Re: [Freedos-devel] Unix-like utilities for FreeDOS

[Javier Gutiérrez Chamorro]

UPTIME has been updated to 2.40:
http://nikkhokkho.sourceforge.net/static.php?page=UPTIME

History
2.40 - 2017/06/08
- 8086, 186 and 386 optimized versions.

2.30 - 2017/06/07
- Switched to ASMC 2.24.
- Added uppercase switches: -h, -H, -?, -r, -R, ...
- Added dash (-) and slash (/) switches separator: -h, /H.

2.20 - 2017/06/07
- Take advantage of proc uses to simplify code
- Remove GetAlarm time unused procedure.
- Other minor optimizations. Size reduced from 1.310 to 1.284 bytes.

2.10 2017/06/06
- Switch to UASM 2.35.
- Fixed waiting for key pressed in help.
- Size reduced from 1.312 to 1.310 bytes.

2017-06-06 9:13 GMT+02:00 Javier Gutiérrez Chamorro <
guti.bitacoras@gmail.com>:

> If anyone is interested, I have release UPTIME 1.00 and UPTIME 1.10. But
> also, just published UPTIME 2.00, totally rewritten from FAST to ASM.
>
> You can find them at, including full source-code at:
> - http://nikkhokkho.sourceforge.net/static.php?page=UPTIME
> - https://sourceforge.net/projects/nikkhokkho/files/UPTIME/
>
> Regards.
>
> 2017-06-01 16:25 GMT+02:00 Javier Gutiérrez Chamorro <
> guti.bitacoras@gmail.com>:
>
>> With the recent announcement of FAST being empowered by FreeDOS, and the
>> interest on porting some UNIX utilities to DOS, I decided to combine both.
>> Since current UPTIME v7.02 by Mark Aitchison is written in Turbo Pascal,
>> I tried to do an approach in fast. It is still WIP, and not yet as complete
>> as the other, but it is a mere COM file of 1.077 bytes, while the current
>> version is 49.746.
>>
>> What I like of my approach, is storing initial startup time on the CMOS,
>> using the unused alarm records, which is by far more efficient than storing
>> a file.
>>
>> Hope you like the idea. Next steps will be parsing the command-line to
>> allow output in different formats, and try to mimic format such as:
>> 08:11:22 up 146 days, 34 min, 3 users, load average: 0.28, 0.45, 0.38
>>
>> Sources and binaries are available at: http://javiergutierrezchamorro
>> .com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/uptime.zip
>>
>> Once more complete, I will upload to my Sourceforge page:
>> https://www.sourceforge.net/projects/nikkhokkho
>>
>>
>> 2017-05-31 21:29 GMT+02:00 Jim Hall :
>>
>>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Rugxulo  wrote:
>>> [..]
>>> > The other three were listed in the old (pre-1.2) Software List under
>>> "UTIL":
>>> [..]
>>> >
>>> > * du 1.0
>>> > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util
>>> /disk/du10x.zip
>>> > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util
>>> /disk/du10s.zip
>>> >
>>> > * sleep 1.0
>>> > (broken link, already moved? well, formerly it was here)
>>> >
>>> > * xgrep 1.03
>>> > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util
>>> /file/xgrep/xgrp103x.zip
>>> > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util
>>> /file/xgrep/xgrp103s.zip
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks! I missed these when I organized things. I'll move du and
>>> xgrep. I'd already moved sleep:
>>> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/unix/
>>>
>>> 
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Re: [Freedos-devel] Unix-like utilities for FreeDOS

[Javier Gutiérrez Chamorro]

If anyone is interested, I have release UPTIME 1.00 and UPTIME 1.10. But
also, just published UPTIME 2.00, totally rewritten from FAST to ASM.

You can find them at, including full source-code at:
- http://nikkhokkho.sourceforge.net/static.php?page=UPTIME
- https://sourceforge.net/projects/nikkhokkho/files/UPTIME/

Regards.

2017-06-01 16:25 GMT+02:00 Javier Gutiérrez Chamorro <
guti.bitacoras@gmail.com>:

> With the recent announcement of FAST being empowered by FreeDOS, and the
> interest on porting some UNIX utilities to DOS, I decided to combine both.
> Since current UPTIME v7.02 by Mark Aitchison is written in Turbo Pascal, I
> tried to do an approach in fast. It is still WIP, and not yet as complete
> as the other, but it is a mere COM file of 1.077 bytes, while the current
> version is 49.746.
>
> What I like of my approach, is storing initial startup time on the CMOS,
> using the unused alarm records, which is by far more efficient than storing
> a file.
>
> Hope you like the idea. Next steps will be parsing the command-line to
> allow output in different formats, and try to mimic format such as:
> 08:11:22 up 146 days, 34 min, 3 users, load average: 0.28, 0.45, 0.38
>
> Sources and binaries are available at: http://javiergutierrezchamorro.com/
> wp-content/uploads/2017/07/uptime.zip
>
> Once more complete, I will upload to my Sourceforge page:
> https://www.sourceforge.net/projects/nikkhokkho
>
>
> 2017-05-31 21:29 GMT+02:00 Jim Hall :
>
>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Rugxulo  wrote:
>> [..]
>> > The other three were listed in the old (pre-1.2) Software List under
>> "UTIL":
>> [..]
>> >
>> > * du 1.0
>> > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util
>> /disk/du10x.zip
>> > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util
>> /disk/du10s.zip
>> >
>> > * sleep 1.0
>> > (broken link, already moved? well, formerly it was here)
>> >
>> > * xgrep 1.03
>> > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util
>> /file/xgrep/xgrp103x.zip
>> > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util
>> /file/xgrep/xgrp103s.zip
>>
>>
>> Thanks! I missed these when I organized things. I'll move du and
>> xgrep. I'd already moved sleep:
>> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/unix/
>>
>> 
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Re: [Freedos-devel] Unix-like utilities for FreeDOS

[Bret Johnson]

> Why not just "touch" your .COM file itself (argv[0], DOS 3+)> when run? 
> Because you don't know when you're supposed to touch it and when you aren't.  
> You only want to touch it the first time it is run after a reboot, and you 
> can't (automatically) tell when a reboot just happened without referencing 
> something you've stored in memory (it can't be done with something stored on 
> a hard drive or something somebody else stored in memory).  You could put the 
> onus on the user to tell the program when to do (or not do) the touch with 
> command-line options, which I think is what you may be referring to with the 
> argv.  But, even that won't work if the file is read-only (either with file 
> attributes or read-only media, like a CD or write-protected floppy).

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Re: [Freedos-devel] Unix-like utilities for FreeDOS

[Rugxulo]

Hi,

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Bret Johnson  wrote:
>
> > What I like of my approach, is storing initial startup time
> > on the CMOS, using the unused alarm records, which is by
> > far more efficient than storing a file.
>
> if you don't want to use a file (which is probably a good idea), you can
get by with using
> only a small amount of "regular" memory (conventional, upper, or high).

Why not just "touch" your .COM file itself (argv[0], DOS 3+) when run?
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Re: [Freedos-devel] Unix-like utilities for FreeDOS

[Bret Johnson]

> What I like of my approach, is storing initial startup time> on the CMOS, 
> using the unused alarm records, which is by> far more efficient than storing 
> a file. A couple of things to note.  First of all, you use the CMOS clock for 
> your time stamps, which doesn't even exist on old computers (real or emulated 
> computers with 8086/8088 CPU's).  So, your program needs to check to make 
> sure the computer actually has a CMOS -- you can't just (safely) assume that 
> it does.
 Also, you can't just assume that the CMOS alarm space never gets used.  I've 
used the CMOS alarm functions in some of my programs.  I will admit that the 
CMOS alarms are rarely used, but assuming they NEVER get used is simply 
unrealistic.
 You really need to use the BIOS clock rather than the CMOS clock, since it 
exists on all computers.  Also, if you don't want to use a file (which is 
probably a good idea), you can get by with using only a small amount of 
"regular" memory (conventional, upper, or high).  You could get by with just 
two paragraphs of memory (32 bytes) -- one paragraph for the DOS Memory Control 
Block and one paragraph where you can store your data.

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Re: [Freedos-devel] Unix-like utilities for FreeDOS

[Javier Gutiérrez Chamorro]

With the recent announcement of FAST being empowered by FreeDOS, and the
interest on porting some UNIX utilities to DOS, I decided to combine both.
Since current UPTIME v7.02 by Mark Aitchison is written in Turbo Pascal, I
tried to do an approach in fast. It is still WIP, and not yet as complete
as the other, but it is a mere COM file of 1.077 bytes, while the current
version is 49.746.

What I like of my approach, is storing initial startup time on the CMOS,
using the unused alarm records, which is by far more efficient than storing
a file.

Hope you like the idea. Next steps will be parsing the command-line to
allow output in different formats, and try to mimic format such as:
08:11:22 up 146 days, 34 min, 3 users, load average: 0.28, 0.45, 0.38

Sources and binaries are available at:
http://javiergutierrezchamorro.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/uptime.zip

Once more complete, I will upload to my Sourceforge page:
https://www.sourceforge.net/projects/nikkhokkho


2017-05-31 21:29 GMT+02:00 Jim Hall :

> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Rugxulo  wrote:
> [..]
> > The other three were listed in the old (pre-1.2) Software List under
> "UTIL":
> [..]
> >
> > * du 1.0
> > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/
> util/disk/du10x.zip
> > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/
> util/disk/du10s.zip
> >
> > * sleep 1.0
> > (broken link, already moved? well, formerly it was here)
> >
> > * xgrep 1.03
> > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/
> util/file/xgrep/xgrp103x.zip
> > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/
> util/file/xgrep/xgrp103s.zip
>
>
> Thanks! I missed these when I organized things. I'll move du and
> xgrep. I'd already moved sleep:
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/unix/
>
> 
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Re: [Freedos-devel] Unix-like utilities for FreeDOS

[Jerome Shidel]

> On May 30, 2017, at 2:40 PM, Jim Hall  wrote:
> 
>>> On May 29, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Jim Hall  wrote:
>>> I have arranged some things on ibiblio to collect the Unix workalike
>>> utilities into one directory. I have put them here:
>>> 
>>> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/unix/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If I missed something on ibiblio that didn't get moved and should
>>> have, please let me know.
> 
> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Jerome Shidel  wrote:
>> du
>> grep
>> less
>> sleep
>> xgrep
>> 
>> And maybe nro
> 
> 'nro' is already there, under the 'nroff' directory.
> 
> I totally missed 'du' and 'xgrep'. I'll move that when I'm back at my
> usual computer.
> 
> I didn't see the others on ibiblio already. Do we already have DOS
> versions of grep, less, and sleep on ibiblio?


Don’t know if they are mirrored. But, they are packages for them in the repo. 

Let me take a look….

grep and some others are under simtel gnuish mirror, so probably should leave 
them put and just make a gnuish symlink in there.

Don’t see any raw files for sleep. But, the main site is still up. So, I fetch 
it and put the raw file(s) in the unix folder. 

Now, I’ve noticed some of these packages have old/outdated URLS in them that 
need updated. More to do…

Jerome










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Re: [Freedos-devel] Unix-like utilities for FreeDOS

[Jim Hall]

>> On May 29, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Jim Hall  wrote:
>> I have arranged some things on ibiblio to collect the Unix workalike
>> utilities into one directory. I have put them here:
>>
>> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/unix/
>>
>>
>> If I missed something on ibiblio that didn't get moved and should
>> have, please let me know.

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Jerome Shidel  wrote:
> du
> grep
> less
> sleep
> xgrep
>
> And maybe nro

'nro' is already there, under the 'nroff' directory.

I totally missed 'du' and 'xgrep'. I'll move that when I'm back at my
usual computer.

I didn't see the others on ibiblio already. Do we already have DOS
versions of grep, less, and sleep on ibiblio?

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Re: [Freedos-devel] Unix-like utilities for FreeDOS

[Jerome Shidel]

> On May 29, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Jim Hall  wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Jim Hall  wrote:
>> We have a few Unix-workalike utilities on ibiblio.
>> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/file/
>> 
>> I think over the weekend I'll create a new directory there, so we can
>> collect the Unix-like utilities in one place. Might call this "unix"
>> or "unix-like" or "unixish", probably under
>> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/file/
>> 
>> I'll post a note to the list to let folks know when it's done, and
>> where to find it.
> 
> 
> I have arranged some things on ibiblio to collect the Unix workalike
> utilities into one directory. I have put them here:
> 
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/unix/
> 
> 
> If I missed something on ibiblio that didn't get moved and should
> have, please let me know.

du
grep
less
sleep
xgrep

And maybe nro 

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