Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
Hi everyone left, On 20.01.14 19:38, Dirk Meyer wrote: > Since we also lack someone maintaining the server we host and I do not > want to pay for something we don't need, I will shut it down at the end > of February. This means the SVN and the Wiki will be gone. If someone > wants a backup of the Wiki please tell me. The code is already on github > and will remain there. The mailing list on SF will continue and so will > the mail server hosting freevo.org and all mail addresses will continue > to be valid. > > Maybe after some time someone resurrects Freevo. I would love to pass > the maintainership over to someone just as I took it over from Krister > years ago. Maybe someone takes the kaa-stuff and writes something new > and better. I'm happy to assist and I think the same is true for Jason. > Maybe I will release something someday based on the current code. This post was six years ago. Now Python 2 is end-of-live and Freevo won't run on Python 3.x.. I myself switched to kodi years ago. Whats left are some parts of the kaa library used by Freevo. I will start porting useful stuff from kaa to Python 3 ... or copy code from Tack who already did it. It may be useful for others and I will need it myself to port some private code to Python 3. kaa.metadata is still very useful for me. So join me at https://github.com/freevo and keep some good parts active and create new libraries. Maybe I will create a new project for kaa. But Freevo itself is dead. Therefore, I will not renew the freevo.org doamin and cleanup everything on sf.net. The "new" homepage will be freevo.sf.net again. If you need to contact me, please use the github page since this mail address will be invalid soon. Bye and again: it was a good time! Dischi ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
Hi Dirk. Thank you for your proposition. I'm really want to try the Freevo2 and I hope you will help me in it. I was a bit busy but now I'm ready to invest some time in Freevo2. Here is the link on the doc where I'm going to make all notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MSl8gwyQi3Poj-xZ889WsT55WuocwLIcJxP7VrFcBmw/edit?usp=sharing I will do that to allow someone after me ;) to do those steps faster and easier. As I understood from your answer of my previous mail I should install the modules. I'm not sure I understood you properly. Should I do something like python2 setup.py install --root=$pkgdir install, pack kaa-base, kaa-display, kaa-imlib2, kaa-metadata, kaa-epg modules into the distributive packages and install? Should I add into my list of modules what I used for freevo1 any other modules? If yes in what way should I build them? Please let me know what should I do now. I'd pay your attention on next questions (according to your last response): 1. How to install and start Freevo2? Btw, I prefer to use the mplayer. Let me know if you think I should shift to some other player. 2. How to configure it to use specific audio card / outputs? 3. How to configure it to use my RC with already known Windows OS key codes? 4. How to configure my instance of Freevo2 to use specific folders as the input for Video/Audio/Photo sources? 5. Can I configure a couple of web radio channels how? 6. Can I configure a couple of iptv channels how? On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Dirk Meyer dis...@freevo.org wrote: Hi, On 17.02.2014 20:58, Valerii Koval wrote: Can you do me a favor and point me on some short guide/piece of text from what I can start? Get the 2.0 source code from github as well as all kaa modules. On install the modules will tell you about their additional requirements. And, to not waste of my time please update me with a short review of mandatory features: recorder (I have mpeg2 TV card) Not integrated. The idea is to the tvheadend. video player (any formats) Works. Ether mplayer or gstreamer photo show Works tv guide viewer + setter to record Again, no TV support yet. USB (the Windows OS keys should be remapped) RC configuration. Works Regards, Dischi -- Obviously the only rational solution to your problem is suicide. -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- Regards, Valeriy -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
Hello everyone : I think there are a lot more people using freevo than we think. I'm just an user but, Freevo 1.9. really impressed me and has been my htpc front-end for three years. It has fulfilled its role perfectly.Due to its flexibility, It was the only front-end that could meet my purpose. At this point, I have to say that I've spent _lots of hours_ reading and understanding the localconf.py file and reading the freevo - wiki. I had to learn how to activate modules and extracting information dealing with a linux terminal, to organize an xml file with a text editor for web radio listening, etc ... I think you know what I mean. In my case, freevo has been a home-made arcade cab front-end. Due to a mechanical switch, I could pass SVideo image signal from the cab to the living room TV (another CRT TV). So my htpc was in fact a HT-arcade cab. Freevo was the only front-end that can work perfectly and cope with this, dealing with a resolution of 800x600 without errors in texts and menus, even more, could be easily configured and managed with joysticks devices and/or a HID interfaces (keyboards, remote controls or the like). For me that was awesome. My living room TV (CRT ) stopped working one week before the announcement of Dirk , and I acquired a smart TV. Well, even with the services that offers a smart TV, I decided to transfer the media center functions from the arcade cab to a dedicated PC behind the led, and perform a Freevo 1.9 installation from repositories on a fresh ubuntu (12.04). Anyway, the result is that I can continue enjoying my freevo media center to play videos, music and photos, launch firefox and other applications from command menu, as well as emulators which a keyboard control is needed (I have activated emulators plugin and configure fuse (ZX Spectrum ) and DosBox). Nowadays I can not imagine lunching videos and other stuff from nautilus... oh man, this is not cool at all. So, thanks to all the people who have contributed in this great software. pablo33 from Spain. -- Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion Make the Move to Perforce. With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works. Faster operations. Version large binaries. Built-in WAN optimization and the freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=122218951iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
Since there will be no more changes for the time being, how about a last official release? Nothing fancy, just tarballs in the website with a proper version number and a small README and INSTALL. I never participate here, but I'm a Freevo fan too. It is still being used, its just that there are so many other options now and more actively developed too. On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Dan Schmidt helpdesk...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure why Freevo wasn't more popular. Python makes modification easy, even if you aren't a programmer. I still prefer to launch my favorite media centers from Freevo 1. I regret that I never did get around to working on the wiki. Thanks to all who put so much work into it. On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Dirk Meyer dis...@freevo.org wrote: Hi, this is an answer to all the mails regarding this subject on the lists. Thanks for the mails to show that there are still people using Freevo. Besides DLNA und XBMC, Freevo is still a good compromise between simple and usefull. Keep using Freevo, maybe send patches :) I may have not enough time for Freevo hacking, expressially stuff I do not need, but I have time to accept patches. Regarding Freevo 2.0, I know that it lacks documentation and why should you change from 1.x if your current setup is working. Well, I cannot answer that :) Just try it out. It works great for me. Freevo.org has moved to a different server using other websites as well. The php stuff is now replaced be static pages, the Wiki is saved as static pages as well. I have a backup of the SVN, the Wiki source and the old homepage. So nothing is lost ... well except the 2.0 Wiki which was too outdated and more a confusion that real help. My mail wasn't a good bye :) It is only a facing-the-facts. The project is not dead, it is only sleeping. Regards, Dischi -- The opinions above are solely those of a 12 year old hacker who has broken into my account, and not those of my employer or any other organization. -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- Flow-based real-time traffic analytics software. Cisco certified tool. Monitor traffic, SLAs, QoS, Medianet, WAAS etc. with NetFlow Analyzer Customize your own dashboards, set traffic alerts and generate reports. Network behavioral analysis security monitoring. All-in-one tool. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=126839071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion Make the Move to Perforce. With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works. Faster operations. Version large binaries. Built-in WAN optimization and the freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=122218951iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
I'm not sure why Freevo wasn't more popular. Python makes modification easy, even if you aren't a programmer. I still prefer to launch my favorite media centers from Freevo 1. I regret that I never did get around to working on the wiki. Thanks to all who put so much work into it. On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Dirk Meyer dis...@freevo.org wrote: Hi, this is an answer to all the mails regarding this subject on the lists. Thanks for the mails to show that there are still people using Freevo. Besides DLNA und XBMC, Freevo is still a good compromise between simple and usefull. Keep using Freevo, maybe send patches :) I may have not enough time for Freevo hacking, expressially stuff I do not need, but I have time to accept patches. Regarding Freevo 2.0, I know that it lacks documentation and why should you change from 1.x if your current setup is working. Well, I cannot answer that :) Just try it out. It works great for me. Freevo.org has moved to a different server using other websites as well. The php stuff is now replaced be static pages, the Wiki is saved as static pages as well. I have a backup of the SVN, the Wiki source and the old homepage. So nothing is lost ... well except the 2.0 Wiki which was too outdated and more a confusion that real help. My mail wasn't a good bye :) It is only a facing-the-facts. The project is not dead, it is only sleeping. Regards, Dischi -- The opinions above are solely those of a 12 year old hacker who has broken into my account, and not those of my employer or any other organization. -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- Flow-based real-time traffic analytics software. Cisco certified tool. Monitor traffic, SLAs, QoS, Medianet, WAAS etc. with NetFlow Analyzer Customize your own dashboards, set traffic alerts and generate reports. Network behavioral analysis security monitoring. All-in-one tool. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=126839071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
Hi, On 17.02.2014 20:58, Valerii Koval wrote: Can you do me a favor and point me on some short guide/piece of text from what I can start? Get the 2.0 source code from github as well as all kaa modules. On install the modules will tell you about their additional requirements. And, to not waste of my time please update me with a short review of mandatory features: recorder (I have mpeg2 TV card) Not integrated. The idea is to the tvheadend. video player (any formats) Works. Ether mplayer or gstreamer photo show Works tv guide viewer + setter to record Again, no TV support yet. USB (the Windows OS keys should be remapped) RC configuration. Works Regards, Dischi -- Obviously the only rational solution to your problem is suicide. -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
Hi, this is an answer to all the mails regarding this subject on the lists. Thanks for the mails to show that there are still people using Freevo. Besides DLNA und XBMC, Freevo is still a good compromise between simple and usefull. Keep using Freevo, maybe send patches :) I may have not enough time for Freevo hacking, expressially stuff I do not need, but I have time to accept patches. Regarding Freevo 2.0, I know that it lacks documentation and why should you change from 1.x if your current setup is working. Well, I cannot answer that :) Just try it out. It works great for me. Freevo.org has moved to a different server using other websites as well. The php stuff is now replaced be static pages, the Wiki is saved as static pages as well. I have a backup of the SVN, the Wiki source and the old homepage. So nothing is lost ... well except the 2.0 Wiki which was too outdated and more a confusion that real help. My mail wasn't a good bye :) It is only a facing-the-facts. The project is not dead, it is only sleeping. Regards, Dischi -- The opinions above are solely those of a 12 year old hacker who has broken into my account, and not those of my employer or any other organization. -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 13:31:40 +0100 Dirk Meyer dis...@freevo.org wrote: Hi, this is an answer to all the mails regarding this subject on the lists. snip My mail wasn't a good bye :) It is only a facing-the-facts. The project is not dead, it is only sleeping. Regards, Dischi thanks Dischi -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
Well... heck. My Freevo and I had gone rogue and been off the grid for a few years now... I can't remember the last time I updated from SVN. I think I've had the Freevo for nearly a decade at this point, from humble beginnings in a beige mini-tower case with a keyboard for control, to it's current digs in an Antec HTPC case with iMON VFD display and remote, recently upgraded to allow full 1080i playback via the VGA connector to my ancient rear-projection CRT HDTV. In fact, I was gearing up to come back on the list with an interesting announcement. I finally got tired of having to choose between Gray's Anatomy or Glee on Thursday nights, plus having to take over the set-top box to record was a less-than-ideal solution (but it worked great) and sometimes I'd not notice it was recording and change channels or turn off the box (meaning to turn it on). Plus, sometimes I'd _want_ to watch TV, but there's a recording that needs to be done... So back on Black Friday weekend, I picked up an HDHomerun Prime box from Newegg on a discount. For those who haven't heard of it, it's a three tuner CableCard box that runs over your network. Controlled over network by your computer and throws back the raw MPEG-TS stream for saving or streaming/viewing. I've been on a total coding bender for the last three weeks or more. I've written a recording plugin for the HDHomerun Prime that handles the multiple tuners (and may theoretically work with any of the HDHomerun boxes with small modifications). It also works around a flaw in the firmware by setting up a ping to the HDHomerun box while recording, keeping the stream to the Freevo from stalling or dropping. I've re-written swaths of code in the recordingserver so it will now: * Handle multiple simultaneous recordings for any given number of tuners (reported by the recording plugin) * Properly handle back-to-back recordings (delayed recordings where end-time for one is start-time for another) when all tuners are in use * Conflict resolution for any given number of tuners (still testing this one, but early results are very promising!) * Positive communication between recording server and recording plugin: if the recording fails to start, we now know it. It will highlight yellow in the web interface and the server will keep attempting to start the recording every minute until it is successful or the program is over. I also tweaked the thumbnail generator so it only pulls I-frames for the .PNGs (instead of half-built P-frames from jumping into the middle of the stream), handles the fact the TS streams never start at zero-time and doesn't assume we want a 4:3 thumbnail (widescreen thumbnails!). There are still a few issues with the automatically generated thumbnails, but I'm planning to sort those next. It works so well I can't believe I wrote it all myself! I had a Saturday where it was recording two or three programs simultaneously for hours at a time and it performed flawlessly. Granted, this was before I had the conflict resolution or delayed recording pieces written, so I had to vet the recording schedule by hand to make sure there weren't any conflicts. That was a real brain-bender! These two start at 19:00, this one ends at 20:30 and this one starts at 20:30... If anyone is interested in using this, I'd be more than happy to send along the plugin and the necessary patches to other parts of the system. I'd say the plugin is definitely at a Release Candidate level: it works great but I still have more plans for it. At present it only works for recording... as I don't use the Freevo to watch live TV, I haven't looked into that area, but it should be theoretically possible. In fact, the HDHomerun Prime does targeted streaming, so it should be as easy as making mplayer listen and starting a stream from the HDHomerun. I do have plans for a page on the webserver that will allow one to easily start and control a stream to your computer, but that's still in the planning stages. Of course, all that would never have been possible without all of you, this wonderful, crazy community behind the Freevo. Dischi and Jason, nothing but the utmost respect and heartfelt thanks for leading this project. Thanks to you, I learned Python, finally got my head wrapped around object-oriented programming and have a functional DVR that I can tweak when I decide something isn't right about it. I wouldn't and likely couldn't have done any of it without your leadership on this one. Life changes, we all know that... and I certainly have no plans on abandoning my Freevo. MythTV and XBMC may be slicker and more fully featured, but Freevo is written in a language I understand and can play with. I'll happily accept being the less-than-cool kid on the block in exchange for that kind of freedom. My thanks extend to _everyone_ that has been a part of this journey, from the ones who rolled up their sleeves and dug into the guts of the system, to
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
what sad news indeed, but sensible, thanks for all the hard work, fyi the wiki can also be found at https://web.archive.org On Tue, 1/21/14, Phil Raymond tvp...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org) To: freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net, Dirk Meyer dis...@freevo.org, freevo-devel freevo-de...@lists.sourceforge.net Received: Tuesday, January 21, 2014, 10:38 AM I too will miss Freevo. Unfortunately, one of the functions version 2.0 leaves out, is the primary reason i used Freevo. To capture HD streams out of my cable box, using a Hauppauge HD PVR. Fortunately,I recently bought a new laptop and installed version 1.90. As long as it continues to work, I will use it. Thanks Dirk, for the many hours of work you put into Freevo, as well as everyone else who contributed in some way. Phil On Monday, January 20, 2014 1:49 PM, Jake j...@jakebriggs.com wrote: This is a sad day :( I used freevo for years but started using my TVs inbuilt dlna client when my last htpc died 3 years ago. It was a threadbare experience - but at least it didn't try to be too clever. I recently got a raspberry pi for xbmc, but I do miss freevo. It had the perfect mix of simplicity and features, my TVs dlna client is utterly braindead and xbmc tries to be too clever. Thanks for all your hard work Dirk! Dirk Meyer dis...@freevo.org wrote: Hi, I have no idea how many people still read this list, how many people still use Freevo 1.x, and how many people use 2.0 from git (I guess that is only me). I failed to get a release of Freevo 2 out. I changed too much, a complete rewrite and some parts are also written three or four times. My fault, I know -- an error made years ago and when noticed, it was too late to change it. And since I started a new job four years ago my time working on Freevo got smaller and smaller every month. Jason also is completely busy with his job. I still say Freevo 2 is ready to use, but I will not release it. I'm not sure it works with the latest clutter or gstreamer, I only know it works for me. It lacks many important features such as DVD playback (I have a BluRay Player) and TV recording. I do not need it and I don't have time to code it. Besides that, XBMC has a much bigger community, UPnP is enough for many people (even I use NAS + BubbleUPnP + TV sometimes) and new development such as Chromecast will reduce Freevo's usefulness even further. I will continue to use Freevo 2, I may even write an Android client for it (after learning Python with Freevo which was useful for getting my current job, hacking Android is a good next step), but I see no real future for Freevo without a live community and more people hacking code. If someone contributes something, I will add it. If someone needs help to get Freevo 2 running, I will provide it. Since we also lack someone maintaining the server we host and I do not want to pay for something we don't need, I will shut it down at the end of February. This means the SVN and the Wiki will be gone. If someone wants a backup of the Wiki please tell me. The code is already on github and will remain there. The mailing list on SF will continue and so will the mail server hosting freevo.org and all mail addresses will continue to be valid. Maybe after some time someone resurrects Freevo. I would love to pass the maintainership over to someone just as I took it over from Krister years ago. Maybe someone takes the kaa-stuff and writes something new and better. I'm happy to assist and I think the same is true for Jason. Maybe I will release something someday based on the current code. It was a great time, I learned a lot and it was much fun. Regards, Dischi CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- Jake -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -Inline Attachment Follows
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
I too will miss Freevo. Unfortunately, one of the functions version 2.0 leaves out, is the primary reason i used Freevo. To capture HD streams out of my cable box, using a Hauppauge HD PVR. Fortunately,I recently bought a new laptop and installed version 1.90. As long as it continues to work, I will use it. Thanks Dirk, for the many hours of work you put into Freevo, as well as everyone else who contributed in some way. Phil On Monday, January 20, 2014 1:49 PM, Jake j...@jakebriggs.com wrote: This is a sad day :( I used freevo for years but started using my TVs inbuilt dlna client when my last htpc died 3 years ago. It was a threadbare experience - but at least it didn't try to be too clever. I recently got a raspberry pi for xbmc, but I do miss freevo. It had the perfect mix of simplicity and features, my TVs dlna client is utterly braindead and xbmc tries to be too clever. Thanks for all your hard work Dirk! Dirk Meyer dis...@freevo.org wrote: Hi, I have no idea how many people still read this list, how many people still use Freevo 1.x, and how many people use 2.0 from git (I guess that is only me). I failed to get a release of Freevo 2 out. I changed too much, a complete rewrite and some parts are also written three or four times. My fault, I know -- an error made years ago and when noticed, it was too late to change it. And since I started a new job four years ago my time working on Freevo got smaller and smaller every month. Jason also is completely busy with his job. I still say Freevo 2 is ready to use, but I will not release it. I'm not sure it works with the latest clutter or gstreamer, I only know it works for me. It lacks many important features such as DVD playback (I have a BluRay Player) and TV recording. I do not need it and I don't have time to code it. Besides that, XBMC has a much bigger community, UPnP is enough for many people (even I use NAS + BubbleUPnP + TV sometimes) and new development such as Chromecast will reduce Freevo's usefulness even further. I will continue to use Freevo 2, I may even write an Android client for it (after learning Python with Freevo which was useful for getting my current job, hacking Android is a good next step), but I see no real future for Freevo without a live community and more people hacking code. If someone contributes something, I will add it. If someone needs help to get Freevo 2 running, I will provide it. Since we also lack someone maintaining the server we host and I do not want to pay for something we don't need, I will shut it down at the end of February. This means the SVN and the Wiki will be gone. If someone wants a backup of the Wiki please tell me. The code is already on github and will remain there. The mailing list on SF will continue and so will the mail server hosting freevo.org and all mail addresses will continue to be valid. Maybe after some time someone resurrects Freevo. I would love to pass the maintainership over to someone just as I took it over from Krister years ago. Maybe someone takes the kaa-stuff and writes something new and better. I'm happy to assist and I think the same is true for Jason. Maybe I will release something someday based on the current code. It was a great time, I learned a lot and it was much fun. Regards, Dischi CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- Jake -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users-- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
Hi, On 20.01.2014 23:02, Tuomas Tonteri wrote: I used Freevo 1.x for years as HTPC only letting it go a year or two ago as I didn't anymore need any multimedia center. As it worked great, I had no reason to upgrade to anything else including Freevo 2. I'm happy that there are still Freevo 1.x users here. Anyway, about the server shutdown: - Will the freevo web page (http://freevo.sourceforge.net/index.php) still remain? Yes. Only the SVN and the Wiki will be gone. The SVN should be no problem, the code already is on github. https://github.com/freevo/freevo1 I also do see no reason to terminate the Sourceforge part of the project. Therefore, website and mailing lists still remain. I will also keep freevo.org registered so http://www.freevo.org will continue to redirect to SF using a different webserver I share with friends. Regards, Dischi -- Don't play stupid with me - I'm better at it! -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
hei Dishi and all remainig freevo users I as well learned Python while hacking freevo, and I use still 1.9.2b since I wrote some plugins for my favorite remote and for my 2 line LCD and for my audio and for gaming, and and and... and this is the reason why I am waiting for my next media center experiments with whatever... and I am afrait that I will miss the great flexibility of Freevo! have a nice time Andreas Am Montag, 20. Januar 2014, 19.38:23 schrieb Dirk Meyer: Hi, I have no idea how many people still read this list, how many people still use Freevo 1.x, and how many people use 2.0 from git (I guess that is only me). I failed to get a release of Freevo 2 out. I changed too much, a complete rewrite and some parts are also written three or four times. My fault, I know -- an error made years ago and when noticed, it was too late to change it. And since I started a new job four years ago my time working on Freevo got smaller and smaller every month. Jason also is completely busy with his job. I still say Freevo 2 is ready to use, but I will not release it. I'm not sure it works with the latest clutter or gstreamer, I only know it works for me. It lacks many important features such as DVD playback (I have a BluRay Player) and TV recording. I do not need it and I don't have time to code it. Besides that, XBMC has a much bigger community, UPnP is enough for many people (even I use NAS + BubbleUPnP + TV sometimes) and new development such as Chromecast will reduce Freevo's usefulness even further. I will continue to use Freevo 2, I may even write an Android client for it (after learning Python with Freevo which was useful for getting my current job, hacking Android is a good next step), but I see no real future for Freevo without a live community and more people hacking code. If someone contributes something, I will add it. If someone needs help to get Freevo 2 running, I will provide it. Since we also lack someone maintaining the server we host and I do not want to pay for something we don't need, I will shut it down at the end of February. This means the SVN and the Wiki will be gone. If someone wants a backup of the Wiki please tell me. The code is already on github and will remain there. The mailing list on SF will continue and so will the mail server hosting freevo.org and all mail addresses will continue to be valid. Maybe after some time someone resurrects Freevo. I would love to pass the maintainership over to someone just as I took it over from Krister years ago. Maybe someone takes the kaa-stuff and writes something new and better. I'm happy to assist and I think the same is true for Jason. Maybe I will release something someday based on the current code. It was a great time, I learned a lot and it was much fun. Regards, Dischi -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
This is a sad day :( I used freevo for years but started using my TVs inbuilt dlna client when my last htpc died 3 years ago. It was a threadbare experience - but at least it didn't try to be too clever. I recently got a raspberry pi for xbmc, but I do miss freevo. It had the perfect mix of simplicity and features, my TVs dlna client is utterly braindead and xbmc tries to be too clever. Thanks for all your hard work Dirk! Dirk Meyer dis...@freevo.org wrote: Hi, I have no idea how many people still read this list, how many people still use Freevo 1.x, and how many people use 2.0 from git (I guess that is only me). I failed to get a release of Freevo 2 out. I changed too much, a complete rewrite and some parts are also written three or four times. My fault, I know -- an error made years ago and when noticed, it was too late to change it. And since I started a new job four years ago my time working on Freevo got smaller and smaller every month. Jason also is completely busy with his job. I still say Freevo 2 is ready to use, but I will not release it. I'm not sure it works with the latest clutter or gstreamer, I only know it works for me. It lacks many important features such as DVD playback (I have a BluRay Player) and TV recording. I do not need it and I don't have time to code it. Besides that, XBMC has a much bigger community, UPnP is enough for many people (even I use NAS + BubbleUPnP + TV sometimes) and new development such as Chromecast will reduce Freevo's usefulness even further. I will continue to use Freevo 2, I may even write an Android client for it (after learning Python with Freevo which was useful for getting my current job, hacking Android is a good next step), but I see no real future for Freevo without a live community and more people hacking code. If someone contributes something, I will add it. If someone needs help to get Freevo 2 running, I will provide it. Since we also lack someone maintaining the server we host and I do not want to pay for something we don't need, I will shut it down at the end of February. This means the SVN and the Wiki will be gone. If someone wants a backup of the Wiki please tell me. The code is already on github and will remain there. The mailing list on SF will continue and so will the mail server hosting freevo.org and all mail addresses will continue to be valid. Maybe after some time someone resurrects Freevo. I would love to pass the maintainership over to someone just as I took it over from Krister years ago. Maybe someone takes the kaa-stuff and writes something new and better. I'm happy to assist and I think the same is true for Jason. Maybe I will release something someday based on the current code. It was a great time, I learned a lot and it was much fun. Regards, Dischi -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- Jake-- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
A sad day indeed! Quite a few years ago I tried to get Freevo running on a Fujitsu HTPC but, no matter how I tried, I just couldn't get a signal out of the SCART socket - something quite basic one would have thought. Loads of people on the web with the same problem but no solution. So I shelved the project until, ironically, I got a Smart TV with a new-fangled HDMI connection and I'm now using REL-1_9_2b2. I did consider moving to version 2 but, quite frankly, I've invested too many years of my life in getting Freevo working at all and, more importantly, working the way I want it. Not only do I think it looks pretty cool (is it still cool to say 'cool'), but so does my wife and that's saying something. Sure I tried XBMC along the way but I don't like its look and feel. Although I do admit to ripping some code from it to create an ITV Player (I'm in the UK) for Freevo. Also, I created several other TV 'catch-up' players from scratch. I can also watch my security camera via Freevo and it's integrated with my Asterisk PBX. In fact, just this minute I've managed to get it to play my voice messages. As an old assembler programmer, I've taught myself some basic Python and thoroughly enjoyed, and will continue to enjoy, working with the Freevo infrastructure. I suppose I'd better take some backups. Very many thanks to all involved Freevo and best wishes for the future. Sob. Sob. John Percival. Jake j...@jakebriggs.com wrote:This is a sad day :( I used freevo for years but started using my TVs inbuilt dlna client when my last htpc died 3 years ago. It was a threadbare experience - but at least it didn't try to be too clever. I recently got a raspberry pi for xbmc, but I do miss freevo. It had the perfect mix of simplicity and features, my TVs dlna client is utterly braindead and xbmc tries to be too clever. Thanks for all your hard work Dirk! Dirk Meyer dis...@freevo.org wrote:Hi, I have no idea how many people still read this list, how many people still use Freevo 1.x, and how many people use 2.0 from git (I guess that is only me). I failed to get a release of Freevo 2 out. I changed too much, a complete rewrite and some parts are also written three or four times. My fault, I know -- an error made years ago and when noticed, it was too late to change it. And since I started a new job four years ago my time working on Freevo got smaller and smaller every month. Jason also is completely busy with his job. I still say Freevo 2 is ready to use, but I will not release it. I'm not sure it works with the latest clutter or gstreamer, I only know it works for me. It lacks many important features such as DVD playback (I have a BluRay Player) and TV recording. I do not need it and I don't have time to code it. Besides that, XBMC has a much biggercommunity, UPnP is enough for many people (even I use NAS + BubbleUPnP + TV sometimes) and new development such as Chromecast will reduce Freevo's usefulness even further. I will continue to use Freevo 2, I may even write an Android client for it (after learning Python with Freevo which was useful for getting my current job, hacking Android is a good next step), but I see no real future for Freevo without a live community and more people hacking code. If someone contributes something, I will add it. If someone needs help to get Freevo 2 running, I will provide it. Since we also lack someone maintaining the server we host and I do not want to pay for something we don't need, I will shut it down at the end of February. This means the SVN and the Wiki will be gone. If someone wants a backup of the Wiki please tell me. The code is already on github and will remain there. The mailing list on SF will continue andso will the mail server hosting freevo.org and all mail addresses will continue to be valid. Maybe after some time someone resurrects Freevo. I would love to pass the maintainership over to someone just as I took it over from Krister years ago. Maybe someone takes the kaa-stuff and writes something new and better. I'm happy to assist and I think the same is true for Jason. Maybe I will release something someday based on the current code. It was a great time, I learned a lot and it was much fun. Regards, Dischi CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- Jake-- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:31:59 +1300 Jake j...@jakebriggs.com wrote: This is a sad day :( I used freevo for years but started using my TVs inbuilt dlna client when my last htpc died 3 years ago. It was a threadbare experience - but at least it didn't try to be too clever. I recently got a raspberry pi for xbmc, but I do miss freevo. It had the perfect mix of simplicity and features, my TVs dlna client is utterly braindead and xbmc tries to be too clever. Thanks for all your hard work Dirk! I'll continue with Freevo 1.x on my tv box. It's been reliable - more reliable than the hardware, which is now V4. The Freevo 1.x wiki was last archived by archive.org in May http://web.archive.org/web/20130527124511/http://doc.freevo.org/ and the 'recent changes' page says last change in Feb, so that is still available. Thanks Dischi, Jason, and everyone else. -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
Hi, I used Freevo 1.x for years as HTPC only letting it go a year or two ago as I didn't anymore need any multimedia center. As it worked great, I had no reason to upgrade to anything else including Freevo 2. Simply loved the things it could do. It could play _any_ music files, even midi to hardware midi synthesizers, it could also play _any_ standard definition video file with great RGB picture quality to CRT TV using matrox hardware. I don't think there is anything else out there that can do these things. In fact even with modern hardware it has the same strengths so for anyone requiring some special functionality Freevo is still the way to go. Anyway, about the server shutdown: - Will the freevo web page (http://freevo.sourceforge.net/index.php) still remain? If not, I can host the web page BUT this would be on a home server that can easily have a day or two downtime now and then and very rarely even longer. However, the server has remained up for I guess 10 years now and I plan on keeping it up for years to come. I can also host a version of the wiki that is non-editable. If you don't get better offers then please contact me Dirk and we will set it up. -- Tuomas Tonteri On 20.01.2014 20:38, Dirk Meyer wrote: Hi, I have no idea how many people still read this list, how many people still use Freevo 1.x, and how many people use 2.0 from git (I guess that is only me). I failed to get a release of Freevo 2 out. I changed too much, a complete rewrite and some parts are also written three or four times. My fault, I know -- an error made years ago and when noticed, it was too late to change it. And since I started a new job four years ago my time working on Freevo got smaller and smaller every month. Jason also is completely busy with his job. I still say Freevo 2 is ready to use, but I will not release it. I'm not sure it works with the latest clutter or gstreamer, I only know it works for me. It lacks many important features such as DVD playback (I have a BluRay Player) and TV recording. I do not need it and I don't have time to code it. Besides that, XBMC has a much bigger community, UPnP is enough for many people (even I use NAS + BubbleUPnP + TV sometimes) and new development such as Chromecast will reduce Freevo's usefulness even further. I will continue to use Freevo 2, I may even write an Android client for it (after learning Python with Freevo which was useful for getting my current job, hacking Android is a good next step), but I see no real future for Freevo without a live community and more people hacking code. If someone contributes something, I will add it. If someone needs help to get Freevo 2 running, I will provide it. Since we also lack someone maintaining the server we host and I do not want to pay for something we don't need, I will shut it down at the end of February. This means the SVN and the Wiki will be gone. If someone wants a backup of the Wiki please tell me. The code is already on github and will remain there. The mailing list on SF will continue and so will the mail server hosting freevo.org and all mail addresses will continue to be valid. Maybe after some time someone resurrects Freevo. I would love to pass the maintainership over to someone just as I took it over from Krister years ago. Maybe someone takes the kaa-stuff and writes something new and better. I'm happy to assist and I think the same is true for Jason. Maybe I will release something someday based on the current code. It was a great time, I learned a lot and it was much fun. Regards, Dischi -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
