Re: BoB
On Wed, 6 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, Stephen is my dark horse tip to win the tournament. Why? This is Turner's 3rd Golf Tournament, and he's only lost twice. Tee hee. Still, this morning's leaderboard makes me feel a bit out of my depth. I was only 2 strokes behind last night, but now Ton's shot an eagle and a couple of birdies to leave me 6 off the pace. I might be worth a punt at 50-1 if you fancy backing an outsider, but don't accept any shorter odds. :-) -- Stephen Turner, Cambridge, UKhttp://homepage.ntlworld.com/adelie/stephen/ This is Henman's 8th Wimbledon, and he's only lost 7 matches. BBC, 2/Jul/01
Re: BoB
Isn't listing the number of [^\w\s] a little too big a hint? For example, it might have given away the technique for TPR(0,0) since the winners had so many \w characters. Maybe the leaderboard should just silently sort the ties. Chris Jerome Quelin wrote: On Mardi 5 Mars 2002 08:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Since Rick is ahead of Ton on the leaderboard are we to assume that he is ahead on the tie-break rule? Perhaps the leaderboard could be updated with the tie break score too? (i.e. the 'matched 123 [^\w\s]' score from running the test program). 52 strokes (matched 23) for Ton. 52 strokes (matched 23) for Rick. 52 strokes (matched 27) for BoB. The leaderboard is to display someone first, that was Rick. But there is a tie, since they have the same number of [^\w\s] chars. Next tournaments will display the tie-breaker score. Jerome
Re: BoB
On Mardi 5 Mars 2002 15:37, Chris Dolan wrote : Isn't listing the number of [^\w\s] a little too big a hint? For example, it might have given away the technique for TPR(0,0) since the winners had so many \w characters. Maybe the leaderboard should just silently sort the ties. In that case, revealing the whole scoring is too big a hint. Normally, golf contest reveal the score for the _total_ of the holes, but as there's only one course, total score is also the score of the hole. And that's not because the score and tie-breaker score is the same that solutions are the same. Simply, there is no way to untie them according to the rules. Given two solutions with the same score and tie breaker score, imagine how frustrating it would be if one of the golfer gains one char and not the other... But if the solutions are different, there may be absolutely no way for the second golfer to shave one more char... Jerome -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BoB
Philippe 'BooK' Bruhat wrote: Maybe people with the same score and tie-breaker should have the same rank And someone with the same score but not the same tie-breaker will jump a few steps backs So that everyone can see the real ranking I second this motion :) -- Rick Klement
Re: BoB
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris Dolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Isn't listing the number of [^\w\s] a little too big a hint? For example, it might have given away the technique for TPR(0,0) since the winners had so many \w characters. Maybe the leaderboard should just silently sort the ties. Chris one could say so, yes. so I propose the following compromise: if you have persons A, B, C and D at score X, and tie-scores, say 8, 5, 5, 3 respectively, display them as: 1 A 2 B C 4 D This way at least everyone knows if he should look further or not, and you don't tell the world the tie-scores
suggest to get rid of tie-breaker(was Re: BoB)
I don't understand why there has to be a tie-breaker?
In the course, some may be good at chipping, some may be good
at pudding, various styles display the beauty of golfing.
In Perl, some may be good at algorithm, some may be good
at regex, some may know all about POSIX:), thusly the
beauty of TMTOWTDI.
I also don't think it's easy to change tie-breaker rules
every round with overall fairness. After all, at beginning
of the competition no one knows the best solution (may apply
even at very end).
So I say, let tie be there, please.
--(??{unknown})
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ton Hospel)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ton Hospel)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: BoB
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 20:49:16 + (UTC)
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Chris Dolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Isn't listing the number of [^\w\s] a little too big a hint? For
example, it might have given away the technique for TPR(0,0) since the
winners had so many \w characters. Maybe the leaderboard should just
silently sort the ties.
Chris
one could say so, yes.
so I propose the following compromise:
if you have persons A, B, C and D at score X, and tie-scores, say 8, 5, 5,
3
respectively, display them as:
1 A
2 B
C
4 D
This way at least everyone knows if he should look further or not, and
you don't tell the world the tie-scores
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RE: BoB
/-\ndrew schreef op 04 maart 2002: After seeing the leaderboard this morning, I started hearing the Jaws theme playing in my head It won't go away, has been playing all morning Oh, the shock and terror of seeing Eugene and Karsten swimming in the water right behind me! /-\ndrew Rick Klement schreef op 05 maart 2002: I hate to break it to you, Andrew, but others consider *you* to be one of the sharks :) When you see what I just did to go from 54 to 53 (doh), you will think me a beginner I feel like burying my head in the sand like David H Adler, so as not to be able to hear the jeers of the crowd When I went to submit it, I noticed Ton Hospel is on 52 Well done, Ton! /-\ndrew
Re: BoB
On Mardi 5 Mars 2002 04:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : When you see what I just did to go from 54 to 53 (doh), you will think me a beginner. I feel like burying my head in the sand like David H Adler, so as not to be able to hear the jeers of the crowd. When I went to submit it, I noticed Ton Hospel is on 52. Well done, Ton! Yesterday, when I posted BoB's solution, I was quite proud of myself. But this morning, when waking up, I see that both Ton Hospel and Rick Klement got to 52... Anyway, BoB still leads the course thanks to the tie-breaking rule. But I don't think I can go much further... Poor BoB, whose first place is always stolen near the end of the game. Maybe we should close the game now. :) Jerome -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BoB
Rick Klement schreef op 05 maart 2002: I hate to break it to you, Andrew, but others consider *you* to be one of the sharks /-\ndrew schreef op 05 maart 2002: When I went to submit it, I noticed Ton Hospel is on 52 Well done, Ton! Well done, shark Rick too! I see you got to 52 Since Rick is ahead of Ton on the leaderboard are we to assume that he is ahead on the tie-break rule? Perhaps the leaderboard could be updated with the tie break score too? (ie the 'matched 123 [^\w\s]' score from running the test program) Since my solution is as dry as a raisin, there being no hope of squeezing out an extra character, it is time for some extreme measures Normally, in this situation, I take home the Camel and read it from cover to cover for inspiration This time, I will instead try reading some pornography from cover to cover I need to think dirtier to get to 52 /-\ndrew
