ... frankly, the next time that 
Acrobat Pro stops, it will no longer be the default tool selected in Windows 
for PDF files.

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Re: [Framers] Framers Digest, Vol 183, Issue 9 - FM font problem in PDF

2021-06-16 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Paul, 
The Assistant font normally doesn't create any problems. 
Only when I need the images with the transparencies, then the text is erratic. 
I replace the text with an Adobe font (Adobe Clean) - assuming Adobe should 
have no problem with itself. 
This solution did not help - text is still off. 
Any other ideas will be appreciated. 
Thanks,
Orly 

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- JobOptions Issue (STS)
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Is the Assistant font non-standard in some way?

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Subject: [Framers] FM to PDF Text or Graphics Transparency Problem -
JobOptions Issue (STS)
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HI All,
I'm running FM2020 on a Windows 10 system.
My 4-page file (a brochure) includes some text (Fonts: kelson/assistant/etc) 
and graphics with transparencies.
Due to this latest FM version, I can finally, easily create a matching PDF with 
lovely graphics.  (Background: In previous FM versions the transparencies were 
blacked or whited out. I could run do some fancy programming on the reference 
pages to fix, but this solution didn't work when I had too many graphics on the 
same page - it was complicated).

Now my problem is that I can either get all the graphics right or all the text 
right, but apparently, not both.
I use the "Publish" to PDF option.

  *   When I use the Standard job option (or variation thereof) - the text 
comes out fine, but the transparencies for the figures is shot.
  *   When I use the High Quality Print job option - the figures come out fine, 
but the text (some of the bulleted lines with "Assistant" text come out 
squished or even misplaced - it's very weird.
How do I combine both of these into a single job option?

Notes:

  *   The Distiller PDF settings don't seem to know that the Assistant font is 
installed. But they are located in my Windows>Fonts folder
  *   I have the FM>Print Setup>Properties: "Rely on System Fonts Only... " 
checkbox UNCHECKED
Thanks,
Orly



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[Framers] FM to PDF Text or Graphics Transparency Problem - JobOptions Issue (STS)

2021-06-14 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,
I'm running FM2020 on a Windows 10 system.
My 4-page file (a brochure) includes some text (Fonts: kelson/assistant/etc) 
and graphics with transparencies.
Due to this latest FM version, I can finally, easily create a matching PDF with 
lovely graphics.  (Background: In previous FM versions the transparencies were 
blacked or whited out. I could run do some fancy programming on the reference 
pages to fix, but this solution didn't work when I had too many graphics on the 
same page - it was complicated).

Now my problem is that I can either get all the graphics right or all the text 
right, but apparently, not both.
I use the "Publish" to PDF option.

  *   When I use the Standard job option (or variation thereof) - the text 
comes out fine, but the transparencies for the figures is shot.
  *   When I use the High Quality Print job option - the figures come out fine, 
but the text (some of the bulleted lines with "Assistant" text come out 
squished or even misplaced - it's very weird.
How do I combine both of these into a single job option?

Notes:

  *   The Distiller PDF settings don't seem to know that the Assistant font is 
installed. But they are located in my Windows>Fonts folder
  *   I have the FM>Print Setup>Properties: "Rely on System Fonts Only... " 
checkbox UNCHECKED
Thanks,
Orly

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[Framers] Save as PDF - Do not rely on System Fonts

2021-04-11 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,
Allison's recent question - about the old SetPrint reminded me of a problem I 
currently have. I'm running FM2020 (from the Adobe Technical Suite) on a new HP 
EliteBook 84 G6 (Intel core i5-8265U @1.6GHz<mailto:i5@1.6GHz>) with 8GB of 
installed RAM. No problems with processing times or open pod issues. FM works 
fine, thank goodness.

My problem:
I use Kelson family fonts for my cover/back pages. These fonts, for some 
reason, don't embed in the file.
When I quickly want to create a PDF, I'll use the "Save as PDF" File option.
Invariably, the PDF conversion process (via Distiller) gets flushed.
To solve the problem, I need to uncheck an option "Do not rely on system fonts" 
which can be found only in the Adobe Print settings.
And I need to reset this each time I restart FM.
Any ideas on how to avoid this slightly annoying problem.

Many thanks! And have a great week,
Orly




>>Hi Alison,

>>

>>FrameMaker creates PDF files via Save As PDF with its own engine.

>>The printer is not involved. This works very well.

>>

>>There can be requirements that you create the PDF via Distiller, but this is 
>>also automated. You can still use Save As PDF.

>>

>>You do not need to print to a PostScript file.

>>SetPrint cannot be installed (FM 2020 is 64 bit) and is not needed.

>>There isn't any headless Distiller in FM 2020.

>>

>>Best regards

>>

>>Winfried




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[Framers] Rendering embedded Visio with shading/pattern fill from FM to PDF problem

2020-12-27 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All, I'm currently running FM16 - 2020 via the Adobe Technical Suite.I have 
a number of Visio's embedded in my chapters. I've noticed that if some of the 
Visio items use shading or pattern fills, this does not translate well to PDF. 
(I get black or white boxes completely obliterating parts of the image).Maybe 
I'm using the wrong PDF setting to get these to show properly ?Or is it that I 
just can't use Visio OLE objects with shading/pattern fill via FM? 

Also, the OLE image, viewed in the FM itself is a little off, but the PDF is 
completely illegible.Any ideas? 

Thanks and Happy Holidays to all!Orly

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Re: [Framers] Open Excel from FM - Framers Digest, Vol 171, Issue 7

2020-06-18 Thread Orly Zimmerman

 
This email is in response to David's response to my query - the digest lost his 
formatted message apparently, also omitting his details. 
===

HI David, 
It's not onerous at all to manually attach the XLSX file to the PDF after 
generating. That's exactly what I do. But, that implies that the user 
 a. knows there is an Excel file attached to the PDF.
 b. knows where to find the attachment to open it. 
They may not be aware that there is an attachment pane that can be opened. 

I would like to have a spot on the page where the reader can click and open the 
Excel file directly from the page. Alternatively, as you suggested, I could 
embed the sheet as an OLE object (as I do with my Visio figures), but it's 
really too large for my page (it's an ASIC pinlist with different colors for 
the different balls - sort of like a map). 

Mind you, I can also, deliver the PDF and Excel sheet separately, and as long 
as the user has both files in the same folder, then I can have the reader click 
a PDF link (directly from anywhere on a page) and the Excel file will open in 
Excel - all this is controlled with a simple hypertext message marker and works 
well, however, I can't control delivery to customers that way. It might be ok 
for my internal readers. 

Maybe there are other solutions out there yet? 
Thanks, 
Orly 
=
Orly originally wrote: 
---
HI All,
I would like to open an Excel file from a PDF created by FM.
I'm trying to use a HotSpot graphic box - where I populated the URL destination 
as: //filename.xlsx

So, when I get my PDF, it asks me if it's ok to open the file and I "allow" it.
But the file doesn't open. The file is in the same folder as the PDF file.

Any ideas how I can do this?
I don't care if it's not via the hotspot properties, but I would like the Excel 
file linked somehow to the PDF.
If I could embed the Excel file within the FM file - that would be best - 
assuming it would allow opening the Excel via the generated PDF.

Thanks,
Orly

David's response: 

Is it too onerous to manually attach the XLSX file to the PDF after generating? 
I'd have to play around and research whether a link can be made in Pro to an 
attachment. That too would be manual, presumably. Another thought: embed the 
XLSX in a frame as an object? Weird need! Good luck, DavidDCA:d.a.d

  
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[Framers] Open Excel from FM

2020-06-16 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All, 
I would like to open an Excel file from a PDF created by FM. 
I'm trying to use a HotSpot graphic box - where I populated the URL destination 
as: //filename.xlsx

So, when I get my PDF, it asks me if it's ok to open the file and I "allow" it. 
But the file doesn't open. The file is in the same folder as the PDF file. 

Any ideas how I can do this? 
I don't care if it's not via the hotspot properties, but I would like the Excel 
file linked somehow to the PDF. 
If I could embed the Excel file within the FM file - that would be best - 
assuming it would allow opening the Excel via the generated PDF.

Thanks,
Orly
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[Framers] Problem with Creating Tables with different TableTitles in FM via MIF file.

2020-05-03 Thread Orly Zimmerman

 HI Rick,
Yes, that is the code used, or some variation of it. It works if the file is 
its own file (i.e. not split).
If the file is split into the MIF template being called from the MIF with the 
text flow and Tbls then the table title is on its own (i.e. in FM I see "Table 
1: " with no name for the table) - where/how does it get populated?

Here is a copy of the beginning of the Tbls code: ( I can supply the code, but 
it's too long for here).


#orly Adding next line with Table Format-this is not needed if I don't need the 
TableTitle populated. It pulls the format from the template MIF. If I copy the 
table, it even numbers them correctly, but I can't figure how to get text into 
them. The string below with the example Register Name doesn't show in FM.
 

#Adding Table Title
 # Forces lookup in Paragraph Catalog.
 #even without this line, the table shows up in FM 
with "Table 1: " as its title

> # end of ParaLine
> # end of Para
> # end of TblTitleContent
> # end of TblTitle
> #end of TblFormat




>
> # end of Para
> # end of CellContent
> # end of Cell

#... it goes on to end the rows and cells properly. As well as end the Tbls.
  
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[Framers] Problem with Creating Tables with different TableTitles in FM via MIF file.

2020-04-30 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All, 
I'm trying to create a simple MIF file that contains tables and can be read via 
FM. 
I need this structure for my engineers, so that they can export data in a 
pre-defined table format. 

So I have the structure of the table (basically copied the structure given by 
one of FM's Sample MIF files (included with the FM installation)). 
In any case. Then I actually read the MIF manual and was able to create the 
table and a short body page by creating 2 MIF files. 
 - One MIF file is used as the template file with all my 
paras/chars/tables/variables/master pages/ etc defined. (It's very long)
 - The other MIF file includes for now, one table (it will include all the 
tables in the Tbls) and the Text Flow. The table is built basically from a 
table header and body rows. It has an "include ( template.mif) to call the 
template file (so that this MIF file is "only" about 300 lines long and easy 
for my developer to follows its syntax so that s/he can auto generate tables 
from their database into FM - and the developer doesn't have to deal with 
unnecessary defs). This will be used to create all the ") and then 
define exceptions to the Table Format by giving the statement name for the 
specific property and then redefining it.  i.e. create a local definition 
(instantiation) based on the Table catalog definition. (The MIF manual gives an 
example of redefining the number of columns and then adjusting their width - 
there is nothing about the table title property).
For some reason this does not work with the TableTitle. Any ideas why not? 

Thanks so much, 
Orly Zimmerman
Xsight Labs

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[Framers] Can I Embed an Excel file in PDF via FM

2020-02-13 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All, I would like to embed an Excel file (not table) in the PDF via FM and 
then access it via a hyperlink command in the document. . I can create a link 
to an Excel file that is delivered in addition to the PDF, but not attached to 
the PDF - natively in the FM doc.
I can also, with Acrobat Pro simply attach a file to the generated PDF and 
create a PDF bookmark to open the attached file - but my client can't since he 
only has FM wtihout the Acrobat Pro.
Is there a way to do this directly from FM? Thanks,Orly
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[Framers] How to format source code in FM

2019-12-31 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All, I have a document in Markdown (md) that I was asked to convert to FM.  
I can do it quickly using wildcards,regexs and scripts.
All is fine and good, except when I get to source code. The source code is 
formatted extremely nicely and clearly (with different colors for commands, 
comments, etc and also with code line numbers) in the MD file. I can't come 
close to it in FM without using a fair share of different, newly created para 
and char tags, etc.This is extremely frustrating because I can take the text 
and simply plunk it into Notepad++ and it gets formatted properly depending on 
the language I choose. Perhaps there is a secret setting somewhere in FM, that 
FM can read this code and understand how to format it? and save me loads of 
time. 
I prefer not creating a JPG or BMP of the code - because then the info won't be 
searchable in the PDF. Many Thanks for any ideas :)Happy New Year!Orly Zimmerman
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[Framers] Changing Setup Files

2019-12-10 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All, I'm currently running FM2017 version.I would like to update the 
configuration files so that I can use shortcut keys like I did in earlier 
versions of FM - for example, repeat last para command, or select all 
conditional text around cursor (SelectSameCondTags) - which it seems that Adobe 
removed for some reason. Also, they moved many things around. 
I'm being very careful about the changes I'm making to the various cmd files. 
Of course, before I change any of the cfg files, I make a copy, just in case...

My Qs: 1. I saw that the FM developers added a note asking us to be careful 
when assigning the F10 key to something, because Windows uses that key for 
different things-  anyone know what its commonly used for?  BTW - The Adobe 
developers mention "For documentation on this file, see the on-line manual 
"Changing Setup Files"." - for the cmds.cfg file in the general configui 
folder. - but I can't find this manual.
2. Which cmd file can/should I change - if I'm working in non-structured  - 
probably the wincmds.cfg in the configui/UnStructured/WYSIWYGView/ folder - 
right? 

3. If I want to use a command that is already in place - for example, in FM2107 
- the F7 key is used to find command shortcuts - but I want to use F7 for 
something else (related to conditional texting) - what happens if I use the F7 
in both places?
Thanks!OrlyZ
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[Framers] Converting Markdown (.md) files to FM

2019-11-28 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All, 
My client gave me Markdown and PDF files.
Does anyone know a way to convert markdown files into FM and retain their 
formatting? I know I can import the MD files directly into FM using the Text 
converter - but that leaves them unformatted - the PDF looks really nice.
He wants the files in FrameMaker so that we can create a book easily and also 
continue to maintain the cross-refs to online registers, apart from the FM 
specialties of conditional text, etc.I can make simple scripts to convert, item 
by item, but a conversion tool would probably be best. 

Thanks,OrlyZ
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Re: [Framers] Framers Digest, Vol 159, Issue 19

2019-06-30 Thread Orly Zimmerman

 HI, Try adding a FrameAbove of empty white space to the paratag holding your 
inset.That should give you space above. Regards,Orly Zimmerman
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Hi everyone,

I've come across this strange behavior of Frame where if I insert a paragraph 
at the beginning of a text flow, Space Before does not seem to be taken into 
account. I have to use empty carriage returns to create white space before a 
major heading at the beginning of a flow, for example. Am I missing something? 
As always grateful for any help received.

Best,
Peter

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Problem opening XML file in new FM12 Installation

2015-05-05 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,
I just upgraded to FM12  and am using Structured FM files.
Files that are already in structured FM are ok and all my plugins work fine.
My problem is with a certain type of XML file that I try to open in FM.
This file is used as the main file to put together a number of XML files. The 
file uses a schema and schema instance

These are the first few lines of the file:
(no extra whitespaces anywhere)

?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE book SYSTEM bookCHG.dtd
book xmlns:xs=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema; 
xmlns:xsi=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance; 
xmlns:fn=http://www.w3.org/2005/xpath-functions;

This is the error I get when opening in FM:

XSLT Processor Messages
org.xml.sax.SAXException: FWK005 parse may not be called while parsing.
javax.xml.transform.TransformerException: org.xml.sax.SAXException: FWK005 
parse may not be called while parsing.
javax.xml.transform.TransformerException: org.xml.sax.SAXException: FWK005 
parse may not be called while parsing.
Transformation Aborted.


The maker.ini file has SAXON disabled, and I'm using XALAN for the XSLT 
processor.

Thanks,
Orly



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RE: framers Digest, Vol 114, Issue 15 - Re: Limit Find/Change

2015-04-23 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI John, 
I do this often when converting between different templates. 

But I use FM's Find dialog box with Wildcards turned on and with Consider Case 
turned on. 
I do a search for Body para tag by entering ^Body$ when searching for Paragraph 
Tag. 
The carat (^) defines the beginning of the search sting and the dollar sign ($) 
defines its end, so that you don't find other para tags beginning with Body, 
such as Body Text or BodyBeforeList.
Since FM's search is case sensitive, I also turn on the Consider Case button 
- just to be on the safe side.

Then I continue to Change the Body para tag to Body Text para tag By 
Pasting the Body Text para tag (assuming you did a special copy Paragraph Tag 
while standing on that P tag).

Hope this helps, 
Orly

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Hi, guys...I'm putting in a couple of days to clean up some inconsistencies in 
my documentation template and styles.

I currently use the P style  Body Text (no quotes)  for normal body text.

However, in the past, I'd used the P Style Body (no quotes) and I want to do 
a Paragraph tag search on Body to clean it out.  However, it also finds Body 
Text which I don't want.

How do I limit the search to just Body?

Thanks

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RE: How to Create Bibliography in FM?

2014-12-13 Thread Orly Zimmerman

Thanks so much Robert!
This is very helpful. Now I have everything setup the way I need. 
Have a great week!
Orly.

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Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 7:08 PM
To: Orly Zimmerman; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: How to Create Bibliography in FM?

This is covered in the FM manual topic Create and maintain endnotes:

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7561e-7f49.html

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote:
 Don't use the footnote feature. Create a bibliography_entry paragraph 
 format including an autonumber, then use a cross-reference in running 
 text. Then you can cross-reference the same entry as many times as you 
 like.

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 HI All,

 I have been given a task to create a bibliography for an article I’m 
 writing. I would like to use Framemaker, but I have no idea how I get 
 all the footnotes on the last pages of the file or in an appendix 
 file as opposed to on the page where the footnote was created.
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How to Create Bibliography in FM?

2014-12-11 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,
I have been given a task to create a bibliography for an article I'm writing. I 
would like to use Framemaker, but I have no idea how I get all the footnotes on 
the last pages of the file or in an appendix file as opposed to on the page 
where the footnote was created.

I don't mind writing out the Bibliography entry (I understand that there are 
different formats - as long as I stick to one format, I just add them as I 
create the article). Now I'm up to 6 different bib's. I'll cite it from page 1, 
and then cite from page 3 (using an x-ref in Footnote style); so page 3 needs 
to go back to page 1 to see the footnote. This doesn't look right. And I will 
probably site the same footnote later on in the doc as well.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
Orly Zimmerman

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Fameusers: Mixed Structured / Unstructured and xrefs

2014-11-02 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Lin,
We have a similar process, where we generate FM files from XML sources for our 
chip register files. They are structured FM files. The functional specs for the 
same book are unstructured files. We run FM in structured mode.
Auto cross ref's work as they should - assuming they have the right elements to 
refer to.
The files exist together fine in the structured environment. I had to tweak the 
headers on the Master pages to get the TOC right, but that works ok too.
If you already have the files in structured FM with all the links working, I 
don't see why you can't have them co-exist with the unstructured files in FM. 
The engineers can get used to structured FM. Maybe create a small training 
session for them.
HTH,
Orly

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BookMifWash supplied with Adobe FM10

2012-09-24 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,
In response to my own post from yesterday...
The menu was indeed there, unfortunately, I didn't see it until one of the 3
Adobe engineers that responded to this post pointed out correctly that while
you are focused on the book file, a completely new menu item - Book Utilities -
appears in the menu. I was looking for the menu item under the File menu
(assuming it to be there from previous pre-incarnations of this DLL - for those
who remember).
FYI, there is also an option to open all book files silently, without any
warnings or pop-ups - very nice!
++Kudos++ to Adobe for helping out so quickly and efficiently.
Orly.
==

My previous post:

HI All,
As you all probably know (maybe you didn't know), FM10 comes with a few sample
ExtendScripts.
One of the samples includes giving the user the ability to install a DLL, such
that when you open an FM book file, you have a menu item offering a MIF wash on
the book.

Now, I thought I installed it according to its directions - i.e. copy the DLL
to the fminit folder in the Adobe, FM10 directory on my computer, and then add
a line to the maker.ini file under API clients. Simple enough.
But upon reopening FM10 in a book file - no menu item appears. I restarted my
computer as well, just to check and that didn't help either.
What am I doing wrong?

One thing I suspect is that there is a c file with lots of programming stuff in
it. Seems like I need to do something with that file and I don't know what.
Any ideas?

Thanks,
Orly.

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BookMifWash supplied with Adobe FM10

2012-09-23 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,
As you all probably know (maybe you didn't know), FM10 comes with a few sample 
ExtendScripts.
One of the samples includes giving the user the ability to install a DLL, such 
that when you open an FM book file, you have a menu item offering a MIF wash on 
the book.

Now, I thought I installed it according to its directions - i.e. copy the DLL 
to the fminit folder in the Adobe, FM10 directory on my computer, and then add 
a line to the maker.ini file under API clients. Simple enough.
But upon reopening FM10 in a book file - no menu item appears. I restarted my 
computer as well, just to check and that didn't help either.
What am I doing wrong?

One thing I suspect is that there is a c file with lots of programming stuff in 
it. Seems like I need to do something with that file and I don't know what.
Any ideas?

Thanks,
Orly.


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Petah Tikva, 49527, Israel
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BookMifWash supplied with Adobe FM10

2012-09-23 Thread Orly Zimmerman

One thing I suspect is that there is a c file with lots of programming stuff in
it. Seems like I need to do something with that file and I don't know what.
Any ideas?

Thanks,
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RE: Can't Get Delete Empty Pages to stick (Alison Craig)

2012-07-15 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Alison, 
One thing I find that usually helps, apart from everything everyone else 
suggested (i.e. the pagination issues) is to first save the file and then run 
the Format Page Layout Apply Master Pages to the file with the extra pages. 
This usually solves the problem, especially if I got the extra pages after 
hiding some conditions. Usually, Save, deletes the extra pages, but not when 
special Master pages are used.

Lastly, if nothing else works, then why don't you just use the SpecialDelete 
Pages option. Just make sure that there is really nothing on the empty pages. 
Verify this by viewing the end-of-file marker on the last page that you're 
*not* deleting.

Hope this helps, 
Orly.

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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 16:12:11 -0700
From: Alison Craig alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Can't Get Delete Empty Pages to stick
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FM 9 Version: 9.0p255
Unstructured
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64 bit


The attached booklet is giving me fits (I've emptied the files of content, but 
left placeholders so the layout is identical to the booklet with content).

The problem is Appendix B. No matter what I do, I can't get the Pagination 
option Delete Empty Pages to stick.

I've tried at both the book and file level. I've used Special  Delete Pages. 
I've imported Page Layouts and Document Properties from a file that does work. 
But it never sticks.

I even tried recreating the file by copying Appendix C over Appendix B, then 
copying in new content and re-adding the file to the book. That didn't fix it 
either.

Whenever I Update the file it always reverts to Make Page Count Even.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Alison



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Can't Get "Delete Empty Pages" to stick (Alison Craig)

2012-07-15 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Alison, 
One thing I find that usually helps, apart from everything everyone else 
suggested (i.e. the pagination issues) is to first save the file and then run 
the Format> Page Layout> Apply Master Pages to the file with the extra pages. 
This usually solves the problem, especially if I got the extra pages after 
hiding some conditions. Usually, Save, deletes the extra pages, but not when 
special Master pages are used.

Lastly, if nothing else works, then why don't you just use the Special>Delete 
Pages option. Just make sure that there is really nothing on the empty pages. 
Verify this by viewing the end-of-file marker on the last page that you're 
*not* deleting.

Hope this helps, 
Orly.

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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 16:12:11 -0700
From: Alison Craig 
To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" 
Subject: Can't Get "Delete Empty Pages" to stick
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

FM 9 Version: 9.0p255
Unstructured
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64 bit


The attached booklet is giving me fits (I've emptied the files of content, but 
left "placeholders" so the layout is identical to the booklet with content).

The problem is Appendix B. No matter what I do, I can't get the Pagination 
option Delete Empty Pages to stick.

I've tried at both the book and file level. I've used Special > Delete Pages. 
I've imported Page Layouts and Document Properties from a file that does work. 
But it never sticks.

I even tried recreating the file by copying Appendix C over Appendix B, then 
copying in new content and re-adding the file to the book. That didn't fix it 
either.

Whenever I Update the file it always reverts to Make Page Count Even.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Alison



Alison Craig
Technical Documentation Lead

604-279-8550 | fax 604-279-8559 | toll-free 1-866-437-9508 Ultrasonix Medical 
Corporation | www.ultrasonix.com

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2012-06-20 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,
We have math equations that we get from the engineers in MS Word docsuments.
We usually need to copy these equations into our unstructured FM files for the 
customer.
We're currently on Win7 OS and FM10.

-When we copy equations from Word docs (that were created in Word 2003, 
then saved as Word 2010), into FM (Special PasteEmbedded Object), then all is 
fine and you can double click the equation, open it and continue to edit as a 
Word object if needed. I'm assuming these equations were written using Math 
Type or Equation Editor 3.0

-However, when we import equations from Word files originally created 
in Word 2010 (it seems Word has its own equation editor), then when importing 
(Special PasteEmbeded Document Word Microsoft Object ) into FM, then we get 
loads of question marks and H's as opposed to the equation. If we double click 
on the equation, it opens properly in Word 2010. Saving the page as PDF shows 
only the question marks.

Using any of the other special paste options turns the equation into an image.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to get the equation to show properly in FM?

Thanks,
Orly.

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Importing Math Equations from Word 2010

2012-06-20 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,
We have math equations that we get from the engineers in MS Word docsuments.
We usually need to copy these equations into our unstructured FM files for the
customer.
We're currently on Win7 OS and FM10.

-When we copy equations from Word docs (that were created in Word 2003,
then saved as Word 2010), into FM (Special Paste>Embedded Object), then all is
fine and you can double click the equation, open it and continue to edit as a
Word object if needed. I'm assuming these equations were written using Math
Type or Equation Editor 3.0

-However, when we import equations from Word files originally created
in Word 2010 (it seems Word has its own equation editor), then when importing
(Special Paste>Embeded Document Word Microsoft Object ) into FM, then we get
loads of question marks and H's as opposed to the equation. If we double click
on the equation, it opens properly in Word 2010. Saving the page as PDF shows
only the question marks.

Using any of the other special paste options turns the equation into an image.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to get the equation to show properly in FM?

Thanks,
Orly.
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RE: framers Digest, Vol 77, Issue 11

2012-03-18 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Joel and others, 
Regarding the footnotes, Klaus's idea makes the most sense, i.e., creating a 
cross-reference to the last row of the table. 
I was wondering if any of you reference your footnotes in another way. 
I suggested putting the footnotes - as references, but in a Footer row, as 
opposed to the last row of the table. The footer row, like the Heading row, 
repeats on each page of the table. This way, the reader does not lose their 
place in the table and can just glance down to the bottom of the table to see 
what the footnote is referring to.

This obviously depends on how much space you're willing to give up on your page.
Depending on the type of table and info, this may be more useful and easier for 
the reader. 

I would be happy to hear what others think of this idea.
Best Regards, 
Orly.

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I want to put my table footnotes in the last row of the table and I can't see a 
good way to do it. Does anyone have a method? Thanks,

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framers Digest, Vol 77, Issue 11

2012-03-18 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Joel and others, 
Regarding the footnotes, Klaus's idea makes the most sense, i.e., creating a 
cross-reference to the last row of the table. 
I was wondering if any of you reference your footnotes in another way. 
I suggested putting the footnotes - as references, but in a Footer row, as 
opposed to the last row of the table. The footer row, like the Heading row, 
repeats on each page of the table. This way, the reader does not lose their 
place in the table and can just glance down to the bottom of the table to see 
what the footnote is referring to.

This obviously depends on how much space you're willing to give up on your page.
Depending on the type of table and info, this may be more useful and easier for 
the reader. 

I would be happy to hear what others think of this idea.
Best Regards, 
Orly.

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Apologies if this has been asked before - I attempted to search the archives 
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good way to do it. Does anyone have a method? Thanks,

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F9 Keyboard Shortcut not working (FM10, WinXP)

2012-02-23 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Deanne,
Yes, this is indeed a big problem.
I didn't realize it was a problem until I was sitting with an engineer, who's 
time is very precious and I'm trying to update my text according to his edits, 
as we proceed and I couldn't proceed because I couldn't get the shortcuts to 
work. F8 and F9 are really fundamental to my work, as well as the Control-4/5/6 
used for conditional.
Ultimately, I had to have him wait for me to close FM and restart to get 
everything back to normal again. Very frustrating!!
I think this is an unreasonable bug that Adobe should really have fixed - it 
used to work fine, it should work fine now too!!

I'm on FM10, but in Win7.
Best Regards,
Orly.



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Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:15:17 -0600

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Subject: F9 Keyboard Shortcut not working (FM10, WinXP)

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In our department, a few of us have experienced temporary loss of the keyboard 
shortcut F9 (apply paragraph format) from time to time. As of this week, I have 
lost all use of it, even though I retain use of F8 (select character format). 
What gives? Is this a bug? How does one get F9 back? I searched through Adobe 
help, found no help (could not anticipate what they were thinking).



Thank you.

Deanne Levander



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F9 Keyboard Shortcut not working (FM10, WinXP)

2012-02-23 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Deanne,
Yes, this is indeed a big problem.
I didn't realize it was a problem until I was sitting with an engineer, who's 
time is very precious and I'm trying to update my text according to his edits, 
as we proceed and I couldn't proceed because I couldn't get the shortcuts to 
work. F8 and F9 are really fundamental to my work, as well as the Control-4/5/6 
used for conditional.
Ultimately, I had to have him wait for me to close FM and restart to get 
everything back to normal again. Very frustrating!!
I think this is an unreasonable bug that Adobe should really have fixed - it 
used to work fine, it should work fine now too!!

I'm on FM10, but in Win7.
Best Regards,
Orly.



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Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:15:17 -0600

From: "Levander, Deanne" <dleva...@tcfbank.com>

To: "'framers at lists.frameusers.com'" 

Subject: F9 Keyboard Shortcut not working (FM10, WinXP)

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In our department, a few of us have experienced temporary loss of the keyboard 
shortcut F9 (apply paragraph format) from time to time. As of this week, I have 
lost all use of it, even though I retain use of F8 (select character format). 
What gives? Is this a bug? How does one get F9 back? I searched through Adobe 
help, found no help (could not anticipate what they were thinking).



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RE: Custom Table Footnote options

2011-07-04 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Jeremy, 
Thanks for your response.

Unfortunately, the \x codes you suggest do not result in anything useful. (I 
just get these x2663666560676261, numbers posing as symbols)

The reason I got a germandbls for \xa7 is because that is what is defined for 
the FM standard character set. (Note additionally that \xa8 = registerserif, 
\xa9 = copyrightserif, \xaa = trademarkserif from the FM char set).

I don't understand why I cannot find similar sequences (or codes) to the *\d\D 
, or where it is documented).

In any case, if I do look at what the FM documentation states, I don't have too 
many options for Table footnote symbols because I cannot assign the Symbol or 
Dingbats font to the symbol in the Table Footnote numbering properties. 

Do you suppose this can be done in the FM ini or configuration files?
Thanks, 
Orly.

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:jer...@omsys.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 8:56 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Orly Zimmerman
Subject: Re: Custom Table Footnote options

On Sun, 3 Jul 2011 13:18:18 +0300, Orly Zimmerman 
or...@marvell.com wrote:

Hi All,
I would like to have a few more options as to my 
custom Table Footnote symbols.

Currently, if I define a Custom option  in the 
FormatDocumentNumbering Table Footnote Tab with 
the definition of *\d\D, FM uses a star, a dagger 
and then a double dagger for my footnote symbols 
in that order.

Those are the Frame dialog box codes, which work in 
all Frame versions, Unicode (8 up) or not (7 down).

I tried inserting \xa7 \ax8, \xa9 and \xaa and got 
a Beta, then a few copyright symbols and then a 
register trademark symbol - but what I wanted were 
club, diamond, heart and spade.

Not sure why you got that; should have been section 
mark, dieresis, copyright, and feminine ordinal.
Those codes would give you the suits in the Symbol 
font, but AFAIK you can't specify font for those
symbols.

Does anyone know how I can get a proper list of 
options for defining these Custom symbols for table 
footnotes? I've checked the character sets but FM 
doesn't seem to use the standard char sets.

Use the Unicode for the chars: \x2663 \x2666 \x2665 
\x2660 for the solid symbols, \x2667 \x2662 \x2661 
\x2664 for the hollow ones.

I'm currently using FM8 from TCS1 on WinXP SP2

For FM8 and above, Unicode code points should work.
Haven't tested this specific usage, though.  ;-)

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RE: Custom Table Footnote options

2011-07-04 Thread Orly Zimmerman

Hi All, 
Ok, so we've established that the Unicode for, say, a black spade, is 2660, 
according to all sources so far.
In the Table Footnote Custom dialog box, when I enter 
2660
, it thinks they are just numbers. The first footnote gets a 2, the second a 6, 
etc.
 
When I enter:
\x2660
 in the dialog box, FM returns 
60
And the same thing happens, the first footnote gets a , the next a 6, etc.

If I look on the BabelMap thing - the box holding the 2660 character just shows 
an empty box, while its label is U+2660 BLACK SPADE SUIT

Can someone explain what is going on here and why I don't/can/'t see the black 
spade on my computer.
 
Thanks, 
Orly.

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Custom Table Footnote options

2011-07-04 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Jeremy, 
Thanks for your response.

Unfortunately, the "\x" codes you suggest do not result in anything useful. (I 
just get these "x2663&66&65&60&67&62&61", numbers posing as symbols)

The reason I got a germandbls for \xa7 is because that is what is defined for 
the FM standard character set. (Note additionally that \xa8 = registerserif, 
\xa9 = copyrightserif, \xaa = trademarkserif from the FM char set).

I don't understand why I cannot find similar sequences (or codes) to the *\d\D 
, or where it is documented).

In any case, if I do look at what the FM documentation states, I don't have too 
many options for Table footnote symbols because I cannot assign the Symbol or 
Dingbats font to the symbol in the Table Footnote numbering properties. 

Do you suppose this can be done in the FM ini or configuration files?
Thanks, 
Orly.

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:jer...@omsys.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 8:56 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Orly Zimmerman
Subject: Re: Custom Table Footnote options

On Sun, 3 Jul 2011 13:18:18 +0300, Orly Zimmerman 
 wrote:

>Hi All,
>I would like to have a few more options as to my 
>custom Table Footnote symbols.
>
>Currently, if I define a "Custom" option  in the 
>Format>Document>Numbering> Table Footnote Tab with 
>the definition of *\d\D, FM uses a star, a dagger 
>and then a double dagger for my footnote symbols 
>in that order.

Those are the Frame dialog box codes, which work in 
all Frame versions, Unicode (8 up) or not (7 down).

>I tried inserting \xa7 \ax8, \xa9 and \xaa and got 
>a Beta, then a few copyright symbols and then a 
>register trademark symbol - but what I wanted were 
>club, diamond, heart and spade.

Not sure why you got that; should have been section 
mark, dieresis, copyright, and feminine ordinal.
Those codes would give you the suits in the Symbol 
font, but AFAIK you can't specify font for those
symbols.

>Does anyone know how I can get a proper list of 
>options for defining these Custom symbols for table 
>footnotes? I've checked the character sets but FM 
>doesn't seem to use the standard char sets.

Use the Unicode for the chars: \x2663 \x2666 \x2665 
\x2660 for the solid symbols, \x2667 \x2662 \x2661 
\x2664 for the hollow ones.

>I'm currently using FM8 from TCS1 on WinXP SP2

For FM8 and above, Unicode code points should work.
Haven't tested this specific usage, though.  ;-)

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

Custom Table Footnote options

2011-07-04 Thread Orly Zimmerman

Hi All, 
Ok, so we've established that the Unicode for, say, a black spade, is 2660, 
according to all sources so far.
In the Table Footnote Custom dialog box, when I enter 
2660
, it thinks they are just numbers. The first footnote gets a 2, the second a 6, 
etc.

When I enter:
\x2660
 in the dialog box, FM returns 
&60
And the same thing happens, the first footnote gets a &, the next a 6, etc.

If I look on the BabelMap thing - the box holding the 2660 character just shows 
an empty box, while its label is "U+2660 BLACK SPADE SUIT"

Can someone explain what is going on here and why I don't/can/'t see the black 
spade on my computer.

Thanks, 
Orly.

Custom Table Footnote options

2011-07-03 Thread Orly Zimmerman

Hi All,
I would like to have a few more options as to my custom Table Footnote symbols.
Currently, if I define a Custom option  in the FormatDocumentNumbering 
Table Footnote Tab with the definition of *\d\D, FM uses a star, a dagger and 
then a double dagger for my footnote symbols in that order.
I tried inserting \xa7 \ax8, \xa9 and \xaa and got a Beta, then a few copyright 
symbols and then a register trademark symbol - but what I wanted were club, 
diamond, heart and spade.
Does anyone know how I can get a proper list of options for defining these 
Custom symbols for table footnotes? I've checked the character sets but FM 
doesn't seem to use the standard char sets.

I'm currently using FM8 from TCS1 on WinXP SP2

Thanks,
Orly.



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Custom Table Footnote options

2011-07-03 Thread Orly Zimmerman

Hi All,
I would like to have a few more options as to my custom Table Footnote symbols.
Currently, if I define a "Custom" option  in the Format>Document>Numbering> 
Table Footnote Tab with the definition of *\d\D, FM uses a star, a dagger and 
then a double dagger for my footnote symbols in that order.
I tried inserting \xa7 \ax8, \xa9 and \xaa and got a Beta, then a few copyright 
symbols and then a register trademark symbol - but what I wanted were club, 
diamond, heart and spade.
Does anyone know how I can get a proper list of options for defining these 
Custom symbols for table footnotes? I've checked the character sets but FM 
doesn't seem to use the standard char sets.

I'm currently using FM8 from TCS1 on WinXP SP2

Thanks,
Orly.



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[FrameUsers] Cannot save one or more files in the book

2011-06-30 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Yves,
Yes, I get this message a lot. I have tried researching this and not found a 
reason or solution.
I'm running FM8 on WinXP SP2 from the Adobe TCS1.0 with 3GB.
What I usually do, is just ask FM not to save the file and then re-open it and 
everything is fine (I may have to adjust the conditions again to match the 
book).
This error message usually appears for the first file of my book and usually 
when I first save change conditions, and then update the book and then try to 
save the book.
Best Regards,
Orly.


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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:30:04 +0200
From: Yves Barbion yves.barb...@gmail.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Fm9: Cannot save one or more files in the book
Message-ID: BANLkTi=qnRgTadq6OwJ7D=jsgvz88ro...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hi group

Fm 9.0p255 + Windows 7, 64-bit + Subversion

I have a large Fm book (166 files, 1200 pages). When I update my book and all 
generated files (toc, lof, lot, ix), I sometimes get an error message saying 
cannot save one or more files in the book. Is happens sometimes and the 
files which cannot be saved are different each time the error occurs.

Has anyone else seen this?


--
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[FrameUsers]: Looking for the best way to highlight text to the reader

2011-06-30 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Fei,
We also use the AXCM plug-in for the colors and I understand why you don't want 
to use the over/underlines or other lines in addition to color.

I do recall one of our other teams using a script to add the tag name (i.e. 
Product1) to the beginning of each text that uses that conditional tag. In this 
way, you could leave your colors for your customers who are not color blind and 
would appreciate the coloring, and have a text delineation as well - to 
indicate what product is being discussed.
(You know also that you can leave the coloring in the PDF and define the PDF to 
print only black and white).

Alternatively, you could search per condition and apply a different font or 
font size or some other character change - although that would look funny  (it 
might be ok for some things) - here, however, the search and replace would be 
ridiculously simple - Search (even throughout the entire book) for ConditionA 
and replace by PASTING  a character tag (you could define font 10, Arial Narrow 
as opposed to Arial, or underline, or whatever). Obviously, you should test it 
first so nothing goes wrong.
Best Regards,
Orly.


You wrote:

Message: 1
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:06:39 -0700
From: Fei Min Lorente feimin.lore...@onsemi.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Looking for the best way to highlight text to the reader
Message-ID:
  344eadc893fe4040946404586d86121463a...@namail2.ad.onsemi.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Structured FrameMaker 7.2 on Windows XP, AXCM version 2.01, and FrameScript.



I have some manuals that are going to be published separately for different 
products. I'm using an attribute value for conditional text, and the AXCM 
plug-in to color and filter the manuals. Normally, I remove colorizing for 
the final publication, but this time, the program manager wants to show the 
differences. We want to avoid using color in case someone decides to print 
the manuals (yes, we still ship PDF as well as HTML). AXCM offers underlining, 
double underlining, overlining, strikethrough, and revision bars in addition 
to colors. I'm not completely satisfied with any of these solutions because 
the underscores in some words gets lost with the underlining, and it gets a 
bit messy when you have a whole page underlined. On the other hand, revision 
bars look a bit like it's a draft and it doesn't show what changed on a line.
Can anyone think of some alternatives considering the tools I have at my 
disposal? For example, is there any way to change the revision bar to another 
character or characters?



Fei Min



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[FrameUsers] Cannot save one or more files in the book

2011-06-30 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Yves,
Yes, I get this message a lot. I have tried researching this and not found a 
reason or solution.
I'm running FM8 on WinXP SP2 from the Adobe TCS1.0 with 3GB.
What I usually do, is just ask FM not to save the file and then re-open it and 
everything is fine (I may have to adjust the conditions again to match the 
book).
This error message usually appears for the first file of my book and usually 
when I first save change conditions, and then update the book and then try to 
save the book.
Best Regards,
Orly.

You wrote:
>Message: 5
>Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:30:04 +0200
>From: Yves Barbion 
>To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: Fm9: Cannot save one or more files in the book
>Message-ID:

[FrameUsers]: Looking for the best way to highlight text to the reader

2011-06-30 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Fei,
We also use the AXCM plug-in for the colors and I understand why you don't want 
to use the over/underlines or other lines in addition to color.

I do recall one of our other teams using a script to add the tag name (i.e. 
Product1) to the beginning of each text that uses that conditional tag. In this 
way, you could leave your colors for your customers who are not color blind and 
would appreciate the coloring, and have a text delineation as well - to 
indicate what product is being discussed.
(You know also that you can leave the coloring in the PDF and define the PDF to 
print only black and white).

Alternatively, you could search per condition and apply a different font or 
font size or some other character change - although that would look funny  (it 
might be ok for some things) - here, however, the search and replace would be 
ridiculously simple - Search (even throughout the entire book) for ConditionA 
and replace by PASTING  a character tag (you could define font 10, Arial Narrow 
as opposed to Arial, or underline, or whatever). Obviously, you should test it 
first so nothing goes wrong.
Best Regards,
Orly.

You wrote:

>Message: 1
>Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:06:39 -0700
>From: "Fei Min Lorente" 
>To: 
>Subject: Looking for the best way to highlight text to the reader
>Message-ID:
>  <344EADC893FE4040946404586D86121463A857 at NAMAIL2.ad.onsemi.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>Structured FrameMaker 7.2 on Windows XP, AXCM version 2.01, and FrameScript.
>
>
>
>I have some manuals that are going to be published separately for different 
>products. I'm using an attribute value for conditional text, and the AXCM 
>plug-in to color and >filter the manuals. Normally, I remove colorizing for 
>the final publication, but this time, the program manager wants to show the 
>differences. We want to avoid using color in >case someone decides to print 
>the manuals (yes, we still ship PDF as well as HTML). AXCM offers underlining, 
>double underlining, overlining, strikethrough, and revision >bars in addition 
>to colors. I'm not completely satisfied with any of these solutions because 
>the underscores in some words gets lost with the underlining, and it gets a 
>bit >messy when you have a whole page underlined. On the other hand, revision 
>bars look a bit like it's a draft and it doesn't show what changed on a line.
>Can anyone think of some alternatives considering the tools I have at my 
>disposal? For example, is there any way to change the revision bar to another 
>character or >characters?
>
>
>
>Fei Min
>
>
>
>---
>Fei Min Lorente
>Senior Technical Communicator
>Medical Division
>ON Semiconductor
>feimin.lorente at onsemi.com <mailto:feimin.lorente at onsemi.com>
>+1 519 884 9696 ext 2297 | office
>+1 519 831 4931 | mobile
>+1 519 884 0228 | fax
>http://www.onsemi.com<http://www.onsemi.com/> 
><http://www.onsemi.com<http://www.onsemi.com/>>
>---

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Recall: Deleting Empty Paragraphs

2011-06-13 Thread Orly Zimmerman

Orly Zimmerman would like to recall the message, Deleting Empty Paragraphs.
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2011-06-13 Thread Orly Zimmerman

Scratch That,
Even though it finds the tables, it actually leaves them intact when searching 
and replacing this way.
Go figure :)
===
HI All,
I'm trying to delete empty paragraphs from a file I imported from Word. A simple
\P\p
or
^\p
in the find box using wildcards does fine, except if my empty para is an anchor 
para with a table anchor in it. It seems FM doesn't see the table anchor.

I have a script that deletes empty paras as well, but that left me with empty 
paras that were a level 3 or 4 Heading.

And yes, I already did a MIF wash. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Orly.
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2011-06-13 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,
I'm trying to delete empty paragraphs from a file I imported from Word. A simple
\P\p
or
^\p
in the find box using wildcards does fine, except if my empty para is an anchor 
para with a table anchor in it. It seems FM doesn't see the table anchor.

I have a script that deletes empty paras as well, but that left me with empty 
paras that were a level 3 or 4 Heading.

And yes, I already did a MIF wash. Any ideas?

Thanks,
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2011-06-13 Thread Orly Zimmerman

Orly Zimmerman would like to recall the message, "Deleting Empty Paragraphs".

Deleting Empty Paragraphs

2011-06-13 Thread Orly Zimmerman

Scratch That,
Even though it finds the tables, it actually leaves them intact when searching 
and replacing this way.
Go figure :)
===
HI All,
I'm trying to delete empty paragraphs from a file I imported from Word. A simple
\P\p
or
^\p
in the find box using wildcards does fine, except if my empty para is an anchor 
para with a table anchor in it. It seems FM doesn't see the table anchor.

I have a script that deletes empty paras as well, but that left me with empty 
paras that were a level 3 or 4 Heading.

And yes, I already did a MIF wash. Any ideas?

Thanks,
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Re: FM8 crashing like it's Word

2011-05-15 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,
I have been struggling with this problem for a while too and always thought 
that I just did not have enough memory.

In any case, now I have 3GB RAM and it still crashes too often.
FM 8 (p.277) from the Adobe Technical Suite 1.0 on a laptop, Windows XP, 32 bit 
system, 2.53 GHz CPU, 3 GB RAM - I did see an improvement (i.e. fewer crashes) 
when I moved from 2GB RAM to 3GB RAM, but FM still crashes too often.

There are two types of crashes - one, apparently when there are obvious missing 
cross references - because there have been systematic crashes when 
opening/closing my Revision history chaps - which are always short chapters 
with no figures, but lots of x-refs (always in tables) and some are always 
hidden, due the nature of our books. I understand that there is a bug that 
reports these hidden x-refs in tables as unresolved when updating the book (as 
reported by the error log file). If I do a search for unresolved x-refs in my 
book, however, no unresolved x-refs are found.

The other type of crash has to do with whether I have embedded visios - this 
apparently can drive FM crazy - although I'm not sure why. I try to save the 
visios with the latest Visio version I have on my laptop -assuming this will 
help for some reason.

If all else fails, usually, a MIF wash solves the problem, so I have scripts to 
save all my book files as MIFs and save all the MIF's back to FM.

BR,
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FM8 crashing like it's Word

2011-05-15 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,
I have been struggling with this problem for a while too and always thought 
that I just did not have enough memory.

In any case, now I have 3GB RAM and it still crashes too often.
FM 8 (p.277) from the Adobe Technical Suite 1.0 on a laptop, Windows XP, 32 bit 
system, 2.53 GHz CPU, 3 GB RAM - I did see an improvement (i.e. fewer crashes) 
when I moved from 2GB RAM to 3GB RAM, but FM still crashes too often.

There are two types of crashes - one, apparently when there are obvious missing 
cross references - because there have been systematic crashes when 
opening/closing my Revision history chaps - which are always short chapters 
with no figures, but lots of x-refs (always in tables) and some are always 
hidden, due the nature of our books. I understand that there is a bug that 
reports these hidden x-refs in tables as unresolved when updating the book (as 
reported by the error log file). If I do a search for unresolved x-refs in my 
book, however, no unresolved x-refs are found.

The other type of crash has to do with whether I have "embedded" visios - this 
apparently can drive FM crazy - although I'm not sure why. I try to save the 
visios with the latest Visio version I have on my laptop -assuming this will 
help for some reason.

If all else fails, usually, a MIF wash solves the problem, so I have scripts to 
save all my book files as MIFs and save all the MIF's back to FM.

BR,
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2011-03-23 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,
Does anyone know/remember - about Acrobat 8 Standard - after creating a PDF 
using this version of Acrobat, can the creator then "Enable for Commenting" in 
Adobe Reader? Or does this not work in the Standard version of Acrobat 8?

Thanks,
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Acrobat Write 8 Standard - enable Reader commenting?

2011-03-22 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,
Does anyone know/remember - about Acrobat 8 Standard - after creating a PDF 
using this version of Acrobat, can the creator then Enable for Commenting in 
Adobe Reader? Or does this not work in the Standard version of Acrobat 8?

Thanks,
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RE: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in

2011-03-16 Thread Orly Zimmerman

Hi Lea,
Regarding your message below, this was a problem in FM 5,and maybe FM6.
If I'm not wrong, this was fixed in FM 7 - if not FM7 then definitely by FM8.
I use it now (FM8) and it works fine- in fact, for some things I do - SAVE AS 
PDF is the preferred way to print.

Have a great day!
Orly.
==
Hi Art,



Sadly, regardless of the fact that Adobe has owned both Frame and Acrobat for 
quite a while, the collective wisdom on this list is that ?Save as PDF? should 
not be used. Ever. Many folks have posted problems with this feature ranging 
across four versions of Frame that I know of, and I?m a relative newcomer. A 
few people have posted that it works for them, and more power to them. For 
myself, I?ve given up ever even attempting it.



YMMV,

Lea

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Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in

2011-03-16 Thread Orly Zimmerman

Hi Lea,
Regarding your message below, this was a problem in FM 5,and maybe FM6.
If I'm not wrong, this was fixed in FM 7 - if not FM7 then definitely by FM8.
I use it now (FM8) and it works fine- in fact, for some things I do - SAVE AS
PDF is the preferred way to print.

Have a great day!
Orly.
==
Hi Art,

Sadly, regardless of the fact that Adobe has owned both Frame and Acrobat for
quite a while, the collective wisdom on this list is that ?Save as PDF? should
not be used. Ever. Many folks have posted problems with this feature ranging
across four versions of Frame that I know of, and I?m a relative newcomer. A
few people have posted that it works for them, and more power to them. For
myself, I?ve given up ever even attempting it.

YMMV,

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RE: Need Advice on Upgrade Strategies for FM and Acrobat

2011-02-14 Thread Orly Zimmerman

Hello Jasmine,
Our SME/Engineers are routinely given FM to draft documents.
We have set up a template for them to use (unstructured FM) and if they are so 
inclined to help, this usually works very nicely.
The template is firstly setup with the types of headings and some sort of 
general statement of how to populate the heading - eg - 1- unit name - 2- 
overview- 3 features  4- signal descriptions 5 theory of operation 6 
programming 7 limitations  - etc.
Secondly, the FM template is setup for ease of use.

One thing we do - is use para tag names that the engineers will understand  - 
for example - BodyBeforeList which is exactly what it implies. And while this 
is an unstructured file, the next para is defined as a Bullet tag - so that 
they actually can get a bulleted list (should they need a numbered list, then 
we would explain to them to change that tag to Numbered1  whereby Numbered is 
the next tag - and so on.

Now, if I were creating the template for FM Tech Writers, the tag name would be 
 BBL or b4list or some shortened version whereby I could use shortcut keys - to 
format, but, from experience, I can tell you that the engineers don't like to 
remember keyboard shortcuts. F8/F9 are hard enough to get them to remember.

Tables are already setup in the template. There was some special table we used 
that already had some cells straddled with different para tags in the relevant 
places, so that we put on the reference page - they can copy from the ref page.

If you use conditional text, the other - very important thing I would make sure 
they know and understand, is to always work with **all** conditions showing - 
and give them a lengthy explanation on how to use conditions.

I could go on and on...

In other words, if you set up the template for easy use, it makes their and 
your job easier.

As far as upgrades and Acrobat - you'll probably have to get the latest FM for 
the engineers -they most likely don't need the TCS. In the past, I think that 
single FM licenses came with Acrobat Distiller installed, then the SMEs can 
create PDFs which is basically all they need from Acrobat. I don't know how 
Adobe sells the packs now.

Best of Luck,
Orly.

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Need Advice on Upgrade Strategies for FM and Acrobat

2011-02-14 Thread Orly Zimmerman

Hello Jasmine,
Our SME/Engineers are routinely given FM to draft documents.
We have set up a template for them to use (unstructured FM) and if they are so
inclined to help, this usually works very nicely.
The template is firstly setup with the types of headings and some sort of
general statement of how to populate the heading - eg - 1- unit name - 2-
overview- 3 features 4- signal descriptions 5 theory of operation 6
programming 7 limitations - etc.
Secondly, the FM template is setup for ease of use.

One thing we do - is use para tag names that the engineers will understand -
for example - BodyBeforeList which is exactly what it implies. And while this
is an unstructured file, the next para is defined as a Bullet tag - so that
they actually can get a bulleted list (should they need a numbered list, then
we would explain to them to change that tag to Numbered1 whereby Numbered is
the next tag - and so on.

Now, if I were creating the template for FM Tech Writers, the tag name would be
BBL or b4list or some shortened version whereby I could use shortcut keys - to
format, but, from experience, I can tell you that the engineers don't like to
remember keyboard shortcuts. F8/F9 are hard enough to get them to remember.

Tables are already setup in the template. There was some special table we used
that already had some cells straddled with different para tags in the relevant
places, so that we put on the reference page - they can copy from the ref page.

If you use conditional text, the other - very important thing I would make sure
they know and understand, is to always work with **all** conditions showing -
and give them a lengthy explanation on how to use conditions.

I could go on and on...

In other words, if you set up the template for easy use, it makes their and
your job easier.

As far as upgrades and Acrobat - you'll probably have to get the latest FM for
the engineers -they most likely don't need the TCS. In the past, I think that
single FM licenses came with Acrobat Distiller installed, then the SMEs can
create PDFs which is basically all they need from Acrobat. I don't know how
Adobe sells the packs now.

Best of Luck,
Orly.

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RE: decrementing number tags

2011-01-25 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Wim - that's a great idea!!
Thanks so much!!
Orly.

From: Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp [mailto:w...@idtp.eu]
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:11 PM
To: Orly Zimmerman; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: decrementing number tags

Try this trick: rotate the table 180 degrees (or put it in a frame and rotate 
the frame), then rotate the cells individually 180 degrees again.

Then you have a table upside down but text is straight and numbering should 
begin at the bottom.

Kind regards, vriendelijke groet,
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decrementing number tags

2011-01-25 Thread Orly Zimmerman

Hi All,
Any ideas about how to get numbering tags such that the numbers decrement 
instead of increment?
I tried to use a number property of   or

decrementing number tags

2011-01-25 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Wim - that's a great idea!!
Thanks so much!!
Orly.

From: Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp [mailto:w...@idtp.eu]
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:11 PM
To: Orly Zimmerman; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: decrementing number tags

Try this trick: rotate the table 180 degrees (or put it in a frame and rotate 
the frame), then rotate the cells individually 180 degrees again.

Then you have a table upside down but text is straight and numbering should 
begin at the bottom.

Kind regards, vriendelijke groet,
Wim Hooghwinkel
iDTP - Technical Communication Consultant, Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in 
FrameMaker
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decrementing number tags

2011-01-24 Thread Orly Zimmerman

Hi All,
Any ideas about how to get numbering tags such that the numbers decrement 
instead of increment?
I tried to use a number property of  n- or n=N-1 - after setting the first 
in the series to 31
I need this because I want to create a table column with numbers starting from 
31 going down to 0 to describe error messages.
Any ideas will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Orly
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RE: framers Digest, Vol 62, Issue 18 - Issue while importing FM 7.1 mif file in RoboHelp 8

2010-12-19 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Neeraj, 
Yes, it would be helpful to know your filename, however, try checking your 
filename for more than one space. This once caused me to lose figures in the 
file - it could make Robohelp hiccup as well.
Orly.

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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 11:40:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Neeraj Jain neerajja...@yahoo.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Issue while importing FM 7.1 mif file in RoboHelp 8
Message-ID: 460254.86302...@web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hi,

I have FM 7.1 and RH 8 installed on my Windows XP system. Whenever I try to 
import a frame mif, I get an error which says something like Failed. Invalid 
character in filename. My files do not contain any special characters.

What could be the cause?
 
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 12:48:28 -0800
From: Combs, Richard richard.co...@polycom.com
To: Neeraj Jain neerajja...@yahoo.com,
framers@lists.frameusers.com  framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Issue while importing FM 7.1 mif file in RoboHelp 8
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Neeraj Jain wrote:
 
 I have FM 7.1 and RH 8 installed on my Windows XP system. Whenever I try to
 import a frame mif, I get an error which says something like Failed.
 Invalid
 character in filename. My files do not contain any special characters.
 
 What could be the cause?

What could be the filename? :-) 

You're more likely to get some help if you tell us the exactly what the error 
message was (not something like what it was), and if you provide the entire 
file path and name. Note that the problem could be in the path, not in the name 
of the file. 


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framers Digest, Vol 62, Issue 18 - Issue while importing FM 7.1 mif file in RoboHelp 8

2010-12-19 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Neeraj, 
Yes, it would be helpful to know your filename, however, try checking your 
filename for more than one space. This once caused me to lose figures in the 
file - it could make Robohelp hiccup as well.
Orly.

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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 11:40:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Neeraj Jain 
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Issue while importing FM 7.1 mif file in RoboHelp 8
Message-ID: <460254.86302.qm at web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hi,

I have FM 7.1 and RH 8 installed on my Windows XP system. Whenever I try to 
import a frame mif, I get an error which says something like "Failed. Invalid 
character in filename". My files do not contain any special characters.

What could be the cause?

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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 12:48:28 -0800
From: "Combs, Richard" 
To: Neeraj Jain ,
"framers at lists.frameusers.com"   
Subject: RE: Issue while importing FM 7.1 mif file in RoboHelp 8
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Neeraj Jain wrote:

> I have FM 7.1 and RH 8 installed on my Windows XP system. Whenever I try to
> import a frame mif, I get an error which says something like "Failed.
> Invalid
> character in filename". My files do not contain any special characters.
> 
> What could be the cause?

What could be the filename? :-) 

You're more likely to get some help if you tell us the exactly what the error 
message was (not "something like" what it was), and if you provide the entire 
file path and name. Note that the problem could be in the path, not in the name 
of the file. 

Richard G. Combs
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FM8 with SP3/FM9 SP3 or Windows7 - any problems?

2010-12-14 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,
I was wondering if anyone knows how FM8 handles embedded Visios (OLEs) with 
Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) or how FM9 handles them.

Currently, we work with TCS-FM8 on Windows XP with SP2 and have a load of FM 
files with embedded Visios.

As I understand, FM7 doesn't do well with this matter with SP3- I was wondering 
what will happen if IT insists on upgrading us to SP3 or Windows 7.

We will have to change the way we work or is it not a problem?

TIA,
Orly.


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FM8 with SP3/FM9 SP3 or Windows7 - any problems?

2010-12-14 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,
I was wondering if anyone knows how FM8 handles embedded Visios (OLEs) with 
Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) or how FM9 handles them.

Currently, we work with TCS-FM8 on Windows XP with SP2 and have a load of FM 
files with embedded Visios.

As I understand, FM7 doesn't do well with this matter with SP3- I was wondering 
what will happen if IT insists on upgrading us to SP3 or Windows 7.

We will have to change the way we work or is it not a problem?

TIA,
Orly.


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Re: Inheriting formats when pasting

2010-11-29 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Andy, 
Control-Shift-v is the smart paste and you don't need to futz with any config 
files to use it.
Happy Thanksgiving, 
Orly.

 On 26/11/2010 12:54 PM, Andy Kass wrote:
 Hi everyone, and Happy Thanksgiving,

 Here's a FM 8 (p277) question for you to ponder, it's been bugging me
 for some time.

 When I cut-and-paste between paragraphs of different fonts (or any
 other format), Frame remembers the source formatting, and pastes it
 along with the text. So our strict formats get all mixed up.
 
 Is there a way to configure smart paste by default? Do FM9 or 10
 behave differently?


 I use this very handy utility http://www.stevemiller.net/puretext/
 with the keyboard shortcut of WindowsLogoKey + v to strip formatting 
 from the clipboard and paste as text whenever required.  Regular Ctrl 
 + v continues to work as always.

 HTH,
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Inheriting formats when pasting

2010-11-29 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Andy, 
Control-Shift-v is the "smart" paste and you don't need to futz with any config 
files to use it.
Happy Thanksgiving, 
Orly.

> On 26/11/2010 12:54 PM, Andy Kass wrote:
>> Hi everyone, and Happy Thanksgiving,
>>
>> Here's a FM 8 (p277) question for you to ponder, it's been bugging me
>> for some time.
>>
>> When I cut-and-paste between paragraphs of different fonts (or any
>> other format), Frame remembers the source formatting, and pastes it
>> along with the text. So our strict formats get all mixed up.
> 
>> Is there a way to configure "smart" paste by default? Do FM9 or 10
>> behave differently?
>>
>
> I use this very handy utility http://www.stevemiller.net/puretext/
> with the keyboard shortcut of WindowsLogoKey + v to strip formatting 
> from the clipboard and paste as text whenever required.  Regular Ctrl 
> + v continues to work as always.
>
> HTH,

FM8 crashing upon showing all conditions.

2010-08-05 Thread Orly Zimmerman

Hello Everybody,
I'm really at a loss here.
I'm hoping someone can help.

I have a file (actually a few), which when I try to show all conditions crashes 
the entire FM book. It also crashes when I open the file on its own and try to 
show all conditions.
This usually happens with files that have a visio object embedded.
Or with my Revision History file which may have old revisions with x-refs that 
are no longer relevant.

Apart from driving me crazy, I'm having incredible trouble (trouble's not the 
word, I can't create PDFs this way) creating PDFs this way. My only alternative 
is to send the corrupted file to a co-worker, have them open the file and then 
save it with all conditions showing. (MIF wash does not help).

Any other ideas?
And yes, I've installed the Windows Hotfix - my IT fellow is at a loss too.

I'm running FM 8.277 from the
Adobe Technical Suite

On a Laptop with:
XP 2002 SP2
Intel Core2 CPU
1.83 GHz, 2.00GB RAM

BR,
Orly Zimmerman
Marvell Israel



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FM8 crashing upon showing all conditions.

2010-08-05 Thread Orly Zimmerman

Hello Everybody,
I'm really at a loss here.
I'm hoping someone can help.

I have a file (actually a few), which when I try to show all conditions crashes 
the entire FM book. It also crashes when I open the file on its own and try to 
show all conditions.
This usually happens with files that have a visio object embedded.
Or with my Revision History file which may have old revisions with x-refs that 
are no longer relevant.

Apart from driving me crazy, I'm having incredible trouble (trouble's not the 
word, I can't create PDFs this way) creating PDFs this way. My only alternative 
is to send the corrupted file to a co-worker, have them open the file and then 
save it with all conditions showing. (MIF wash does not help).

Any other ideas?
And yes, I've installed the Windows Hotfix - my IT fellow is at a loss too.

I'm running FM 8.277 from the
Adobe Technical Suite

On a Laptop with:
XP 2002 SP2
Intel Core2 CPU
1.83 GHz, 2.00GB RAM

BR,
Orly Zimmerman
Marvell Israel



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RE: SAving frame files with numbers at the end

2010-05-24 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Gillian, 
I had this problem with files that were created with older versions of visio, 
that were *embedded* in my fm file. I had this particular problem especially 
when I tried changing the conditional text settings. In one of the individual 
files, I had isolated the problematic figure and then had to delete it in order 
to work with the file. I found an older copy of the figure in my backup files 
somewhere. 
For these files that you mention with the funny hex endings - if you open that 
file in fm you'll see that one or more of you figures is shown as a grey box. 
That may give a clue as to the corrupted figure.

As far as the books go, I also had trouble with saving books as PDF when 
changing conditional text settings. I tried the windows hotfix, but was still 
having other problems (I'm running XP/SP2- TCS 1.0). In the end, IT just 
reformatted my disk - so everything so far is ok - haven't done major 
book-building yet, then I'll know for sure if all is ok.
Orly.

Orly Zimmerman
Technical Writer
CPBU Documentation
Marvell Israel - Petach Tikva



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Date: 22.05.2010 00:58
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Debloat FM file with linked Visio sheets

2010-03-22 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,
I'm trying to link figures to my FM file.
Originally, I had embedded the Visios, but this made the file about 30MB or 
larger.
I've finally figured out how to link to different sheets of a single Visio 
file, but still, there is one Visio causing the file to still be 10MB - whereas 
the Visio file itself is 966kb and the FM file without any figures is also 
around 317kb.

All the drawings are linked, even the one causing the file to blow up.
As an aside, I had noticed that one of my files was linked funny -then I 
noticed that the sheet name included a slash - when I got rid of the slash, all 
was ok. My current sheet that is causing me this grief is called HW so I 
don't think it's the sheet name.

I'm running FM8 on the TCS
Any ideas will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Orly.


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Debloat FM file with linked Visio sheets

2010-03-22 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,
I'm trying to link figures to my FM file.
Originally, I had embedded the Visios, but this made the file about 30MB or 
larger.
I've finally figured out how to link to different sheets of a single Visio 
file, but still, there is one Visio causing the file to still be 10MB - whereas 
the Visio file itself is 966kb and the FM file without any figures is also 
around 317kb.

All the drawings are linked, even the one causing the file to blow up.
As an aside, I had noticed that one of my files was linked funny -then I 
noticed that the sheet name included a slash - when I got rid of the slash, all 
was ok. My current sheet that is causing me this grief is called "HW" so I 
don't think it's the sheet name.

I'm running FM8 on the TCS
Any ideas will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Orly.

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Possible Solution for Color Definition Cleanup

2010-01-16 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Fred,
We found that if you save the file as MIF and open in FM7 that you can delete 
these unwanted  colors in the MIF file.But if you're using conditional tags, in 
FM8, the mixed tags will give mixed colors. I'm just hoping I never find two 
colors that mix to give white :)
BTW, this is true also with the Deleted, Inserted  and Hidden FM tags that FM 
gives the file when saving as FM7 and then re-opening in FM8 (they are used 
even if you don't use track changes) - you get some funny tags that you don't 
see in your conditional text dialog box, but do show on the bottom of the 
screen (where tag names are shown). This usually happens when the engineer used 
all tags for some text except his/her product tag. It can get weird in some 
places. I've written a bug about it to Adobe, but haven't seen any response.
Orly.

Orly Zimmerman
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CP Documentation
Marvell Israel - Petach Tikva

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Possible Solution for Color Definition Cleanup

2010-01-16 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Fred,
We found that if you save the file as MIF and open in FM7 that you can delete 
these unwanted  colors in the MIF file.But if you're using conditional tags, in 
FM8, the mixed tags will give mixed colors. I'm just hoping I never find two 
colors that mix to give white :)
BTW, this is true also with the Deleted, Inserted  and Hidden FM tags that FM 
gives the file when saving as FM7 and then re-opening in FM8 (they are used 
even if you don't use track changes) - you get some funny tags that you don't 
see in your conditional text dialog box, but do show on the bottom of the 
screen (where tag names are shown). This usually happens when the engineer used 
all tags for some text except his/her product tag. It can get weird in some 
places. I've written a bug about it to Adobe, but haven't seen any response.
Orly.

Orly Zimmerman
Technical Writer
CP Documentation
Marvell Israel - Petach Tikva

RE: FM crashing upon attempt to create PDF - 3Qs

2009-11-12 Thread Orly Zimmerman

Thank you all for this info!! It's very helpful.
I will return to the IT people and clarify this. They gave me the impression 
that no laptop could handle more than 3GB.
I'm really much more efficient with a laptop as I'm also my kids chauffeur 
so, I'm always on the move and would like/need to have the most souped up 
gadget I can, while still in the company's budget.

Orly.


From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:13 PM
To: Fred Ridder
Cc: jim.pink...@voith.com; Orly Zimmerman; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM crashing upon attempt to create PDF - 3Qs

Fred's correct, but I did notice that things changed slightly with W7. W7 32 
seems to be able to address about 3.6 or so of RAM -- I'd have to check to get 
an exact figure, but it was a nicely larger chunk on my 4G system.

Art

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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Fred Ridder 
docu...@hotmail.commailto:docu...@hotmail.com wrote:

Jim Pinkham wrote:

 Orly, on the notebook point, please clarify. Did IT tell you the one
 that you have cannot be upgraded beyond 2 GB? That may well be accurate.
 However, there are notebooks currently in stores that have 6 GB of RAM.

But it should also be noted that only 3GB of memory can be accessed directly if 
you are running a 32-bit version of Windows. It is pointless to have more than 
3GB of RAM (even if your system can physically and electrically accommodate it) 
unless you are running a 64-bit Windows version. But going from 2GB to 3GB can 
make a significant difference in performance.

-FR

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FM crashing upon attempt to create PDF - 3Qs

2009-11-12 Thread Orly Zimmerman

Thank you all for this info!! It's very helpful.
I will return to the IT people and clarify this. They gave me the impression 
that no laptop could handle more than 3GB.
I'm really much more efficient with a laptop as I'm also my kids "chauffeur" 
so, I'm always on the move and would like/need to have the most souped up 
gadget I can, while still in the company's budget.

Orly.

From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:13 PM
To: Fred Ridder
Cc: jim.pinkham at voith.com; Orly Zimmerman; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM crashing upon attempt to create PDF - 3Qs

Fred's correct, but I did notice that things changed slightly with W7. W7 32 
seems to be able to address about 3.6 or so of RAM -- I'd have to check to get 
an exact figure, but it was a nicely larger chunk on my 4G system.

Art

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redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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  DoD 358

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Fred Ridder mailto:docudoc at hotmail.com>> wrote:

Jim Pinkham wrote:

> Orly, on the notebook point, please clarify. Did IT tell you the one
> that you have cannot be upgraded beyond 2 GB? That may well be accurate.
> However, there are notebooks currently in stores that have 6 GB of RAM.

But it should also be noted that only 3GB of memory can be accessed directly if 
you are running a 32-bit version of Windows. It is pointless to have more than 
3GB of RAM (even if your system can physically and electrically accommodate it) 
unless you are running a 64-bit Windows version. But going from 2GB to 3GB can 
make a significant difference in performance.

-FR

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RE: FM crashing upon attempt to create PDF - 3Qs

2009-11-11 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Art,
I print directly to the postscript printer called Adobe PDF which I think is 
supplied with FM. I do not use the SAVE AS feature, just from habit (using FM 
from version 5) although I understand that the feature currently works in FM8 
and is actually needed when I use a third party app on FM.

As for my computer's guts...
I have 1.99GB of RAM, running at 1.83 GHz

My C drive also has 20 GB of free space - don't know if that makes a difference.

**A very interesting point and solution**, ===my IT fellow suggested moving 
my files to a folder directly under my C drive, so that Adobe doesn't have to 
deal with long folder names under a number of other folders.
This seems to have solved the problem, at least for the day.

Thanks for all your help!!
Orly Z.

From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 9:44 PM
To: Orly Zimmerman
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM crashing upon attempt to create PDF - 3Qs

How much RAM and free disk space do you have? Creating the PDF eats up a lot 
and can trigger a crash if it runs out.

Also, you don't mention how you're doing it -- printing to the PDF logical 
printer or trying to use SaveAs... which I think isn't as good as printing to 
the Acrobat printer.

Yes, the hotfix works and doesn't seem to break anything, so it certainly 
wouldn't hurt to roll it on.

Art

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  art.campb...@gmail.commailto:art.campb...@gmail.com
 ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
  DoD 358

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Orly Zimmerman 
or...@marvell.commailto:or...@marvell.com wrote:
HI All,

I'm working in FM8 - TCS, unstructured, on Windows XP Pro

I have a few questions:
1. Does anyone know of a way to get FM to stop creating the recovery files for 
when FM crashes?

Lately, I'm working on an incredibly large book and whenever I change my 
conditional text settings, update the book and then try to create my PDF, FM 
crashes. I don't need those recovery files, and would like to disable their 
creation if possible.

Question 2 is whether anyone knows how to get FM to stop crashing altogether 
when attempting to create the PDF -

I seached the archives and came across a suggestion for a Windows Hotfix -
Question 3:  Have any of you used the hotfix? Does it cause any other problems 
or does it actually fix the problem?

Thanks,
Orly Z.
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RE: FM crashing upon attempt to create PDF - 3Qs

2009-11-11 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Art,
Why would moving the files eliminate the network delays?
The folder I placed the files on are on my C drive, but they are still 
automatically backed up by the network - the other drive (with the longer name) 
was also backed up automatically.

And, I always work with my book files open - I want to see what's happening, 
and if I goof, this way I can just not save. Also, each time I made a change to 
the book files (changed conditions or updated the book) I would save the files 
at that step - perhaps this guzzled the  precious free virtual memory.

Lastly, how would I know if my memories are marginal? I work on a laptop and 
the IT people told me that I could not get more than 2G RAM on the laptop -  I 
would need to move to a PC.

Thanks,
Orly.


From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:24 PM
To: Orly Zimmerman
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM crashing upon attempt to create PDF - 3Qs

The other thing the move may have accomplished is eliminating any network 
delays that could cause FM to time out waiting for the files to open

One other thing you may try is opening all files in the book before you do the 
PDF, which should also eliminate any network issues.

The 2G RAM and kinda limited free space may be marginal if it's an incredibly 
large book ... There's a lot of file swapping and temp file creation involved 
in the process.

Art

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 ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
  DoD 358

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:16 AM, Orly Zimmerman 
or...@marvell.commailto:or...@marvell.com wrote:
HI Art,
I print directly to the postscript printer called Adobe PDF which I think is 
supplied with FM. I do not use the SAVE AS feature, just from habit (using FM 
from version 5) although I understand that the feature currently works in FM8 
and is actually needed when I use a third party app on FM.

As for my computer's guts...
I have 1.99GB of RAM, running at 1.83 GHz

My C drive also has 20 GB of free space - don't know if that makes a difference.

**A very interesting point and solution**, ===my IT fellow suggested moving 
my files to a folder directly under my C drive, so that Adobe doesn't have to 
deal with long folder names under a number of other folders.
This seems to have solved the problem, at least for the day.

Thanks for all your help!!
Orly Z.

From: Art Campbell 
[mailto:art.campb...@gmail.commailto:art.campb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 9:44 PM
To: Orly Zimmerman
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM crashing upon attempt to create PDF - 3Qs

How much RAM and free disk space do you have? Creating the PDF eats up a lot 
and can trigger a crash if it runs out.

Also, you don't mention how you're doing it -- printing to the PDF logical 
printer or trying to use SaveAs... which I think isn't as good as printing to 
the Acrobat printer.

Yes, the hotfix works and doesn't seem to break anything, so it certainly 
wouldn't hurt to roll it on.

Art

Art Campbell
  art.campb...@gmail.commailto:art.campb...@gmail.com
 ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
  DoD 358
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Orly Zimmerman 
or...@marvell.commailto:or...@marvell.com wrote:
HI All,

I'm working in FM8 - TCS, unstructured, on Windows XP Pro

I have a few questions:
1. Does anyone know of a way to get FM to stop creating the recovery files for 
when FM crashes?

Lately, I'm working on an incredibly large book and whenever I change my 
conditional text settings, update the book and then try to create my PDF, FM 
crashes. I don't need those recovery files, and would like to disable their 
creation if possible.

Question 2 is whether anyone knows how to get FM to stop crashing altogether 
when attempting to create the PDF -

I seached the archives and came across a suggestion for a Windows Hotfix -
Question 3:  Have any of you used the hotfix? Does it cause any other problems 
or does it actually fix the problem?

Thanks,
Orly Z.
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FM crashing upon attempt to create PDF - 3Qs

2009-11-11 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Art,
I print directly to the postscript printer called "Adobe PDF" which I think is 
supplied with FM. I do not use the SAVE AS feature, just from habit (using FM 
from version 5) although I understand that the feature currently works in FM8 
and is actually needed when I use a third party app on FM.

As for my computer's guts...
I have 1.99GB of RAM, running at 1.83 GHz

My C drive also has 20 GB of free space - don't know if that makes a difference.

**A very interesting point and solution**, ===>>>>my IT fellow suggested moving 
my files to a folder directly under my C drive, so that Adobe doesn't have to 
deal with long folder names under a number of other folders.
This seems to have solved the problem, at least for the day.

Thanks for all your help!!
Orly Z.

From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 9:44 PM
To: Orly Zimmerman
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM crashing upon attempt to create PDF - 3Qs

How much RAM and free disk space do you have? Creating the PDF eats up a lot 
and can trigger a crash if it runs out.

Also, you don't mention how you're doing it -- printing to the PDF logical 
printer or trying to use SaveAs... which I think isn't as good as printing to 
the Acrobat printer.

Yes, the hotfix works and doesn't seem to break anything, so it certainly 
wouldn't hurt to roll it on.

Art

Art Campbell
  art.campbell at gmail.com<mailto:art.campbell at gmail.com>
 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
  DoD 358

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Orly Zimmerman mailto:orlyz at marvell.com>> wrote:
HI All,

I'm working in FM8 - TCS, unstructured, on Windows XP Pro

I have a few questions:
1. Does anyone know of a way to get FM to stop creating the recovery files for 
when FM crashes?

Lately, I'm working on an incredibly large book and whenever I change my 
conditional text settings, update the book and then try to create my PDF, FM 
crashes. I don't need those recovery files, and would like to disable their 
creation if possible.

Question 2 is whether anyone knows how to get FM to stop crashing altogether 
when attempting to create the PDF -

I seached the archives and came across a suggestion for a Windows Hotfix -
Question 3:  Have any of you used the hotfix? Does it cause any other problems 
or does it actually fix the problem?

Thanks,
Orly Z.
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FM crashing upon attempt to create PDF - 3Qs

2009-11-11 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Art,
Why would moving the files eliminate the network delays?
The folder I placed the files on are on my C drive, but they are still 
automatically backed up by the network - the other drive (with the longer name) 
was also backed up automatically.

And, I always work with my book files open - I want to see what's happening, 
and if I goof, this way I can just not save. Also, each time I made a change to 
the book files (changed conditions or updated the book) I would save the files 
at that step - perhaps this guzzled the  precious free virtual memory.

Lastly, how would I know if my memories are marginal? I work on a laptop and 
the IT people told me that I could not get more than 2G RAM on the laptop -  I 
would need to move to a PC.

Thanks,
Orly.


From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:24 PM
To: Orly Zimmerman
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM crashing upon attempt to create PDF - 3Qs

The other thing the move may have accomplished is eliminating any network 
delays that could cause FM to time out waiting for the files to open

One other thing you may try is opening all files in the book before you do the 
PDF, which should also eliminate any network issues.

The 2G RAM and kinda limited free space may be marginal if it's "an incredibly 
large book" ... There's a lot of file swapping and temp file creation involved 
in the process.

Art

Art Campbell
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 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
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On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:16 AM, Orly Zimmerman mailto:orlyz at marvell.com>> wrote:
HI Art,
I print directly to the postscript printer called "Adobe PDF" which I think is 
supplied with FM. I do not use the SAVE AS feature, just from habit (using FM 
from version 5) although I understand that the feature currently works in FM8 
and is actually needed when I use a third party app on FM.

As for my computer's guts...
I have 1.99GB of RAM, running at 1.83 GHz

My C drive also has 20 GB of free space - don't know if that makes a difference.

**A very interesting point and solution**, ===>>>>my IT fellow suggested moving 
my files to a folder directly under my C drive, so that Adobe doesn't have to 
deal with long folder names under a number of other folders.
This seems to have solved the problem, at least for the day.

Thanks for all your help!!
Orly Z.

From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campbell at 
gmail.com<mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 9:44 PM
To: Orly Zimmerman
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: FM crashing upon attempt to create PDF - 3Qs

How much RAM and free disk space do you have? Creating the PDF eats up a lot 
and can trigger a crash if it runs out.

Also, you don't mention how you're doing it -- printing to the PDF logical 
printer or trying to use SaveAs... which I think isn't as good as printing to 
the Acrobat printer.

Yes, the hotfix works and doesn't seem to break anything, so it certainly 
wouldn't hurt to roll it on.

Art

Art Campbell
  art.campbell at gmail.com<mailto:art.campbell at gmail.com>
 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
      DoD 358
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Orly Zimmerman mailto:orlyz at marvell.com>> wrote:
HI All,

I'm working in FM8 - TCS, unstructured, on Windows XP Pro

I have a few questions:
1. Does anyone know of a way to get FM to stop creating the recovery files for 
when FM crashes?

Lately, I'm working on an incredibly large book and whenever I change my 
conditional text settings, update the book and then try to create my PDF, FM 
crashes. I don't need those recovery files, and would like to disable their 
creation if possible.

Question 2 is whether anyone knows how to get FM to stop crashing altogether 
when attempting to create the PDF -

I seached the archives and came across a suggestion for a Windows Hotfix -
Question 3:  Have any of you used the hotfix? Does it cause any other problems 
or does it actually fix the problem?

Thanks,
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HI All,

I'm working in FM8 - TCS, unstructured, on Windows XP Pro

I have a few questions:
1. Does anyone know of a way to get FM to stop creating the recovery files for 
when FM crashes?

Lately, I'm working on an incredibly large book and whenever I change my 
conditional text settings, update the book and then try to create my PDF, FM 
crashes. I don't need those recovery files, and would like to disable their 
creation if possible.

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when attempting to create the PDF -

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Did you try saving your FM files as MIFs first? At least for the chp of the 
offending page
Best of Luck
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Hi folks,

I'm hoping the combined mega-brain that is the frameusers forum can
help me out with a problem...

I've just upgraded from Frame 7.2 to Adobe Tech Comms Suite 2 (Frame
9.0p237). I'm running Frame under Windows XP, SP2, using Parallels
Desktop 4 on my Mac (OS X 10.5.6). I have applied all the Adobe
updates to the Tech Comm Suite components.

Now, I can't print book files using the AdobePDF driver. Frame 9 gets
part-way through the job then crashes with an exception. This has also
broken my Frame 7.2 printing (I guess installing the new Acrobat Pro
stomped all over the existing Distiller/AdobePDF installation; job
options moved/disappeared, and so on).

 From Frame 9,  I get:

Internal error 9004, 6920492, 9676798, 0. Framemaker has detected a
serious problem and must quit.

The FrameLog file has this (along with loads of text that probably
isn't helpful):

Internal Error: 9004, 5998149, 4768373, 4768714

Also, from Frame 7.2, as well as the ... must quit error, I get:

 The instruction 0x0035199f referenced memory at 0x. The
memory could not be read.


I *can* print individual files (opened from the book, but printed from
the individual file, not the book's File menu).

I tried using a different PPD (a Postscript), but no dice.

I looked on the interweb and found a couple of things that looked
promising:

http://iconlogic.blogs.com/weblog/2009/02/adobe-framemaker-it-wasnt-my-fault.html

Tried trashing the font cache and rebooting: no joy; tried looking for
the Microsoft hotfix that supposedly restores balance in the universe:
you have to ask for it, rather than download it, and there only
appears to be an English version for XP SP4 - SP4 doesn't exist!

I'm stumped. If any of you guys can help. I would be very pleased.
BTW, I have also installed Toobar Express from Microtype, and the
customized toolbars that were made available recently by Klaus Daube
(free of charge, http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker55.html ). I may try
uninstalling those, to see if it helps (but I doubt it).

Thanks in advance,

Martin






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FM crashing upon attempt to create PDF - 3Qs

2009-11-10 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,

I'm working in FM8 - TCS, unstructured, on Windows XP Pro

I have a few questions:
1. Does anyone know of a way to get FM to stop creating the recovery files for 
when FM crashes?

Lately, I'm working on an incredibly large book and whenever I change my 
conditional text settings, update the book and then try to create my PDF, FM 
crashes. I don't need those recovery files, and would like to disable their 
creation if possible.

Question 2 is whether anyone knows how to get FM to stop crashing altogether 
when attempting to create the PDF -

I seached the archives and came across a suggestion for a Windows Hotfix -
Question 3:  Have any of you used the hotfix? Does it cause any other problems 
or does it actually fix the problem?

Thanks,
Orly Z.

Framers Digest, Vol 49, Issue 1

2009-11-08 Thread Orly Zimmerman

Did you try saving your FM files as MIFs first? At least for the chp of the 
offending page
Best of Luck
Orly Z.

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Hi folks,

I'm hoping the combined mega-brain that is the frameusers forum can
help me out with a problem...

I've just upgraded from Frame 7.2 to Adobe Tech Comms Suite 2 (Frame
9.0p237). I'm running Frame under Windows XP, SP2, using Parallels
Desktop 4 on my Mac (OS X 10.5.6). I have applied all the Adobe
updates to the Tech Comm Suite components.

Now, I can't print book files using the AdobePDF driver. Frame 9 gets
part-way through the job then crashes with an exception. This has also
broken my Frame 7.2 printing (I guess installing the new Acrobat Pro
stomped all over the existing Distiller/AdobePDF installation; job
options moved/disappeared, and so on).

 From Frame 9,  I get:

"Internal error 9004, 6920492, 9676798, 0. Framemaker has detected a
serious problem and must quit."

The FrameLog file has this (along with loads of text that probably
isn't helpful):

"Internal Error: 9004, 5998149, 4768373, 4768714"

Also, from Frame 7.2, as well as the "... must quit" error, I get:

" The instruction "0x0035199f" referenced memory at "0x". The
memory could not be "read"."

I *can* print individual files (opened from the book, but printed from
the individual file, not the book's File menu).

I tried using a different PPD (a Postscript), but no dice.

I looked on the interweb and found a couple of things that looked
promising:

http://iconlogic.blogs.com/weblog/2009/02/adobe-framemaker-it-wasnt-my-fault.html

Tried trashing the font cache and rebooting: no joy; tried looking for
the Microsoft hotfix that supposedly restores balance in the universe:
you have to ask for it, rather than download it, and there only
appears to be an English version for XP SP4 - SP4 doesn't exist!

I'm stumped. If any of you guys can help. I would be very pleased.
BTW, I have also installed Toobar Express from Microtype, and the
customized toolbars that were made available recently by Klaus Daube
(free of charge, http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker55.html ). I may try
uninstalling those, to see if it helps (but I doubt it).

Thanks in advance,

Martin

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CB25 0HD

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retaining x-refs when moved within a book

2009-10-19 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,

We need to update the books we're working on by moving things around within the 
book.
Now, if I want to move a table that is cross-referenced within the same chp to 
another chp (i.e. we have table 1 in chp1, will move table 1 to chap2 - but 
will still ref the old table 1 from chp 1 *and* from chp 2), is there a way to 
keep the x-refs updated?

Thanks,
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smart quotes in XML?

2009-05-21 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,
I'm using Adobe Framemaker 8 from the technical suite

Currently, we are converting our FM files into XML and then inputting info into 
a database. From this database we will be creating our FM files again.

Now, in the XML file we noticed something strange that the smart quotes get 
translated into some unintelligible letters - apparently the Unicode or 
something.

Can anyone tell me what the Unicode for the begin, end smart double and single 
quotes are, so that we may perform a search and replace to normal (straight) 
quotes in the XML ?
Or how I would replace them?
In the future - we'll know to do this first in the FM - but for now we've 
already begun working in XML and don't want to convert again.

Thanks
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smart quotes in XML?

2009-05-21 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,
I'm using Adobe Framemaker 8 from the technical suite

Currently, we are converting our FM files into XML and then inputting info into 
a database. From this database we will be creating our FM files again.

Now, in the XML file we noticed something strange that the smart quotes get 
translated into some unintelligible letters - apparently the Unicode or 
something.

Can anyone tell me what the Unicode for the begin, end smart double and single 
quotes are, so that we may perform a search and replace to normal (straight) 
quotes in the XML ?
Or how I would replace them?
In the future - we'll know to do this first in the FM - but for now we've 
already begun working in XML and don't want to convert again.

Thanks
 Orly Z.

RE: Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?FM8 to FM7 to FM8 conditional text woes

2009-01-09 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,
I thank you for your suggestions, however...
I am not at liberty to change the workflow of the docs.
Since many engineers use the same FM files to update the various info in the 
files, the Visios must remain embedded OLEs (as Art rightfully corrected me) 
for the engineers to update and not have to remember where to take what file 
from or have the need to create graphics folders.

That said, after re-thinking/looking at the file and with Shlomo Peretz's help, 
I realized that my real culprit was conditional text gone awry.
I'll explain, when I saved that FM8 file as FM7, it kept two conditional tags 
created by FM8, but not accessible by FM8. My engineer, when he applied the 
tags for some of the text in the file, put 2 tags as NOT IN - causing all the 
rest of the tags to be applied to the text, which is not how I work the book 
(yes, I know, I should have communicated this better to the engineer, in any 
case).
In the meantime, I open the FM7 file in FM8 and save.
In order to fix the tag situation, I did Control-F7 to highlight all the 
incorrectly tagged material. Then I de-applied the incorrect tags and thought I 
had left only one conditional tag on the text. It should have been seen in 
yellow, however the color did not change at all. Low and behold, below you see 
the crazy FM8_Track_changes_deleted and FM8_Track_changes_added conditional 
tags at the bottom status bar indicating these conditions are applied to my 
text, but they do not appear in the conditional text dialog box.
So, in an effort to rid myself of this nusance - I tried to completely untag 
the info (Control-6) - This only causes the text to now be marked as if track 
changes deleted was on and mark it in red strikethrough.
So I play with it a little more, and then - wham - FM8 has lost all its senses 
and decided to die on me.
I guess it didn't know what to do with those extra tags either, especially 
since I didn't have track changes on and have never had track changes on in FM8 
- just because the engineers have FM7 and cant' handle it.
(I may have confused the order of what I did - it was early this morning - 
about 14 hours ago)

IN SHORT, the solution to this mess is to delete the extra tags in 
**FM7**(there they are regular conditional text tags that can be 
edited/deleted) - preferrably before the engineer gets hold of them, or at 
least afterwards, before messing with the file.

Thanks again for your help.
Best Regards,
Orly.


From: Art Campbell [art.campb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 11:30 PM
To: Fred Ridder
Cc: richard.co...@polycom.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com; Orly Zimmerman
Subject: Re: Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

I agree with you guys, but the client of the moment is using a
home-grown conversion program to generate HTML that requires GIFs or
PNGs. So I've been using them more than (my preference too) PNGs.

Art

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Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
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   DoD 358



On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Art Campbell wrote:


 Yeah, I was including PDF as a viable graphic format to use to replace
 the OLE, just didn't call it out.
 However, PNG has been working really well from Visio 2007. So far. ;- )

 But it seems a shame to convert a vector graphic to a raster image
 unless one of the deliverables will be HTML.

 PDF retains the vector properties of the original and is highly portable.
 If portability is not an issue and everyone is careful to only use
 universally available fonts (since the file format embeds only the font
 *name* and not the font itself), WMF works well for Visio graphics
 in my experience.

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Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-08 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,
I have an FM file that is 14 MB with lots of Visio embedded drawings in 
different conditionalized rows of the tables.
Now, I am trying to compare my last version of the doc with the newer version I 
just got from the engineer who updated the file.
I am working in FM8, but had saved the file in FM7 for the engineer.
The engineer returned the file in FM7 format, which I opened in FM8. I did 
nothing else to the file except open all the conditions in order to compare 
with my previous file.

Now, each time I do a compare, FM crashes on me. The corrupted file (with the 
.fm.c57 extension) shows that all the figs are corrupted.

Does anyone have a solution for this? Could it be a simple matter of adding 
more memory to the computer?

My computer is running XP Pro, version 2002, SP2
"Genuine Intel(r) CPU
T2400 @1.83GHz
1.83 GHz, 1.99 GB of RAM"

Thanks,
Orly Zimmerman
Technical Writer
CPBU Documentation
Marvell Semiconductor Ltd.
Petach-Tikvah, Israel

Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?>>FM8 to FM7 to FM8 conditional text woes

2009-01-08 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,
I thank you for your suggestions, however...
I am not at liberty to change the workflow of the docs.
Since many engineers use the same FM files to update the various info in the 
files, the Visios must remain embedded OLEs (as Art rightfully corrected me) 
for the engineers to update and not have to remember where to take what file 
from or have the need to create graphics folders.

That said, after re-thinking/looking at the file and with Shlomo Peretz's help, 
I realized that my real culprit was conditional text gone awry.
I'll explain, when I saved that FM8 file as FM7, it kept two conditional tags 
created by FM8, but not accessible by FM8. My engineer, when he applied the 
tags for some of the text in the file, put 2 tags as NOT IN - causing all the 
rest of the tags to be applied to the text, which is not how I work the book 
(yes, I know, I should have communicated this better to the engineer, in any 
case).
In the meantime, I open the FM7 file in FM8 and save.
In order to fix the tag situation, I did Control-F7 to highlight all the 
incorrectly tagged material. Then I de-applied the incorrect tags and thought I 
had left only one conditional tag on the text. It should have been seen in 
yellow, however the color did not change at all. Low and behold, below you see 
the crazy FM8_Track_changes_deleted and FM8_Track_changes_added conditional 
tags at the bottom status bar indicating these conditions are applied to my 
text, but they do not appear in the conditional text dialog box.
So, in an effort to rid myself of this nusance - I tried to completely untag 
the info (Control-6) - This only causes the text to now be marked as if track 
changes deleted was on and mark it in red strikethrough.
So I play with it a little more, and then - wham - FM8 has lost all its senses 
and decided to die on me.
I guess it didn't know what to do with those extra tags either, especially 
since I didn't have track changes on and have never had track changes on in FM8 
- just because the engineers have FM7 and cant' handle it.
(I may have confused the order of what I did - it was early this morning - 
about 14 hours ago)

IN SHORT, the solution to this mess is to delete the extra tags in 
**FM7**(there they are regular conditional text tags that can be 
edited/deleted) - preferrably before the engineer gets hold of them, or at 
least afterwards, before messing with the file.

Thanks again for your help.
Best Regards,
Orly.

From: Art Campbell [art.campb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 11:30 PM
To: Fred Ridder
Cc: richard.combs at polycom.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com; Orly 
Zimmerman
Subject: Re: Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

I agree with you guys, but the client of the moment is using a
home-grown conversion program to generate HTML that requires GIFs or
PNGs. So I've been using them more than (my preference too) PNGs.

Art

Art Campbell
   art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Fred Ridder  wrote:
> Art Campbell wrote:
>
>
>> Yeah, I was including PDF as a viable graphic format to use to replace
>> the OLE, just didn't call it out.
>> However, PNG has been working really well from Visio 2007. So far. ;- )
>
> But it seems a shame to convert a vector graphic to a raster image
> unless one of the deliverables will be HTML.
>
> PDF retains the vector properties of the original and is highly portable.
> If portability is not an issue and everyone is careful to only use
> universally available fonts (since the file format embeds only the font
> *name* and not the font itself), WMF works well for Visio graphics
> in my experience.
>
> -Fred Ridder
>
>

Re: Distiller error

2008-12-30 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Rebecca,
Did you try saving your file as MIF and then reopening the MIF file and saving 
as FM.

Sometimes this helps.

Best Regards,
Orly Z.
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Distiller error

2008-12-30 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Rebecca,
Did you try saving your file as MIF and then reopening the MIF file and saving 
as FM.

Sometimes this helps.

Best Regards,
Orly Z.

Disappearing Symbol Characters

2008-07-23 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI Ted, 

I had the same problem. 

This was the solution that I used given by Paul Schnall from one of my
other lists: 



"I have had the same problem, and it is a little more work but I create
the letter using the visio drawing tools and then save it in my
favorites.

Now I just bring it into the visio file and place it where I like."

(OZ: I think it becomes a sort of custom shape - as far as Visio shapes
go) 



You can look up the other suggested solutions in the FM Users' archives
under the subject: "visio fonts don't show in FM" (June 22 -25 2007)



Orly



Orly Zimmerman

Technical Writer

CPBU Documentation

Marvell DSPC - Petach Tikva

FM won't let me type Shift-a char

2008-07-07 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All, 

Does anyone have any idea why my computer refuses to type a Capital A
(i.e. when I press Shift-A), nothing shows on the screen. 

This only happens when typing in FM. All other applications are fine. 

Thanks, 

Orly

 

Orly Zimmerman

Technical Writer

CPBU Documentation

Marvell DSPC - Petach Tikva

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FM won't let me type "Shift-a" char

2008-07-03 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All, 

Does anyone have any idea why my computer refuses to type a Capital A
(i.e. when I press Shift-A), nothing shows on the screen. 

This only happens when typing in FM. All other applications are fine. 

Thanks, 

Orly



Orly Zimmerman

Technical Writer

CPBU Documentation

Marvell DSPC - Petach Tikva

how to change PDF comment text font size?

2008-03-16 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All, 

This is probably more of an Adobe question, but someone here might know.


Is there any way to control the size of the text in the comments box
when commenting on Comment enabled PDFs?

A colleague would like to add names to a floor plan created in Autocad
and saved as PDF and write in the names of each person in the cubicle
using the PDF commenting feature. But our current text is too large for
full names. I tried using the EditPreferencesCommentingViewing
Comments. There is a possibilty there to change the font size, but it
doesn't seem to work for us.

 

Any ideas will be appreciated. 

Thanks, 

Orly

 

Orly Zimmerman

Technical Writer

CPBU Documentation

Marvell DSPC - Petach Tikva

 

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