Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker
Thanks, Reng. -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Reng Winfried Sent: April 6, 2021 10:43 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker Hi Alison, FrameMaker creates PDF files via Save As PDF with its own engine. The printer is not involved. This works very well. There can be requirements that you create the PDF via Distiller, but this is also automated. You can still use Save As PDF. You do not need to print to a PostScript file. SetPrint cannot be installed (FM 2020 is 64 bit) and is not needed. There isn't any headless Distiller in FM 2020. Best regards Winfried -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of A Craig Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 8:35 PM To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' Cc: 'Jeff Coatsworth' Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker Thanks And I take it from your reply that the SetPrint issue still exists but SetPrint hasn't (yet?) been updated to handle Frame 2020... -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth Sent: April 6, 2021 11:26 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker In that case, you don't need to worry - there's an entirely new PDF generator in FM2020 & SetPrint won't work with FM2020 anymore. From: Framers on behalf of A Craig Sent: April 6, 2021 2:10 PM To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker It's the latest version. I'm sure I saw "2020" in the download title although I wasn't aware that a 2020 version was available (it's a subscription through an affiliated office in Austria). Alison -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth Sent: April 6, 2021 10:39 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker What version of FM? From: Framers < <mailto:framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf of A Craig < <mailto:acr...@shaw.ca> acr...@shaw.ca> Sent: April 6, 2021 1:36 PM To: <mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker I haven't used Frame since mid-2017 but I'm about to install it for my current job. I seem to remember that there were some issues using unstructured FrameMaker with the built-in (headless distiller?) PDF tool such that a certain checkbox had to be selected at install and Frame and Acrobat had to be installed in a particular order (I've had Acrobat installed for the last 3 years so I need to know if that will cause issues). I also remember a tiny (free?) tool called something like "Set_Print". Does that still exist and is it still necessary? It feels weird to be a Frame newby after using it for 9 years in my last job. Thanks in advance for any advice, Alison ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker
Hi Alison, FrameMaker creates PDF files via Save As PDF with its own engine. The printer is not involved. This works very well. There can be requirements that you create the PDF via Distiller, but this is also automated. You can still use Save As PDF. You do not need to print to a PostScript file. SetPrint cannot be installed (FM 2020 is 64 bit) and is not needed. There isn't any headless Distiller in FM 2020. Best regards Winfried -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of A Craig Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 8:35 PM To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' Cc: 'Jeff Coatsworth' Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker Thanks And I take it from your reply that the SetPrint issue still exists but SetPrint hasn't (yet?) been updated to handle Frame 2020... -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth Sent: April 6, 2021 11:26 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker In that case, you don't need to worry - there's an entirely new PDF generator in FM2020 & SetPrint won't work with FM2020 anymore. From: Framers on behalf of A Craig Sent: April 6, 2021 2:10 PM To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker It's the latest version. I'm sure I saw "2020" in the download title although I wasn't aware that a 2020 version was available (it's a subscription through an affiliated office in Austria). Alison -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth Sent: April 6, 2021 10:39 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker What version of FM? From: Framers < <mailto:framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf of A Craig < <mailto:acr...@shaw.ca> acr...@shaw.ca> Sent: April 6, 2021 1:36 PM To: <mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker I haven't used Frame since mid-2017 but I'm about to install it for my current job. I seem to remember that there were some issues using unstructured FrameMaker with the built-in (headless distiller?) PDF tool such that a certain checkbox had to be selected at install and Frame and Acrobat had to be installed in a particular order (I've had Acrobat installed for the last 3 years so I need to know if that will cause issues). I also remember a tiny (free?) tool called something like "Set_Print". Does that still exist and is it still necessary? It feels weird to be a Frame newby after using it for 9 years in my last job. Thanks in advance for any advice, Alison ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker
FrameMaker still uses whatever your default printer is. SetPrint and the other Sundorne Communications utilities haven't been updated in 15 years. I'm not certain the company is even in business anymore, although the website still exists. They even have a zip file with the source code, and yes, it's still downloadable. ( http://www.sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm) If this is an issue, I suggest contacting Rick Quatro or Russ Ward or Bernard Aschwanden or one of the other scripters and see if they can whip something up for you. On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 2:34 PM A Craig wrote: > Thanks > > And I take it from your reply that the SetPrint issue still exists but > SetPrint hasn't (yet?) been updated to handle Frame 2020... > > > -Original Message- > From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com] > On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth > Sent: April 6, 2021 11:26 AM > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. > > Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker > > In that case, you don't need to worry - there's an entirely new PDF > generator in FM2020 & SetPrint won't work with FM2020 anymore. > > > From: Framers > on > behalf of A Craig > Sent: April 6, 2021 2:10 PM > To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' > Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker > > It's the latest version. > > I'm sure I saw "2020" in the download title although I wasn't aware that a > 2020 version was available (it's a subscription through an affiliated > office > in Austria). > > Alison > > -Original Message- > From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com] > On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth > Sent: April 6, 2021 10:39 AM > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. > > Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker > > What version of FM? > > > > From: Framers < > <mailto:framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com > > > framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> on > behalf of A Craig < <mailto:acr...@shaw.ca> acr...@shaw.ca> > > Sent: April 6, 2021 1:36 PM > To: <mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker > > I haven't used Frame since mid-2017 but I'm about to install it for my > current job. > > I seem to remember that there were some issues using unstructured > FrameMaker > with the built-in (headless distiller?) PDF tool such that a certain > checkbox had to be selected at install and Frame and Acrobat had to be > installed in a particular order (I've had Acrobat installed for the last 3 > years so I need to know if that will cause issues). > > I also remember a tiny (free?) tool called something like "Set_Print". Does > that still exist and is it still necessary? > > It feels weird to be a Frame newby after using it for 9 years in my last > job. > > Thanks in advance for any advice, > > Alison > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to <mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> > framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at > <http://www.frameusers.com> http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > <http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/> > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > <http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com> > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to <mailto:listad...@frameusers.com> > listad...@frameusers.com > > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker
Thanks And I take it from your reply that the SetPrint issue still exists but SetPrint hasn't (yet?) been updated to handle Frame 2020... -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth Sent: April 6, 2021 11:26 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker In that case, you don't need to worry - there's an entirely new PDF generator in FM2020 & SetPrint won't work with FM2020 anymore. From: Framers on behalf of A Craig Sent: April 6, 2021 2:10 PM To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker It's the latest version. I'm sure I saw "2020" in the download title although I wasn't aware that a 2020 version was available (it's a subscription through an affiliated office in Austria). Alison -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth Sent: April 6, 2021 10:39 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker What version of FM? From: Framers < <mailto:framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf of A Craig < <mailto:acr...@shaw.ca> acr...@shaw.ca> Sent: April 6, 2021 1:36 PM To: <mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker I haven't used Frame since mid-2017 but I'm about to install it for my current job. I seem to remember that there were some issues using unstructured FrameMaker with the built-in (headless distiller?) PDF tool such that a certain checkbox had to be selected at install and Frame and Acrobat had to be installed in a particular order (I've had Acrobat installed for the last 3 years so I need to know if that will cause issues). I also remember a tiny (free?) tool called something like "Set_Print". Does that still exist and is it still necessary? It feels weird to be a Frame newby after using it for 9 years in my last job. Thanks in advance for any advice, Alison ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to <mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at <http://www.frameusers.com> http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at <http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/> http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at <http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com> http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to <mailto:listad...@frameusers.com> listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker
In that case, you don't need to worry - there's an entirely new PDF generator in FM2020 & SetPrint won't work with FM2020 anymore. From: Framers on behalf of A Craig Sent: April 6, 2021 2:10 PM To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker It's the latest version. I'm sure I saw "2020" in the download title although I wasn't aware that a 2020 version was available (it's a subscription through an affiliated office in Austria). Alison -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth Sent: April 6, 2021 10:39 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker What version of FM? From: Framers < <mailto:framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf of A Craig < <mailto:acr...@shaw.ca> acr...@shaw.ca> Sent: April 6, 2021 1:36 PM To: <mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker I haven't used Frame since mid-2017 but I'm about to install it for my current job. I seem to remember that there were some issues using unstructured FrameMaker with the built-in (headless distiller?) PDF tool such that a certain checkbox had to be selected at install and Frame and Acrobat had to be installed in a particular order (I've had Acrobat installed for the last 3 years so I need to know if that will cause issues). I also remember a tiny (free?) tool called something like "Set_Print". Does that still exist and is it still necessary? It feels weird to be a Frame newby after using it for 9 years in my last job. Thanks in advance for any advice, Alison ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to <mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at <http://www.frameusers.com> http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at <http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/> http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at <http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com> http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to <mailto:listad...@frameusers.com> listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to <mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at <http://www.frameusers.com> http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at <http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/> http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at <http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com> http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to <mailto:listad...@frameusers.com> listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker
It's the latest version. I'm sure I saw "2020" in the download title although I wasn't aware that a 2020 version was available (it's a subscription through an affiliated office in Austria). Alison -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth Sent: April 6, 2021 10:39 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker What version of FM? From: Framers < <mailto:framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf of A Craig < <mailto:acr...@shaw.ca> acr...@shaw.ca> Sent: April 6, 2021 1:36 PM To: <mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker I haven't used Frame since mid-2017 but I'm about to install it for my current job. I seem to remember that there were some issues using unstructured FrameMaker with the built-in (headless distiller?) PDF tool such that a certain checkbox had to be selected at install and Frame and Acrobat had to be installed in a particular order (I've had Acrobat installed for the last 3 years so I need to know if that will cause issues). I also remember a tiny (free?) tool called something like "Set_Print". Does that still exist and is it still necessary? It feels weird to be a Frame newby after using it for 9 years in my last job. Thanks in advance for any advice, Alison ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to <mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at <http://www.frameusers.com> http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at <http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/> http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at <http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com> http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to <mailto:listad...@frameusers.com> listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to <mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at <http://www.frameusers.com> http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at <http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/> http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at <http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com> http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to <mailto:listad...@frameusers.com> listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker
What version of FM? From: Framers on behalf of A Craig Sent: April 6, 2021 1:36 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker I haven't used Frame since mid-2017 but I'm about to install it for my current job. I seem to remember that there were some issues using unstructured FrameMaker with the built-in (headless distiller?) PDF tool such that a certain checkbox had to be selected at install and Frame and Acrobat had to be installed in a particular order (I've had Acrobat installed for the last 3 years so I need to know if that will cause issues). I also remember a tiny (free?) tool called something like "Set_Print". Does that still exist and is it still necessary? It feels weird to be a Frame newby after using it for 9 years in my last job. Thanks in advance for any advice, Alison ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
