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An interesting article from the excellent online news magazine Scroll.in on how children's and young adult books in India are starting to include lgbt characters: Gay characters, single-parent families: Books for Indian kids begin to reflect real life Gay characters, single-parent families: Books for Indian... The narrative is broadening. Issues like sexuality and class are getting reflected in children's books. View on scroll.in Preview by Yahoo This follows a trend from around the world. LGBT characters started appearing in children's and young adult (YA) books sometime back. It includes some real classics like the short story Am I Blue (link below, and well worth reading) and some really good novels like Stephen Chbosky's The Perks of Being a Wallflower (which really shows how these classifications like YA and so on are pointless, since this is a good novel by any standards or classifications). For a while many of these kids and YA books were, as they are in India today, a niche genre which, ironically, only became well known outside the LGBT community when homophobes found out of them and started screaming about 'indoctrination' of kids and trying to ban these books from school libraries. Some of these quite innocuous books feature on the lists of most banned books! But in a sign of how much things are changing, lgbt characters are cropping up in mainstream childrens and YA books, and these are much harder for the homophobes to ban. One of the best examples is Rick Riordan's phenomenally successful Percy Jackson series. In the current Percy Jackson and the Heroes of Olympus series it was revealed in the second last book, The House of Hades, which released last year, that a key character, who had been part of the first series Percy Jackson and the Olympians had come out as gay or, at least admitting to same sex attraction. This caused lots of homophobic parents to start screaming about inappropriate themes, which simply and happily showed up their dilemma - they were letting their kids read this series thinking there was and would be nothing gay in it, and now they either had to let them continue or ban them, and good luck with that. Riordan himself released an extremely robust and common sense statement that firmly refuted allegations of inappropriateness. It is worth reading the relevant parts which don't reveal the name of the character, but if you click on the link you'll get his FAQs which do reveal the character's name (this is in case there are any Riordan fans here who haven't read House of Hades, which I realise is unlikely, but you never know!): http://www.rickriordan.com/about-rick/faq.aspx (the answer is in the only FAQ with a SPOILER alert) I’ve been lucky enough to teach all sorts of students – fifth grade to twelfth grade, rich and poor, from numerous ethnic backgrounds, with diverse religious traditions and a variety of learning differences. I’ve also taught gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender students. Some self-identified as early as elementary school. Some came to terms with their sexual orientation later in high school. Most had a hard time during the middle grades, which are tough years for any child. All my middle school students enriched my classroom. They made me a better teacher and a better writer for children, and they all deserve my support. I am committed to writing appropriate books for the middle grades. This means no bad language, no gratuitous or explicit violence, and no sexual content beyond what you might find in a PG-rated movie – expressions of who likes whom, holding hands, and perhaps the occasional kiss. The idea that we should treat sexual orientation itself as an adults-only topic, however, is absurd. Non-heterosexual children exist. To pretend they do not, to fail to recognize that they have needs for support and validation like any child, would be bad teaching, bad writing, and bad citizenship. There's also the Kevin Keller series from Archies comics. Again, a gay character was introduced into a series so mainstream and familiar that its hard for parents to stop their kids reading them. Remarkably, as this Salon article points out, Kevin is just one element in a remarkable reinvention of the Archies series: How “Archie” went from dull to daring: The world’s tamest comic series is now our most groundbreaking How “Archie” went from dull to daring: The world’s tames... Archie used to be the safest, squarest comic book franchise out there. But in the past few years, something changed View on www.salon.com Preview by Yahoo Rather sadly, the importer of Archies in India - one of their biggest markets - doesn't seem to be getting most of these more cutting edge series, but in time it will get harder for him to keep out these new Archies comics, and for those who want to read them they are anyway available online. I've bought the whole Kevin Keller series as e-books and you can probably
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Criminalizing gays by misusing anti-gay sex law not acceptable, says Mumbai chief of ruling party The Mumbai chief of India’s ruling party, BJP, says his party is now against the misuse of section 377 and will raise the issue in Parliament 17 August 2014 | By Sylvia Tan http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/criminalizing-gays-misusing-anti-gay-sex-law-not-acceptable-says-mumbai-chief-ruling-party17
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Police Violence In India Drives A Gay Couple To The U.S. Millions of gay Indians suddenly became criminals when the Indian Supreme Court restored the country’s sodomy law in December. But the ruling actually helped set one couple free. When the ruling was issued, two men from northwest India had spent more than six months in an Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention center in El Paso, Texas, waiting for a judge to decide on their petition for asylum. It was a bitter ending to their yearlong journey across more than 10 countries to reach the United States. They had left India after death threats from their family and being targeted for police abuse because of their sexual orientation, though at the time the law criminalizing same-sex relationships was suspended by a lower court ruling. And when they finally reached the country that they expected to protect their rights, they wound up in a facility that felt exactly like prison. The whole experience had felt cruelly backward to the couple, so it was perhaps fitting that the U.S. released them from detention only when they formally became criminals at home. A U.S. judge granted the pair asylum on Dec. 20 based on their experience of police abuse and threats from their families to kill them if they returned. But even now they don’t feel that much safer than when they left India, which is why they only agreed to speak to BuzzFeed under names they chose for themselves, Manoj and Maninder, rather than their real names (full story): http://www.buzzfeed.com/lesterfeder/a-gay-couple-flees-police-violence-in-india-only-to-wind-up
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It could be because someone found out and fire walled the sites. Try going to these sites via any of the hundreds of proxy sites available online for free... Best, Aditya B On 28/02/2014, pest quest roman2roman2...@yahoo.co.in wrote: dear sir, i'm unable to open any gay websites like planet romeo, gaydia, ohmojo, from my computer since the last several days. the message flashed is' this webpage is not available' when i click on the cause for this message, 'error 103' is displayed. all other websites are opening on my computer very easily. can you guide me how i can access the gay websites? thanks prashant -Original Message- From: pest quest [mailto:roman2roman2002@ yahoo.co. in] Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 11:53 AM To: moderator@gaybombay .in Subject: high court judgement dear sir, i am an ordinary indian citizen, a gay, who realised his sexuality after marriage [ or would never have]. the trauma of leading a double life cheating on his wife is not what any gay would want. yet, over the years, our conditioning [specially because of the criminal angle to male to male sex], has made us succumb to pressure marry a girl, thereby ruining the lives of all involved. this judgement is a landmark judgement for the society at large, because it recognizes the individuality of a human being to choose how he wants to live his life in the society, without being looked down upon as a criminal. i only wish pray that gays will now have the courage to withstand social pressure say an emphatic NO to hetrosexual matrimony, understanding that they have been given the freedom to choose by this judgement. gays should also remember that now their conscience will never let them rest at peace if they still choose to marry, inspite of the recognition of their choice by the society. i wish to congratulate and thank all those gay activists who have suffered the brunt of coming out in the open to take up cudgels on behalf of closeted cowards like us -- to make india a better place to live in for gays, henceforth. prashant kanpur -- -- ADITYA BONDYOPADHYAY Development Sector Consultant Advocate (Regd. No. F-218/192 of 1997, Bar Council of W.Bengal, India) Website: http://adityabondyopadhyay.webs.com/ Notice to all recipients: Communication not intended for you but reaching you inadvertently needs to be treated as confidential and destroyed or deleted immediately. Use of such communication in a manner prejudicial to the interest of Aditya Bondyopadhyay and/or his principals, and/or his clients, and/or his agents respectively, may attract legal proceedings which may be of a civil or criminal nature. Aditya Bondyopadhyay and/or his principals, and/or his clients, and/or his agents respectively cannot be held liable or accountable for any and every communication reaching out through this email account that is an unaltered forward of another communication received by this email account, or a referred source available on the internet and accessible to the public.
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dear sir, i'm unable to open any gay websites like planet romeo, gaydia, ohmojo, from my computer since the last several days. the message flashed is' this webpage is not available' when i click on the cause for this message, 'error 103' is displayed. all other websites are opening on my computer very easily. can you guide me how i can access the gay websites? thanks prashant -Original Message- From: pest quest [mailto:roman2roman2002@ yahoo.co. in] Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 11:53 AM To: moderator@gaybombay .in Subject: high court judgement dear sir, i am an ordinary indian citizen, a gay, who realised his sexuality after marriage [ or would never have]. the trauma of leading a double life cheating on his wife is not what any gay would want. yet, over the years, our conditioning [specially because of the criminal angle to male to male sex], has made us succumb to pressure marry a girl, thereby ruining the lives of all involved. this judgement is a landmark judgement for the society at large, because it recognizes the individuality of a human being to choose how he wants to live his life in the society, without being looked down upon as a criminal. i only wish pray that gays will now have the courage to withstand social pressure say an emphatic NO to hetrosexual matrimony, understanding that they have been given the freedom to choose by this judgement. gays should also remember that now their conscience will never let them rest at peace if they still choose to marry, inspite of the recognition of their choice by the society. i wish to congratulate and thank all those gay activists who have suffered the brunt of coming out in the open to take up cudgels on behalf of closeted cowards like us -- to make india a better place to live in for gays, henceforth. prashant kanpur
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GB Party at Let's Scream on 18 Feb 12 – It’s a Saturday Nite Party Located in the commercial heart of South Bombay, Let’s Scream is an uber-cool disco famous for its great music and a pulsating sound system that will simply blow you away. Date - 18 Feb 12 – It’s a Saturday Nite Party Venue: Walchand Hirachand Marg, Straight from General Post Office (GPO), near VT station, five buildings away from Railway hotel on the opposite side.Next Jahaz Bhuvan, Ballard Pier. Mumbai-41. Cover Charge: Rs 500/- only (to defray the expenses of the party) CREDIT CARD’S Accepted The Cover Charge includes: 1. Two Small Drinks In-house DJ and a dance floor which would play a mix of Bollywood as well as English Rock Light snacks like wafers, peanuts. Extra drinks will be sold at Rs 50/- to Rs 100/- per drink. Please note that you have to be above the age of 21 to attend GB par-ties. Please carry proof of age with you, such as driving license, college identity card. Some don'ts: This is a comfort/safe space for everyone. Many people at the event may be newbies (those still coming to terms with their sexuality and/or those who have mustered the courage to come to such an event for the first time). We request you to be sensitive to the comfort levels of others and to behave and dress accordingly. Smoking is allowed only outside the premises. No dark rooms and no sex and absolutely no drugs on the premises; if found indulging in any hanky panky you shall be asked to leave the party. Pls respect the safe space which is being provided. A few dos: Have a smashing time. Carry your Alcoholic Drinks Permit.
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Hi, One interesting game: In this video, there are twins wearing Back and White T-Shirts respectively. Just guess which one is Gay before it is revealed in the video. To me the identification is instantaneous and obvious. Do not post here who is gay - just post whether you guessed it correctly or not. Preyas. On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:58 PM, asfan asfa...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Aditya, I am QUITE aware of Epigenetics but it is STILL a theory. Has anyone really proved the effect of male hormones on the brain, especially on the hippocampus (one absurd contention that it is larger in gays!). I shall know for sure that the theory is correct only when there is substantial proof. Cheers, asfan --- On *Wed, 3/8/11, Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail.com Subject: Re: g_b (unknown) To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 3 August, 2011, 12:12 PM Asfan, sorry to say this but Epigenetics is not just a theory. There is a lot of research happening on epigenetic markers and it is very much part of current science that is proved. Other examples of epigenetic markers that are being researched is the cases where one of idntical twins develop leukemia while the other does not, although both carry the same genes responsible. Best, Aditya B On 3 August 2011 06:24, asfan asfa...@yahoo.comhttp://in.mc956.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=asfa...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Interesting, but still a theory. No definite proof. asfan --- On *Tue, 2/8/11, Anon Anon aqueer...@yahoo.co.ukhttp://in.mc956.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=aqueer...@yahoo.co.uk * wrote: From: Anon Anon aqueer...@yahoo.co.ukhttp://in.mc956.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=aqueer...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: g_b (unknown) To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.comhttp://in.mc956.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 2 August, 2011, 4:47 PM Dear All, Please go though the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saO_RFWWVVAfeature=share Regards Sachin -- -- ADITYA BONDYOPADHYAY Development Sector Consultant Advocate (Regd. No. F-218/192 of 1997, Bar Council of W.Bengal, India) Website: http://adityabondyopadhyay.webs.com/ Notice to all recipients: Communication not intended for you but reaching you inadvertently needs to be treated as confidential and destroyed or deleted immediately. Use of such communication in a manner prejudicial to the interest of Aditya Bondyopadhyay and/or his principals, and/or his clients, and/or his agents respectively, may attract legal proceedings which may be of a civil or criminal nature. Aditya Bondyopadhyay and/or his principals, and/or his clients, and/or his agents respectively cannot be held liable or accountable for any and every communication reaching out through this email account that is an unaltered forward of another communication received by this email account, or a referred source available on the internet and accessible to the public. -- - Preyas For true friendship..
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Asfan, sorry to say this but Epigenetics is not just a theory. There is a lot of research happening on epigenetic markers and it is very much part of current science that is proved. Other examples of epigenetic markers that are being researched is the cases where one of idntical twins develop leukemia while the other does not, although both carry the same genes responsible. Best, Aditya B On 3 August 2011 06:24, asfan asfa...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Interesting, but still a theory. No definite proof. asfan --- On *Tue, 2/8/11, Anon Anon aqueer...@yahoo.co.uk* wrote: From: Anon Anon aqueer...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: g_b (unknown) To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 2 August, 2011, 4:47 PM Dear All, Please go though the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saO_RFWWVVAfeature=share Regards Sachin -- -- ADITYA BONDYOPADHYAY Development Sector Consultant Advocate (Regd. No. F-218/192 of 1997, Bar Council of W.Bengal, India) Website: http://adityabondyopadhyay.webs.com/ Notice to all recipients: Communication not intended for you but reaching you inadvertently needs to be treated as confidential and destroyed or deleted immediately. Use of such communication in a manner prejudicial to the interest of Aditya Bondyopadhyay and/or his principals, and/or his clients, and/or his agents respectively, may attract legal proceedings which may be of a civil or criminal nature. Aditya Bondyopadhyay and/or his principals, and/or his clients, and/or his agents respectively cannot be held liable or accountable for any and every communication reaching out through this email account that is an unaltered forward of another communication received by this email account, or a referred source available on the internet and accessible to the public.
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Agree I hate studies that are new yet make claims that they have discovered god !! As long as there is a perception in society that somehow being gay or bi-sexual is wrong, such studies will proliferate. This is not the first time a scientific study claims would have gone awry, NG or not. Morea. From: asfan asfa...@yahoo.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 7:54 PM Subject: Re: g_b (unknown) Interesting, but still a theory. No definite proof. asfan --- On Tue, 2/8/11, Anon Anon aqueer...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: Anon Anon aqueer...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: g_b (unknown) To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 2 August, 2011, 4:47 PM Dear All, Please go though the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saO_RFWWVVAfeature=share Regards Sachin
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Aditya, I am QUITE aware of Epigenetics but it is STILL a theory. Has anyone really proved the effect of male hormones on the brain, especially on the hippocampus (one absurd contention that it is larger in gays!). I shall know for sure that the theory is correct only when there is substantial proof. Cheers, asfan --- On Wed, 3/8/11, Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail.com wrote: From: Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail.com Subject: Re: g_b (unknown) To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 3 August, 2011, 12:12 PM Asfan, sorry to say this but Epigenetics is not just a theory. There is a lot of research happening on epigenetic markers and it is very much part of current science that is proved. Other examples of epigenetic markers that are being researched is the cases where one of idntical twins develop leukemia while the other does not, although both carry the same genes responsible. Best, Aditya B On 3 August 2011 06:24, asfan asfa...@yahoo.com wrote: Interesting, but still a theory. No definite proof. asfan --- On Tue, 2/8/11, Anon Anon aqueer...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: Anon Anon aqueer...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: g_b (unknown) To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 2 August, 2011, 4:47 PM Dear All, Please go though the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saO_RFWWVVAfeature=share Regards Sachin -- -- ADITYA BONDYOPADHYAY Development Sector Consultant Advocate (Regd. No. F-218/192 of 1997, Bar Council of W.Bengal, India) Website: http://adityabondyopadhyay.webs.com/ Notice to all recipients: Communication not intended for you but reaching you inadvertently needs to be treated as confidential and destroyed or deleted immediately. Use of such communication in a manner prejudicial to the interest of Aditya Bondyopadhyay and/or his principals, and/or his clients, and/or his agents respectively, may attract legal proceedings which may be of a civil or criminal nature. Aditya Bondyopadhyay and/or his principals, and/or his clients, and/or his agents respectively cannot be held liable or accountable for any and every communication reaching out through this email account that is an unaltered forward of another communication received by this email account, or a referred source available on the internet and accessible to the public.
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Dear All,Please go though the linkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saO_RFWWVVAfeature=shareRegardsSachin
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Interesting, but still a theory. No definite proof. asfan --- On Tue, 2/8/11, Anon Anon aqueer...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: Anon Anon aqueer...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: g_b (unknown) To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 2 August, 2011, 4:47 PM Dear All, Please go though the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saO_RFWWVVAfeature=share Regards Sachin
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I have been on this gb list for eleven years now and have always admired Aditya's upholding gay rights. I do admit that at times he is not very polite and at times quite boorish. But, that does not mean he is to be sent into exile!! This is a free country wherein everyone has a right to speak. So, if you don't like what he writes, just use the delete button in the Inbox when you read his name. Do not forget that he is an activist for OUR rights - how many of his detactors are?? How many of us are doing what he is? Don't be ungrateful. Count your blessings. asfan
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You skipped as long as it was not you the butt of his piercing comments then it is fine ... is that what it is? From: Sujit Bhandary sbd...@yahoo.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, July 2, 2011 10:14:43 AM Subject: g_b (unknown) Hi, I'm quite surprised to see several people asking/demanding that Aditya should be removed from the group. Here's MY take on the issue: First, I assume that those of us who are here on this forum are either gay/bi/lesbian etc. We are, I suppose, already used to derisive sniggers about our lifestyles already. So, I'd have expected members to have, by now, been fairly strong to be able to handle criticism or even insultive/abusive language. Next, Aditya has consistently maintained that this IS a free country and everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. Even if you disagree with him he has supported YOUR RIGHT TO DISAGREE, hasn't he? Give him the same liberty? If you can't win an argument with him, you can still always IGNORE him? So, let's all get on with whatever interests us. You don't like him, don't pay attention to what he says/writes - simple! I've enjoyed reading his comments/posts more often than not - the few times I've felt that he's too offensive, I've skipped reading his views. Regards, Sujit
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Hi, I'm quite surprised to see several people asking/demanding that Aditya should be removed from the group. Here's MY take on the issue: First, I assume that those of us who are here on this forum are either gay/bi/lesbian etc. We are, I suppose, already used to derisive sniggers about our lifestyles already. So, I'd have expected members to have, by now, been fairly strong to be able to handle criticism or even insultive/abusive language. Next, Aditya has consistently maintained that this IS a free country and everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. Even if you disagree with him he has supported YOUR RIGHT TO DISAGREE, hasn't he? Give him the same liberty? If you can't win an argument with him, you can still always IGNORE him? So, let's all get on with whatever interests us. You don't like him, don't pay attention to what he says/writes - simple! I've enjoyed reading his comments/posts more often than not - the few times I've felt that he's too offensive, I've skipped reading his views. Regards, Sujit
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Dr.Kaushik Basu, the chief economic adviser to the government of India has just launched a collection of his writings entitled An Economist's Miscellany. Its a collection of his writings, journalism and a couple of translations, with a mix between economics and policy related paper, and more general stuff, ranging from personal memories to travel pieces and even a short play. What's notable for us though is that the collection includes not just one, but two articles arguing very strongly for the removal of Section 377. I suppose this shouldn't be a surprise, since Dr.Basu was a signatory for the open letter published by Vikram Seth and others. For those who haven't read it, here's the link: http://www.hindustantimes.com/Where-love-has-lost-its-voice/Article1-150604.aspx Still, that was sometime back while he was an academic in the US and now he's one of the most powerful policymakers in the country. Of course, as an economist, his words may not have direct impact on the Supreme Court, but I think its a good proof of where the educated and enlightened thinking in the country is on this. Here's an extract from one of his articles that makes his basic point that something should not be criminalised just because people don't like it, but it doesn't affect them, and also a good anecdote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4179738.stm Let me here consider another subject on which policy changes are long overdue. This concerns IPC 377 -that is, Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code. This decrees homosexual love as not just illegal but criminal. There has been an effort to amend this law so that homosexual love, when it is between consenting adults and conducted in private, is not treated as criminal. To me such an amendment would be a sign of civilisation. Tolerating behaviour that does not have a negative externality - that is, does not adversely affect a third party - is a key ingredient of a civilised society and such tolerance has a long tradition in India from Buddha to Ramakrishna. But previous Indian governments have staunchly resisted reading down this law, taking the line that homosexuality is perverse and an import into India from the West. The truth is different. There is evidence from ancient Indian writings and carvings on temple walls that same-sex love is not alien to India. In fact, it is the criminalisation and intolerance of same-sex love that is alien. What many do not know is that IPC 377 was enacted in colonial India, nearly a century and a half ago by Lord Macaulay. It is true that this law is seldom used to prosecute but it is used to harass same-sex partners and to inflict on them a sense of unnaturalness and deviation. Moreover, it is a hindrance in the control of Aids and the spread of HIV, since people are often forced to keep their sexual histories hidden, even from doctors for no other reason but the fear of IPC 377. Ceremonial occasion The urge not to feel unnatural is natural enough. I realised this at a gay wedding in New York. It was between an Indian and an American woman. They could not of course formally get married because New York law does not recognise such marriages but it was a ceremonial occasion. A young rabbi, with a palpable spiritual presence, presided over the wedding. At the end of the ceremony, with readings from religious texts from around the world and the poetry of Tagore, he declared the couple married in the eyes of all, he paused deliberately and added with emphasis, enlightened human beings. That evening there was a party where most couples were of the same sex. A charming young woman asked me what my partner did. I replied: My partner is a demographer, taking care to omit all pronouns-such is the human urge to be accepted. We continued to chat for a while about our partners, with me feeling increasingly hypocritical, till my wife came and joined us and I had to come out.
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Just putting down some thoughts and possible points of action following the vile episode broadcast by TV9 Telugu on how gay culture was booming in Hyderabad. This has been taken down from YouTube - congratulations to everyone who went online to make sure YouTube yanked it - but a transcript is available, which I'll post in a separate mail, shows how awful it was, but without giving the photos, with no attempt at concealment, of the guys whose profiles they picked from GayRomeo and entrapped into conversations with them which they recorded. They also seem to have shot some spycam footage from inside a club that had a gay party. Quite apart from the horror of entrapping guys this way, the episode was sick for the tone it took, which went on about how software employees and students were falling prey to this lifestyle, and how unnatural it was. At the end, there was a bit of a shift where they also spoke about the potential for blackmail that having sites on GayRomeo had - a very small part of the episode, but one that might have some implications for what we can do: 1) The absolute priority has to be trying to find out what has happened to the guys who were set up by the channel and had their lives exposed. These guys must be in total shock and trauma and are very probably in a suicidal state. Can anybody can find some way to get in touch with them and check they are OK, or if they need support? Did anyone in Hyderabad recognise them or might they know people who would know them? 2) People have been asking about legal action against the channel, and I know Aditya has already taken steps here. The problem is I don't think it will be easy to have something really stick against TV9. It is a channel that specialises in this sort of sensational expose as a way to chase TRPs, so they are used to dealing with negative reactions and, if anything, they might even welcome some reactions and publicity which they would use to continue the moralistic line they have taken. One could, and perhaps should anyway, file a complaint with the national broadcasting authority, but let no one have any illusions this will accomplish much. Most of these professional regulatory bodies are both slow and toothless and TV9 will also claim media freedom as a defence. I have spoken to Vijay Hiremath at Lawyer's Collective and he is trying to see if there is something in the IPC or the new Telecom act that might help us, but he agreed with me that on the face of it legal action will be tough. Privacy is not much of an argument since its not really clear that sites like GayRomeo really are private in any enforceable way (more on that later). If the guys who were profiled are willing to sue the channel they might get somewhere but (a) they are likely to be too traumatised to do anything like that and (b) if they claim they were being defamed, the channel will reply that what they showed was truthful and they have the recordings to back it. I don't think we can claim that these parties or hooking up through GayRomeo doesn't exist, and that is really all that TV9 was claiming. The rather depressing thought did occur to me that if any of the guys did attempt suicide, then the channel might be liable for harassment and abetment, but this is obviously not a situation one wants to be in. 3) Should we protest directly protest to TV9? This might be worth doing, even if the channel just laughs at us, just as a way of showing to them - but even more to ourselves - that we cannot be cowed and bullied in this way. But please please please note - this would have to be a protest with some actual physical action in Hyderabad. I am sorry to be blunt, but purely online protests are worth precisely nothing. If someone sends me one more petitionline link to sign I will really scream because this has to be one of the most useless activities possible - it not only does nothing, but by giving you the sense that you are doing something, it robs any initiative of momentum. A protest has to have some physical component, even if its just in the form of the pink chaddis that were sent to Pramod Mutalik. Behind the scenes actions can work sometimes, if one has the right contacts. Within the English media we have certainly often used a bad piece to dialogue with the writers and editors and hope for some improvement in the future. If anyone has contacts with TV9 - or Andhra politicians - then please use them, but I have to say I think its unlikely that much will happen. Vernacular channels like this, whcih are driven by shock and TRPs, aren't influenceable in the way that more mainstream channels are. TV9 is part of the Associated Broadcasting group which is very focused on a kind of sensational news in local languages, and there's not much I can think of that might reach them. 4) Since the morning we've been deluged by calls from people asking us if sites like
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My sympathies are with the guys who are exposed and the trauma they must be going through, may god give them courage to peacefully come out of this problem but if you want to have fun one has to be prepared to face this kind of things --- On Wed, 23/2/11, Vikram D vg...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: Vikram D vg...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: g_b (unknown) To: gaybom...@yahoogroups.com Cc: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, lgbt-in...@yahoogroups.com, khush-l...@yahoogroups.com, movenp...@yahoogroups.com, gayde...@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 23 February, 2011, 5:23 PM Just putting down some thoughts and possible points of action following the vile episode broadcast by TV9 Telugu on how gay culture was booming in Hyderabad. This has been taken down from YouTube - congratulations to everyone who went online to make sure YouTube yanked it - but a transcript is available, which I'll post in a separate mail, shows how awful it was, but without giving the photos, with no attempt at concealment, of the guys whose profiles they picked from GayRomeo and entrapped into conversations with them which they recorded. They also seem to have shot some spycam footage from inside a club that had a gay party. Quite apart from the horror of entrapping guys this way, the episode was sick for the tone it took, which went on about how software employees and students were falling prey to this lifestyle, and how unnatural it was. At the end, there was a bit of a shift where they also spoke about the potential for blackmail that having sites on GayRomeo had - a very small part of the episode, but one that might have some implications for what we can do: 1) The absolute priority has to be trying to find out what has happened to the guys who were set up by the channel and had their lives exposed. These guys must be in total shock and trauma and are very probably in a suicidal state. Can anybody can find some way to get in touch with them and check they are OK, or if they need support? Did anyone in Hyderabad recognise them or might they know people who would know them? 2) People have been asking about legal action against the channel, and I know Aditya has already taken steps here. The problem is I don't think it will be easy to have something really stick against TV9. It is a channel that specialises in this sort of sensational expose as a way to chase TRPs, so they are used to dealing with negative reactions and, if anything, they might even welcome some reactions and publicity which they would use to continue the moralistic line they have taken. One could, and perhaps should anyway, file a complaint with the national broadcasting authority, but let no one have any illusions this will accomplish much. Most of these professional regulatory bodies are both slow and toothless and TV9 will also claim media freedom as a defence. I have spoken to Vijay Hiremath at Lawyer's Collective and he is trying to see if there is something in the IPC or the new Telecom act that might help us, but he agreed with me that on the face of it legal action will be tough. Privacy is not much of an argument since its not really clear that sites like GayRomeo really are private in any enforceable way (more on that later). If the guys who were profiled are willing to sue the channel they might get somewhere but (a) they are likely to be too traumatised to do anything like that and (b) if they claim they were being defamed, the channel will reply that what they showed was truthful and they have the recordings to back it. I don't think we can claim that these parties or hooking up through GayRomeo doesn't exist, and that is really all that TV9 was claiming. The rather depressing thought did occur to me that if any of the guys did attempt suicide, then the channel might be liable for harassment and abetment, but this is obviously not a situation one wants to be in. 3) Should we protest directly protest to TV9? This might be worth doing, even if the channel just laughs at us, just as a way of showing to them - but even more to ourselves - that we cannot be cowed and bullied in this way. But please please please note - this would have to be a protest with some actual physical action in Hyderabad. I am sorry to be blunt, but purely online protests are worth precisely nothing. If someone sends me one more petitionline link to sign I will really scream because this has to be one of the most useless activities possible - it not only does nothing, but by giving you the sense that you are doing something, it robs any initiative of momentum. A protest has to have some physical component, even if its just in the form of the pink chaddis that were sent to Pramod Mutalik. Behind the scenes actions can work sometimes, if one has the right contacts. Within the English media we have certainly often used a bad piece to dialogue with the writers and editors and hope for some
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/18/world/europe/18poland.html?themc=th July 17, 2010 Gay Parade in Warsaw Meets Jeers From Some By NICHOLAS KULISH WARSAW — Rainbow flags flying, Village People and Madonna songs pumping from the floats, drag queens waving like royalty to the crowds: some things are the same at gay pride parades everywhere. But the thousands of police officers holding back clusters of jeering, egg-throwing youths here on Saturday served as a reminder that Poland was not quite Holland when it came to gay demonstrations. Gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transsexuals not just from Poland but from all over Europe and North America marched and danced their way through downtown Warsaw, calling for greater tolerance and equal rights, in particular the right to marry or at least to be joined in civil partnerships. The event, the first Europewide gay pride parade held in a former Communist bloc country, revealed a place where gays and lesbians aspired to the level of acceptance found in Western European cities like Amsterdam and London, yet remained part of a deeply Catholic society that was still significantly more opposed to homosexuality than in the West and where politicians did not seem ready, or perhaps willing, to change that. It was most likely the largest gathering of its kind in Polish history, but its 8,000 participants made up just a fraction of the 50,000 people who took part in last year’s parade, in Zurich. For the most part, Saturday’s parade went smoothly, but it was met with resistance from a population ill at ease with open displays of homosexuality. Many gay men and lesbians here say they continue to fear repercussions from coming out of the closet. “I lived in Berlin and, there and here, they are simply two different worlds,” said Tomasz Baczkowski, head of the Equality Foundation and an organizer of this year’s EuroPride event. It was just five years ago that Lech Kaczynski, Poland’s president who died in a plane crash in April, banned Warsaw’s annual gay pride parade in 2005 when he was the city’s mayor. Mr. Baczkowski was among the plaintiffs in a 2007 lawsuit before the European Court of Human Rights that successfully challenged the ban. Since then, Mr. Baczkowski said, “things have developed quickly, but not quickly enough for us.” He said he hoped to see Poland legalize gay marriages within three to four years, as Argentina did on Thursday. But a sociology professor at Warsaw University, Ireneusz Krzeminski, said the political culture was not yet ready. “In Poland,” he said, “we still do not have major politicians directed toward changing this rather hostile attitude toward Polish gays.” Mr. Krzeminski, who is gay himself, said he found hope in the millions of Poles who have traveled abroad since the country joined the European Union in 2004, especially those who lived and worked in other countries like Britain, and who saw being gay in a much more normal and positive context. Wojtek Kobylski, 42, said he had seen improvement not just in Warsaw but outside the capital in more conservative corners of Poland, where he performs in drag. “Every year there are fewer negative reactions,” said Mr. Kobylski, who was wearing a long platinum-blond wig and three-inch-long fake eyelashes as parade volunteers decked out their floats with colorful balloons and D.J.’s tested their sound systems. After performing at a show in Warsaw, he was invited to perform in the city of Olsztyn, in the northeastern part of the country, said Mr. Kobylski, who as Tatiana sings old Russian and Polish songs. Now he appears there once a month. “People see that the gay clubs are more friendly,” he said, “that these are the places where there are no fights and you can have fun.” Yet the parade got off to an ugly start. As it reached Senatorska and Marszalkowska Streets downtown, youths chanted obscenities and yelled at the marchers to leave, before hurling eggs and plastic bottles at the first float to pass. About 2,000 police officers were there to control the crowd, one for every four people who took part in the march. A Swiss man, who said he was there to show his support, remarked that he had never seen so much security at a gay pride parade in his life. Another parade organizer, Krzysztof Kliszczynski, said that was because “it’s still happening that gays and lesbians are being attacked on the streets.” A counterdemonstration by the conservative, right-wing group All-Polish Youth drew 200 to 300 participants, according to police estimates. “Polish society is much more conservative than the establishment,” said the group’s president, Robert Winnicki, 25. “Polish society is more passive. People do not take part in the public debate. We are the voice of the majority.” The Warsaw police detained eight people for upsetting the parade by attacking police officers, throwing eggs or tearing down flags. One
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I dont endorse Ashley Tellis, especially after reading his debatable thoughts about Boy-Man love in IE. (trying to justify pedophilia intellectually - http://bit.ly/9kh106 ) But here we are speaking about the cause of discrimination basis sexuality (or anything else)... im sure we all are in the same page. here is the TOI article IIT-H sacks gay activist Ashley Tellis HYDERABAD: In an AMU redux south of the Vindhyas, Indian Institute of Technology (Hyderabad) management sacked gay rights activist and faculty member Ashley Tellis, apparently discomfited by his sexual orientation. The academic, with around 20 years of experience, was shown the door last fortnight less than a year after joining IIT-H. Being on probation, Tellis's services were terminated summarily. However, reliable sources said he was asked to leave for his unlawful behaviour and deviant mischief. IIT-Hyderabad director Uday Desai did not take calls and his office said he would be available only after June 21. It's learnt that Tellis's exit from IIT was being planned by the management ever since AMU's S R Siras was sacked for being gay in February this year. Tellis has filed a right to information (RTI) application seeking reasons behind his sudden termination and intends to have a face-off with IIT-H. Tellis was assistant professor with the liberal arts department and is a well-known voice in the gay rights movement in the country. A published author, Tellis has a PhD from Cambridge University and a long teaching career. He faced strong resistance at IIT-H from the day he joined. Ashley's entry was controversial with several groups among IIT faculty not wanting him in. There was internal bickering and resistance right from the beginning, said a source. Prior to Tellis's appointment, several faculty members had objected to his appointment. There were group mails sent against his appointment, asking the IIT director not to appoint him, a source said. Some faculty members blamed Tellis for being too candid in discussing gay issues on campus. His article on `man-boy' love in a national daily further ruffled feathers. The institute has a humanities wing but it is meant for technical education. It was found that students were extremely annoyed with Tellis's behaviour, said a faculty member. However, a number of students disagreed with the faculty members. He was one of the best teachers. Not many students had problems with him until the administration and other faculty members began asking questions about Tellis's behaviour in classroom, said a student. Students were even told to be careful with Tellis and report abuse, the student said. When contacted, university authorities refused comment saying only the director was authorized to answer these questions. Tellis is no longer with us. We do not know whether he was sacked or left on his own, said an official in the director's office. A scan of IIT-Hyderabad website revealed that Tellis's name has been deleted from the faculty list. Director in charge U V Varadaraju, when insisted upon by TOI, said, Prof Desai is out of station. Sudheer Chella Rajan, HoD of Liberal Arts Department and Tellis's boss could not be reached despite attempts. Tellis's close associates said that this is not the first time he was targeted for being gay. He had complained of being forced to quit or being terminated for being articulate about gay rights even earlier. His stints at Bombay University, where he taught in 1991, and later at St Stephen's College, Delhi, too weren't pleasant for Tellis, and he quit both jobs. Tellis was under constant pressure of being sacked even during his stint at English and Foreign Languages University, Hyderabad, said one of his associates.
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