Re: Upgrading freeradius from source
Hi, Software will always have flaws, defects, bugs or whatever we call it. The way I understand the rpmbuild process, it is not difficult to add a little patch which fixes the problem. ..or just wait for 2.1.6 which fixes the problem + many other small issues alan - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: Upgrading freeradius from source
--- On Thu, 5/14/09, a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote: From: a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk Subject: Re: Upgrading freeradius from source To: FreeRadius users mailing list freeradius-users@lists.freeradius.org Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 7:45 AM Hi, Software will always have flaws, defects, bugs or whatever we call it. The way I understand the rpmbuild process, it is not difficult to add a little patch which fixes the problem. ..or just wait for 2.1.6 which fixes the problem + many other small issues No issues. I have made myself a own rpm for 2.1.4/2.1.5 for adapting the older SPECS. It's not perfect but good enough for my own consumption for the time being. Cheerse. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: Upgrading freeradius from source
2.1.4/2.1.5 release had identity crises. 2.1.8. will be available in matter of days. It's on pre-release testing. Ivan Kalik Kalik Informatika ISP --- On Tue, 5/12/09, John Dennis jden...@redhat.com wrote: I think you'll save yourself a lot of headaches if you stick with RPM based packages. If the version of FreeRADIUS is not available as an RPM for the version of the distro you're using then you can find instructions for how to download, build and install the *RPM* for a current version here: http://wiki.freeradius.org/Red_Hat_FAQ I can't find a SOURCE RPM for 2.1.4 yet for fedora. I tried one of those 2.1.3 rpm, it works perfectly on my older fedora distro, even though it seem to indicate that they are for newer fedora. So I guess I have to wait a little longer. Regards. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: Upgrading freeradius from source
Am 13.05.2009 um 11:06 schrieb Ivan Kalik: 2.1.4/2.1.5 release had identity crises. 2.1.8. will be available in matter of days. It's on pre-release testing. I hope you mean 2.1.6 ;-) Ivan Kalik Kalik Informatika ISP --- On Tue, 5/12/09, John Dennis jden...@redhat.com wrote: I think you'll save yourself a lot of headaches if you stick with RPM based packages. If the version of FreeRADIUS is not available as an RPM for the version of the distro you're using then you can find instructions for how to download, build and install the *RPM* for a current version here: http://wiki.freeradius.org/Red_Hat_FAQ I can't find a SOURCE RPM for 2.1.4 yet for fedora. I tried one of those 2.1.3 rpm, it works perfectly on my older fedora distro, even though it seem to indicate that they are for newer fedora. So I guess I have to wait a little longer. Regards. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/ users.html Nicolas Goutte extragroup GmbH - Karlsruhe Waldstr. 49 76133 Karlsruhe Germany Geschäftsführer: Stephan Mönninghoff, Hans Martin Kern, Tilman Haerdle Registergericht: Amtsgericht Münster / HRB: 5624 Steuer Nr.: 337/5903/0421 / UstID: DE 204607841 - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: Upgrading freeradius from source
--- On Wed, 5/13/09, Ivan Kalik t...@kalik.net wrote: From: Ivan Kalik t...@kalik.net Subject: Re: Upgrading freeradius from source To: FreeRadius users mailing list freeradius-users@lists.freeradius.org Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 9:06 AM 2.1.4/2.1.5 release had identity crises. 2.1.8. will be available in matter of days. It's on pre-release testing. Catching up with releases is always a never ending game, and each version can take up a lot of resources to prove to be stable for production use. Are there major defects with 2.1.4 which resulting in quick subsequent new releases ? Regards. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: Upgrading freeradius from source
Nicolas Goutte wrote: Am 13.05.2009 um 11:06 schrieb Ivan Kalik: 2.1.4/2.1.5 release had identity crises. 2.1.8. will be available in matter of days. It's on pre-release testing. I hope you mean 2.1.6 ;-) Yes, Ivan means 2.1.6. BTW, the 2.1.4/2.1.5 snafu is why the most recent RPM is 2.1.3. -- John Dennis jden...@redhat.com Looking to carve out IT costs? www.redhat.com/carveoutcosts/ - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: Upgrading freeradius from source
--- On Wed, 5/13/09, John Dennis jden...@redhat.com wrote: BTW, the 2.1.4/2.1.5 snafu is why the most recent RPM is 2.1.3. -- Software will always have flaws, defects, bugs or whatever we call it. The way I understand the rpmbuild process, it is not difficult to add a little patch which fixes the problem. Regards. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: Upgrading freeradius from source
Ming-Ching Tiew wrote: --- On Wed, 5/13/09, John Dennis jden...@redhat.com wrote: BTW, the 2.1.4/2.1.5 snafu is why the most recent RPM is 2.1.3. -- Software will always have flaws, defects, bugs or whatever we call it. The way I understand the rpmbuild process, it is not difficult to add a little patch which fixes the problem. Of course it's easy to add a patch, but that's not the issue. There were 2 different versions of 2.1.4 tar file over a period of time. The second version of 2.1.4 identified itself internally as it built as 2.1.5 even though it's name was 2.1.4. RPM's are supposed to be built from pristine upstream sources and *must* be reproducible from upstream. So let's say you have a tar file whose name is freeradius-server-2.1.4.tar.bz which is being used to build an RPM, how do you know if that tar file was the original 2.1.4 or the subsequent 2.1.5 release which superseded it? It's ambiguous what the RPM version would be because it depends on the time window the freeradius-server-2.1.4.tar.bz was downloaded. The ambiguity with regards to what the actual version the RPM might produce is not acceptable. It's critical from a release perspective the version information be correct. The entire RPM build process depends on the assumption the tar file version matches the tar file contents which matches the RPM spec file version. It may be acceptable to you to privately build such an RPM but distributions cannot take that same risk. -- John Dennis jden...@redhat.com Looking to carve out IT costs? www.redhat.com/carveoutcosts/ - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Upgrading freeradius from source
I have done some testing on 2.1.4 and I like the flexibility comparing to 1.x. Unfortunately, I am using for production a pretty old distribution 1.1.7. For such an old distro, it's almost impossible to do an upgrade and still maintaining the rpm package info and what not, so I am considering upgrading by compiling from source, ie configure and make install. Any thing I should consider before I have go down to this path ? Cheers. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: Upgrading freeradius from source
mct...@yahoo.com wrote: Unfortunately, I am using for production a pretty old distribution 1.1.7. For such an old distro, it's almost impossible to do an upgrade and still maintaining the rpm package info and what not, so I am considering upgrading by compiling from source, ie configure and make install. Any thing I should consider before I have go down to this path ? It won't over-write your existing configuration. Ensure that you're using Cleartext-Password := ..., and not User-Password == It may be safer to *migrate* your existing configuration. The configuration files are relatively small, so this shouldn't take long. i.e. go through the configuration files, comparing the old to the new (default) files. Where they are different, add your configuration, OR examine your configuration to see if it's still necessary. The goal of 2.x is to have it *largely* compatible with 1.x, but there are differences. Alan DeKok. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: Upgrading freeradius from source
mct...@yahoo.com wrote: I have done some testing on 2.1.4 and I like the flexibility comparing to 1.x. Unfortunately, I am using for production a pretty old distribution 1.1.7. For such an old distro, it's almost impossible to do an upgrade and still maintaining the rpm package info and what not, so I am considering upgrading by compiling from source, ie configure and make install. Hmm... 1.1.7 RPM makes it sound like an old Fedora release. Alan gave you some good suggestions about the 1.x to 2.x upgrade, I have a suggestion about building and packages. It's always possible to build from source, but it has some downsides, you'll need to make sure all your build prerequisites are satisfied, you've passed all the right values to configure, not the least of which is to assure the install path information is correct, you've fully removed the old RPM so there aren't conflicts and then when you're done you'll have lost all the advantages of having a package manager (e.g. rpm) which tracks dependencies, watches for conflicts, and knows the version of software installed on the system, sets the right file permissions and SELinux labeling. Plus the source RPM (SRPM) will have any patches applied which are necessary. I think you'll save yourself a lot of headaches if you stick with RPM based packages. If the version of FreeRADIUS is not available as an RPM for the version of the distro you're using then you can find instructions for how to download, build and install the *RPM* for a current version here: http://wiki.freeradius.org/Red_Hat_FAQ Any thing I should consider before I have go down to this path ? -- John Dennis jden...@redhat.com Looking to carve out IT costs? www.redhat.com/carveoutcosts/ - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: Upgrading freeradius from source
--- On Tue, 5/12/09, John Dennis jden...@redhat.com wrote: I think you'll save yourself a lot of headaches if you stick with RPM based packages. If the version of FreeRADIUS is not available as an RPM for the version of the distro you're using then you can find instructions for how to download, build and install the *RPM* for a current version here: http://wiki.freeradius.org/Red_Hat_FAQ I can't find a SOURCE RPM for 2.1.4 yet for fedora. I tried one of those 2.1.3 rpm, it works perfectly on my older fedora distro, even though it seem to indicate that they are for newer fedora. So I guess I have to wait a little longer. Regards. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
