Re: FVWM: Fixing and Docking

[Tim Johnson]

* Jaimos Skriletz  [160628 15:43]:
<...> 
> ​Yes, Swallow means to take a window and put it inside of FvwmButtons.
> 
> For example here is my FvwmButtons (it doesn't contain FvwmIconMan which
> gives a list of running windows, but I just use WindowList for that).
> 
> Here is the config I use
  This is great and will prove to be very informative : Thanks a
  lot!


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Re: FVWM: Fixing and Docking

[Tim Johnson]

* Jaimos Skriletz <jaimosskril...@boisestate.edu> [160628 14:54]:
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Tim Johnson <t...@akwebsoft.com> wrote:
> 
> > I would like to do the two following things with taskbar (as invoked
> > by FvwmTaskbar) :
> >
> >
> ​FvwmTaskBar has been removed, use FvwmButtons + FvwmIconMan instead. This
> gives you more flexibility to swallow different launchers, buttons, apps,
> etc.
> ​
> 
> 
> > 1)Render taskbar as fixed (no autohide) so that when windows are
> > maximized, they do not overlap taskbar (or vice versa).
> > Currently, there is overlapping and the windows have to be resized
> > manually so that they "fit".
> >
> >
> ​You can use ​EwmhBaseStruts to reserve area of the screen that is used
> when maximizing windows and placing windows. This can be used to keep
> windows from covering the panel when maximizing.
> 
> 
> > 2)"Dock" apps in the taskbar as per gnome or my fluxbox config.
> >
> >
> ​I'm unsure what you mean by Dock apps. If you want to make a launcher use
> FvwmButtons and you can make your own custom launchers. If you mean
> something like a system tray you'll have to use a third party app, such as
> stalonetray (which I swallow inside of FvwmButtons).

  I can _launch_ apps easily by constructing menus and keymapping.
  It's very similar in fluxbox.

  You are correct in that I am looking for "something like a system
  tray".

  You have given me names of modules necessary to meet my ends and
  for that I now have a better footing or starting point.

  Every system has it's own idiomatic syntax. The one I'm just
  beginning to grok is 'swallow'.  

  Do I understand that 'swallow' means to put one object inside of
  another?
  
  With that question answered and the module names, I can procede to
  "roll my own". :) But I wouldn't reject any further tips ...

  Thanks, Jaimos
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FVWM: Fixing and Docking

[Tim Johnson]

I would like to do the two following things with taskbar (as invoked
by FvwmTaskbar) :

1)Render taskbar as fixed (no autohide) so that when windows are
maximized, they do not overlap taskbar (or vice versa).
Currently, there is overlapping and the windows have to be resized
manually so that they "fit".

2)"Dock" apps in the taskbar as per gnome or my fluxbox config.

I'm having some difficulty googling this subject. I'm finding that
there may be issues with taskbar and that there may be alternatives
including FvwmIconMan.

My FvwmTaskbar is available upon request. I'm up to "rolling my
own" taskbar if I had pointers to a starting point.

thanks
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Re: FVWM: Recommend Config for Fluxbox user

[Tim Johnson]

* Thomas Adam  [160625 06:41]:
> On 24 June 2016 at 01:23, lee  wrote:
> > A configuration created with the hopes of being somewhat helpful for
> > users wanting to learn how to configure fvwm can be obtained like this:
> 
> Be careful with that intention, not matter how we meaning it is.
<...>
I got ("git'ed") git://dawn.adminart.net/fvwm.git for reasons of
possible edification, however Thomas Funk's recommendation of "Setup
Form" was just what I needed. It gave me a basic, sane beginning,
and keywords for searches. 

Being a homestead kind of person, having a window manager that I can
design from the ground up is right up my alley.

Quoting T. Funk: "Up to Fvwm version 2.6.6 you could use the "Setup
Form" in the Builtin Menu" et. al. 

Do I take that to mean that Setup Form has been discarded after
later versions? If so, replaced at all?

thanks
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Re: FVWM: Recommend Config for Fluxbox user

[Tim Johnson]

* Tim Johnson <t...@akwebsoft.com> [160621 07:30]:
<...> > Up to Fvwm version 2.6.6 you could use the "Setup Form" in the Builtin 
> > Menu (single left click anywhere on the desktop). A good starting 
> > configuration is
> > - FvwmIconMan
> > - FvwmPager
> > - FvwmTaskBar
> > 
> > or
> > 
> > - FvwmButtons
> > 
> > Mark them, click "Copy ...", "Restart ..." and you have it.
> > > 
> > >   But, from that I was not even able to grok how to close a window. Or 
> > > get a
> > >   window menu. 
> > 
> > After a Fvwm restart the windows have now some buttons:
> > left:  a minus => shows a window menu
> > right: a dot => minimize and a square => maximize
> > 
> > Hope this helps.
  That's what I needed. The essential bootstrap. I'm good to go..
  thank you
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Re: FVWM: Recommend Config for Fluxbox user

[Tim Johnson]

* Thomas Funk <t.f...@web.de> [160621 01:07]:
> "Tim Johnson" <t...@akwebsoft.com> wrote:
> >   Sorry about the mixup. On my system, .fvwm is created on the first
> >   invocation and file Version is contain in that directory.
> > 
> >   For those unfamiliar with fluxbox, I could just use some config
> >   that enables easy access to window menus. With the vanilla config,
> >   I couldn't even find a way to close a window (other than
> >   terminating the child app).
> 
> Up to Fvwm version 2.6.6 you could use the "Setup Form" in the Builtin 
> Menu (single left click anywhere on the desktop). A good starting 
> configuration is
> - FvwmIconMan
> - FvwmPager
> - FvwmTaskBar
> 
> or
> 
> - FvwmButtons
> 
> Mark them, click "Copy ...", "Restart ..." and you have it.
> > 
> >   But, from that I was not even able to grok how to close a window. Or get a
> >   window menu. 
> 
> After a Fvwm restart the windows have now some buttons:
> left:  a minus => shows a window menu
> right: a dot => minimize and a square => maximize
> 
> Hope this helps.
  Thank you Thomas. 
  I know this will help. I'll get to it shortly.
  regards
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Re: FVWM: Recommend Config for Fluxbox user

[Tim Johnson]

* Tim Johnson <t...@akwebsoft.com> [160620 16:48]:
> Hello :
> 
> This is partly to test my assimilation into the fvwm mailing list,
> and in part for a recommendation or recommendations.
> 
> I have installed fvwm 3.2.7 on an 64-bit Ubuntu 14.04 machine (mac mini).
 
  Please note, from a personal reply, I was told, that 2.6.6 is the
  latest version.

  I got the string "3.2.6" from ~/.fvwm/Version

  fvwm --version returns 
fvwm 2.6.5 compiled on Nov 14 2013 at 23:12:38
  (installed from Ubuntu Synaptic)

  Sorry about the mixup. On my system, .fvwm is created on the first
  invocation and file Version is contain in that directory.

  For those unfamiliar with fluxbox, I could just use some config
  that enables easy access to window menus. With the vanilla config,
  I couldn't even find a way to close a window (other than
  terminating the child app).

  From 
man fvwm 
  I read the following:
  
  BUILTIN KEY AND MOUSE BINDINGS
   The following commands are built-in to fvwm:

   Key Help R A Popup MenuFvwmRoot
   Key F1 R A Popup MenuFvwmRoot
   Key Tab A M WindowList Root c c NoDeskSort
   Key Escape A MC EscapeFunc
   Mouse 1 R A Menu MenuFvwmRoot
   Mouse 1 T   A FuncFvwmRaiseLowerX Move
   Mouse 1 FS  A FuncFvwmRaiseLowerX Resize
   Mouse 2 FST A FuncFvwmRaiseLowerX Move
   AddToFunc FuncFvwmRaiseLowerX
   + I Raise
   + M $0
   + D Lower
  

  But, from that I was not even able to grok how to close a window. Or get a
  window menu. 

  To reiterate, on Ubuntu 14.04, version 2.6.5
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FVWM: Recommend Config for Fluxbox user

[Tim Johnson]

Hello :

This is partly to test my assimilation into the fvwm mailing list,
and in part for a recommendation or recommendations.

I have installed fvwm 3.2.7 on an 64-bit Ubuntu 14.04 machine (mac mini).

I am most used to fluxbox 1.3.5. My fluxbox config is pretty basic.

For me to get used to fvwm without too much fumbling about, I could
use a config file that might provide me with the most familiar
environment.

I see some examples at /usr/share/doc/fvwm/examples

Any other recommendations are welcome. I use emacs, so Control-Alt
prefixes to key bindings would have to be remapped, but I should be
able to handle such remapping.

TIA
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