Re: What is a good wireless solution for a small restaurant.

2003-12-12 Thread kconnell 
Be careful with the low-end AP's like Linksys, I pretty sure they don't support RADIUS.


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- Original Message -
From: Guy Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, December 11, 2003 5:49 pm
Subject: What is a good wireless solution for a small restaurant.

 Since many of the people on this list talk about wireless systems, 
 I 
 thought I could ask for some assistance.
 
 I have a customer with a chain of small restaurants, that want to 
 provide wireless connections for his customers.
 
 I am looking for an inexpensive secure solution.
 
 I have heard people talking about 'walled gardens', and that may 
 be the 
 way to go.
 
 I have been asked about the d-link and linksys wireless routers, 
 but 
 have no experience with them. To date I have only had experience 
 with 
 long haul wireless, campus wireless and wired solutions.
 
 I don't have a firm direction from the customer yet, but there 
 will be 
 dozens of restaurants that will need to be hooked up.
 
 I am guessing that I could somehow use FreeRadius to provide 
 centralized 
 access controls.
 
 One of the prerequisites will likely be that there are NO moving 
 parts 
 {ie. no hard drives} on any of the devices and low power 
 consumption {no 
 large servers or monitors} in the restaurants. If required, the 
 traffic 
 could be backhauled to a centralized location over vpn's.
 
 I would appreciate any suggestions.
 
 -- 
 Guy Fraser
 Network Administrator
 The Internet Centre
 780-450-6787 , 1-888-450-6787
 
 There is a fine line between genius and lunacy, fear not, walk the
 line with pride. Not all things will end up as you wanted, but you
 will certainly discover things the meek and timid will miss out on.
 
 
 
 
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Re: What is a good wireless solution for a small restaurant.

2003-12-12 Thread Guy Fraser 
Hi

I found a nice solution at D-Link, DSA-3100 + DSA-3100P together they 
can be a simple standalone solution, but the DSA-3100 can be used with a 
radius server as well. The DSA-3100 has a 802.1x  feature that  supports 
EAP-TLS and EAP-MD5. At USD$499 it seems like a decent solution. The 
DSA-3100P ticket printer is USD$399 ... YIKES, a little pricy, but 
allows one touch ticket generation for timed accounts.

Have a nice day

Rob Genovesi wrote:

Use this page as a cheatsheet of sorts :
http://www.airpath.com/Products/wiboss_lite/compat.htm
Airpath is a back-end provider for hotspot services, so they list a 
bunch of compliant devices to use with their service.  This means that 
these devices have valid radius clients, and therefore should play 
nicely with FreeRadius.

cheap and easy side:  check out the D-Link DL-3800.  minimal features, 
easy to set-up.  requires seperate wireless AP.
cheap, yet full featured - harder to config if you aren't technical:  
check out Mikrotik Router OS.

Hope this helps.



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Re: What is a good wireless solution for a small restaurant.

2003-12-11 Thread Rob Genovesi 
Use this page as a cheatsheet of sorts :
http://www.airpath.com/Products/wiboss_lite/compat.htm
Airpath is a back-end provider for hotspot services, so they list a bunch 
of compliant devices to use with their service.  This means that these 
devices have valid radius clients, and therefore should play nicely with 
FreeRadius.

cheap and easy side:  check out the D-Link DL-3800.  minimal features, easy 
to set-up.  requires seperate wireless AP.
cheap, yet full featured - harder to config if you aren't technical:  check 
out Mikrotik Router OS.

Hope this helps.

-Rob

PS: nice tag line, very appropos for people in our business...

At 03:49 PM 12/11/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Since many of the people on this list talk about wireless systems, I 
thought I could ask for some assistance.

I have a customer with a chain of small restaurants, that want to provide 
wireless connections for his customers.

I am looking for an inexpensive secure solution.

I have heard people talking about 'walled gardens', and that may be the 
way to go.

I have been asked about the d-link and linksys wireless routers, but have 
no experience with them. To date I have only had experience with long haul 
wireless, campus wireless and wired solutions.

I don't have a firm direction from the customer yet, but there will be 
dozens of restaurants that will need to be hooked up.

I am guessing that I could somehow use FreeRadius to provide centralized 
access controls.

One of the prerequisites will likely be that there are NO moving parts 
{ie. no hard drives} on any of the devices and low power consumption {no 
large servers or monitors} in the restaurants. If required, the traffic 
could be backhauled to a centralized location over vpn's.

I would appreciate any suggestions.

--
Guy Fraser
Network Administrator
The Internet Centre
780-450-6787 , 1-888-450-6787
There is a fine line between genius and lunacy, fear not, walk the
line with pride. Not all things will end up as you wanted, but you
will certainly discover things the meek and timid will miss out on.


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