[gentoo-user] where is my /dev/cdrom using UDEV

2005-04-26 Thread Wenju Zhang
I have install gentoo 2005.0 with udev (without devfs) followingthe gentoo udev guide, http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xmland 
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Migrate_to_UDEVI can't find the /dev/cdrom.FYIgt-dell rules.d # dmesg |grep hdcKernel command line: hdc=ide-cd roide_setup: hdc=ide-cd ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
hdc: SAMSUNG SC-140B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drivehelp me, please.Thanks in advance.zwj

Re: [gentoo-user] where is my /dev/cdrom using UDEV

2005-04-26 Thread Mrugesh Karnik
Wenju Zhang wrote:
I have install gentoo 2005.0 with udev (without devfs) following
the gentoo udev guide, http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml
and http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Migrate_to_UDEV
I can't find the /dev/cdrom.
FYI
gt-dell rules.d # dmesg |grep hdc
Kernel command line: hdc=ide-cd ro
ide_setup: hdc=ide-cd
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
hdc: SAMSUNG SC-140B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
help me, please.
Thanks in advance.
zwj

My CD writer is found at /dev/cdroms/cdrom0
HTH
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Re: [gentoo-user] Pentium M and kernel module processor.o

2005-04-26 Thread Marc Schlienger
Am Montag, 25. April 2005 22:46 schrieb Erik:
 Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
 On Monday 25 April 2005 12:41 pm, Erik wrote:
 Marc Schlienger wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've got a notebook with Intel Pentium M processor (Dell Latitude D800)
 and experienced the following problem: There is a strange sound
 (beep-beep-beep ...) which seems to come from the processor. C
 
 I also have strange beeping sounds on my Dell Pentium M laptop
 sometimes. (Especially once when I booted with the kernel parameter
 init=/bin/bash because of a Gentoo problem. Then it was a constant
 beep.) Now the problem has not appeared for a few days. It helps to hold
 down an arrow key, but when it is released, the beep comes back. Very
 strange...
 
 Do any of you run kfani8k or teh i8k module?

 No.

Hi,

it is not necessary to use i8k since there is a fan control built in. 
Furthermore the effect I described before has nothing to do with i8k!

Regards Marc
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[gentoo-user] Nothing but trouble with Gnome-light

2005-04-26 Thread Patrick Marquetecken
Hi,

After i have installed Gnome-light 2.8.1 on a new computer i have only
troubles, it started out with than new nenu items are not visible, but now
if i rename a existing one it disapears also. On top of that Rhythmbox is
as buggy as can be, removing or adding a single item causes a crash and
Rhythmbox shuts down.
I have Gnome (full) working on a other machines and there with the same
software i have no problems, it started from gnome 2.6.x and upgrades
during  several months. There is no diference between Gnome-light and
Gnome exept that there are less packages ?

Is the someone on the list who has a explenation for this behaviour.
I can't work that way, and must take some action and probely switch to
Fluxbox.

TIA
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail will not star KDInit Error

2005-04-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:55:28 +1000, Richard Watson wrote:

 kmail: error while loading shared libraries: libpcreposix.so.0: cannot
 open shared object file: No such file or directory

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ qpkg -fp libpcreposix.so.0
dev-libs/libpcre

It looks like you need to (re)emerge libpcre

emerge -1av dev-libs/libpcre


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Help with partitioning

2005-04-26 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 12:50 +0530, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:

 I have 768MB of RAM and so far I haven't seen it use any swap. So I'm 
 planning on a 256MB swap partition. Also, there will be a /boot which 
 would be about 50MB.

Is this laptop or desktop?? Swap may still be needed if you're planning
on doing any hibernation.


 Now for the important part. I am planning on using ccache and keepwork 

What's keepwork?

ccache by default uses 1GB IIRC but it can be set via a make.conf option
ccache is only useful if you do a lot of re-compiling.

 Also, I'm not planning on installing anything in /opt. But I'll be 
 installing both blackdown and Sun JRE and JDK. I'm not sure how much 
 that'll take up. Oh, and anything else that installs itself in /opt by 
 default that I don't know of?

All the binary packages eg: mozilla-bin/mozilla-firefox-bin/

 After all this... I'm not sure how much /tmp I'll need!

TMP will also be used for IPC and emerge temp files. (/var/tmp is
symlinked to /tmp?? I'm not sure)
 
 And when all of the above LVM2 partitions (or should I say, volumes!) 
 are done and dusted, how much would I need for / which would on a 
 non-LVM partition. 200 MB?

What about your other partitions?? /usr ??

 Can anyone help me design a partitioning scheme based on what I've said 
 above?

If for me

Swap - 1.5GB (if I want to use hibernate, else it's 700MB)
/- 2GB (since ccache uses /root/.ccache by default)
/usr - 1GB
/usr/portage - 5GB
/home  - 20GB?
/opt - 500MB
/tmp - 1GB

That's just me. 


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Re: [gentoo-user] WARNING: /etc removed from CONFIG_PROTECT portage-2.0.51.20

2005-04-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 00:02:36 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:

  Today it is calling for 2.0.51.20-r4, any problems here?
 
 not any more. It did stop emerge working altogether on two computers
 here, but resyncing and re-emerging it seemed to fix the problem (I
 noticed the USE flags for portage had changed after the resync).

Update. r4 stopped working again. The fix is available from
http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=57171action=view


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Help with partitioning

2005-04-26 Thread W.Kenworthy
On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 12:50 +0530, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
 Hello folks,
 
...
 I have 768MB of RAM and so far I haven't seen it use any swap. So I'm 
 planning on a 256MB swap partition. Also, there will be a /boot which 
 would be about 50MB.
 
Traditionally swap was set to twice ram: I think it was because a crash
can cause the ram contents to be written to swap for recovery - no
longer relevant I believe.  If you intend using software suspend you
will also need something like twice ram.  If you do any graphics work,
be prepared to use a LOT of swap.  Using gimp on multiple 300M tif files
can easily chew up gigabytes of swap, as can some versions of gnumeric.
In short, err on the side of safety or you will find yourself
repartitioning ... I use 2 G on one machine with 1G ram (inadequate) and
3G swap/1G ram on another (also inadequate), however my
gateway/emergency desktop has 1G swap (and 512 RAM) which is usually
barely touched unless I start X.  I use a swap file (vice a swap
partition) which I can quickly add when I am running out of swap space -
works but terribly slow!

 Now for the important part. I am planning on using ccache and keepwork 
 feature with portage. I'm wondering where I should set these two 
 directories. How much space should I reserve for them and in which 
 partition(s)?
..
80 G may not be enough with keepwork!  Its best enable for just those
packages where you need it.  The /var/tmp directory fills up quick
enough as is ...

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Re: [gentoo-user] where is my /dev/cdrom using UDEV

2005-04-26 Thread Robert S
Try this:

Create a file called /etc/udev/rules.d/10-udev.rules

Insert the following in the file

BUS=pci, KERNEL=hdc, SYSFS{vendor}=0x10de, NAME=%k,
SYMLINK=cdrom cdroms/cdrom%n

You'll need to change the SYSFS{vendor} statement and you'll probably
need to reboot.

There's a HOWTO in the gentoo docs on udev - and a very useful link on
creating rules.


On 4/26/05, Wenju Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have install gentoo 2005.0 with udev (without devfs) following
 the gentoo udev guide,
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml
 and http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Migrate_to_UDEV
 
 I can't find the /dev/cdrom.
 
 FYI
 
 gt-dell rules.d # dmesg |grep hdc
 Kernel command line: hdc=ide-cd ro
 ide_setup: hdc=ide-cd
 ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio 
 hdc: SAMSUNG SC-140B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
 
 
 help me, please.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 zwj


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[gentoo-user] Can i find Freecraft music file?

2005-04-26 Thread taurus
I dig google.com download.com altavista.com...
freecfaft.org web site closed so I wonder
if anyone has music-pack-030226.tar.gz file?
Maybe on yours distfiles ? :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ideas

2005-04-26 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 22:17 +1000, Devraj Mukherjee wrote:
 I am not sure if this is the right forum to discuss ideas for emerge, 
 and for all I know this features may already exists in the current 
 versions of emerge but I thought I'd take a chance and write down my 
 idea anyway.
 
 1. Emerge with a time delay, so that one can specify big emerge tasks 
 for say midnight for proper bandwidth usage etc. I know you can do this 
 with a combination of utilites (such as cron) but it would be neat to 
 have it as part of emerge.
 
 2. Background downloading, of packages while emerge compiles other 
 packages. For example when I am compiling something huge like GNome, 
 while a package like GTK is being compiled, emerge should be clever and 
 download the next package and save time.
 
 If these ideas are of some use I hope someone can send it to the right 
 people, and obviously if they require any help with coding (which I am 
 sure they dont) I am happy to contribute.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $ sudo emerge ideas
Calculating dependencies
emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy ideas.


seriously though,

1. timed events:

one off/casual, use at
regular, cron

Although others have said that, its important to know that This is the
unix way i.e. small programs/daemons chained together. It would be
heresy to put timed/regular emergeing into portage, when unix provides
at and cron and scripting languages.

2. emergeing with background download.

emerge -f[other parameters] world

move to another xterm/console

emerge [other parameters] world

make sure locks are enabled, then if the compiling instance catches up
to the downloading instance, it will wait for the download to finish.


 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Pentium M and kernel module processor.o

2005-04-26 Thread Nick Rout
I have heard of a similar problem before, but as I am not lucky enough
to have a pentium-m system i didn't take it all in.

I suggest you look at the Linux Thinkpad mailing list archives. I'm
pretty sure thats where it was.

If I find it in my own overfull mail system I will let you know.

On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 12:51 +0200, Marc Schlienger wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've got a notebook with Intel Pentium M processor (Dell Latitude D800) and 
 experienced the following problem: There is a strange sound 
 (beep-beep-beep ...) which seems to come from the processor. Currently I'm 
 using kernel 2.6.11-gentoo-r5 but this sound is also there with every other 
 kernel I tried. And I tried many kernels. I then realized after playing 
 arround with the kernel config that the kernel module processor is the 
 source of the problem. As I need this module to be able to change the 
 processor speed it is no solution not to compile this module into the kernel 
 or not to use it as module. I heard of a processor module from Intel but 
 couldn't find it yet for 2.6.x kernels.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Regards Marc
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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-headers-2.6.* masked by: profile

2005-04-26 Thread Edward Catmur
On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 22:00 -0700, Robert Persson wrote:
 !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6 have been 
 masked.
 !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
 - sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-r2 (masked by: profile)
 - sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.11 (masked by: profile, -* keyword)
 - sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-r4 (masked by: profile, ~x86 keyword)
 
 For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or
 section 2.2 Software Availability in the Gentoo Handbook.
 !!!(dependency required by sys-apps/hal-0.4.7-r2 [ebuild])

Switch profile to /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0 or
similar.


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[gentoo-user] alsaconf doesn't recognize sound card, but kernel does

2005-04-26 Thread Francisco Santiago Capel Torres
Hi, after upgrading my kernel to 2.6 successfully, I am doing the last steps 
regarding the sound configuration. 
But when I run alsaconf it says No supported PnP or PCI card found 
However, the sound car is working, this is the output of lspci:

:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM 
(ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)


And this the ouptut of dmesg:

Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.8 (Thu Jan 13 09:39:32 
2005 UTC).
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 5
PCI: setting IRQ 5 as level-triggered
ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:1f.5[B] - GSI 5 (level, low) - IRQ 5
PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:1f.5 to 64
intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 49291 usecs
intel8x0: clocking to 48000
ALSA device list:
  #0: Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with AD1981B at 0xfeb7fa00, irq 5


Can I just ignore this step of running alsaconf?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Pentium M and kernel module processor.o

2005-04-26 Thread Nick Rout
threads starting here:

http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/pipermail/linux-thinkpad/2005-January/023555.html

http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/pipermail/linux-thinkpad/2005-February/024205.html

http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/pipermail/linux-thinkpad/2005-April/025815.html

http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/pipermail/linux-thinkpad/2004-May/017559.html

not sure if its the same problem, may be worth a look :-)




On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 22:11 +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
 I have heard of a similar problem before, but as I am not lucky enough
 to have a pentium-m system i didn't take it all in.
 
 I suggest you look at the Linux Thinkpad mailing list archives. I'm
 pretty sure thats where it was.
 
 If I find it in my own overfull mail system I will let you know.
 
 On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 12:51 +0200, Marc Schlienger wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I've got a notebook with Intel Pentium M processor (Dell Latitude D800) and 
  experienced the following problem: There is a strange sound 
  (beep-beep-beep ...) which seems to come from the processor. Currently I'm 
  using kernel 2.6.11-gentoo-r5 but this sound is also there with every other 
  kernel I tried. And I tried many kernels. I then realized after playing 
  arround with the kernel config that the kernel module processor is the 
  source of the problem. As I need this module to be able to change the 
  processor speed it is no solution not to compile this module into the 
  kernel 
  or not to use it as module. I heard of a processor module from Intel but 
  couldn't find it yet for 2.6.x kernels.
  
  Any suggestions?
  
  Regards Marc
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT prefixing Line numbers in codes for printing

2005-04-26 Thread Edward Catmur
On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 11:22 +0900, Steve B wrote:
 On an even more off topic note.. anybody know how use some nifty CSS
 or similar to take a block of text (code) and automaticly add line
 numbers? I guess I could use PHP but was looking for a CSS type style.

Nice idea, but I don't think the lines within a code block are
addressable by CSS, as they don't appear in the document tree and don't
have pseudo-element selectors (not even in CSS3, AFAICR).

Seeing as the code needs processing anyway to escape XML-semantic
characters, you may as well pass it through a syntax-colouring module;
that will do escaping, line numbering and syntax colouring all in one
go.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Kmail will not star KDInit Error

2005-04-26 Thread Richard Watson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ qpkg -fp libpcreposix.so.0
dev-libs/libpcre

It looks like you need to (re)emerge libpcre

emerge -1av dev-libs/libpcre

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Thanks for the suggestion. I'll give it a try. I always value your
suggestions.  

Regards, Richard

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[gentoo-user] stripping down to base system

2005-04-26 Thread Christian Affolter
Hi,

a week ago, I posted to the gentoo-server list with some questions
regarding gentoo in an infrastructure.
I've got still one specific question which I would like to ask to a
bigger audience (sorry to those people also in gentoo-server).

So, here's my question:
What's the best way to strip a gentoo installation down to it's base
system?
It shouldn't contain any dev tools/libs (no compiler, headers etc.) only
the necessary base system.


Many thanks in advance!
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RE: [gentoo-user] OT - Help with partitioning

2005-04-26 Thread Patrick Marquetecken
snip
almost like mine
 To that end, I usually have around 10 different partitions:

   1. / - large enough to hold the basic root entities (/etc, /bin, /sbin,
 and /lib).
1 GB
   2. /boot - 100M because I like to keep working kernels around for
 awhile.
50MB just 2 kernels
   3. /usr - Large enough to hold the /usr contents minus /usr/portage.
3 GB
   4. /usr/local - Separated to ensure that local installs don't kill the
 /usr partition.
   5. /usr/portage - Keeps portage out of the /usr tree and simplifies
5GB
 /usr/portage partition resize when needed.
   6. /opt
1GB
   7. /var
512 Mb
   8. /tmp
512Mb
   9. /var/tmp - Separated from /var so that temp space usage doesn't
 interfere with the spool (etc.) contents normally in /var.
3GB
  10. /home
enough ..

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Re: [gentoo-user] USB mouse stalls under X after some time of inactivity

2005-04-26 Thread Richard Fish
Thomas Drueke wrote:

Okay. While writing it happens again and it seems that the previous
information is now obvious. Now even the cat /dev/input/mice does not
bring back my mouse. GRRR. :-)

BR
Thomas
  


Well, the only other thing I can think of is to switch to udev, since
devfs is obsolete and unsupported.  Possibly there is some interaction
between devfs and the HID drivers that is causing this problem...I don't
really know.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Help with partitioning

2005-04-26 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 18:34 +0530, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
 Hello,
 
 This is a desktop system that I'm planning the partitioning scheme for.
 
 OK. I hadn't thought about software suspend. So 1.5 GB swap it is!
Then you might be interested to read it up on the article on the myoss
magazine - http://mag.my-opensource.org


  I had 
 initially chosen 256MB because, not even the full 768 MB of RAM was used 
 when running KDE 3.4, a movie in Kaffein and update world in the 
 background! 0 MB of swap was used. Back then I had 1.2GB of swap.

Do you use evolution? I have 512MB and maybe it's my usage pattern my
huge # of emails in evolution. I touch the swap.

 Also, I don't think I'll be installing any binary packages. So, how much 
 do I give for /opt? Or rather, how much space would Java take up?
 

my /opt is 1.2GB
Acrobat7RealPlayer  blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.01  cxofficefirefox
rarvmware
OpenOffice.org  bin blackdown-jre-1.4.2.01  doom3-demo  netscape
share

is what I have


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Help with partitioning

2005-04-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:34:36 +0530, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:

 Also, I don't think I'll be installing any binary packages. So, how
 much do I give for /opt? Or rather, how much space would Java take up?

I found using a separate partition for /opt was a pain, so I mounted /usr/
opt at /opt. It keeps partitioning that bit simpler. I do the same with /
var on a desktop, although I use a separate /var partition on a server. I
have a total of five system partition, more than enough IMO:

/   350M
/boot50M
swap  1G
/usr  8G
/tmp  2G


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RE: [gentoo-user] OT - Help with partitioning

2005-04-26 Thread William Kenworthy
On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 09:56 -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote:
  Also, I don't think I'll be installing any binary packages. So, how much
  do I give for /opt? Or rather, how much space would Java take up?
 
 I've got blackdown, sun jdk, a few other apps installed in /opt.  I
 originally set my partition to 4g, but currently only use 495mb.  So you
 should be fine with 500mb or slightly slimmer.

 Dave

Ive some cleaning to do, but its well over 500M at the moment!

rattus opt # ls -al
total 1
drwxr-xr-x  17 root   root544 Mar 19 15:14 .
drwxr-xr-x  19 root   root480 Feb 18 13:48 ..
drwxr-xr-x   2 root   root152 Feb 27 19:17 bin
drwxr-xr-x   8 root   root192 Feb 21  2003 blackdown-jdk-1.4.1
drwxr-xr-x   8 root   root192 Nov 25 23:05 blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.01
drwxr-xr-x   6 root   root144 Apr 15  2003 blackdown-jre-1.4.1
drwxr-xr-x   6 root   root144 Nov 26 00:15 blackdown-jre-1.4.2.01
-rw-r--r--   1 root   root  0 Dec  6 17:43 .keep
drwxr-xr-x   5 root   root312 May 19  2004 netscape
drwxr-xr-x   9 root   root232 Mar 19  2004 omtest
drwxr-xr-x   6 root   root352 Apr 16 18:56 OpenOffice.org
drwxr-xr-x   4 root   root 96 Apr 14  2004 OpenOffice.org1.1.1_rc1
drwxr-xr-x   5 root   root120 Dec  5  2002 rar
drwxr-xr-x   9 root   root320 Apr 23 18:16 RealPlayer
drwxr-xr-x   5 root   root288 Mar 19 15:14 RealPlayer8
drwxr-xr-x   2 nobody nogroup 176 Dec  7 10:24 setiathome
drwxr-xr-x   5 root   root176 Mar 20 14:34 skype
drwxr-xr-x   6 root   root144 Jul  6  2002 vmware
rattus opt # du -sh
661M.
rattus opt #


/var should have at least 4-5G free to build openoffice

I use LVM, adding a second disk was easy - just grew the volume and
relevant partitions, expanded the reiserfs file systems and my problem
with lack of space was gone.  Highly reccomended for future proofing on
any system - even single disk systems.  I also find multiple partitions
very wasteful - most partitions have plenty of space, one runs out of
room and the systems crashes or data is lost.  From experience, its much
safer, and much less work to have fewer partitions (and therefore more
headroom - space) and move them around using LVM so the space is shared
around.  Depends on your usage and application of course - I wouldnt do
that on a large, multi user system for instance.

Also, I didnt put swap on the LVM - I didnt think that was reccomended
at all?

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RE: [gentoo-user] OT - Help with partitioning

2005-04-26 Thread Dave Nebinger
 I use LVM, adding a second disk was easy - just grew the volume and
 relevant partitions, expanded the reiserfs file systems and my problem
 with lack of space was gone.  Highly reccomended for future proofing on
 any system - even single disk systems.  I also find multiple partitions
 very wasteful - most partitions have plenty of space, one runs out of
 room and the systems crashes or data is lost.  From experience, its much
 safer, and much less work to have fewer partitions (and therefore more
 headroom - space) and move them around using LVM so the space is shared
 around.  Depends on your usage and application of course - I wouldnt do
 that on a large, multi user system for instance.

Yeah, this may be true but we seem to be talking about the 'amount of work'
to do things on LVM vs non-LVM.

Honestly I really don't see a significant argument for this on one side or
the other.

I partitioned my disks years ago w/o LVM and, due to pre-planning to
accommodate future growth needs, haven't had to touch the partitions since
then.  I would imagine that the same could be said by folks running LVM.

I did partition my system with 10+ separate partitions because I've seen
what a pain it can be trying to resolve a full partition on some critical
paths (i.e. /, /usr, /var) and have found that isolating them offers some
protection for system usability should such partitions fill.

We all have our own backgrounds and our own experience and knowledge which
push us towards one method or another.

My recommendation to the OP is to go with what he feels is right.  Sure,
consider what folks on the list are suggesting, but in the end you're going
to come up with something that will work for you.

And since it is relatively easy to handle partition growth using either
method (lvm vs. non-lvm), you really can't lose regardless which way you go.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA, XMMS Integrated Sound

2005-04-26 Thread Kurt Guenther
Christoph Gysin wrote:

 Kurt Guenther wrote:

 It seems that my XMMS takes an exclusive lock on sound.  Something like
 GAIM can't chime when it wants to.  Is there a way around this? 
 Different player?


 Did you select the ALSA-output plugin?


For XMMS, yes.


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Re: [gentoo-user] problem with setting up home router [SOLVED]

2005-04-26 Thread askar ...
 Great!  I'm glad we could help you work it out.
 
 To summarize, then, the setup of the iptables rules (especially regarding
 the forwards and nat rules) should use ppp0 rather than the eth1 (which is
 the actual lan interface card).
 
 By using ppp0 rather than eth1 the traffic is now properly forwarded from
 the lan to the internet and back.
 
Thank you very much. 
Next time I can setup faster. However I have to study about iptables.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Digest of gentoo-user@robin.gentoo.org issue 28 (6578-6627)

2005-04-26 Thread Juha Kilpinen



Re: [gentoo-user] alsaconf doesn't recognize sound card, but kernel does

2005-04-26 Thread Mark Knecht
It may just be an oversite in alsaconf. Someone should post a bug
report a the Alsa bug site and let them know to look into it.

On 4/26/05, Tres Melton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have the same issue on my machine.  It's strange since my alsa sound
 is working just fine.  Gnome's alsa-mixer can adjust all of the inputs
 but alsaconf insists that there is no device found.
 
 I have an MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum and am using onboard sound.
 
 On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 11:24 +0100, Francisco Santiago Capel Torres
 wrote:
  Hi, after upgrading my kernel to 2.6 successfully, I am doing the last steps
  regarding the sound configuration.
  But when I run alsaconf it says No supported PnP or PCI card found
  However, the sound car is working, this is the output of lspci:
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Help with partitioning

2005-04-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Hi,

the more partitions, the more wasted space.

For example /var 2gb /vat is mostly enough, but sometimes, you need 4,6,8 GB, 
but 6/8GB /var is just overkill.

/home should always be on its own partition, this way, you can reinstall 
everything without risking your user-data, or share /home between installs.

Some time back, I used /boot /swap /home /tmp /var /opt, /usr/local, all on 
different partitions of different disks.
But for a single-user system like mine, I ended with a lot of 85% full 
partitions and a lot of wasted gb.
Now I have /root /home /boot /swap and / is big enough, that nothing should 
fill it up ...
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Re: [gentoo-user] A binary choice for a DVD burner... URGENT!

2005-04-26 Thread Mrugesh Karnik
Thanks to all the people who replied. I finally bought the LG GSA-4163B. 
Interestingly, it must be the only component in my system that isn't 
made in China. This thing's made in Japan. Interesting! Well, I haven't 
had a chance to use it with Gentoo yet, but its working as expected on 
Windows (Ok. Don't hate me! I'm right now using the burner to backup the 
data, so that I can convert the entire disk to Linux, which right now 
takes up 15GB!)  Anyways, thanks once again for all your replies :)

Regards,
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[gentoo-user] Recommendation for online contact manager?

2005-04-26 Thread Travis Osterman
Does anyone have a good recommendation for a contact information
management system for a relatively small group of people (~200)?  I
would prefer web-based and it should allow users to update their own
information easily while allowing everyone easy access to searching
and viewing the directory.

Thanks for any input.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless Network adapetors?

2005-04-26 Thread Toby Cubitt
On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 04:20:51PM +0100, Ognjen Bezanov wrote:
 Toby Cubitt wrote:
 
 I recently successfully set up my gentoo box as a wireless access point using
 a D-link DWL-G520, which is based on the Atheros chipset so is supported by
 the madwifi driver (in portage). It does 54Mbps, and setting it up was
 hassle-free for me.
 
 Wait a min, I thought that Prism-based cards are the only ones which are
 capable of working as Access points, how did you manage this?

I guess luckily no one told me that! As far as I understand it, the only thing
you need in order to use a card as an access point is to be able to set it to
master mode. The madwifi and Prism drivers both support this.

I've no idea how new support for master mode is in the madwifi driver, so
maybe what you said was true until recently. But it definitely works now.

 The only thing I haven't got working with it yet is WPA encryption. 
 Apparently
 it is possible, just not well documented at the moment. WEP is working fine
 though. (If anyone has any tips on how to get WPA working, I'd love to hear
 them!)
 
 Sorry cannot help, but am interested in this, because its getting harder
 for me to find new cards with the older prism chipsets to use as access
 points.

Yup. That's exactly why I ended up buying an Atheros based card.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Pentium M and kernel module processor.o

2005-04-26 Thread Michael W. Holdeman
On Monday 25 April 2005 11:42 pm, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 22:46 +0200, Erik wrote:
  Do any of you run kfani8k or teh i8k module?

 You've to load it with force=1 parameter

Yes I can get it to load, and run well. The problem seems to be that it borks 
kmilo, at least on Inspiron 8600's see bug :  
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97803 

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Re: [gentoo-user] WARNING: /etc removed from CONFIG_PROTECT portage-2.0.51.20

2005-04-26 Thread Michael W. Holdeman
On Tuesday 26 April 2005 04:19 am, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 00:02:36 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
   Today it is calling for 2.0.51.20-r4, any problems here?
 
  not any more. It did stop emerge working altogether on two computers
  here, but resyncing and re-emerging it seemed to fix the problem (I
  noticed the USE flags for portage had changed after the resync).

 Update. r4 stopped working again. The fix is available from
 http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=57171action=view
is -r5 ok?

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[gentoo-user] jpilot-syncmal problem

2005-04-26 Thread Dave S
I have a m505 pda syncing through jpilot.

I am running jpilot-syncmal so I can download from the avantgo server.
Having set up several channels all of which work perfectly, I cannot get
the 'onlineweather.com' to update.

If I remove  re-install the chanel it updates but not when I just sync.

I have setup jpilot-syncmal to update on every sync,

Any suggestions ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendation for online contact manager?

2005-04-26 Thread The Disguised Jedi
Try Plaxo. Don't know about Linux compatibility but it should work with Wine...

www.plaxo.com
On 4/26/05, Travis Osterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: [gentoo-user] game savage

2005-04-26 Thread Jose Moreira
i have the same script (it comes distributed)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Savage $ pwd
/opt/Savage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Savage $ cat savage
#!/bin/sh
# Needed to make symlinks/shortcuts work.
# the binaries must run with correct working directory
cd /opt/Savage
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=libs:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH ./savage.bin /opt/Savage
exit 0

Heinz Sporn wrote:
Hi!
I believe I had that same issue. Created a tiny trivial start script:
#!/bin/sh
# Needed to make symlinks/shortcuts work.
# the binaries must run with correct working directory
cd /workdir/games/savage
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=libs:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH ./savage.bin /workdir/games/savage
exit 0
Regards
spox
Am Montag, den 25.04.2005, 22:09 +0100 schrieb Jose Moreira:
hello i'm tring to play Savage on linux and have a problem with libpng.
the binary was compiled with 1.2.5 and i have 1.2.8. I get:
-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Savage $ sh savage
./silverback.bin: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: no version information available
(required by ./silverback.bin)
System_Init()
PNG header and library versions do not match
-
'ldd' states:
-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Savage $ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=libs:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH  ldd
silverback.bin
./silverback.bin: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: no version information available
(required by ./silverback.bin)
   linux-gate.so.1 =  (0xe000)
   libSDL-1.2.so.0 = libs/libSDL-1.2.so.0 (0xb7f81000)
   libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7f15000)
   libglib-2.0.so.0 = libs/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0xb7eb2000)
   libGL.so.1 = /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 (0xb7e46000)
   libGLU.so.1 = /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1 (0xb7dca000)
   libXext.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0xb7dbc000)
libpng.so.3 = /usr/lib/libpng.so.3 (0xb7d8b000)
   libjpeg.so.62 = /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0xb7d6d000)
   libfreetype.so.6 = libs/libfreetype.so.6 (0xb7d2e000)
   libz.so.1 = /lib/libz.so.1 (0xb7d1e000)
   libssl.so.0.9.7 = /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.7 (0xb7cee000)
   libcurl.so.2 = libs/libcurl.so.2 (0xb7cc6000)
   libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7bb)
   libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb7b8d000)
   libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7b89000)
   libcrypto.so.0.9.7 = /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7 (0xb7a8b000)
   libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0xb79c)
   /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7feb000)
   libXxf86vm.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1 (0xb79bb000)
   libstdc++.so.5
= /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/libstdc++.so.5
(0xb78fd000)
   libgcc_s.so.1
= /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/libgcc_s.so.1
(0xb78f4000)
   libssl.so.0.9.6 = libs/libssl.so.0.9.6 (0xb78c7000)
   libcrypto.so.0.9.6 = libs/libcrypto.so.0.9.6 (0xb7807000)
-
it uses my system libpng instead of the libs one
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Savage $ ll libs
total 4098
-rwxr-xr-x  1 vice users   1420 Apr 25 21:52 a.out
-rw-r--r--  1 vice users 332612 Apr 23 04:33 libSDL-1.2.so.0
-rw-r--r--  1 vice users 771908 Apr 23 04:33 libcrypto.so.0.9.6
-rwxr--r--  1 vice users 601408 Apr 23 04:34 libcurl.so.2
-rw-r--r--  1 vice users 447676 Apr 23 04:33 libfmod-3.63.so
-rwxr--r--  1 vice users 489564 Apr 23 04:34 libfmod.so
-rw-r--r--  1 vice users 251480 Apr 23 04:33 libfreetype.so.6
-rw-r--r--  1 vice users 406096 Apr 23 04:33 libglib-2.0.so.0
-rw-r--r--  1 vice users   5908 Apr 23 04:33 libmd5.so.0
-rw-r--r--  1 vice users 175132 Apr 23 04:33 libpng.so.2
-rwxr-xr-x  1 vice users 212936 Apr 23 13:56 libpng12.so.0.1.2.5
-rw-r--r--  1 vice users 182084 Apr 23 04:33 libssl.so.0.9.6
-rw-r--r--  1 vice users 288540 Apr 23 04:33 libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3

My system follows:




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[gentoo-user] openmotif vs motif-config dependancy blockers

2005-04-26 Thread Michael W. Holdeman
emerge -uvDa world yeilds blockers between motif-congif and openmotif today..

Fix?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendation for online contact manager?

2005-04-26 Thread Travis Osterman
 Try Plaxo.  Don't know about Linux compatibility but it should work with
 Wine... 
   
 www.plaxo.com

I was really hoping for more of a web application and I would rather
host it myself if possible.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendation for online contact manager?

2005-04-26 Thread A. Khattri
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005, Travis Osterman wrote:

  Try Plaxo.  Don't know about Linux compatibility but it should work with
  Wine...
 
  www.plaxo.com

 I was really hoping for more of a web application and I would rather
 host it myself if possible.

Maybe one of the groupware packages like egroupware or phpgroupware?


# esearch groupware
[ Results for search key : groupware ]
[ Applications found : 3 ]

*  www-apps/egroupware
  Latest version available: 1.0.0.007
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 10,824 kB
  Homepage:http://www.eGroupWare.org/
  Description: Web-based GroupWare suite. It contains many modules
  License: GPL-2

*  www-apps/moregroupware [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.7.2
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 1,872 kB
  Homepage:http://moregroupware.sourceforge.net/
  Description: more.groupware is another web based groupware
  License: X11 GPL-2

*  www-apps/phpgroupware [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.9.16.005
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 17,059 kB
  Homepage:http://www.phpgroupware.org/
  Description: intranet/groupware tool and application framework
  License: GPL-2

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Re: [gentoo-user] modprobe error

2005-04-26 Thread A. Khattri
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Paul Kain wrote:

 nope no joy :(

When you installed the current kernel, did you do make modules_install
???



 On 4/25/05, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Paul Kain wrote:
 
   Hi there
  
   I get this error at boot
  
   modprobe: FATAL: Could not load
   /lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r3/modules.dep no such file or directory
 
  have you tried running modules-update ???
 
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baud /bawd/ n.

 [simplified from its technical meaning]
   n. Bits per second.  Hence kilobaud or Kbaud, thousands of bits per
   second.  The technical meaning is `level transitions per
   second'; this coincides with bps only for two-level modulation with
   no framing or stop bits.  Most hackers are aware of these nuances
   but blithely ignore them.

Historical note: `baud' was originally a unit of telegraph
   signalling speed, set at one pulse per second.  It was proposed at
   the November, 1926 conference of the Comiteacute; Consultatif
   International Des Communications Teacute;leacute;graphiques as an
   improvement on the then standard practice of referring to line
   speeds in terms of words per minute, and named for Jean Maurice
   Emile Baudot (1845-1903), a French engineer who did a lot
   of pioneering work in early teleprinters.

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Re: [gentoo-user] modprobe error

2005-04-26 Thread Mark Knecht
   
modprobe: FATAL: Could not load
/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r3/modules.dep no such file or directory
  
   have you tried running modules-update ???
  
   --
  
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 --
 baud /bawd/ n.
 
  [simplified from its technical meaning]
n. Bits per second.  Hence kilobaud or Kbaud, thousands of bits per
second.  The technical meaning is `level transitions per
second'; this coincides with bps only for two-level modulation with
no framing or stop bits.  Most hackers are aware of these nuances
but blithely ignore them.
 
 Historical note: `baud' was originally a unit of telegraph
signalling speed, set at one pulse per second.  It was proposed at
the November, 1926 conference of the Comiteacute; Consultatif
International Des Communications Teacute;leacute;graphiques as an
improvement on the then standard practice of referring to line
speeds in terms of words per minute, and named for Jean Maurice
Emile Baudot (1845-1903), a French engineer who did a lot
of pioneering work in early teleprinters.
 
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Sorry. I wasn't readign the thread:

#1) Does it exist?

slocate modules.dep

#2) Can you create it?

depmod -a
slocate modules.dep

Good luck,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] openmotif vs motif-config dependancy blockers

2005-04-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:26:12 -0400, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:

 emerge -uvDa world yeilds blockers between motif-congif and openmotif
 today..
 
 Fix?

unmerge openmotif and run emerge -uvDa world again.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage corrupted? Trying to install non-existant packages

2005-04-26 Thread Calvin Spealman
I did what Edward and Jason suggested, and now portage looks ready to
do its job again. Now, I only have to wait for the 99 packages I need
updated to download, compile, and install. A month + with no updates,
leaves lots of time at a terminal in my hands. Thanks for all the help
everybody!On 4/25/05, Edward Catmur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 19:21 +, Calvin Spealman wrote: See, thats part of the problem: there is no package called 'mad'. There is gnomad and madplay, but no package just called 'mad'. I had the same trouble with portage trying to install motif, instead of
 openmotif, which actually does exist. I don't know why, but portage just started trying to update packages that aren't there. Might it have to do with any changes in naming of packages, or some of the
 package splits over the last month or two? (My computer has been packed up since early March)Check your overlays. I get this occasionally from bugfix ebuilds thataren't updated when Portage-tree ebuilds are.
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to login with slogin?

2005-04-26 Thread Willie Wong
Do you have sshd running on the router or on a box inside the network?

W

On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 11:20:56PM +0600, askar ... wrote:
 I setup iptables according with 
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml.
 Now I want to login to my linux box from outside.
 In iptables setup written:
 (Optional) Allow access to our ssh server from the WAN
 # iptables -A INPUT -p TCP --dport ssh -i eth1 -j ACCEPT
 From remote computer I type 'ssh -l askar my.domain' and I got:
 ssh: connect to host my.ip-address port 22: Connection timed out
 
 I thought '# iptables -A INPUT -p TCP --dport ssh -i eth1 -j ACCEPT' let me 
 login from remote computer?
 I understand that slogin and ssh are the same things.
 
 askar

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Re: [gentoo-user] modprobe error

2005-04-26 Thread Paul Kain
I did yes

but I have no mudles specified in my modules.autoload and I didnt
spoecify a single module in my kernal

I am still getting this error





On 4/26/05, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Paul Kain wrote:
 
  nope no joy :(
 
 When you installed the current kernel, did you do make modules_install
 ???
 
 
 
  On 4/25/05, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Paul Kain wrote:
  
Hi there
   
I get this error at boot
   
modprobe: FATAL: Could not load
/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r3/modules.dep no such file or directory
  
   have you tried running modules-update ???
  
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 --
 baud /bawd/ n.
 
  [simplified from its technical meaning]
n. Bits per second.  Hence kilobaud or Kbaud, thousands of bits per
second.  The technical meaning is `level transitions per
second'; this coincides with bps only for two-level modulation with
no framing or stop bits.  Most hackers are aware of these nuances
but blithely ignore them.
 
 Historical note: `baud' was originally a unit of telegraph
signalling speed, set at one pulse per second.  It was proposed at
the November, 1926 conference of the Comiteacute; Consultatif
International Des Communications Teacute;leacute;graphiques as an
improvement on the then standard practice of referring to line
speeds in terms of words per minute, and named for Jean Maurice
Emile Baudot (1845-1903), a French engineer who did a lot
of pioneering work in early teleprinters.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] alsaconf doesn't recognize sound card, but kernel does

2005-04-26 Thread Christoph Eckert

 It may just be an oversite in alsaconf. Someone should post
 a bug report a the Alsa bug site and let them know to look
 into it.

Meanwhile, perhaps something like

alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0

in your

/etc/modules.d/alsa

can set up your card.


 Best regards


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Re: [gentoo-user] modprobe error

2005-04-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On 4/26/05, Paul Kain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 #1) Does it exist?
 
 slocate modules.dep
 
 gentoo root # slocate modules.dep
 /usr/share/man/man5/modules.dep/5/gz
 
 #2) Can you create it?
 
 gentoo root # depmod -a slocate modules.dep
 WARNING: couldn't open directory /lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r3: no
 such file or directory
 FATAL: could not open  /lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r3/modules.dep.temp
 for writing: No such file or directory
 
 I uess thats bad huh ?

Very bad, but my command was inaccurate according to this email.
Please try once more:

depmod -a

and then do 

ls /lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r3. slocate wouldn't have worked unless
you did another updatedb. ls will always work

One more command you should post back is just 

ls -la /lib/modules


I think that you missed a step when you built your kernel

1) make menuconfig

to set up the kernel and create .config

2) make

to build the kernel

3) make modules_install

to install the modules. This creates the directory
/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r3 for this kernel. I think you did not do
this step or the directory would be there.

4) mount boot;cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/XXX; vi grub.conf/etc.

There is one other possibilitiy. Please do 

ls -al /usr/src

If you linux link is set incorrectly I don't know what happens in this case.

This problem should be very easy to figure out and fix.

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] modprobe error

2005-04-26 Thread Nick Rout
at what point do you get the error?

are you running the modules initscript? if you have no modules it might
give you problems.


On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:15:54 +0200
Paul Kain wrote:

 I did yes
 
 but I have no mudles specified in my modules.autoload and I didnt
 spoecify a single module in my kernal
 
 I am still getting this error
 

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[gentoo-user] gentoo.org.il

2005-04-26 Thread amit sides
We are some people from israel opened lately Gentoo.org.il which is the 
Israeli community for gentoo in israel.
all the il people here are welcome to join the site.
We have Hebrew forums,wiki,mailing list,news and much more. come visit
http://www.gentoo.org.il

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[gentoo-user] NETDEV WATCHDOG messages

2005-04-26 Thread Robert S
I recently switched my gentoo box on and was unable to access the
network.  I was unable to fix the problem until I rebooted.  I
discovered the following in my /var/log/messages.  What does it mean?

Apr 26 22:29:29 basement NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
Apr 26 22:29:29 basement eth0: Transmit timeout, status 0d  c07f media 10.
Apr 26 22:29:29 basement eth0: Tx queue start entry 4  dirty entry 0.
Apr 26 22:29:29 basement eth0:  Tx descriptor 0 is 0008003c. (queue head)
Apr 26 22:29:29 basement eth0:  Tx descriptor 1 is 0008003c.
Apr 26 22:29:29 basement eth0:  Tx descriptor 2 is 0008003c.
Apr 26 22:29:29 basement eth0:  Tx descriptor 3 is 0008003c.
Apr 26 22:29:29 basement eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1
Apr 26 22:29:41 basement NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out

My gentoo machine is an unattended server and I am concerned that this
might happen at an inpooprtune time.  I have recently upgraded to
gentoo-sources-2.6.11-gentoo-r6.  The relevant output of lspci (if
this is of any help) is:

:01:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)

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Re: [gentoo-user] modprobe error

2005-04-26 Thread Paul Kain
Mark 

You are king

I cant remember NOT running  make modules_install

but it seemed to do the job

thanks a million gazillion

:)



On 4/26/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 4/26/05, Paul Kain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  #1) Does it exist?
 
  slocate modules.dep
 
  gentoo root # slocate modules.dep
  /usr/share/man/man5/modules.dep/5/gz
 
  #2) Can you create it?
 
  gentoo root # depmod -a slocate modules.dep
  WARNING: couldn't open directory /lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r3: no
  such file or directory
  FATAL: could not open  /lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r3/modules.dep.temp
  for writing: No such file or directory
 
  I uess thats bad huh ?
 
 Very bad, but my command was inaccurate according to this email.
 Please try once more:
 
 depmod -a
 
 and then do
 
 ls /lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r3. slocate wouldn't have worked unless
 you did another updatedb. ls will always work
 
 One more command you should post back is just
 
 ls -la /lib/modules
 
 I think that you missed a step when you built your kernel
 
 1) make menuconfig
 
 to set up the kernel and create .config
 
 2) make
 
 to build the kernel
 
 3) make modules_install
 
 to install the modules. This creates the directory
 /lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r3 for this kernel. I think you did not do
 this step or the directory would be there.
 
 4) mount boot;cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/XXX; vi grub.conf/etc.
 
 There is one other possibilitiy. Please do
 
 ls -al /usr/src
 
 If you linux link is set incorrectly I don't know what happens in this case.
 
 This problem should be very easy to figure out and fix.
 
 Cheers,
 Mark
 
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FW: [gentoo-user] Kmail will not star KDInit Error

2005-04-26 Thread Richard Watson

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ qpkg -fp libpcreposix.so.0
dev-libs/libpcre

It looks like you need to (re)emerge libpcre

emerge -1av dev-libs/libpcre

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[gentoo-user] Re: Recommendation for online contact manager?

2005-04-26 Thread James
Travis Osterman tosterman at gmail.com writes:

 
  Maybe one of the groupware packages like egroupware or phpgroupware?
  
  *  www-apps/egroupware
  *  www-apps/moregroupware [ Masked ]
  *  www-apps/phpgroupware [ Masked ]
 
 Thanks for the recommendations.  Phpgroupware looks very close to what
 I was hoping for.  The only thing it didn't have the ability to do is
 create custom fields for users.  I'll keep searching.
 


Some of the recent issues (last 8 months) of the Linux Journal have presented
such applications that might fit your requirements.

I didn't make a mental note of the apps, sorry
www.linuxjournal.com  complete with search engine

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Re: [gentoo-user] modprobe error

2005-04-26 Thread Mark Knecht
You are very welcome Paul.

Good luck in the future!

cheers,
Mark

On 4/26/05, Paul Kain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark
 
 You are king
 
 I cant remember NOT running  make modules_install
 
 but it seemed to do the job
 
 thanks a million gazillion
 
 :)
 
 
 On 4/26/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 4/26/05, Paul Kain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   #1) Does it exist?
  
   slocate modules.dep
  
   gentoo root # slocate modules.dep
   /usr/share/man/man5/modules.dep/5/gz
  
   #2) Can you create it?
  
   gentoo root # depmod -a slocate modules.dep
   WARNING: couldn't open directory /lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r3: no
   such file or directory
   FATAL: could not open  /lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r3/modules.dep.temp
   for writing: No such file or directory
  
   I uess thats bad huh ?
 
  Very bad, but my command was inaccurate according to this email.
  Please try once more:
 
  depmod -a
 
  and then do
 
  ls /lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r3. slocate wouldn't have worked unless
  you did another updatedb. ls will always work
 
  One more command you should post back is just
 
  ls -la /lib/modules
 
  I think that you missed a step when you built your kernel
 
  1) make menuconfig
 
  to set up the kernel and create .config
 
  2) make
 
  to build the kernel
 
  3) make modules_install
 
  to install the modules. This creates the directory
  /lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r3 for this kernel. I think you did not do
  this step or the directory would be there.
 
  4) mount boot;cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/XXX; vi grub.conf/etc.
 
  There is one other possibilitiy. Please do
 
  ls -al /usr/src
 
  If you linux link is set incorrectly I don't know what happens in this case.
 
  This problem should be very easy to figure out and fix.
 
  Cheers,
  Mark
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Help with partitioning

2005-04-26 Thread William Kenworthy
On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 18:29 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 the more partitions, the more wasted space.
 
 For example /var 2gb /vat is mostly enough, but sometimes, you need 4,6,8 GB, 
 but 6/8GB /var is just overkill.
 
Depends, compiling openoffice will dump 3-4Gbytes on top of whats
already there.  Then the op wants to use keepalive ... The main reason
my gateway goes down is I log to a mysql database, which occaisionally
fills up /var (4G, currently 2G available, I add extra when doing OO
etc)  My desktop has 48G /var for working with dvd's etc - usually
adequate!


 /home should always be on its own partition, this way, you can reinstall 
 everything without risking your user-data, or share /home between installs.
 
Yes, this one of the best ones to give its own partition on multiuser
systems.

 Some time back, I used /boot /swap /home /tmp /var /opt, /usr/local, all on 
 different partitions of different disks.
 But for a single-user system like mine, I ended with a lot of 85% full 
 partitions and a lot of wasted gb.
 Now I have /root /home /boot /swap and / is big enough, that nothing should 
 fill it up ...

Same here - though generally I dont isolate /home either - just one big
partition: its the ones with complicated partition layouts that have the
wasted space, and admin workload to manage and the highest failure rate
of partitions filling up - but its a case of YMMV as on a gateway or
server thats adequately resourced, the extra waste and complexity can be
justified.  A single partition is easier and simpler to manage on single
user/laptop type systems

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[gentoo-user] What can I safely delete from /tmp?

2005-04-26 Thread Richard Watson
I'm starting to get low on disk space and was wondering what I can safely
delete from the /tmp directory. How about everything? 

Thanks, Richard


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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-headers-2.6.* masked by: profile

2005-04-26 Thread Robert Persson
On April 26, 2005 03:20 am, quoth Edward Catmur:

 Switch profile to /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0 or
 similar.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What can I safely delete from /tmp?

2005-04-26 Thread Jason Cooper
Richard Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 I'm starting to get low on disk space and was wondering what I can safely
 delete from the /tmp directory. How about everything? 

You should check to see that nothing has a file open first.  'lsof' is
good for this, however, if /tmp is a separate partition, you can just
try to umount it.  If it unmounts, then remount and delete everything.
Otherwise, just use 'lsof | grep tmp'.  

hth,

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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-headers-2.6.* masked by: profile

2005-04-26 Thread Nick Rout
as root

cd /etc
rm make.profile
ln -s ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0 make.profile


On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:03:36 -0700
Robert Persson wrote:

 On April 26, 2005 03:20 am, quoth Edward Catmur:
 
  Switch profile to /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0 or
  similar.
 
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[gentoo-user] Questions about rebuilding glibc

2005-04-26 Thread Walter Dnes
  I'm slowly puttering along re-installing Gentoo on my second machine.
Having used Gentoo for a few months, I have some personal preferences
about how I want to do it.  One of them is as few locales as possible
This machine is not going to be kiosk machine in the UN headquarters.

  This apparently requires re-compiling glibc, which I intend to do
right after the install.  Since it's such a basic component of
everything, are there any boobytraps with rebuilding glibc, or is it
simply a matter of...

emerge --ask -deep --newuse --update --world

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to login with slogin?

2005-04-26 Thread askar ...
On 4/27/05, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do you have sshd running on the router or on a box inside the network?
Yes, I have sshd running on the router.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about rebuilding glibc

2005-04-26 Thread Nick Rout

On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:25:51 -0400
Walter Dnes wrote:

   I'm slowly puttering along re-installing Gentoo on my second machine.
 Having used Gentoo for a few months, I have some personal preferences
 about how I want to do it.  One of them is as few locales as possible
 This machine is not going to be kiosk machine in the UN headquarters.
 
   This apparently requires re-compiling glibc, which I intend to do
 right after the install.  Since it's such a basic component of
 everything, are there any boobytraps with rebuilding glibc, or is it
 simply a matter of...
 
 emerge --ask -deep --newuse --update --world

why --newuse? are you changing your USE flags?

If you are not changing glibc versions I don't think you will need to
rebuild anything, other than glibc itself.

I assume you are aware of /etc/locales.build

 
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[gentoo-user] Is there a way to find every package with a USE flag

2005-04-26 Thread Nick Rout
The subject says it all, is there a way other than 

grep USEFLAG /usr/portage/* -r

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a way to find every package with a USE flag

2005-04-26 Thread Mark Knecht
Nick,
   I may be wrong but this seems to return too much stuff for the flag
'aac' - a flag I have concerns about.

Thanks,
Mark

On 4/26/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The subject says it all, is there a way other than
 
 grep USEFLAG /usr/portage/* -r
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a way to find every package with a USE flag

2005-04-26 Thread Ow Mun Heng

On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 20:31 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 Nick,
I may be wrong but this seems to return too much stuff for the flag
 'aac' - a flag I have concerns about.



U can try using ufed.

or etcat uses packagename
or euse (When it did work)

 Thanks,
 Mark
 
 On 4/26/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  grep USEFLAG /usr/portage/* -r
  
  ??
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Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a way to find every package with a USE flag

2005-04-26 Thread Willie Wong
On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 08:31:57PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 Nick,
I may be wrong but this seems to return too much stuff for the flag
 'aac' - a flag I have concerns about.
 
 Thanks,
 Mark
 
 On 4/26/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The subject says it all, is there a way other than
  
  grep USEFLAG /usr/portage/* -r
  

[12:02 AM]wwong ~ $ equery --help hasuse
List all packages with a particular USE flag
Syntax:
  list local-opts useflag
local-opts is either of: 
  -i, --installed - search installed packages (default)
  -I, --exclude-installed - do not search installed packages
  -p, --portage-tree  - also search in portage tree (/home/portage)
  -o, --overlay-tree  - also search in overlay tree ()

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a way to find every package with a USE flag

2005-04-26 Thread W.Kenworthy
why are you concerned?


bunyip root # euse -i aac
global use flags (searching: aac)

[+ C  ] aac - Enables support for MPEG-4 AAC Audio

local use flags (searching: aac)

no matching entries found
bunyip root #


to fix euse:
vi `which euse`
:157
s/grep/egrep/
:wq


BillK



On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 12:01 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 20:31 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
  Nick,
 I may be wrong but this seems to return too much stuff for the flag
  'aac' - a flag I have concerns about.
 
 
 
 U can try using ufed.
 
 or etcat uses packagename
 or euse (When it did work)
 
  Thanks,
  Mark
  
  On 4/26/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   The subject says it all, is there a way other than
   
   grep USEFLAG /usr/portage/* -r
   
   ??
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Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a way to find every package with a USE flag

2005-04-26 Thread Nick Rout

On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:31:57 -0700
Mark Knecht wrote:

 Nick,
I may be wrong but this seems to return too much stuff for the flag
 'aac' - a flag I have concerns about.

well it was pretty rough and ready, because:

1. it will return stuff out of the metadata directory and other weird
places

2. it will return every ebuild file with the word USEFLAG in it, rather
than the packagename.

3.  it will search a whole lot of binary files on packages/ and
distfiles/

 
 Thanks,
 Mark
 
 On 4/26/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The subject says it all, is there a way other than
  
  grep USEFLAG /usr/portage/* -r

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a way to find every package with a USE flag

2005-04-26 Thread steven pan
emerge -Npv package_name

is it right?

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[gentoo-user] Finally! But a few issues...

2005-04-26 Thread Colin
Finally!  I have a working install of Linux 2.6.11-gentoo-r6 on a
Pentium II machine that I plan to  use as a portable media center. 
(Think of it as an iPod on steroids.)

But I've got a few issues, as the subject line says.  Linux newbie
here, though I have done many unsuccessful Gentoo installations
before, so my feet are wet.


1.)  I've got Reiser3.6 on my / partition (/dev/hda3, /mnt/gentoo). 
I've also got Reiser3.6 on my /home partition (/dev/hda4,
/mnt/gentoo/home), but I'd like to try Reiser4 out.  I hear that in
almost all cases, it's an extremely fast and safe file system.  True,
it's a working beta version, but my /home partition is disposable (any
files I put there will be copied over from another computer, anyway,
so I've always got a live backup) so I think I'll jump in.

I found the Reiser4 emerge guide on the Gentoo forums, but that didn't
work for me.  Is there any way to emerge Reiser4 support into my
kernel?


2.)  This will be an embedded system, so how can I speed up the boot
process (after the BIOS hands control to GRUB)?

I've compiled a lot of stuff as modules so I can load and unload them
whenever necessary, so that cuts down on boot time.  Things I've
noticed that take forever are Calculating module dependencies...,
mounting Reiser3.6 partitions and DHCP detection (which I want).


3.)  What's the Linux equivalent of DOS/Windows' autoexec.bat
(something to run commands on startup, namely setterm -blank 0)?


4.)  My USB key and/or a media card reader are sometimes plugged into
this computer, but not always.  It's a hassle manually mounting them
every time I want to use it.  Can I mount them in /etc/fstab even
though it won't always be present at boot-time?  Here's what I've got,
commented out for now:
 /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbdrive vfat noatime 0 0
 /dev/sdb1 /mnt/cards/cf-mdautonoatime 0 0
 /dev/sdb2 /mnt/cards/sd-mmcauto noatime 0 0
 /dev/sdb3 /mnt/cards/sm-xd   auto noatime 0 0
 /dev/sdb4 /mnt/cards/ms-mspro auto noatime 0 0


5.)  And as far as my USB key is concerned, FAT32 is slow and
unjournaled.  It sucks.  ReiserFS is the greatest thing since NTFS as
far as I'm concerned, and I'd like to use that on my USB key, since
it's speedy, journaled and space-efficient.

Are there Windows/Mac OS 9/Mac OS X plugins for ReiserFS?  I'd like to
put a small FAT partition on my key with just the plugins and a Reiser
partition spanning the rest for my data.
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Re: [gentoo-user] linux-headers-2.6.* masked by: profile

2005-04-26 Thread Robert Persson
On April 26, 2005 03:20 am, quoth Edward Catmur:

 Switch profile to /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0 or
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Re: [gentoo-user] shutdown now hangs on Saving random seed...

2005-04-26 Thread Willie Wong
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 01:22:25AM -0400, Colin wrote:
 But it just hangs on this one:
 
 * Saving random seed...
 
 I can Ctrl-C my way out of it and continue to work in Gentoo, but a
 software shutdown isn't possible.  I just reboot, enter the BIOS and
 hold the switch.  What can I do about this little bug?  And is there
 even any purpose in loading and saving a random seed when random
 numbers are (AFAIK) seeded by the timer?

man urandom:

   The  random  number  generator  gathers environmental noise from device
   drivers and other sources into an entropy  pool.   The  generator  also
   keeps  an  estimate of the number of bits of noise in the entropy pool.
   From this entropy pool random numbers are created.

...

   When a Linux system starts up without much  operator  interaction,  the
   entropy  pool  may  be in a fairly predictable state.  This reduces the
   actual amount of noise in the entropy  pool  below  the  estimate.   In
   order  to counteract this effect, it helps to carry entropy pool infor-
   mation across shut-downs and start-ups. 


I guess you can remove urandom from boot runlevel
 # rc-update del urandom 
or, you can try to troubleshoot the problem (=

The shutdown section of /etc/init.d/urandom is pretty much one line on 
my system:

dd if=/dev/urandom of=/var/run/random-seed count=1  /dev/null

You can try seeing what's wrong with that...

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