Re: FVWM: initialmapcommand with restart

2010-03-17 Thread Thomas Adam
On 16 March 2010 21:36, David Chanters david.chant...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On 16 March 2010 21:15, Thomas Adam tho...@xteddy.org wrote:
 No, I am afraid not.  Before I fixed it, it was broken.  I can't even think

 i dont like this - can you add an option to keep the old behavior?

Sorry, but to revert this would just be wrong -- so the answer is no.

I suggest you restate what it is you thought you had with the old (and
*broken*) behaviour, and then I will suggest to you:

* Ultimately why you were wrong to make that assumption.
* An alternative solution.

Although I suspect, given my previous reply to you, it's going to go unheeded.

-- Thomas Adam



Re: FVWM: initialmapcommand with restart

2010-03-17 Thread despen
David Chanters david.chant...@googlemail.com writes:

 On 17 March 2010 15:53, Thomas Adam tho...@xteddy.org wrote:
 On 16 March 2010 21:36, David Chanters david.chant...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On 16 March 2010 21:15, Thomas Adam tho...@xteddy.org wrote:
 No, I am afraid not.  Before I fixed it, it was broken.  I can't even think

 i dont like this - can you add an option to keep the old behavior?

 Sorry, but to revert this would just be wrong -- so the answer is no.

 i find this unreasonable. i liked the old behavior because if i had
 put the window minimized when fvwm restarted it wouldnt be minimized
 anymore.

 so please revert this - or get someone else to do it if you cant

Maybe you should describe what you want again.

The way I understand your request, you are asking for Fvwm to
un-minimize windows on a restart.

Fvwm is supposed to restore windows to their previous state and position
on a restart.  Doing anything else is a bug.



Re: FVWM: initialmapcommand with restart

2010-03-17 Thread David Chanters
On 17 March 2010 22:00,  des...@verizon.net wrote:
 The way I understand your request, you are asking for Fvwm to
 un-minimize windows on a restart.

or any window that id used initialmapcommand on - it was useful if id
done something to these windows to put them in their original state
when restarting fvwm

 Fvwm is supposed to restore windows to their previous state and position
 on a restart.  Doing anything else is a bug.

so i keep being told but i think thats unacceptable

David



Re: FVWM: initialmapcommand with restart

2010-03-17 Thread Perry Hutchison
 The way I understand your request, you are asking for Fvwm
 to un-minimize windows on a restart.

That's the impression I got, also.

 Fvwm is supposed to restore windows to their previous state
 and position on a restart.  Doing anything else is a bug.

Perhaps the OP needs to put a command in RestartFunction to
DeIconify all windows?



Re: FVWM: initialmapcommand with restart

2010-03-17 Thread David Chanters
On 17 March 2010 22:10, David Chanters david.chant...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On 17 March 2010 22:00,  des...@verizon.net wrote:
 The way I understand your request, you are asking for Fvwm to
 un-minimize windows on a restart.

 or any window that id used initialmapcommand on - it was useful if id
 done something to these windows to put them in their original state
 when restarting fvwm

 Fvwm is supposed to restore windows to their previous state and position
 on a restart.  Doing anything else is a bug.

 so i keep being told but i think thats unacceptable

also - why isnt anyone peer-reviewing these changes? these decisions
need discussion - no one seems to do that - why is any idiot allowed
to commit changes like this without discussion?

David



Re: FVWM: initialmapcommand with restart

2010-03-17 Thread Thomas Adam
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 03:14:43PM -0700, Perry Hutchison wrote:
 Perhaps the OP needs to put a command in RestartFunction to
 DeIconify all windows?

No!  Not RestartFunction.  Please.  Use:

AddToFunc StartFunction I Test (Restart) Foo

You *only* need RestartFunction if you're using FVWM 2.4.X -- which for most
people is unlikely.

-- Thomas Adam

-- 
It was the cruelest game I've ever played and it's played inside my head.
-- Hush The Warmth, Gorky's Zygotic Mynci.



Re: FVWM: initialmapcommand with restart

2010-03-17 Thread Thomas Adam
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:15:00PM +, David Chanters wrote:
 also - why isnt anyone peer-reviewing these changes? these decisions
 need discussion - no one seems to do that - why is any idiot allowed
 to commit changes like this without discussion?

Because this idiot knew it was the right thing to do?

Getting defensive and potentially hostile over something isn't going to
really motivate people to help you -- although see my previous reply to you
anyway -- call it a good-will gesture on my part to help you resolve your
previous reliance on broken behaviour.

-- Thomas Adam

-- 
It was the cruelest game I've ever played and it's played inside my head.
-- Hush The Warmth, Gorky's Zygotic Mynci.