Re: [FRIAM] A hundred words for swindle
Why do you list KBJ as "less savory"? tx, Thinko/Typo - Barrett got transmogrified too many hypenated names for my pea brain? Are there 99 words for sloppy/lazy language/thought/expression? I am not sure what to think about Roberts... he seems to have a better, centered view of his role than the other Conservatives? I don't believe he's been implicated in any of the things Alito and esp. Thomas have been? Or maybe my bar is low. I want to believe the Judiciary can be above politics but that might just be a fantasy? Opposite 100 words for swindle and snow, what of ancient Mediterranean cultures maybe having none for "blue" (because it is so ubiquitous as to be invisible)? Or 99 names of God (Allah version)? On 3/31/24 12:40, Steve Smith wrote: ... even the less savory ( to my pinko-liberal palate) of the high bench (Thomas/Alito/Kavanaugh/Brown, in descending order?) are as able and serious as Breyer came across in this interview... -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
Re: [FRIAM] A hundred words for swindle
Why do you list KBJ as "less savory"? On 3/31/24 12:40, Steve Smith wrote: ... even the less savory ( to my pinko-liberal palate) of the high bench (Thomas/Alito/Kavanaugh/Brown, in descending order?) are as able and serious as Breyer came across in this interview... -- ꙮ Mɥǝu ǝlǝdɥɐuʇs ɟᴉƃɥʇ' ʇɥǝ ƃɹɐss snɟɟǝɹs˙ ꙮ -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
Re: [FRIAM] A hundred words for swindle
Speaking of airplane mode, I wonder how many Starlink satellites could be damaged from a big coronal mass ejection? If the computers get fried, how do deorbit protocols work? From: Friam On Behalf Of Roger Critchlow Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2024 6:08 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] A hundred words for swindle The web apps were originally done while I was in Boston, I like the idea of web pages which can be downloaded and installed on your phone, or tablet, or laptop to provide entertainment while trapped in airplane mode. change.elf.org <http://change.elf.org> - the iching in multiple translations which install lazily, once you install the app and access the version. mahjong.elf.org <http://mahjong.elf.org> - mahjong solitaire, recently updated to allow backtrack to arbitrary points in the discard pile. hp15c.elf.org <http://hp15c.elf.org> - a web app wrapper around the HP15C calculator emulator written by Greg Hewgill. moons.elf.org <http://moons.elf.org> - a lunar phase graphic calendar, due for an update, too. I'm working on some more. -- rec -- On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 1:40 PM Steve Smith mailto:sasm...@swcp.com> > wrote: RECelf - I know I visited your Entropy Liberation Front site before but somehow missed you iChing app/workup. In particular the different casting distributions were particularly illuminating. I favor (out of convenience) the six-scored-as-two method and was shocked to see in a single glance how different all others are from the (traditional/preferred?) yarrow stick https://change.elf.org/tests smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
Re: [FRIAM] A hundred words for swindle
The web apps were originally done while I was in Boston, I like the idea of web pages which can be downloaded and installed on your phone, or tablet, or laptop to provide entertainment while trapped in airplane mode. change.elf.org - the iching in multiple translations which install lazily, once you install the app and access the version. mahjong.elf.org - mahjong solitaire, recently updated to allow backtrack to arbitrary points in the discard pile. hp15c.elf.org - a web app wrapper around the HP15C calculator emulator written by Greg Hewgill. moons.elf.org - a lunar phase graphic calendar, due for an update, too. I'm working on some more. -- rec -- On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 1:40 PM Steve Smith wrote: > RECelf - > > > I know I visited your Entropy Liberation Front site before but somehow > missed you iChing app/workup. In particular the different casting > distributions were particularly illuminating. I favor (out of > convenience) the six-scored-as-two method and was shocked to see in a > single glance how different all others are from the > (traditional/preferred?) yarrow stick > > https://change.elf.org/tests > > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
Re: [FRIAM] A hundred words for swindle
RECelf - I know I visited your Entropy Liberation Front site before but somehow missed you iChing app/workup. In particular the different casting distributions were particularly illuminating. I favor (out of convenience) the six-scored-as-two method and was shocked to see in a single glance how different all others are from the (traditional/preferred?) yarrow stick https://change.elf.org/tests Returning to the OS of "swindle", there was a time when I dismissed "divination" as nothing more than a mechanism for one to "swindle" another or at best for one to "swindle oneself". I've had an early Wilhelm/Baynes edition of the I Ching for most of my adult life and use it as an occasional tool for introspection and intuition exploration. In modern, computational terms, it feels a bit like "Reservoir Computing" in the sense that the text of the I Ching (or any other divinatory or oracular body of work?) is the reservoir, the "casting" (including "the question) is the input signal and the output is the reading with the *interpretation* being where the output layer undergoes "training". A practiced divinator/oracle develops an intuition over many iterative "readings" as to how to interpret the reading in-context. I happen to be listening to Justice Breyer on Meet the Press (with Christen Welker?) expounding on his opinion of "textualism" and "rule of law" which probably has some relationship (correlated/anti-correlated) with oracular/divinational texts? (too) Many people take the route of treating everything from Golden Rule to Hammurabi to Upanishads to Ten Commandments to Torah to Koran to Bible to Magna Carta to US (or any) Constitution to case law as Oracular/Divination text? I do recommend the MTP interview with Breyer demonstrating what I suspect "the best" of our Highest Court should/could be. I'd like to think that even the less savory ( to my pinko-liberal palate) of the high bench (Thomas/Alito/Kavanaugh/Brown, in descending order?) are as able and serious as Breyer came across in this interview... His tone was that of the "elder statesman" we all once imagined (or ached) to be in the hallowed halls of DC (even if he is a Judge not Exec or Legislator)? He managed a very positive tone/affect resisting Welker in spite of her pressing him hard on many things we all might want to hear his opinion on. - SASfrass On 3/31/24 12:42 PM, Steve Smith wrote: /Sucker born every minute?/ /Fool me twice, shame on me? / Talking with John Zingale at Friam about conniving chatbots, I remembered this essay from 2009, https://elf.org/etc/swindle.html, which starts from real estate speculators in early US history and gets to the deplorable state of the internet. -- rec -- -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoomhttps://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribehttp://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIChttp://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru presenthttps://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoomhttps://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribehttp://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIChttp://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru presenthttps://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/-. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
Re: [FRIAM] A hundred words for swindle
I suppose it's a bot. An alleged young woman contacted me and asked me to promise not to enter into text conversations with any other women. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sat, Mar 30, 2024, 6:01 PM Roger Critchlow wrote: > Talking with John Zingale at Friam about conniving chatbots, I > remembered this essay from 2009, https://elf.org/etc/swindle.html, which > starts from real estate speculators in early US history and gets to the > deplorable state of the internet. > > -- rec -- > > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
Re: [FRIAM] A hundred words for swindle
/Sucker born every minute?/ /Fool me twice, shame on me? / Talking with John Zingale at Friam about conniving chatbots, I remembered this essay from 2009, https://elf.org/etc/swindle.html, which starts from real estate speculators in early US history and gets to the deplorable state of the internet. -- rec -- -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoomhttps://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribehttp://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIChttp://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru presenthttps://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/-. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
