Re: [Geeqie-devel] GPS maps

[Roger]

>If people report a problem with the map, I will try to help solve it.  But 
>from the mailing list I get the feeling that the map is not a significant 
>function for Geeqie users.

Currently I use Geeqie (as well as the past gqview) as a light weight image 
viewer.  I tend to dislike bloated software, having features not used by 
myself.

Although I do not own a camera currently which automatically embeds GPS 
coordinates, I can readily see myself using such a feature had I owned such a 
camera.  (Nor am I well inclined to manually enter coordinates within the EXIF 
information manually for each image!)

On the flip side, to ensure this feature does not encourage misconceptions, had 
I had a camera embedding coordinates, I would likely readily utilize the 
feature.

So all for having this feature, but likely having a configure time option, and 
future will likely be default as more cameras have GPS by default.

I do have a rather large image collection from the past ten years, containing 
images throughout the US and overseas, but unfortunately no GPS coordinates, 
for which you can imaging is not a good thing!  Owners having the money 
currently would also desire such features.

Hope you find the feedback useful!

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] GPS maps

[Klaus Ethgen]

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Hi Colin,

First, don't get me wrong, I like the feature. You might have seen that
I like all the GPS stuff around and having a application that work with
it is great.

On the other hand I am looking at the user base. And there, it is not
the biggest feature.

And when it comes to GTK3, I see all the down draws it has. GTK3 is that
bad, user wise, than all the gnome stuff present days. I hate the way it
is going.

Am So den 15. Mai 2016 um 17:26 schrieb Colin Clark:
> I can get an image flickering problem if I resize the image window - but 
> this depends on some combination of several things:
> If the image is scaled 1:1/fit-to-window/Gnome/XFCE etc.

Well, I usually use it on fvwm2. I dried many other desktop environments
and always came back to that.
- - Gnome is just more and more trying to treat the user as a child and
  keep him from being the one that drives the computer.
- - KDE is better that far but I do not like the resource consumption and
  the 1000 of daemons that it starts.
- - Window maker I tried once and it is not my piece of cake.
- - ratpoison I tried once... :-D
- - i3 was promising but not more.
- - mwm was the old times, never used since then.
- - ...

But I stray away from the subject.

> If people report a problem with the map, I will try to help solve it. 

I believe you. And it can be used with current version just with
explicit enabling. The problem seems not your code than the library it
is using.

However, I think that we can focus on that in 1.4.. I hope to finally
release 1.4 end of the month. (See the issues I choose for inclusion[0])

> But from the mailing list I get the feeling that the map is not a 
> significant function for Geeqie users.

Oh, for me, it is a loved feature. However, as it was proved in the
past, my likings and dislikings are not always the same of other users.
:-)

My thoughts about that are:
- - How can we control, what data is sent to openstreetmap?
- - Is there a way to have it without GTK3 atm?
- - What about such problems like the flickering I described? (From the
  bug reports I learned that users could be picky about that)
- - How is the overall speed

Regards
   Klaus

[0] https://github.com/BestImageViewer/geeqie/milestones/v1.3
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] GPS maps

[Colin Clark]

On 06/05/16 17:53, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> I installed libchamplain-0.12-dev, libclutter-gtk-1.0-dev and
> libchamplain-gtk-0.12-dev now and enabled via "--enable-gps
> --enable-clutter". (Is clutter always needed? Why not just have the gps
> switch if it is bound to clutter?)
>
> Compile and went well but...
>
> (geeqie:10413): Gtk-ERROR **: GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x 
> and GTK+ 3 in the same process is not supported
>
> :-(
>
> So at least under debian, it is not strait forward.
> Now I recompiled it completely with gtk-3 and gps support.
>
> Works that far. But it shows me why I never liked GTK-3.
> - - Mouse wheel is not working in lists anymore
> - - Buttons and layout are ugly
> - - Image display flickers when using map display
>
>
Hi Klaus

The config change was made by Vladimir on 18/8/2012 (I think). If 
clutter and libchamplain libraries are installed, and the enable-clutter 
option given, then the map is compiled in also.
The user has the option of preventing the map being included by use of 
the disable-gps option.

I can get an image flickering problem if I resize the image window - but 
this depends on some combination of several things:
If the image is scaled 1:1/fit-to-window/Gnome/XFCE etc.

I don't resize the window much, so it is no real problem for me. As for 
GTK-3, I have no choice but to use it. One of the main reasons I use 
Geeqie is because of the map - to me image location is as important as 
date-and-time.

[I have scanned in some of my old slides - but whenever I look at them 
all I think is "Which building? Which mountain? Which country?" - I wish 
GPS had been around at the time of Kodachrome 64!]

But as you have written, Geeqie is stuck with GTK.

If people report a problem with the map, I will try to help solve it. 
But from the mailing list I get the feeling that the map is not a 
significant function for Geeqie users.


Colin..


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