Re: [Framers] San Serif Font?
Lots of wonderful stuff on fonts as well in The Elements of Typographic Style by Robert Bringhurst. Samples, advice, designers, foundries, terminology, candyland for font geeks like me. Patrick From: Framers On Behalf Of acr...@shaw.ca Sent: Friday, March 22, 2024 11:10 AM To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' ; tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com Subject: Re: [Framers] San Serif Font? Off topic from the original question, but I give two thumbs up to the book "Just my Type"! Alison -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain Sent: March ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd Off topic from the original question, but I give two thumbs up to the book "Just my Type"! Alison -Original Message- From: Framers mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com>> On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain Sent: March 21, 2024 7:19 PM To: Framers mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>>; tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com<mailto:tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> Subject: Re: [Framers] San Serif Font? I like Eurostile a lot? (bought it from Adobe for myself decades ago and loved the squarish look, particularly Eurostile Wide for some uses). Google recommends Orbitron as "similar" to Eurostile. However, I have not used that one yet, so please check it out yourself. In my current company, we use fonts that are likely to be public or generally available, and Google fonts tend to fit that requirement well. Some time back, our design folks chose Nunito and Montserrat from Google as our nominal sans serif "standards" for our template for presentation materials. I have not started using them yet ... My favorite for PowerPoint decks is in the Segoe family - regular and bolded Segoe UI looks very elegant (to me anyway - beauty is in the eye of the beholder, right? ??) when presented on a screen. Z P.S. You probably did not realize that you opened a Pandora's box for me by discussing fonts! ?? I am a geek in this matter - I own a printed copy of Adobe's book of their fonts from some years ago, and also own these books on fonts: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.amazon.com/Just-My-Type-About-Fonts/dp/1592407463/ref=sr_1_2?crid=R0NOZ8M8EM7G=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.NchNMphdD2-FiEIcjZ5Q0ozH5yBfBztwdrlben1DLTyqYBItlQ598x0ppw-Ru8NmJ0PWQBA-V_Ha7kWywC291EksvsnJUoYkL_7TiyYxClP6LSfEL5qmku8X94QxZc4QgRO-997lmWBF_KsDUSX3wUuvQtMWOTHBbBdMRvGXxm2w1dlItaZ27cDoXaaz2FvQuLcDAddYK_FLJwyNswNhnpCffz-7ZHXC8LIBT0AUXcE.XTtWJ6K5FPl2N_PD44p3lUZmsc7vynljyiy_qe7hNVI_tag=se=Just*My*Type=1711073475=just*my*type*2Caps*2C238=8-2__;KysrKyUl!!KwNVnqRv!BNM3t3oXro2IWrjE-0okoTosrj1om7p5A7cc9S1-IDCvSCl4CPx-kcKye8h1Eg4hpJsbwiT5capTx5lagFQ$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.amazon.com/Just-My-Type-About-Fonts/dp/1592407463/ref=sr_1_2?crid=R0NOZ8M8EM7G=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.NchNMphdD2-FiEIcjZ5Q0ozH5yBfBztwdrlben1DLTyqYBItlQ598x0ppw-Ru8NmJ0PWQBA-V_Ha7kWywC291EksvsnJUoYkL_7TiyYxClP6LSfEL5qmku8X94QxZc4QgRO-997lmWBF_KsDUSX3wUuvQtMWOTHBbBdMRvGXxm2w1dlItaZ27cDoXaaz2FvQuLcDAddYK_FLJwyNswNhnpCffz-7ZHXC8LIBT0AUXcE.XTtWJ6K5FPl2N_PD44p3lUZmsc7vynljyiy_qe7hNVI_tag=se=Just*My*Type=1711073475=just*my*type*2Caps*2C238=8-2__;KysrKyUl!!KwNVnqRv!BNM3t3oXro2IWrjE-0okoTosrj1om7p5A7cc9S1-IDCvSCl4CPx-kcKye8h1Eg4hpJsbwiT5capTx5lagFQ$> and https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.amazon.com/Why-Fonts-Matter-Sarah-Hyndman/dp/1584236310/ref=sr_1_2?crid=38PAKFEX3F62A=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.qRAZgEPI8_lVrfYxajj7Py_9NW3q9VdRbwgIpJCaMz6NpJziCb4_thVNGzaGyNL50wo4jkanh6VWQfpLe27FBGAajIGGDmn6y0Wa0qXCScBhhGy7ZxopDAEpWlhAt2wvKKArd-TFcdRqt1fL2I2afGLxRWup7v92RhqWF8ZhCDjVXo00hL04Uo3VYMzFEE6eXZkCAPoj60b6_o69KwiUNPksZYqW4MWwax1mUUo7vhylSO__ExjE4U2wUeqmDATZSE2cydcq5Bqkc62T2zTkwJOrsgONEtPD6e4aBxGLcfs.eBIWY8LAx3FyRfvZYmM0fbu8aOrm2RgxQWgiWzYJG4M_tag=se=fonts=1711073562=fonts*2Caps*2C237=8-2__;JSU!!KwNVnqRv!BNM3t3oXro2IWrjE-0okoTosrj1om7p5A7cc9S1-IDCvSCl4CPx-kcKye8h1Eg4hpJsbwiT5capT_aDtM4E$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.amazon.com/Why-Fonts-Matter-Sarah-Hyndman/dp/1584236310/ref=sr_1_2?crid=38PAKFEX3F62A=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.qRAZgEPI8_lVrfYxajj7Py_9NW3q9VdRbwgIpJCaMz6NpJziCb4_thVNGzaGyNL50wo4jkanh6VWQfpLe27FBGAajIGGDmn6y0Wa0qXCScBhhGy7ZxopDAEpWlhAt2wvKKArd-TFcdRqt1fL2I2afGLxRWup7v92RhqWF8ZhCDjVXo00hL04Uo3VYMzFEE6eXZkCAPoj60b6_o69KwiUNPksZYqW4MWwax1mUUo7vhylSO__ExjE4U2wUeqmDATZSE2cydcq5Bqkc62T2zTkwJOrsgONEtPD6e4aBxGLcfs.eBIWY8LAx3FyRfvZYmM0fbu8aOrm2RgxQWgiWzYJG4M_tag=se=fonts=1711073562=fonts*2Caps*2C237=8-2__;JSU!!KwNVnqRv!BNM3t3oXro2IWrjE-0okoTosrj1om7p5A7cc9S1-IDCvSCl4CPx-kcKye8h1Eg4hpJsbwiT5capT_aDtM4E$> From: Framers mailto:framers-bounces+syed.hosain=aeris@lists.frameusers.com>> on behalf of Tammy Van Boening mailto:tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2024 07:02 AM To
Re: [Framers] San Serif Font?
Off topic from the original question, but I give two thumbs up to the book "Just my Type"! Alison -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain Sent: March 21, 2024 7:19 PM To: Framers ; tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com Subject: Re: [Framers] San Serif Font? I like Eurostile a lot? (bought it from Adobe for myself decades ago and loved the squarish look, particularly Eurostile Wide for some uses). Google recommends Orbitron as "similar" to Eurostile. However, I have not used that one yet, so please check it out yourself. In my current company, we use fonts that are likely to be public or generally available, and Google fonts tend to fit that requirement well. Some time back, our design folks chose Nunito and Montserrat from Google as our nominal sans serif "standards" for our template for presentation materials. I have not started using them yet ... My favorite for PowerPoint decks is in the Segoe family - regular and bolded Segoe UI looks very elegant (to me anyway - beauty is in the eye of the beholder, right? ??) when presented on a screen. Z P.S. You probably did not realize that you opened a Pandora's box for me by discussing fonts! ?? I am a geek in this matter - I own a printed copy of Adobe's book of their fonts from some years ago, and also own these books on fonts: https://www.amazon.com/Just-My-Type-About-Fonts/dp/1592407463/ref=sr_1_2?crid=R0NOZ8M8EM7G=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.NchNMphdD2-FiEIcjZ5Q0ozH5yBfBztwdrlben1DLTyqYBItlQ598x0ppw-Ru8NmJ0PWQBA-V_Ha7kWywC291EksvsnJUoYkL_7TiyYxClP6LSfEL5qmku8X94QxZc4QgRO-997lmWBF_KsDUSX3wUuvQtMWOTHBbBdMRvGXxm2w1dlItaZ27cDoXaaz2FvQuLcDAddYK_FLJwyNswNhnpCffz-7ZHXC8LIBT0AUXcE.XTtWJ6K5FPl2N_PD44p3lUZmsc7vynljyiy_qe7hNVI_tag=se=Just+My+Type=1711073475=just+my+type%2Caps%2C238=8-2 and https://www.amazon.com/Why-Fonts-Matter-Sarah-Hyndman/dp/1584236310/ref=sr_1_2?crid=38PAKFEX3F62A=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.qRAZgEPI8_lVrfYxajj7Py_9NW3q9VdRbwgIpJCaMz6NpJziCb4_thVNGzaGyNL50wo4jkanh6VWQfpLe27FBGAajIGGDmn6y0Wa0qXCScBhhGy7ZxopDAEpWlhAt2wvKKArd-TFcdRqt1fL2I2afGLxRWup7v92RhqWF8ZhCDjVXo00hL04Uo3VYMzFEE6eXZkCAPoj60b6_o69KwiUNPksZYqW4MWwax1mUUo7vhylSO__ExjE4U2wUeqmDATZSE2cydcq5Bqkc62T2zTkwJOrsgONEtPD6e4aBxGLcfs.eBIWY8LAx3FyRfvZYmM0fbu8aOrm2RgxQWgiWzYJG4M_tag=se=fonts=1711073562=fonts%2Caps%2C237=8-2 From: Framers on behalf of Tammy Van Boening Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2024 07:02 AM To: Framers Subject: [Framers] San Serif Font? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. OK all, I am doing a major overhaul on an existing template for a client. I very much like the San serif fonts of Eurostile or Roboto, but I really don t want to break my cardinal rule of using proprietary fonts that have to be embedded in the final PDF. I really would like to be able to use a font that comes standard with windows, but which font, in your opinion, that comes standard with windows would be the closest to either of these two fonts? My client saw a template that I was working on for another project and really commented that they liked the look of the Roboto font and then I showed him one with the EUROSTILE font and they like that one just as much. That said, I don t wanna leave my client with having to deal with fonts in their source files. Thanks! Tammy Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com This communication contains Aeris Confidential Information. If it has been sent to you in error, please reply to advise the sender of the error and then immediately delete this message. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] San Serif Font?
I like Eurostile a lot (bought it from Adobe for myself decades ago and loved the squarish look, particularly Eurostile Wide for some uses). Google recommends Orbitron as "similar" to Eurostile. However, I have not used that one yet, so please check it out yourself. In my current company, we use fonts that are likely to be public or generally available, and Google fonts tend to fit that requirement well. Some time back, our design folks chose Nunito and Montserrat from Google as our nominal sans serif "standards" for our template for presentation materials. I have not started using them yet ... My favorite for PowerPoint decks is in the Segoe family - regular and bolded Segoe UI looks very elegant (to me anyway - beauty is in the eye of the beholder, right? ) when presented on a screen. Z P.S. You probably did not realize that you opened a Pandora's box for me by discussing fonts! I am a geek in this matter - I own a printed copy of Adobe's book of their fonts from some years ago, and also own these books on fonts: https://www.amazon.com/Just-My-Type-About-Fonts/dp/1592407463/ref=sr_1_2?crid=R0NOZ8M8EM7G=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.NchNMphdD2-FiEIcjZ5Q0ozH5yBfBztwdrlben1DLTyqYBItlQ598x0ppw-Ru8NmJ0PWQBA-V_Ha7kWywC291EksvsnJUoYkL_7TiyYxClP6LSfEL5qmku8X94QxZc4QgRO-997lmWBF_KsDUSX3wUuvQtMWOTHBbBdMRvGXxm2w1dlItaZ27cDoXaaz2FvQuLcDAddYK_FLJwyNswNhnpCffz-7ZHXC8LIBT0AUXcE.XTtWJ6K5FPl2N_PD44p3lUZmsc7vynljyiy_qe7hNVI_tag=se=Just+My+Type=1711073475=just+my+type%2Caps%2C238=8-2 and https://www.amazon.com/Why-Fonts-Matter-Sarah-Hyndman/dp/1584236310/ref=sr_1_2?crid=38PAKFEX3F62A=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.qRAZgEPI8_lVrfYxajj7Py_9NW3q9VdRbwgIpJCaMz6NpJziCb4_thVNGzaGyNL50wo4jkanh6VWQfpLe27FBGAajIGGDmn6y0Wa0qXCScBhhGy7ZxopDAEpWlhAt2wvKKArd-TFcdRqt1fL2I2afGLxRWup7v92RhqWF8ZhCDjVXo00hL04Uo3VYMzFEE6eXZkCAPoj60b6_o69KwiUNPksZYqW4MWwax1mUUo7vhylSO__ExjE4U2wUeqmDATZSE2cydcq5Bqkc62T2zTkwJOrsgONEtPD6e4aBxGLcfs.eBIWY8LAx3FyRfvZYmM0fbu8aOrm2RgxQWgiWzYJG4M_tag=se=fonts=1711073562=fonts%2Caps%2C237=8-2 From: Framers on behalf of Tammy Van Boening Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2024 07:02 AM To: Framers Subject: [Framers] San Serif Font? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. OK all, I am doing a major overhaul on an existing template for a client. I very much like the San serif fonts of Eurostile or Roboto, but I really don’t want to break my cardinal rule of using proprietary fonts that have to be embedded in the final PDF. I really would like to be able to use a font that comes standard with windows, but which font, in your opinion, that comes standard with windows would be the closest to either of these two fonts? My client saw a template that I was working on for another project and really commented that they liked the look of the Roboto font and then I showed him one with the EUROSTILE font and they like that one just as much. That said, I don’t wanna leave my client with having to deal with fonts in their source files. Thanks! Tammy Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com This communication contains Aeris Confidential Information. If it has been sent to you in error, please reply to advise the sender of the error and then immediately delete this message. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] San Serif Font?
OK, this list just rocks. Thank you for all the font information and seeing as how Roboto is a free Google font, I am sticking with it. TVB Tammy Van Boening Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com > -Original Message- > From: Framers bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf > Of Tammy Van Boening > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2024 3:51 PM > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. > > Subject: Re: [Framers] San Serif Font? > > Thank you! > > Tammy Van Boening > Principal/Owner > Spectrum Writing, LLC > www.spectrumwritingllc.com > 303-840-1755 > > > -Original Message- > > From: Framers > bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On > Behalf > > Of Tori Muir > > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2024 1:56 PM > > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > > Subject: Re: [Framers] San Serif Font? > > > > We use google fonts almost exclusively these days -- Free, many have a > > wide range of weights, and they read well on screen. Added bonus: none > > of the wonky "available in application X but not in application Y" > > issues that Adobe fonts seem to be plagued by (on MacOS at least). > > > > Tori Muir > > tm...@spot-on-creative.com | 650.430.8674 www.spot-on-creative.com > > <http://www.spot-on-creative.com> > > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at > http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail- > archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers- > frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] San Serif Font?
Thank you! Tammy Van Boening Principal/Owner Spectrum Writing, LLC www.spectrumwritingllc.com 303-840-1755 > -Original Message- > From: Framers bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf > Of Tori Muir > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2024 1:56 PM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: [Framers] San Serif Font? > > We use google fonts almost exclusively these days -- Free, many have a wide > range of weights, and they read well on screen. Added bonus: none of the > wonky "available in application X but not in application Y" issues that Adobe > fonts seem to be plagued by (on MacOS at least). > > Tori Muir > tm...@spot-on-creative.com | 650.430.8674 www.spot-on-creative.com > <http://www.spot-on-creative.com> > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] San Serif Font?
We use google fonts almost exclusively these days -- Free, many have a wide range of weights, and they read well on screen. Added bonus: none of the wonky "available in application X but not in application Y" issues that Adobe fonts seem to be plagued by (on MacOS at least). Tori Muir tm...@spot-on-creative.com | 650.430.8674 www.spot-on-creative.com <http://www.spot-on-creative.com> On 3/21/24, 9:02 AM, "Framers on behalf of Edwards, Patrick H" wrote: You could use something like Adobe's Source Sans that has a ton of variants: https://fonts.adobe.com/fonts/source-sans See the Licensing tab on this page. Best, Patrick Patrick H. Edwards * Supervisor of Production International Ocean Discovery Program * JOIDES Resolution Science Operator Texas A University * 1000 Discovery Drive * College Station TX 77845-9547 979 845 1172 * edwa...@iodp.tamu.edu<mailto:edwa...@iodp.tamu.edu> From: Framers On Behalf Of Simon BUCH Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2024 10:17 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. ; Tammy Van Boening Subject: Re: [Framers] San Serif Font? Hello Tammy, "Standard" with Windows? I find that Microsoft will make changes to their Windows and Office offerings as they want to, and Adobe tends to supply few and fewer fonts with every product release. For example, Microsoft recently changed ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd Hello Tammy, "Standard" with Windows? I find that Microsoft will make changes to their Windows and Office offerings as they want to, and Adobe tends to supply few and fewer fonts with every product release. For example, Microsoft recently changed the default Office font from Calibri to Aptos. Fonts that come with Windows are not the same as fonts that are supplied when Microsoft Office is installed. One good example of this is "Arial". When some versions of Office were installed, Arial got a "Unicode MS" variant which had many more font glyphs than the original Arial. This would sometimes cause problems when Word documents were shared with users who didn't have the extra fonts installed. I would suggest to specify a font the customer wants, regardless of what Microsoft specifies. This way you/customer can choose which fonts to use, but also determine under which license the fonts are available. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Roboto/about?query=roboto__;!!KwNVnqRv!DYs1ePN8HurXYOPW-pEt8jqcHIAe89n0fW2HEeWZvDJQo3bSWNf6eigcQgkYE9fomFWJ6vAVeB7pM_UIS6nqWxg$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/fonts.google.com/specimen/Roboto/about?query=roboto__;!!KwNVnqRv!DYs1ePN8HurXYOPW-pEt8jqcHIAe89n0fW2HEeWZvDJQo3bSWNf6eigcQgkYE9fomFWJ6vAVeB7pM_UIS6nqWxg$> Regards /// Simon BUCH On 21/03/2024 14:02, Tammy Van Boening wrote: > OK all, > I am doing a major overhaul on an existing template for a client. I very much like the San serif fonts of Eurostile or Roboto, but I really don't want to break my cardinal rule of using proprietary fonts that have to be embedded in the final PDF. I really would like to be able to use a font that comes standard with windows, but which font, in your opinion, that comes standard with windows would be the closest to either of these two fonts? > > My client saw a template that I was working on for another project and really commented that they liked the look of the Roboto font and then I showed him one with the EUROSTILE font and they like that one just as much. That said, I don't wanna leave my client with having to deal with fonts in their source files. > Thanks! > Tammy > > Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> > Visit the list's homepage at https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.frameusers.com__;!!KwNVnqRv!DYs1ePN8HurXYOPW-pEt8jqcHIAe89n0fW2HEeWZvDJQo3bSWNf6eigcQgkYE9fomFWJ6vAVeB7pM_UIvj3qips$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.frameusers.com__;!!KwNVnqRv!DYs1ePN8HurXYOPW-pEt8jqcHIAe89n0fW2HEeWZvDJQo3bSWNf6eigcQgkYE9fomFWJ6vAVeB7pM_UIvj3qips$> > Archives located at https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.mail-archive.com/framers*40lists.frameusers.com/__;JQ!!KwNVnqRv!DYs1ePN8HurXYOPW-pEt8jqcHIAe89n0fW2HEeWZvDJQo3bSWNf6eigcQgkYE9fomFWJ6vAVeB7pM_UIJeNEq9g$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.mail-archive.com/framers*40lists.frameusers.com/__;JQ!!KwNVnqRv!DYs1ePN8HurXYOPW-pEt8
Re: [Framers] San Serif Font?
You could use something like Adobe's Source Sans that has a ton of variants: https://fonts.adobe.com/fonts/source-sans See the Licensing tab on this page. Best, Patrick Patrick H. Edwards * Supervisor of Production International Ocean Discovery Program * JOIDES Resolution Science Operator Texas A University * 1000 Discovery Drive * College Station TX 77845-9547 979 845 1172 * edwa...@iodp.tamu.edu<mailto:edwa...@iodp.tamu.edu> From: Framers On Behalf Of Simon BUCH Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2024 10:17 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. ; Tammy Van Boening Subject: Re: [Framers] San Serif Font? Hello Tammy, "Standard" with Windows? I find that Microsoft will make changes to their Windows and Office offerings as they want to, and Adobe tends to supply few and fewer fonts with every product release. For example, Microsoft recently changed ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd Hello Tammy, "Standard" with Windows? I find that Microsoft will make changes to their Windows and Office offerings as they want to, and Adobe tends to supply few and fewer fonts with every product release. For example, Microsoft recently changed the default Office font from Calibri to Aptos. Fonts that come with Windows are not the same as fonts that are supplied when Microsoft Office is installed. One good example of this is "Arial". When some versions of Office were installed, Arial got a "Unicode MS" variant which had many more font glyphs than the original Arial. This would sometimes cause problems when Word documents were shared with users who didn't have the extra fonts installed. I would suggest to specify a font the customer wants, regardless of what Microsoft specifies. This way you/customer can choose which fonts to use, but also determine under which license the fonts are available. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Roboto/about?query=roboto__;!!KwNVnqRv!DYs1ePN8HurXYOPW-pEt8jqcHIAe89n0fW2HEeWZvDJQo3bSWNf6eigcQgkYE9fomFWJ6vAVeB7pM_UIS6nqWxg$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/fonts.google.com/specimen/Roboto/about?query=roboto__;!!KwNVnqRv!DYs1ePN8HurXYOPW-pEt8jqcHIAe89n0fW2HEeWZvDJQo3bSWNf6eigcQgkYE9fomFWJ6vAVeB7pM_UIS6nqWxg$> Regards /// Simon BUCH On 21/03/2024 14:02, Tammy Van Boening wrote: > OK all, > I am doing a major overhaul on an existing template for a client. I very much > like the San serif fonts of Eurostile or Roboto, but I really don't want to > break my cardinal rule of using proprietary fonts that have to be embedded in > the final PDF. I really would like to be able to use a font that comes > standard with windows, but which font, in your opinion, that comes standard > with windows would be the closest to either of these two fonts? > > My client saw a template that I was working on for another project and really > commented that they liked the look of the Roboto font and then I showed him > one with the EUROSTILE font and they like that one just as much. That said, I > don't wanna leave my client with having to deal with fonts in their source > files. > Thanks! > Tammy > > Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to > framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> > Visit the list's homepage at > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.frameusers.com__;!!KwNVnqRv!DYs1ePN8HurXYOPW-pEt8jqcHIAe89n0fW2HEeWZvDJQo3bSWNf6eigcQgkYE9fomFWJ6vAVeB7pM_UIvj3qips$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.frameusers.com__;!!KwNVnqRv!DYs1ePN8HurXYOPW-pEt8jqcHIAe89n0fW2HEeWZvDJQo3bSWNf6eigcQgkYE9fomFWJ6vAVeB7pM_UIvj3qips$> > Archives located at > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.mail-archive.com/framers*40lists.frameusers.com/__;JQ!!KwNVnqRv!DYs1ePN8HurXYOPW-pEt8jqcHIAe89n0fW2HEeWZvDJQo3bSWNf6eigcQgkYE9fomFWJ6vAVeB7pM_UIJeNEq9g$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.mail-archive.com/framers*40lists.frameusers.com/__;JQ!!KwNVnqRv!DYs1ePN8HurXYOPW-pEt8jqcHIAe89n0fW2HEeWZvDJQo3bSWNf6eigcQgkYE9fomFWJ6vAVeB7pM_UIJeNEq9g$> > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com__;!!KwNVnqRv!DYs1ePN8HurXYOPW-pEt8jqcHIAe89n0fW2HEeWZvDJQo3bSWNf6eigcQgkYE9fomFWJ6vAVeB7pM_UIsZrb1ic$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com__;!!KwNVnqRv!DYs1ePN8HurXYOPW-pEt8jqcHIAe89n0fW2HEeWZvDJQo3bSWNf6eigcQgkYE9fomFWJ6vAVeB7pM_UIsZrb1ic$> > Send administrative questions to > listad...@frameusers.com<mailto:listad...@frameusers.com> __
Re: [Framers] San Serif Font?
Hello Tammy, "Standard" with Windows? I find that Microsoft will make changes to their Windows and Office offerings as they want to, and Adobe tends to supply few and fewer fonts with every product release. For example, Microsoft recently changed the default Office font from Calibri to Aptos. Fonts that come with Windows are not the same as fonts that are supplied when Microsoft Office is installed. One good example of this is "Arial". When some versions of Office were installed, Arial got a "Unicode MS" variant which had many more font glyphs than the original Arial. This would sometimes cause problems when Word documents were shared with users who didn't have the extra fonts installed. I would suggest to specify a font the customer wants, regardless of what Microsoft specifies. This way you/customer can choose which fonts to use, but also determine under which license the fonts are available. https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Roboto/about?query=roboto Regards /// Simon BUCH On 21/03/2024 14:02, Tammy Van Boening wrote: OK all, I am doing a major overhaul on an existing template for a client. I very much like the San serif fonts of Eurostile or Roboto, but I really don’t want to break my cardinal rule of using proprietary fonts that have to be embedded in the final PDF. I really would like to be able to use a font that comes standard with windows, but which font, in your opinion, that comes standard with windows would be the closest to either of these two fonts? My client saw a template that I was working on for another project and really commented that they liked the look of the Roboto font and then I showed him one with the EUROSTILE font and they like that one just as much. That said, I don’t wanna leave my client with having to deal with fonts in their source files. Thanks! Tammy Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
