Re: [Framers] Document reflows when saving to PDF
Thank you Mike! The issue is the behind the scenes switch to the Adobe PDF printer driver when the PDF is created. The PDFs are created on a dedicated computer, so I should be able to solve it by changing the default printer driver to Adobe PDF. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Document reflows when saving to PDF
I hardly use FrameMaker these days, but as I recall, Times can hide on reference pages and master pages, which require a separate search from body pages. Times may also hide in imported objects. Another place that unexpected fonts hide is in table titles. You insert a new table, but don't need a title on it, so you turn the title off. But it's still hiding there with an assigned font attached. (FM uses Times New Roman as default there.) Finally, I think I remember that, if you print registration marks, AdobePDF chooses Times as the font to print them. There's nothing you can do about it, but I wouldn't think that would cause reflow. The most common cause of reflow , though, is not having AdobePDF set as the default printer. If it's not set, then FM uses the font character spacing of the driver for the printer that is set, but changes it when you create the PDF. I'm sure that's not news to you. Regarding Calibri reflowing, is it possible that the document could be using a printer resident version of the font, then when you switch to AdobePDF to print, it might be picking up a different, installed version of the font instead? Again, that would assume that you don't have AdobePDF as default printer. Looking in printer properties, there is an entry for "TrueType Font" that lets you choose between "Download as Softfont" or "Substitute with Device Font." The first is preferable because it prevents substitutions with a font that might have an identical name, but different metrics. BTW, I am assuming that by reflow, you mean words move from one line to another, changing lines and paragraph layout. But, if your issue is only a reflow of line length, there is also a maker.ini setting, "DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics=On" that affects the placement of words on the screen. It lets you choose between displaying characters optimally (using the optimal number of pixels), at the expense of line length. There are not enough pixels on screen to perfectly display characters and the spacing between them, so FM has to either fudge the spacing between them or fudge the line length. When set to "On", the spacing between characters will not be accurate, and the characters themselves might look a little rougher, but the length of the line of characters will be accurate and everything will print its best and with the layout you expect. When set to "Off," FM optimizes the characters for clarity on screen at the expense of line length. So lines of typed characters, at times, might even extend beyond the margin, even though they won't print that way. If you are not justifying text, you might not even notice this because you expect a ragged right-hand margin. When you print, the printer has many more dpi and gets it all right—but line lengths will not be what you saw on screen. So "On" gives a closer preview of how the document will print. "Off" makes characters look best on screen, but doesn't care so much about how lines look. I can't believe that I wrote all that. I miss Framemaker! Mike Wickham On 8/24/2023 8:26 AM, r...@rickquatro.com wrote: I am saving a FrameMaker document to PDF and I get this message at the Console: The "Times" Font is not available. "Times New Roman" will be used in this session. It is causing the document to reflow. The font is not Times or Times New Roman but Calibri. Querying the properties in FrameMaker and Acrobat show that they are both Calibri 9 point. I have seen this message in the past, but the reflow is a big problem for this project. Is there a setting that will give me an exact FrameMaker to PDF text match? Rick ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Document reflows when saving to PDF
I can't look at Distiller settings now, but look for a way to disable font substitutions. Or, alternately, force Times to sub to Calibri. Or save as MIF and search for the hidden Times (stuff gets set in weird places other than just character and paragraph styles). Manually change to Calibri and resave as FM. HTH, David DCA:d.a.d. Original message From: r...@rickquatro.com Date: 8/24/23 09:29 (GMT-05:00) To: "'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'" Subject: [Framers] Document reflows when saving to PDF I am saving a FrameMaker document to PDF and I get this message at the Console: The "Times" Font is not available. "Times New Roman" will be used in this session. It is causing the document to reflow. The font is not Times or Times New Roman but Calibri. Querying the properties in FrameMaker and Acrobat show that they are both Calibri 9 point. I have seen this message in the past, but the reflow is a big problem for this project. Is there a setting that will give me an exact FrameMaker to PDF text match? Rick ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Document reflows when saving to PDF
Hello, What is your default printer in Windows? Or are you allowing Windows to control it for you? If you don't have "Adobe PDF" configured as the default printer, then FrameMaker may get font metrics based on the printer. Are you using Windows Remote Desktop? [AKA Microsoft Terminal Services client, AKA MSTSC.exe]? Are you sharing printers between your workstations? But I suspect that your document may contain a paragraph format that still references "Type 1" [PostScript] font. You could save your FrameMaker document as MIF, and then open the MIF in a good text editor like NotePad++ to locate the 'Times' font. Alternatively, go to the FrameMaker preferences dialog Edit > Preferences; and UNtick the "remember missing font names" check box. When you reopen the document, FrameMaker will actively change any Times font references to Times New Roman. /// Simon BUCH On 24/08/2023 14:26, r...@rickquatro.com wrote: I am saving a FrameMaker document to PDF and I get this message at the Console: The "Times" Font is not available. "Times New Roman" will be used in this session. It is causing the document to reflow. The font is not Times or Times New Roman but Calibri. Querying the properties in FrameMaker and Acrobat show that they are both Calibri 9 point. I have seen this message in the past, but the reflow is a big problem for this project. Is there a setting that will give me an exact FrameMaker to PDF text match? Rick ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] Document reflows when saving to PDF
I am saving a FrameMaker document to PDF and I get this message at the Console: The "Times" Font is not available. "Times New Roman" will be used in this session. It is causing the document to reflow. The font is not Times or Times New Roman but Calibri. Querying the properties in FrameMaker and Acrobat show that they are both Calibri 9 point. I have seen this message in the past, but the reflow is a big problem for this project. Is there a setting that will give me an exact FrameMaker to PDF text match? Rick ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
