Re: FVWM: starting up applications
On Wednesday 23 September 2009 23:28:03 Darren Upsolla wrote: i want to remove the rudenes and = arogence from it - its shit to read The only rudeness and arrogance I have seen stems entirely from you. You seem to be unable to write anything that is either pleasant or lucid, and to have a very inflated opinion of your own importance. I have always found Thomas to be polite and exceptionally helpful (as well as very bright and well informed); and was very sorry when he left another list I subscribe to. Lisi
FVWM: Transient windows on the Desktop
Hi. When I try to delete a file on my desktop (run by Nautilus), a transient window opens (Permanently delete?) The window is below all other windows, and can't be raised. (I guess because it is tied to the root-window.) This behaviour makes sense when I delete something in a normal Nautilus window, because the transient window is then tied to a normal window, which can be raised/lowered. But when the transient is tied to the Desktop, it is quite annoying, because I have to move the other windows to - essentially - dig down to the Really delete? transient window below. Is it possible to configure FVWM to ignore the transient property when the parent window is the Desktop? (I have tried looking in the man-page, at all the stuff concerning transients, but it looks like it mostly is about what should happen with the parent if you lower/raise a transient window.) Or should I patch Nautilus instead, to not make the window transient, if it is going to be tied to the Desktop? I am using Nautilus 2.28.0 and FVWM 2.5.28 on a Debian sid amd64 machine. Best regards, Adam -- Fra én som sover for lidt, Adam Sjøgren som synes verden er stor a...@koldfront.dk
Re: FVWM: Transient windows on the Desktop
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:28:55 +0100, Thomas wrote: When I try to delete a file on my desktop (run by Nautilus), a transient window opens (Permanently delete?) The window is below all other windows, and can't be raised. (I guess because it is tied to the root-window.) No -- it's because those window are children of the Nautilus-desktop window that nautilus draws over the root window. Ah. More complicated than I guessed... FVWM can only raise that window with respect to its parent, but remember that the other windows, such as your terminals will be children of the root window (that's the *real* root window) -- do the two don't relate -- and FVWM can only manipulate this dialogue window with respect to its parent. Ok. Well, I don't think I understood, because if I did, I would not expect the fix you proposed to work. But: So, I would guess what you need to do is something like this@ Style Nautilus Layer 20 (I had to google for the classname of Nautilus, but it seems right.) Changing the Layer works beautifully. Thank you ever so much! - This has been annoying me to no end. o o o The only annoying problem I have left with Nautilus and FVWM is if I try to rename something on the desktop: Nautilus changes the text under the icon to a text-box, but I can't type into it. It doesn't gets focus, for some reason. (I'm using SloppyFocus.) It works fine if the icon isn't on the desktop, i.e. is in a Nautilus folder-window. Thanks again, Adam -- Who ees thees Kählveen?Adam Sjøgren a...@koldfront.dk
Re: FVWM: Transient windows on the Desktop
2009/9/24 Adam Sjøgren a...@koldfront.dk: The only annoying problem I have left with Nautilus and FVWM is if I try to rename something on the desktop: Nautilus changes the text under the icon to a text-box, but I can't type into it. It doesn't gets focus, for some reason. (I'm using SloppyFocus.) That will be some oddity with the underlying window again most likely, but this won't be an FVWM issue. -- Thomas Adam
Re: FVWM: Transient windows on the Desktop
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:01:47 +0100, Thomas wrote: 2009/9/24 Adam Sjøgren a...@koldfront.dk: Nautilus changes the text under the icon to a text-box, but I can't type into it. It doesn't gets focus, for some reason. (I'm using SloppyFocus.) That will be some oddity with the underlying window again most likely, but this won't be an FVWM issue. Ok, I will go and annoy the Nautilus people about that one. Thanks! Adam -- The unavoidable price of reliability is simplicity Adam Sjøgren a...@koldfront.dk
Re: FVWM: starting up applications
200909241730.29950.lisi.re...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 From: lisi.re...@gmail.com To: fvwm@fvwm.org Subject: Re: FVWM: starting up applications Date: Thu=2C 24 Sep 2009 17:30:29 +0100 On Wednesday 23 September 2009 23:28:03 Darren Upsolla wrote: i want to remove the rudenes and =3D arogence from it - its shit to read The only rudeness and arrogance I have seen stems entirely from you. You = seem to be unable to write anything that is either pleasant or lucid=2C and to= have a very inflated opinion of your own importance. who are you sorry? do you use or work with fvwm I have always found Thomas to be polite and exceptionally helpful (as wel= l as very bright and well informed)=3B and was very sorry when he left another= list I subscribe to. so what? i havent and i want him to drop dead and never work with this fvwm= project Darren =0A= _=0A= Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that=92s right for you.=0A= http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=3Dftp_val_wl_290=
FVWM: Taking a break...
Hi all, It umm, well it seems I can't quite deal with this how I'd like, so for the benefit of the project, I think I will take a short break -- I appreciate sticks and stones and all that, but when someone has repeatedly wished you would drop dead, it is a little dis-heartening. So I will take a break and possibly come back. -- Thomas Adam
Re: FVWM: starting up applications
DU == Darren Upsolla abovefrombe...@hotmail.com writes: DU i havent and i want him to drop dead and never work with DU this fvwm project This behavior is unacceptable. In all my years participating in this project I have not seen anything so reprehensible, and I will not stand for it. - J (the list owner)
Re: FVWM: Taking a break...
Thomas Adam thomas.ada...@gmail.com writes: Hi all, It umm, well it seems I can't quite deal with this how I'd like, so for the benefit of the project, I think I will take a short break -- I appreciate sticks and stones and all that, but when someone has repeatedly wished you would drop dead, it is a little dis-heartening. So I will take a break and possibly come back. Hey Thomas, enjoy the break but please come back!! atb Glyn
Re: FVWM: Taking a break...
Thomas Adam wrote: Hi all, It umm, well it seems I can't quite deal with this how I'd like, so for the benefit of the project, I think I will take a short break -- I appreciate sticks and stones and all that, but when someone has repeatedly wished you would drop dead, it is a little dis-heartening. So I will take a break and possibly come back. -- Thomas Adam Best of luck to you Thomas. Over the years I have grown to appreciate and enjoy your insights and how much you have helped the FVWM community. I know you will find a place in which you will be truly appreciated for your generosity and ability. Here is wishing to see you again. jaimos
Re: FVWM: starting up applications
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III ti...@math.uh.edu wrote: DU == Darren Upsolla abovefrombe...@hotmail.com writes: DU i havent and i want him to drop dead and never work with DU this fvwm project This behavior is unacceptable. In all my years participating in this project I have not seen anything so reprehensible, and I will not stand for it. - J (the list owner) I wish this character would have been banned several posts ago. Anyone spouting off like that without any constructive value has no place in any forum such as this. The humor of someone with very little skill in the English language complaining about documentation is quickly lost when the episode diverts real time from serious work. So what is to keep the limitless cash of corporate behemoths from poisoning forums such as this with cheap outsourced labor? If our good friend Thomas now needs to take a break, that scenario certainly seems plausible. Early on in the tirade, the hotmail address ticked my paranoia side. But even if it is not the case this time, it could happen in the future. Thank you Lisi for putting to words what I should have said sooner. -- Jason Weber (13 years using fvwm)
Re: FVWM: starting up applications
JW == Jason Weber bab...@imonk.com writes: JW I wish this character would have been banned several posts JW ago. I hadn't seen the offensive posts until today, and nobody reported them to me. JW So what is to keep the limitless cash of corporate behemoths from JW poisoning forums such as this with cheap outsourced labor? This seems a non sequitur to me. - J
Re: FVWM: starting up applications
Jason Weber bab...@imonk.com writes: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III ti...@math.uh.edu wrote: JW == Jason Weber bab...@imonk.com writes: JW So what is to keep the limitless cash of corporate behemoths from JW poisoning forums such as this with cheap outsourced labor? This seems a non sequitur to me. I suggest the possibility that some day,,, Nope, 6 or 7 billion people in the world. Lots of them with internet access. They're coming out of the woodwork.
