Re: calcru: time went backwards

2008-04-15 Thread Scott Robbins
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 07:59:40AM -0500, Larry Rosenman wrote:
 I thought this was gone, but on a kernel from Saturday I'm seeing a bunch of
 these:

This one is covered in the FAQ in the troubleshooting section, 5.19.  


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Re: Upgrading to 7.0 - stupid requirements

2008-03-19 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 03:46:52PM -0400, Kevin K wrote:
  That said: I do understand what you're saying, and yes, I can see why
  you would want that.  It does make sense, and it's reasonable.  It's
  just hard to achieve.  I don't think other mainstream OSes (e.g. Linux)
  offer this ability either, though.  Am I wrong?
 
 Redhat's up2date/yum ? I'm not 100% certain though.

RedHat, some Debian versions and others aimed at the server market will
have their precompiled binaries with reasonably sane defaults.  (Or else
with everything, including the kitchen sink, thrown in.)

The downside is that the server based ones, (RH, CentOS, etc.,) are
going to have older versions of packages.  This makes sense of course.
Much of the time, they'll simply concentrate on security updates and
have a 5 year EOL (possibly longer, possibly shorter, but around that.)

Desktop---well, things like Ubuntu and Fedora usually have major
upgrades every 6 months or so.  Fedora at least, recommends doing a
complete reinstall, though usually, updating via their yum package
manager will work.  It doesn't always. 

Arch Linux and some others have a rolling release type thing, where
incremental upgrades take place all the time, usually without major
effect.  They're smaller, and like the BSDs tend to be better at letting
people know--(things similar to our HEADSUP type posts.)  Fedora in
contrast, might make a decision that will break sound for 30 percent of
the users and the only way to find out will be to dig through their
(rather slow) bugzilla, only to find that the developer doesn't consider
it a bug.  (That's not an insult aimed at the developer--they have their
reasons which are often quite logical, but anyway...)


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Re: make world broken for RELENG_6

2007-03-31 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 03:47:19PM +0200, Stefan 'Steve' Tell wrote:
 * Rick C. Petty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Is anyone else experiencing build problems with the latest RELENG_6 (sup'd
  as of 2007-Mar-31 0800 UTC)?
 
 Jip, same here.

Tinderbox is showing it in the place--ipfw.  

In a way that's a good thing, usually, when I see a problem I'm having
on Tinderbox, it gets fixed in a few hours.  

Amazing how much we take for granted--thank you developers, for all your
hard work. (That's not saying anyone posting here is taking things for
granted--I just mean that we, in general,  see something broken 
on Tinderbox and expect that it will be fixed quickly.)


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Re: Background process

2007-03-08 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 09:59:16AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Hello,
 
 I connect to my freebsd box via ssh using putty from a WindowsXP
 workstation, I want to run a process on the freebsd box, then close my ssh
 session (closing putty) while keeping the process running.
 
 So I run my process like this : # myprogram , then I exit the shell.
 
 
 nohup ?
 
 ed
 

There is always the screen program /usr/ports/sysutils/screen which is
ideal for things like this.  Although it's not a builtin like nohup, it
is (imho) more flexible.  

(To be honest, I've used screen for so long, if I had to use nohup I'd
have to look up the syntax)

I think it's something like nohup sh -c $(your_command)  but I could be
wrong. 

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Re: just cvsuped and compiled/installed world and kernel. why is uname -a still saying 6.2-prerelease?

2007-01-15 Thread Scott Robbins
On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 09:11:56AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
 If memory serves me right, Jayel Villamin wrote:
  tag used is RELENG_6.
  
  cvsup was completed at around 3am Monday New York time. 6.2 has been
  released hours before so I thought uname -a should display something
  else? like 6-stable or at least something other than
  6.2-prerelease?
 
 Make sure you have at least revision 1.69.2.14 of
 src/sys/conf/newvers.sh.  Otherwise the change probably just didn't
 propagate yet to whichever cvsup mirror you're using.

I've found the quickest way to figure out if I got the right version is
to do, after downloading

egrep REVISION|BRANCH /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh




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Re: just cvsuped and compiled/installed world and kernel. why is uname -a still saying 6.2-prerelease?

2007-01-15 Thread Scott Robbins
On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 09:24:05PM +0100, Pietro Cerutti wrote:
 On 1/15/07, Scott Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've found the quickest way to figure out if I got the right version is
 to do, after downloading
 
 egrep REVISION|BRANCH /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh
 
 egrep ^REVISION|^BRANCH /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh
 
 to get rid of the useless lines
 
You're right, that's much better.  Thank you.

 


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Re: Debugging a dump - need alternative?

2006-11-09 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 06:12:04PM -1000, Robert Marella wrote:
 I am sorry if this is a repost but I never saw it hit the list.

That's because you use gmail.  They consider it a feature though many
consider it a bug--if you post to a mailing list, to, as they say,
avoid clutter in your inbox that message won't go to your inbox.  (So,
you won't see this one either till my reply hits the list. 


Your original post did make it to the list.  I'm posting this back to
the list because many folks don't realize this about gmail.


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Re: Error applying libarchive.patch

2006-11-08 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 05:49:20PM +1100, Simon Biber wrote:
 I tried installing FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-06:24.libarchive
 
 The patch failed. Am I doing something wrong? Is it not designed for my 
 system?
 

I had the same problem as Simon on 6.1 boxes.  

 |+++ lib/libarchive/archive_read_support_compression_none.c 2 Nov 2006 
 05:17:28 -
 --
 Patching file lib/libarchive/archive_read_support_compression_none.c using 
 Plan 
 A...
 Hunk #1 failed at 257.
 Hunk #2 failed at 289.
 Hunk #3 failed at 307.
 Hunk #4 failed at 320.
 4 out of 4 hunks failed--saving rejects to 
 lib/libarchive/archive_read_support_compression_none.c.rej
 done
 

It worked on 2 boxes running 6.2-PRERELEASE


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Re: ARRRRGH! Guys, who's breaking -STABLE's GMIRROR code?!

2006-09-10 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 08:11:22PM +, Michael Abbott wrote:
 You can track changes to a particular release - say by using
 RELENG_6_1 rather than RELENG_6. In which case, would you still
 say you are tracking STABLE?
 If I track RELENG_6 (once 6.0-RELEASE has gone out) then I'm by definition
 tracking -STABLE.
 
 Damn, I'm confused now.  Let me try and get this straight:


Perhaps this might help?

http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/release.html


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Re: Upgrading i386 box from 5.5-STABLE to 6.1-STABLE

2006-06-22 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 08:42:57AM -0600, Scott Long wrote:
 Doug Poland wrote:


 I am following the handbook's The Canonical Way to Update Your System
 and have sucessfully cvsup'd RELENG_6 and run make buildworld.
 The problem I'm having is during make buildkernel.  This is the error:
 /usr/src/sys/dev/mii/dcphy.c: In function `dcphy_attach':
 /usr/src/sys/dev/mii/dcphy.c:172: error: `DC_PCI_CSID' undeclared (first 
 use in this function)
 /usr/src/sys/dev/mii/dcphy.c:172: error: (Each undeclared identifier is 
 reported only once
 /usr/src/sys/dev/mii/dcphy.c:172: error: for each function it appears 
 in.)
 *** Error code 1
 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC.

 
 The problem is fixed now.  Doing a cvsup should get you going again.
 
 Scott


Thanks for your quick work--I tried an upgrade this morning and it went
without problems.  Thank you.



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Re: Upgrading i386 box from 5.5-STABLE to 6.1-STABLE

2006-06-21 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 09:41:18PM -0500, Doug Poland wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm in the middle of an attempt to upgrade an i386 box from 5.5-STABLE
 to 6.1-STABLE.  Just in case it's apropos, the box was recently upgraded
 from 5.2.1-RELEASE to 5.5-STABLE.
 
 I am following the handbook's The Canonical Way to Update Your System
 and have sucessfully cvsup'd RELENG_6 and run make buildworld.
 
 The problem I'm having is during make buildkernel.  This is the error:
 
 
 /usr/src/sys/dev/mii/dcphy.c: In function `dcphy_attach':
 /usr/src/sys/dev/mii/dcphy.c:172: error: `DC_PCI_CSID' undeclared (first use 
 in this function)
 /usr/src/sys/dev/mii/dcphy.c:172: error: (Each undeclared identifier is 
 reported only once
 /usr/src/sys/dev/mii/dcphy.c:172: error: for each function it appears in.)
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/src.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/src.


I just ran into the same problem,  upgrading a 6.1 box that was last
upgraded a few weeks ago.  

I hadn't posted because I was hoping to test another box tomorrow to see
if it was just that one machine, nor had I had time to do any serious
troubleshooting.

Not that this helps, but at least you know you're not alone, and the
problem isn't necessarily limited to a 5.x-6.x upgrade.


 
 I've read /usr/src/UPDATING, google'd and searched the web but to no avail.  
 Any help would be appreciated.

I don't think we've missed anything in UPDATING (but I've been wrong
about that before.)  :)


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Re: Upgrading i386 box from 5.5-STABLE to 6.1-STABLE

2006-06-21 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 08:07:12PM -0700, Vye Wilson wrote:
 Hey,
 
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GIGAKERNEL.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/src.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/src.
 
 Here is a diff of my kernel from GENERIC
 
 diff GIGAKERNEL GENERIC
 30,36d29
  # Firewall Options
  options IPFILTER  # IPFilter support
  options IPFILTER_LOG  # IPFilter logging support
  options IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK# Block all packets by default
 
 
  options   QUOTA   # QUOTA!
 
 Thanks in advance

I should have added that mine is a standard single processor i386
architecture, and that after I first got the error with a custom kernel,
I got the same error using GENERIC. 


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Re: internal compiler error: segmentation fault: 11

2006-05-23 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 09:03:06PM -0400, Dave wrote:
 Hello,
I'm trying to compile 6.0-stable on a release box, prior to upgrade. I've 
 tried several times and all end with an internal compiler error: segmentation 
 fault: 11. And then i'm told to submit a bug report. My problem is when this 
 occurs it's not always at the same spot or the same file. One time it even 
 core 
 dumped, though only once.


Unfortunately, it's often indicative of hardware failure.  See

http://www.freebsd.org./doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/troubleshoot.html#SIGNAL11

It's the classic hardware indicator, dying at random points in the
build. 

Good luck.  Hardware troubleshooting is often a major pain in the neck.  


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Re: help ith burncd (Input/output error, 6.1-RC, plextor PX-740a)

2006-04-11 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 06:49:02PM -0700, George Hartzell wrote:
 
 I have a new system which includes a Plextor PX-740a DVD+-R/RW CD-R/RW
 drive attached to an Asus A8V-MX motherboard.
 
 When I try to use burncd to burn a cd, it writes all of the data, says
 fixating CD, please wait.. and then reports
 
   burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCFIXATE): Input/output error
 
 Oddly enough, the CD seems to be usable.
 
 I can successfully burn the same file if I use cdrecord.
 
 The system was cvsup-ed a couple of days ago, and the kernel config is
 the example SMP file plus device atapicam (the error also happened
 before adding that device, but cdrecord needed it).
 
 I saw this before in the 6.0 days with older hardware and just assumed
 that the drive was wonky.
 
 Is it a known problem?


I don't know if it's known, but I have the identical issue with a
plextor CDRW drive.  A few others have had it too--it gives that error,
but the CD is ok.  (There was one other fellow who had the issue, don't
remember if it was a Plextor, but in his case, he got the error after 3
or 4 seconds and the CD wasn't successfully burned.)

I remember googling for it several months ago, but didn't find any
answers.  

 
 Is it worth pursuing?

I didn't find it so. I guess this is one of those things where I
think, gee I wish someone would fix this but can't see filling out a
PR where the how to reproduce is, Come to my job and try to burn a CD
on this one machine.  I suspect such a report might not get
preferential treatment.  :)

I don't know if it's a Plextor issue either, I seem to remember people
with other drives having the same problem.  Of the two machines where I
burn CDs, the Plextor one is the one with the problem, the other
machine, with some no name drive does't have it.


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Re: Is mount_smbfs broken in 6.1-PRERELEASE?

2006-03-30 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 01:18:51PM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
 Anyone know if mount_smbfs is broken in 6.1, I'm trying to run this:
 
 mount_smbfs -I 192.168.1.2 //[EMAIL PROTECTED]/music2 /mnt/network/music/
 
 And then it asks for my password, I type it in, and then I get this error:
 
 mount_smbfs: unable to open connection: syserr = Authentication error
 
 I've had this same problem on another 6.1 box too... I can run this
 same command on a 6.0-RELEASE box, right next to the 6.1 box, on the
 same network etc. without problems. What gives? Did I forget to setup
 something on the new 6.1 boxes or is mount_smbfs broken, IIRC I didn't
 do anything special to get mount_smbfs working on the 6.0 box?


Not broken per se.  Hrrm, I see a mention of this in CURRENT's UPDATING
but not in 6.1's.  

I ~think~ you might have to include 

options   NETSMBCRYPTO 

and rebuild your kernel.  I believe that in CURRENT, you simply have to
kldload smbfs (but on my CURRENT box I had no need of mounting an NTFS
share, so I don't know).  Here is the entry in CURRENT's UPDATING.



20060305:
The NETSMBCRYPTO kernel option has been retired because its
functionality is always included in NETSMB and smbfs.ko now.



I've lost track of whether the discussion was on the CURRENT or STABLE
list, and had thought that it was fixed in both.   I'm only posting this
rather unhelpful information in case no one with a better memory or more
knowledge sees it.  At any rate, on my PRERELEASE boxen, the problem was
fixed by adding the NETSMBCRYPTO option to the kernel. 

You could try kldload-ing smbfs first to see if it helps.  Check the
archives of STABLE and CURRENT for this month, the dicussion was on one
of them.  

I repeat, I'm only posting this in case no one with more knowledge of
the situation sees your post. 




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Re: devfs on /my/jail/dev ...

2006-03-28 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 11:18:21PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
 
 I'm missing something here ... I've looked in /etc/defaults/devfs.conf, and 
 found that ruleset 4 is what I want for a jail ... so, I issue:
 
 devfs -m /vm/.t19/dev ruleset 4
 
 but its not doing anything:


If I understand, you want the devfs ruleset for jails, the more or less
pre-built one. 

This is what worked for me.  First, I name the jail with an arbitrary
name in /etc/rc.conf, for example

jail_list=myjail
Then, I have a line
jail_myjail_devfs_ruleset=devfs_rules_jail

(Or you can use ez_jail from ports which does it for you.)

So, I think what you want, at least when you run it from rc.conf would
be devfs_rules_jail


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Re: Data transfer from one HD to another

2006-03-26 Thread Scott Robbins
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 Hi,
 Is there an EASY method to transfer the partitions from an old hard disk
 to a new one?
 

This one is actually in the FAQ. 


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NEW-HUGE-DISK


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Re: Switch to using rc.d for local packages is premature for RELENG_6

2006-03-22 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 01:35:24PM -0500, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 08:23:40PM -0800, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
  Hi guys,
  
  As part of testing how well some of our products work with latest 
  RELENG_6, I have make a new build and found that lot of important 
  services (for example PostgreSQL, Apache) doesn't start up (despite 
  having respective xxx_enable entries in /etc/rc.conf) when installed 
  from the freshly updated ports tree onto a clean, freshly updated 
  RELENG_6 system. This is very bad, considering how close to release are 
  we and how much FreeBSD users rely on those services to work OOB.
 
 Did you e.g. neglect to mergemaster?  This really does work for others.

The really stupid question (only because it happened to me, but I'm
stupid).  You're not running them in a jail, are you?  In that case, one
has to add early_late_divider=NETWORKING to the jail's rc.conf.  
(At least that fixed it for me, thanks to Doug B. who was 
nice enough to not point out that had I looked at the rc.conf 
man page, I could have found the solution myself.)




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Re: Recent 6.1-PRE: burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCFIXATE): Input/output error

2006-03-15 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 12:51:50PM -0800, David Wolfskill wrote:
 I'm running:
 
 
 I just tried it again, using a different brand of media, and also got:
 
 localhost(6.1-P)[22] sudo burncd -s max -f /dev/acd0 data 
 6.1-BETA4-i386-disc1.iso fixate
 Password:
 next writeable LBA 0
 writing from file 6.1-BETA4-i386-disc1.iso size 454082 KB
 written this track 454082 KB (100%) total 454082 KB
 fixating CD, please wait..
 burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCFIXATE): Input/output error
 localhost(6.1-P)[23] 
 
 There was a fair amount of time -- around 15 - 20 seconds -- between the
 fixating CD, please wait.. message and the whine, during which there
 was activity involving the CD drive.
 
 Am I doing something stupid here?

In my case, the CD burns without problem however, I get that error.  
Googling found me a few other people with a similar issue.  Have you
tried the CD afterwords to see if it works anyway?  

Out of curiosity, is it a Plextor drive, I think everyone who had a
problem was running into it with Plextors.  

Some people, like myself, only get the annoying error message and
everything is fine, others find that it doesn't work at all.



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Re: -stable make world: ERROR: Required audit group is missing, see /usr/src/UPDATING

2006-03-11 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 04:50:05PM -0500, Kim Culhan wrote:
 Subject says it all.. nothing in UPDATING regarding audit group.
 
 Appears to have been in the process of linking sshd
 
 This src is RELENG_6 cvsup'd ~1930 UTC this date
 
 Any help is greatly appreciated

Heh, however, there is, at the end, something about running mergemaster
- -p before doing make installworld.   That's the solution. 

In fairness, many folks often skip mergemaster -p without ill effect
till something like this happens. 

There have been many posts about this.  One could argue back and forth
or submit a patch for UPDATING.  The pro side of adding it is that there
have been a lot of posts similar to this and it is considered a server
O/S not a hobbyist O/S, and busy sysadmins who have been updating for a
long time and not bitten by ignoring mergemaster -p (I forget the last
time it caught a lot of people--was it with the authpf?--in a long time,
should probably be reminded by a note in UPDATING.   


The con side is that if you're updating to a PRERELEASE, you're more a
tester and/or developer as it's probably not a good idea to update to it
on a production server.

Having said this, I can smugly say that I wasn't bitten by it, because I
learned my lesson the last time, and have a little installworld.sh
script that runs mergemaster -p before doing installworld.  I'm also too
lazy to submit a patch for UPDATING, and will just say, Hey Warner or
someone, you oughta put a note about it in there. 

All whimsicality aside, this sort of thing is the reason that it really
is better to not skip mergemaster -p before doing installworld--if
there's nothing for it to do, it only takes a minute, even on a slower
machine.


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Re: prerelease

2006-03-08 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 04:24:44PM -0500, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 01:51:57PM -0600, Sam Stein wrote:
  So prerelease is stable now...? Why exactly..
 
 Read the handbook.


An explanation that some people have found helpful is available at

http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/release.html




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Re: sendmail_enable=NO

2005-12-31 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Sat, Dec 31, 2005 at 10:46:37PM +, Rob MacGregor wrote:
 On Saturday, December 31, 2005 10:38 PM when we last met our heroes,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  was heard to say:
  Isn't this supposed to tell FreeBSD not to start up the
  sendmail daemon processes?
 
 You want NONE.  This isn't documented in the defaults file, but is apparent 
 when
 you look at the startup script.  I've a feeling it's documented somewhere 
 else,
 but can't remember right now.

I'm almost sure it was somewhere in /usr/src/UPDATING, but I just did a
quick search (through CURRENT's UPDATING) and don't see it.  It was
quite awhile ago though.


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Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

2005-12-16 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 02:50:05AM -0800, Rob wrote:
 Gary Kline wrote:
  On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 12:04:05AM -0700, Scott Long
 wrote:
  
 All,
 
 The following is the approximate schedule for
 FreeBSD releases in 2006:
 
  Sounds like an ambitious schedule...  All  my FBSD
 servers 
  are at least up to 5.3; my laptop is happy at 5.4. 
 I have
  what I believe to be a rationalquestion.  
 
 A me too here for 5-Stable.
 
 I have a test PC, that was running 5-Stable using an
 additional swapfile to extend swap space. Never any
 problems at all with 5.
 
 After upgrading to 6-stable, I got regular hang-ups of
 the system (endless loop?) when swapspace is used
 extensively. Never happened with 5.

I have to add my vote for 6, as did someone else in an earlier post. 
Like some others, I always found 5.x a bit slower than 4.x  (No
benchmarks, completely subjective.)  From the very beginning, I've found
6.x to be stable and quickly moved some non-critical servers to it.

After testing, we moved the more critical servers to it as well, and
have been quite happy withe results.  

Again, completely subjective, but from the beginning 6.x seemed faster
and more responsive than 5.x


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Difference between RELEASE, STABLE, CURRENT (was (no subject) )

2005-11-28 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 10:40:55PM -0500, Matthew Tomsa wrote:
 What is the difference between RELEASE versions, STABLE versions, and
 CURRENT versions?  I've done some reading but I'm still a bit confused.
 Thanks.
 

One of the best explanations that I've seen can be found on
freebsdforums.org

http://www.freebsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?t=36652highlight=RELEASE+CURRENT+STABLE

(The final post, by the gentleman who uses the name phoenix)


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Re: Strange warning while upgrading

2005-11-06 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Sun, Nov 06, 2005 at 08:14:01PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 06, 2005 at 08:01:53PM +0100, Guillaume R. wrote:
  Today I decided to upgrade my box from 5.4 to 6.O. So I change the right
  option in my stable-supfile and go through the process of upgrading.
  I can't build the world, and the error message was:
  /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.compat.mk, line 36: warning: NOGAMES is deprecated
  in favor of NO_GAMES.
 
 This is probably in your /etc/make.conf file. Changes NOGAMES to
 NO_GAMES to get rid of the warning. See make.conf(5).

It's also in /usr/src/UPDATING.  (I don't know if it was in 5.x or not,
I don't have a 5.x box here to check.)  See the entry for 20041221




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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 Released

2005-11-04 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 04:33:10PM -0200, Renato Botelho wrote:
 On 11/4/05, Scott Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  It is my great pleasure and privilege to announce the availability of
  FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE.  This release is the next step in delivering the
  high performance and enterprise features that have been under
  development in the FreeBSD 5.x series for that last several years.
  Some of the many changes since 5.4 include:
 
 I'm having some troubles with locale after upgrade to RELENG_6.
 
 one example, perl warning me about my locale:


There were some issues with a library upgrade at some point, it was
awhile ago, and the details are hazy.

(Please note that I am a different Scott and far less knowledgeable than
Mr. Long, but I have a need for Japanese and got bitten by this.)

There is a port, /usr/misc/localedata that was designed to fix this
problem.  In your shell's rc file you add

PATH_LOCALE=/usr/local/share/compat/locale; export PATH_LOCAL

(That's for a Bourne style shell, I am not sure of the csh syntax.)

That should solve the problem.  As your ports are gradually upgraded,
the problem should disappear.  (Or you can always do a portupgrade -af,
which might not be a bad idea, as some other libraries have changed.)


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Re: burncd input output error

2005-09-17 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 03:03:44PM +0200, Andreas Klemm wrote:
 2 problems with FreeBSD 5.4 stable:
 
 - burncd has strange exit status when reading ISO file from stdin
   according to manual page possible: 
[...]
gunzip -c file.iso.gz | burncd -f /dev/acd0 data - fixate
[...]
 
 - burncd leaves cdrom in a way that CD cannot be mounted
   after burning, one has to open and re-close CD tray manually
   before one is able to mount the frshly burned CD.
 
 *** trying to burn ISO file

I've run into this with one CD burner, a Plextor, IIRC.  I did some
cursory googling, other folks had the problem, no solutions posted.

I just (as you seem to be doing) work around it, as the CDs burned
without problems.  

I never put much effort into solving it.  FWIW, it happened no matter
which machine had the CD burner, through 5.x and 6.x.  (I haven't put
that burner in a box running CURRENT.)  

I just made a little script to open and close the cd tray (using the
older version of eject, as the newer version lacks the -t to close the
tray option) but you can do the same with cdcontrol using the eject and
close options.

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Re: Incorrect super block--help!

2005-08-29 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 10:16:54PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hey, newb BSDer here with a question
  
  I've got a brand new 5.4 install.  I'm trying to mount the CDROM.  As root, 
  I type:
  
  mount /dev/acd0 /cdrom
  
  and I get incorrect super block error message after a bit of CD activity, 
  and no mount.  I've tried a CD-RW I burned (the FreeBSD install disk I 
  installed from) and an old copy of SimCity 2000, neither worked, same error 
  message.
  
  I'm stuck.  Any ideas?


The real stupid question (brought on by another post that suggested
using -t 9660 or whatever it is, I just use mount_cd9660)

Is it shown in /etc/fstab--that is, do you have a line in /etc/fstab
something like

/dev/acd0   /cdrom  cd9660 ro, noauto0 0


The answer is probably yes, but if not, that would be the issue and
you'd need to use mount_cd9660 rather than mount.


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Re: HELP --a question on LOCALE

2005-07-16 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 11:19:53PM +0800, Li Ruijiang wrote:
 I am a chinese user,and today I upgraded my FreeBSD system from 5.3 release 
 to 6.0
 all is successful except that I can not input chinese.
 The XIM needs two environment variables:LANG and LC_ALL
 so I export them to zh_CN.GBK in my .xinitrc file
 when the X was started I tested it using echo $LANGand echo $LC_ALL.I got 
 the right response.
 
 But when when I type locale, I got a response like this:
   LANG=zh_CN.GBK
   LC_CTYPE=C
   LC_COLLATE=C
   LC_TIME=C
   LC_NUMERIC=C
   LC_MONETARY=C
   LC_MESSAGES=C
   LC_ALL=zh_CN.GBK
 
 
 So LC_CTYPE and LC_* were not modified
 
 then I export LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.GBK
 when I echo $LC_CTYPE it said zh_CN.GBK
 when I locale the result did not change at all.
 
 I have installed localedata-5.4 and set PATH_LOCALE
 when I locale -a
 the result contains zh_CN.GBK
 
 What should I do???
 Thank you very much.


I had a few problems like this with Japanese.  Ok, you've installed
/usr/ports/misc/localedata and set your PATH_LOCALE.  

Sometimes it seems to have to do with libc.5.so and libc.6.so

One thing I've done, but only in emergencies, and I commented it out
quickly afterwards was insert

libc.5.so   libc.6.so

at the top of /etc/libmap.conf

I didn't break anything, but it seems there is a large possibility for
breakage.

The other thing that will fix it, eventually, is as ports are upgraded,
gradually, they'll all use libc.6.so which I ~think~ will fix the
problem.  (It did for me.)

For example, I input Japanese in aterm.  If I did
ldd `which aterm` 
I'd get back some answers showing me it used libc.5.so.  Doing
portupgrade -f aterm fixed it with that application.

The best way is probably to upgrade all ports that are used in inputting
Chinese, time consuming though it is.


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Re: FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available

2005-07-15 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 04:27:44PM +0100, Yann Golanski wrote:
 Quoth Scott Long on Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 09:18:50 -0600
  Part of the purpose of moving quickly on to RELENG_6 is so that the 
  migration work for users from 5.x to 6.x is very small.  6.x is really
  just an evolutionary step from 5.x, not the life-altering revolutionary 
  step that 4.x-5.x was.  It should be quite easy to deploy and maintain
  5.x and 6.x machines side-by-side and migrate them as the need arises.
  We don't want people to be stranded on RELENG_5 like they were with
  RELENG_4.  6.x offers everything of 5.x, but with better performance
  and (hopefully) better stability.  If you're thinking about evaluating
  5.x, give 6.0 a try also.
 
 Does that mean that a cvsup with *default tag=RELENG_6 and a rebuilt
 of the world will work smoothly?  Would it work at all?  Is it even
 recommended?

I did that without problem.  There are some issues with libc.5.so and
libc.6.so mostly (I think) having to do with perl.  My only real issue
was Japanese input, fixed by upgrading a few ports.  

Everything else seemed to work without trouble.   




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Re: FYI - RELENG_6 branch has been created.

2005-07-14 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 09:49:01PM -0700, Jon Dama wrote:
 BTW,
 
 Going from RELENG5 to RELENG6 requires an
 rm -rf /usr/obj
 
 This isn't too surprising, but its worth a note if anyone is making a
 migration document.
 
 Thanks,
   Jon


Shouldn't make cleanworld take care of that?  When I upgraded, that was
all I did and I had no problems.   

Speaking of notes, the make cleanworld hasn't made it into UPDATING,
which it probably should.  (I remember one late night install on a test
box, where rather than CD'ing into /usr/obj, I'd cd'd into /usr, and was 
using a prompt that didn't automatically give me my working directory.
I was a bit upset when I then typed

cd /usr/src

and got the response that there was no such file or directory, then
typed pwd to see that I was in /usr.  Oops.  :)

While on the subject, I wonder if it would be worth adding to UPDATING,
the ln -s aj /etc/malloc.conf to turn off malloc debugging.   


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Re: FYI - RELENG_6 branch has been created

2005-07-12 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 02:28:33PM +0200, Michael Schuh wrote:

Scott wrote


 The other problem that will possibly affect more people is that
SpamAssassin stopped working properly.  This isn't a server, simply a
   workstation, using getmail and maildrop.  I would get the following
  error

   Delivery error (command maildrop 65199 error (0, razor2 check skipped: No
  such file or directory IO::Socket::INET: connect: Operation not
 permitted ...propagated at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/Mail/
 SpamAssassin/Dns.pm line 447.))


 Hello Scott,
 
 i run into same Problem with Spamassassin and Perl v5.8.7.
 After a backport to 5.8.6_2 all thins run fine.
 I have no relly good reason found why the behavior is, but i have many hint's
 found
 that say's that this is a generally io-problem with perl v5.8.7.
 
 So that i have made a entry in my sup/refuse that i not running anymore into
 that Problem
 
 best regards
 
 Michael


Now, oddly enough--it seems that my problem turned out to be not
SpamAssassin but some typo in my firewall that was blocking razor agent.
I looked at it 30 times and couldn't find it, so eventually gave up,
copied over a working firewall from another box and edited that.  

So, in my case, it turned out to not be SpamAssassin. (The reason I'd
thought it was fixed last night was because the mail was going to a
different box, where mail isn't filtered, and it was so late by that
time I was punchy.)

Hindsight is 20/20 and I should have realized this with the not
permitted part of my error.


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Re: FYI - RELENG_6 branch has been created.

2005-07-11 Thread Scott Robbins
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I ran into two issues so far.  This is a box that has something like 300
programs on it that I use to test various and sundry things.

Japanese input (using kinput2 and canna) stopped working.  Last time, I
was able to fix this with the new port /usr/ports/misc/localedata, but
in this case I wasn't.  (I think this has to do with the changes in
LC_CTYPE).  However, reinstalling the two xterms that I use with
Japanese, rxvt-devel and ja-aterm fixed this problem.  (The risky fix is
to add a libc.5.so   libc.6.so to /etc/libmap.conf.  This fixes it too,
but I suspect risks breaking many other things.)

The other problem that will possibly affect more people is that
SpamAssassin stopped working properly.  This isn't a server, simply a
workstation, using getmail and maildrop.  I would get the following
error

Delivery error (command maildrop 65199 error (0, razor2 check skipped: No such 
file or directory IO::Socket::INET: connect: Operation not permitted 
...propagated at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/Mail/SpamAssassin/Dns.pm 
line 447.))
  msg 1/1 (1422 bytes), delivery error (command maildrop 65199 error (0, razor2 
check skipped: No such file or directory IO::Socket::INET: connect: Operation 
not permitted ...propagated at 
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/Mail/SpamAssassin/Dns.pm line 447.))
  1 messages retrieved, 0 skipped


Thinking that it was a simple perl thing and perhaps also connected with
the libc.5 and 6, I first did a portupgrade -fRr of SpamAssassin.  This
didn't fix the problem.  Eventually (and I don't have enough knowledge
to know why this worked) I did another portupgrade -f of perl, then did
a pkg_delete of SpamAssassin and all B and R deps save for perl.  I then
reinstalled SpamAssassin with the port reinstalling the deps.  Then it
worked.

Unfortunately, I don't have another machine to use as a test box, but if
this problem does affect many people, it would defintely hinder some
mail server upgrades.  :)

I repeat however, the box in question has close to 300 programs on it,
so that we can see what problems we might run into with a variety of
servers.  


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Re: How to set polling for printer upon startup

2005-07-08 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 02:53:25PM -0500, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:
 My printer doesn't work very well unless I type
 lpcontrol -p
 What is the correct way to make this happen when the computer first boots 
 up 
 - is there some setting in device.hints or something I can put in the kernel 
 config so that it defaults to this?

Well, I have a very complex and esoteric script that I load.  However,
perhaps with years of study, you can duplicate it.

#!/bin/sh
lpcontrol -e

(Which is what I need in my case for a similar problem)

Just put it into /usr/local/etc/rc.d and make it executable, changing
the -p to an -e of course.  Call it whatever you wish, but be sure to
add an sh extension, e.g. call it lptcontrol.sh

That should do it.


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Re: [Fwd: Re: unable to compile 5.4-p3 kernel]

2005-06-29 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 04:56:08PM -0700, Janet Sullivan wrote:
 
 Colin Percival wrote:
 Janet Sullivan wrote:
 I am unable to compile a 5.4p3 kernel.  I get the following error:
 /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_input.c: In function `tcp_dooptions':
 /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_input.c:2706: warning: implicit declaration of
 function `TSTMP_GT'
 /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_input.c:2706: warning: nested extern
 declaration of `TSTMP_GT'
  What version of /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_var.h do you have on that system?
 
 1.109.2.5 2005/03/14 08:08:19 maxim
 
 I've had the same exact error on two machines now, both freshly cvsup'd
 to 5.4p3.


This seems to have something to do with the tcp.patch that was released.
I tried patching the kernel and got previously applied patch detected,
chose to go ahead anyway to see what would happen and got the same stop
error.   

I haven't tried a fresh cvsup yet, but I'm guessing I'll run into the
same thing.

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Re: unable to compile 5.4-p3 kernel

2005-06-29 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 05:30:27PM -0700, Colin Percival wrote:
 Janet Sullivan wrote:
  Janet Sullivan wrote:
  I just re-cvsup'd, and got a new
  version of src/sys/netinet/tcp_seq.h - might that have been the problem?
  
  Answer to self:  Yes, it looks like that was the problem.  The updated
  tcp_seq.h has made the kernel compile much happier.
 
 Yeah, it looks like the mirrors managed to update at exactly the wrong time
 and got one patch but not the other.  Fortunately, this doesn't happen very
 often.


Yes, doing a cvsup and rebuild from cvsup2) just finished without
problems.


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Re: how can I use all the plugins in mozilla

2005-06-09 Thread Scott Robbins
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 Maher Mohamed wrote:
  i instaled the mozilla and the linuxpluginwrapper port
  but i still get this error messages
  
  
   LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library
  /usr/compat/linux/usr/local/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so
  [Shared object libc.so.6 not found, required by nppdf.so]
  
  why is that? 
  and what is exactly that i should do.
  I am using FreeBSD 5.4 Stable
  thank you 
 Have you edited /etc/libmap.conf? It is needed for linuxpluginwrapper.


Even if one uses the sample config files, you will still get that error
unles you comment out the lines for Adobe reader.

You can, however, use it with Firefox at least, easily enough, by
choosing in the downloads section to open pdf files with acroread. 

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Re: What to use to get remote display from a amd64 machine?

2005-06-06 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:33:40AM +0800, Jiawei Ye wrote:
 On 6/7/05, Daniel O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  That works here.
  
 --SNIP--
  failed to set default font path
  '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/'
  Fatal server error:
  could not open default font 'fixed'
  



 VNC has it's own startup script and hard coded fontpath. You need to
 manually edit them. It does not read Xorg/XFree86 config files :(
 

I've always used tightvnc.  Upon running the command 

vncserver

the first time it requests a password.  After that, it Just Works (TM) 
However, if I want a different WM for the vnc session, or various
other changes, I do have to edit a few files that it places in my $HOME
directory. 


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Re: jdk security vuln?

2005-05-31 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 08:22:00PM +0100, Jayton Garnett wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have recently installed freebsd 5.4 and tried many times to install
 the native freebsd jdk (1.4  1.5) and wont install as  there is a
 security vulnerability in the linux jdk's and other jdk's.
 
 How do I go about compiling these now? I only need it for openoffice and
 unfortunately there are no packages for openoffice and dont want to
 install it without java as i am not sure what the out come will be :-s

You should be able to install openoffice with 

make -DWITHOUT_JAVA install clean

(However, I think openoffice has its own vulnerabilities, but that might
only be the devel version.)

To override the vulnerability (hopefully, you have examined what it is
and decided you can live with it) do

make -DDISABLE_VULNERABILITIES install clean

However, if you install native java-1.4, note that you will have to
install linux-sun-jdk14 first.  That one has a pkg-message that you
should read before starting the whole thing.  

I have a page that briefly covers it at

http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/FreeBSD5x.html 

It doesn't go into all the details of installing java, but gives a few
of the problems, letting you know what to expect.  (Though I don't cover
the vulnerability issue, that happened later) :)


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Re: Performance of 4.x vs 5.x (Re: Lifetime of FreeBSD branches)

2005-05-24 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 12:07:35PM -0700, Freddie Cash wrote:
 
 There are two NOTES files for each CPU architecture.
 
 One is for the CPU architecture dependent items and is located 
 at /usr/src/sys/arch/conf/NOTES  Just replace arch with the CPU 
 architecture (i386, amd64, etc).
 
 The other is for items that apply to all CPU architectures, and is located 
 at /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES.
 
 You have to read both.  The PREEMPTION option is in the second file above.


Judging from the forums and various other things, it seems that a lot of
people aren't aware of the second NOTES file.  (Of course, you can do
make LINT while in arch/conf, which I blush to admit, is what I did
before I realized the existance of the second NOTES file.  :)


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Re: Performance of 4.x vs 5.x (Re: Lifetime of FreeBSD branches)

2005-05-24 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 12:27:21PM -0700, Freddie Cash wrote:
 On May 24, 2005 12:14 pm, Scott Robbins wrote:
 
   The other is for items that apply to all CPU architectures, and is
   located at /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES.
 
   You have to read both.  The PREEMPTION option is in the second file
   above.
 
  Judging from the forums and various other things, it seems that a lot of
  people aren't aware of the second NOTES file.  (Of course, you can do
  make LINT while in arch/conf, which I blush to admit, is what I did
  before I realized the existance of the second NOTES file.  :)
 
 From the top of /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/NOTES:
 
 # NOTES -- Lines that can be cut/pasted into kernel and hints configs.
 #
 # This file contains machine dependent kernel configuration notes.  For
 # machine independent notes, look in /sys/conf/NOTES.



 
 Like they say, doesn't matter how good the documentation is if nobody reads 
 it fully.  :)


True, but in general, having gotten used to LINT, usually, I would just
check notes for syntax--for instance, I might see something about
PREEMPTION and just do (while in i386/conf) grep PREEMPT NOTES.  

What's the old Calvin and Hobbes line? Have you looked at the manual?
WHAT?  Do I look like a sissy?  

You're right of course, Fred, but in honesty, it's been awhile since I
read NOTES (or LINT in the old days) top to bottom.  Heh, I was more
careful when I was a complete novice--err, not that I'm any sort of
expert now.   :)

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Re: Performance of 4.x vs 5.x (Re: Lifetime of FreeBSD branches)

2005-05-24 Thread Scott Robbins
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  True, but in general, having gotten used to LINT, usually, I would just
  check notes for syntax--for instance, I might see something about
  PREEMPTION and just do (while in i386/conf) grep PREEMPT NOTES.  
 
 Don't forget sys/conf/NOTES, either.  [which includes PREEMPTION,
 albeit without any useful info]

Sorry, perhaps this wasn't clear, I must have snipped too much--that's
what we were discussing, the fact that many people miss sys/conf/NOTES.
:)


 

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Re: CUPDS reboot the whole system

2005-05-17 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 01:59:09PM +0300, Todor Dragnev wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Before a couple of days ago I started /usr/local/sbin/cupsd manualy from
 console. When I press CTRL+C to interrupt a program, the system change
 runlevel and going to reboot. This was on FreeBSD V5.3, today I
 installed fresh new 5.4 but the problem is the same.
 
 cups-base-1.1.23.0_3
 
I've never had that problem with CUPS.  However, I always start and stop
it from the script it installs in /usr/local/etc/rc.d.  (It installs
cups.sh.sample, I believe, you have to rename it, then it can be started
with /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cups.sh start |stop| restart. Also, I believe
you have to type the full path to the shell, regardless of where you are
on the system, but I haven't tested that in a long time.)

HTH

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Re: kernel panics in recent RELENG_5

2005-05-06 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 05:05:47PM +0200, Alexander S. Usov wrote:
 Thomas-Martin Seck wrote:
 
  * Alexander S. Usov [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
  It look that something was broken in the last few days in
  RELENG_5 branch. I am getting reproducible panics by pressing
  almost any key while system is booting or is in shutdown.
  Once it is up -- it works mostly fine.
  Also I noted that the keyboard was not working on my laptop
  while in the booting phase -- so after I managed to get a second
  panic doing fsck, I was unable to do anything in single-user mode.
  The only working keys I found were ScrollLock/Pause and
  Ctrl-Alt-Del :) Howewer rebooting it with acpi turned off I managed
  to get it working.


I can confirm this part.  A moderately vanilla Gateway machine, when
upgraded this morning, would not respond in single user mode.  It did
respond to ctl+alt+del, I rebooted into normal mode to finish with
installworld and mergemaster.  I tried again rebooting into single user
mode with the same result, no keyboard response save for ctl+alt+del.

(No RAID, no SCSI, just a workstation.  I can post my kernel config if
it will help, but the only things that are even a bit out of the
ordinary are that I have SCHED_ULE and PREEMPTION.)



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Re: Uprading to 5.X from 4.X

2005-04-24 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 11:52:59AM +, Iain Dooley wrote:
 
 
 
 
 maybe i'll hold off for a little while. it's such a pain having to wait for 
 everything to build from source. kde takes forever, so you leave the house 
 but when you come back there is one of those configuration options screens 
 for some obscure package with bunch of options like Enable Lib GSSD 
 Compatibility that mean absolutely nothing to me. meanwhile i can't use my 
 PC.

You can usually avoid that with make -DBATCH=yes.  With portupgrade it
would be portupgrade -m -DBATCH=yes.

Usually, that will, if there are options, choose the defaults, which are
reasonable.  You can put BATCH=yes in /etc/make.conf (see
/etc/defaults/make.conf) but of course, what happens then is that you
install something where you ~really~ didn't want the defaults.  :)



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Re: grub on 5.4

2005-04-22 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Sat, Apr 23, 2005 at 12:19:22AM +0100, Dick Davies wrote:

 
 Wow, that's a bit messed up - I need to boot off a different disk before I 
 can write to the MBR? Someone mentioned a GEOM quirk, is that what's stopping
 me doing it from within freebsd?
 
 I wonder why boot0cfg doesn't have the same problem?
  
  You may create a bootable grub floppy with
  $ cd /boot/grub
  $ dd if=stage1 of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 count=1
  $ dd if=stage2 of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 seek=1
 
 Thanks, but if it's a freebsd thing I'll just install the MBR from one of the
 other OSes - do you know if I need our patched grub for the mbr to grok ufs2,
 or will a leenux one work?


The usual one will work.  

title FreeBSD
root (hd0,1,a)
kernel /boot/loader

If that doesn't work, you can do the chainloader +1 thingie, but it
shouldn't be necessary--somewhere in either the early 5.x or at some
point in CURRENT, the above syntax wasn't working with older versions of
GRUB.  Howevr, the current heh GRUB will work with the above syntax.
(It had to do with older versions not recognizing the ufs2, but the
issue has been fixed.)


HTH

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Re: Newbie Question About System Update

2005-04-19 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 09:36:57PM +0200, K?vesd?n G?bor wrote:
 
 This is generally not the case.  Unix lets you continue to access a 
 file after it has been deleted, so long as the process hangs on to a 
 file descriptor. This lets you replace programs in use, without 
 running into the same problems that platforms like Windows have.
 
 Though this is true, I discourage You to upgrade a running system. I 
 tried to upgarde 5.3-RELEASE to 5-STABLE without booting to single user 
 mode. I simply sent a TERM signal to most of the processes, and tried to 
 make installworld. There was some error messages, the system crashed and 
 didn't boot anymore...

There are a couple of servers that I have to upgrade remotely when
necessary.  They are active during the working day and almost unused at
night--I just make sure the users know to not leave any files (two are
samba servers as well as doing other things) open if I'm planning an
upgrade--I'm fortunate that my users work with me, and there are only
two who have to be reminded, and neither gives me an argument about it.

I'm never happy about doing it that way, but what I do is after the
reboot, shut down the various daemons and do the install world and
mergemaster.  (This is only after testing the builds on a sacrificial
workstation).  

(And of course the obvious--DO NOT shut down the sshd daemon.)  :)  

Ok, everyone who has NEVER ever made that mistake (or locked themself
out with a firewall rule, accidentally putting it into effect before
testing) raise their hand.  :)


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Re: Newbie Question About System Update

2005-04-19 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 04:32:54PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:



(I don't think this original quote is Warner's, but I lost the poster's
name somewhere)

 
  That being said, I quite often do installworld on running systems because I
  have no way to go to single-user mode.  It almost always works well enough
  for my purposes, but I don't want anyone to think that it's OK to do this,
  as it's not guaranteed to work, and will most likely result in some programs
  not being updated (such as the examples in the previous paragraphs).
 




 It usually works well enough most of the time.  I do it all the time
 on my development machines.  The problem is well enough and most of
 the time.
 
 Warner


This is why, as I said, I test it on a sacrificial box--that box has
almost identical hardware to the remote servers.   I'm fortunate to have
that setup though. 



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Re: updating from 5.2.1 to RELENG_5

2005-04-01 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 11:20:09AM +0100, Phil Brennan wrote:
 As per subject, I need to do this urgently, but with minimum downtime.
 Will it be ok just to cvsup, rebuild kernel and world, mergemaster,
 (etc) like any normal update? Or do I have to do a reinstall? Any help
 appreciated.

There were some problems with this particular upgrade (though I've
forgotten if it all took place after 5.3BETA7 or even before that. 

Also, many of the issues were in ports rather than base system, having
to do with some updates to gcc and libpthreads.   

I have a page where I mentioned this towards the bottom at 

http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/cvsup.html


(the page is dated, but it does cover that particular upgrade, which is
one reason I leave it up.)

You also might want to take a look around Freebsdforums.org, there were
a few threads on it.


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Re: file /usr/src/etc/rc.d/network is not installed

2005-03-27 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 08:56:52PM +0200, Martin Jakob wrote:
 Hi Max,
 
 thanks for your answer.
 
   my network reconfiguration demands. Yet, bravely copying it to /etc/rc.d
   and executing it, does not work. It produces warnings like:
   WARNING: $flushroutes is not set properly - see rc.conf(5). or
   WARNING: $auto_ifconfig is not set properly - see rc.conf(5)
   and the default route is not set.
   (yeah, i read rc.conf as advised, but i still have no clue where to set
   this variables).


No, they aren't really mentioned there.  After seeing your first post, I
played with it as well.  

I had to google for it, seems to be more of a NetBSD thang.  :)


I also got an error about rtsol.  Both seem to be ipv6 things.  The
rtsol was mentioned in the NetBSD man rc.conf.  


So, anyway, you're not alone.  :)

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Re: Apache compile prob in portupgrade

2005-03-22 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 07:59:08PM +1000, Warren wrote:
 Not sure whats going on .. but if anyone can help us, much appreciated.
 =
 
 ===  Building for apache-2.1.4
 Making all in srclib
 Making all in pcre
 -I/usr/include -I/usr/ports/www/apache21/work/httpd-2.1.4-alpha/modules/ssl 





 -I/usr/ports/www/apache21/work/httpd-2.1.4-alpha/modules/dav/main 
 -prefer-non-pic -static -c maketables.c  touch maketables.lo
 libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration
 libtool: compile: specify a tag with `--tag'
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache21/work/httpd-2.1.4-alpha/srclib/pcre.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache21/work/httpd-2.1.4-alpha/srclib/pcre.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache21/work/httpd-2.1.4-alpha/srclib.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache21/work/httpd-2.1.4-alpha.
 *** Error code 1



I had similar problems.

In the end, I did make clean, and did portupgrade -Rr apache and it
automagically fixed itself.  

(Originally I just did portupgrade apache, as portversion showed
everything else to be up to date, and was getting the same error you are
showing here.)

HTH, though not sure it will.



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Re: kdelibs portupgrade prob

2005-03-22 Thread Scott Robbins
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  err .. all i did was what i usually do to upgrade a pkg and run cvsup and
  then portupgrade .. has always worked in the past, wasnt aware of needing 
  something special in this upgrade of KDE
 
 Checking UPDATING should *always* be the step between cvsup and portupgrade!
 

Now that you've posted that, you realize you're doomed to forget next
time there's an update that affects you. 

Sigh, some people's kids.



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Re: kdelibs portupgrade prob

2005-03-22 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 09:53:26AM -0500, Scott Robbins wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 03:27:10PM +0100, Godwin Stewart wrote:
  
  Checking UPDATING should *always* be the step between cvsup and portupgrade!
  
 
 Now that you've posted that, you realize you're doomed to forget next
 time there's an update that affects you. 
 
 Sigh, some people's kids.


Apologies to the list, I hit L out of habit (with this list) instead of
r--Godwin is an old friend and my lecture was tongue in cheek.


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Re: Flash player sound solution

2005-03-15 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 03:15:15PM +0100, Andre Albsmeier wrote:
 On Sun, 13-Mar-2005 at 17:12:43 -0500, Scott Robbins wrote:
  On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 06:50:01PM +, Chris Hodgins wrote:
   Scott Robbins wrote:
   
   
   There are a few pages out there that will crash FreeBSD native firefox
   with linuxpluginwrapper, at least.   The problem doesn't occur in Linux,
   and most of the time, these sites will work with FreeBSD's linux-opera
   (and the linuxpluginwrapper).
   
   
   http://www.tvguide.com 
  
  Chris, and others, I apologize, hang is what they do and I shouldn't
  have loosely used the word crash.
  
 
 What happens if you (temporarely) remove /dev/dsp and try again?
 You will get no sound but I assume firefox won't hang anymore...
 
   -Andre


No, Just tried it.  It still hangs at www.tvguide.com  (I didn't try
espn).


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Re: make installkernel fails

2005-03-14 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 02:39:46PM +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 02:33:45PM +0100, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote:
  Hello!
  
  Stop in /usr/src.
  *** Error code 1
  
  Stop in /usr/src.
  -
  acpica seems to be a file, not a directory.

  
 
 
 I ran into that a few days ago too.
 I just did a 'rm -f usr/include/dev/acpica' and then proceeded with
 'make installkernel' and 'make installworld' as usual, after which
 things seemed to work fine.


With some of us, (there's been a few posts on this) the stop was during 
make installworld.

However, it seems to have been fixed as of Sunday or so.  (I've
forgotten the exact date now).


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Re: Flash player sound solution

2005-03-13 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 05:58:48PM +0100, Andre Albsmeier wrote:
 On Sat, 12-Mar-2005 at 22:21:35 -0800, Joshua Tinnin wrote:
  On Saturday 12 March 2005 05:42 am, James McNaughton 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   The Problem:
  
   Using native Mozilla and
   linuxpluginwrapper/linux-flashplugin (on 4.10-stable
   et al) to view flash content results in no sound and
   occasional Mozilla freezes.
  
   The Solution:
  
   Run esd.
  
 
 Speaking of flashplugin crashes: There is some flash content
 out there which makes my firefox crash (not due to sound but
 for some other reasons). One example is:
 
 http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=5961030392
 
 I'd like to know if other people also experience crashes
 when viewing this page. The flash content isn't obvious
 to find: When the page has opened search for the string
 Setzen Sie die Andale Gallery. Directly above is the
 flash part. I can only view this page when disabling
 the linux-flashplugin :-(

That page worked for me, but...


There are a few pages out there that will crash FreeBSD native firefox
with linuxpluginwrapper, at least.   The problem doesn't occur in Linux,
and most of the time, these sites will work with FreeBSD's linux-opera
(and the linuxpluginwrapper).


http://www.tvguide.com 
http://www.espn.com 

are two examples that always crash it for me, and apparently for most
poeple on BSD forums.


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Re: Flash player sound solution

2005-03-13 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 06:50:01PM +, Chris Hodgins wrote:
 Scott Robbins wrote:
 
 
 There are a few pages out there that will crash FreeBSD native firefox
 with linuxpluginwrapper, at least.   The problem doesn't occur in Linux,
 and most of the time, these sites will work with FreeBSD's linux-opera
 (and the linuxpluginwrapper).
 
 
 http://www.tvguide.com 
 http://www.espn.com 
 
 are two examples that always crash it for me, and apparently for most
 poeple on BSD forums.
 
 
 
 Interesting.  Both of those sites hang but don't crash as such.  Wierd.


Chris, and others, I apologize, hang is what they do and I shouldn't
have loosely used the word crash.

What happens is (again, judging from some threads on freebsdforums, to
everyone who tries ) is that if one opens the site, it'll begin to load
and finally freeze, to the point, at least on my machine, where the only
way to stop it is to find the PID and kill it.  


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Re: installworld fails (5.4-PRE) on acpica

2005-03-11 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Fri, Mar 11, 2005 at 02:23:24AM -0500, epilogue wrote:
  
  I deleted the FILE acpica and re-ran installworld. The directory
  acpica was then created.
 
 worked here as well.  thanks.

Here too.  Though Mezz's post on the 4th or 5th indicated that he saw a
commit that should have fixed it, I had the same problem last night.

A quick recap for those who run into this.

After cvsup-ing and doing buildworld, buildkernel installkernel, during
make installworld, you get a stop  error about not being able to cd to
/usr/include/dev/acpica.  

This is because /usr/include/dev/acpica is a file, not a directory.
Just delete /usr/include/dev/acpica before running make installworld 
and it will work. 

(To see if the problem is going to occur or not, see if
/usr/include/dev/acpica is a directory or a file--if it's a directory,
you're fine, if it's a file, delete it before running make
installworld.)


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Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites.

2005-03-03 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 08:50:34AM -0500, Michael Metzger wrote:
 
 My solution was to use the linuxpluginwrapper
 
 then I had to copy out 
 /usr/share/examples/linuxpluginwrapper/libmap.conf
 
 to 
 
 /etc/libmap.conf
 
 and now I have firefox with flash support.

 Also, I have native java working in it as well.


Quick note on this--it gets covered from time to time on BSD forums. 
Although this works quite well on most sites (including those with java
if you have it installed, (and, if you use linuxpluginwrapper, it also
installs realplayer which will work as well) there are some sites that
will choke firefox (though not linux-opera).

www.tvguide.com is one, espn another.  (I never said that we were
intellectuals on the forums)  :)


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Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites.

2005-03-03 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 09:57:51AM -0600, Eric Schuele wrote:
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 On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 08:50:34AM -0500, Michael Metzger wrote:
 
 My solution was to use the linuxpluginwrapper
 
 then I had to copy out 
 /usr/share/examples/linuxpluginwrapper/libmap.conf
 
 to 
 
 /etc/libmap.conf
 
 and now I have firefox with flash support.
 
 
 Also, I have native java working in it as well.
 
 
 
 Quick note on this--it gets covered from time to time on BSD forums. 
 Although this works quite well on most sites (including those with java
 if you have it installed, (and, if you use linuxpluginwrapper, it also
 
 When you say 'use linuxpluginwrapper' do you mean *in addition* to 
 flashplugin-firefox?  Or linuxpluginwrapper with another flash port such 
 as linux-flashplugin*?

I mean only the linuxpluginwrapper.  I don't install flash (the port
does install it as a dependency however).


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Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites.

2005-03-03 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 04:45:41PM -0600, Eric Schuele wrote:
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 When you say 'use linuxpluginwrapper' do you mean *in addition* to 
 flashplugin-firefox?  Or linuxpluginwrapper with another flash port such 
 as linux-flashplugin*?
 
 
 I mean only the linuxpluginwrapper.  I don't install flash (the port
 does install it as a dependency however).
 
 Just so I understand...
 
 You install this in conjunction with the www/firefox not the 
 www/linux-firefox?

Heh, yes.  Ok, let me be sure I'm clear in my explanation. 

As this is the STABLE list, it might be redundant to mention that this
is all on what was 5.3 and is now 5.4-PRERELEASE

I install native firefox and native java, jdk14  (which requires, 
during the build, the linux-sun-jdk14 though that can be deleted
afterwards.)

If I then install /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper, it installs the
linux-flash plugin, linux_base-8, linux-realplayer and some other linux
things.  

After that, if one looks in
/usr/local/share/examples/linuxpluginwrapper, one sees libmap.conf files
for FreeBSD4.x, FreeBSD5-current and FreeBSD5-stable.  If one copies the
suggested lines to /etc/libmap.conf, flash and realplayer will work, as
well as pdf's opening with acroread.  

Java is a separate issue--if one installs java before installing
firefox, firefox finds it on its own.  If you install java after
installing firefox then you often have to create a symlink.



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Re: [5-STABLE] : CDRW burning problem - acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG ILLEGAL REQUEST

2005-02-10 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 05:23:46PM +0100, Marwan Burelle wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have a CDRW burner that use to work (with 5.2.1 the last time.)
 
 But since one of my last RELENG_5_2 update I encounter errors when
 burning CDRW (I don't have CDR to test, but I rember having strange
 behaviour with CDR also.) Switching to RELENG-5 (re-install 5.3 and
 cvsup after) a week ago doesn't change anything.
 
 burncd dies with message :
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17:05 FreeBSD-5.3]# burncd -e -v -f /dev/acd0 data 
 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso fixate
 adding type 0x08 file 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso size 660384 KB 330192 blocks
 burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCNEXTWRITEABLEADDR): Input/output error

I get the same error on two machines, did some googling and found no
answers that helped.  (I fear I don't remember the details now.)  As I
don't have the error on another machine (all running 5.3 STABLE) I
figured it was something to do with the CD drive, a Plexor.


However, in my case at least, the burn is successful.  It does it's
thing, gives me that error message, I wait a few moments, eject the CD
and it is a good one.




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Re: Adjusting time on a secured FreeBSD machine.

2005-02-04 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 01:47:53PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote:
 In the last episode (Feb 04), Stan said:
  I ran into this same problem.  After trying various things, I finally
  gave up and did it the easy way.  If you don't mind rebooting, the
  easiest thing to do is set the clock in the BIOS as accurately as
  possible, then let ntpd fine tune it from there.
 
 Setting your BIOS clock shouldn't be necessary since the bootup scripts
 will do an ntp sync before raising the securelevel anyway.  Make sure
 you have ntpdate_enable=YES in rc.conf.

I've found that if my bios clock was REALLY off, it would choke on that.
(Though I didn't have ntpdate set in rc.conf).  

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Re: Adjusting time on a secured FreeBSD machine.

2005-02-04 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 01:18:26PM -0800, Stan wrote:
 Hmmm.  My rc.conf has ntpd_enable-YES, but not ntpdate_enable=YES.
 Thanks!

They do conflict with each other, I'm not sure what will happen if you
have both in rc.conf.  Hopefully ntpdate will run first, then ntpd.  If
ntpd is running then you will get an error message running ntpdate.

On an unsecured box (the one that I mentioned, where ntpd choked because
the BIOS clock was too far off, I simply stopped ntpd, ran ntpdate and
then restarted ntpd.


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Re: Adjusting time on a secured FreeBSD machine.

2005-02-04 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 01:41:39PM -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote:
  Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:29:03 -0500
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  They do conflict with each other, I'm not sure what will happen if you
  have both in rc.conf.  Hopefully ntpdate will run first, then ntpd.  If
  ntpd is running then you will get an error message running ntpdate.
  
  On an unsecured box (the one that I mentioned, where ntpd choked because
  the BIOS clock was too far off, I simply stopped ntpd, ran ntpdate and
  then restarted ntpd.
 
 They do not conflict if you use the flags in defaults/rc.conf.
 
 ntpdate -b sets the time ONCE and is run before ntpd starts, the '-b'
 option will cause it to to set the time absolutely no matter hao far off
 the clock is at the time. This is exactly how ntpdate is intended to be
 used.
 
 That said, ntpdate is considered obsolete by the ntp folks and may
 disappear at some time in the future. Their recommendation is to use
 ntpd with the '-g' flag to force an unconditional clock set and to use
 the 'iburst' option on your servers in /etc/ntp.conf. I find this works
 well, but some have complained that it takes too long.

Thank you.  I have been using ntpd for awhile, and haven't read the man
pages recently, which I should have done before posting.  I only ran
into the issue once and solved it as I mentioned.

Thanks again.  I just learned something.


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