[gentoo-ppc-user] OT: thermal management diff 2.4 vs. 2.6
Hi list, since i dont't know where else to ask this question i figured i might as well ask it here. i'm running gentoo on my tibook 550 (powerbook3,3 that is in kernelspeak) and noticed that with a 2.4 kernel as well as under macos the fan hardly ever kicks in, even when the computer gets quite hot while with the 2.6 kernel the fan wouldn't stop running. while this aproach is probably bying me some more lifetime for my computer, it is seriously annoying not to have at least an occasional moment of silence when sitting in front of the box. i already tried searching the kerneltree for suspicious expressions like fan.*control and such but so far without success (meaning i found only acpi-related stuff). can someone please give me a hint where else to look or even where else to ask this question? any help is appreciated! thanks in advance and best regards, alexander pgphsJlYyASOe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] OT: thermal management diff 2.4 vs. 2.6
At 19:27 +0200 on 2005-6-28 Colin Leroy wrote: As far as I know the fans are hardware controlled on these models, so the fans should not be affected by a kernel change... except that they do just that. Must be grmelins in there or something. echo 10 /sys/devices/temperatures/limit_adjust if you want the fans to kick in at 60°C instead of 50°C. These are Tibooks (as opposed to newer Alubooks) so they do not have software temperature control, no? Stefan -- If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass -- gentoo-ppc-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] OT: thermal management diff 2.4 vs. 2.6
At 21:03 +0200 on 2005-6-28 Colin Leroy wrote: These are Tibooks (as opposed to newer Alubooks) so they do not have software temperature control, no? mmh, I'm not sure right now. Try to load the therm_adt746x module. If it fails to load, you're right :) Oh, of course therm_adt746x won't load, sorry for not mentioning it. There is as far as I know no option in the kernel config for thermal management on these machines. I am clueless as to why is the fan behaving differently, it simply shouldn't. Stefan -- If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass -- gentoo-ppc-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] OT: thermal management diff 2.4 vs. 2.6
On Tue June 28 2005 16:34, Stefan Bruda wrote: Oh, of course therm_adt746x won't load, sorry for not mentioning it. There is as far as I know no option in the kernel config for thermal management on these machines. I am clueless as to why is the fan behaving differently, it simply shouldn't. I'm not an expert here, but could it be the kernel is not using some kind of CPU idling when it's not busy? Maybe the CPU is actually running hotter than it used to. Just an idea, may not be founded in fact. ;) -- // Carl Hudkins :: Jabber [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: PGP 50238D9E // // ==] What would Jeeves do? [== // //(X-Spam-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- gentoo-ppc-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] 2.6.12* hoses ati and bcm4400
Hi, I recently upgraded to 2.6.12, and on my recompile of all associated parts, ati-drivers had some trouble, and bcm4400 plain didn't compile! This process has worked almost flawlessly for me through many 2.6 kernels. With 2.6.12 I managed to get ati-drivers working, but on boot, when loading vesafb (tng) the kernel message shows the ati card string, and then hung about 50% of the time. With 2.6.12.1 it hung 100% of the time at this point. I got around the bcm4400 issue by using the kernel's b44 driver. I haven't use this in the past because I had some lockup issues with it, however, with 2.6.12 they seem to be gone, so I'm not so worried about it. I would be interested in hearing from any one else who had success / failure with the 2.6.12* kernel and ati drivers. Many thanks, -- Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] compile probs in general (tightvnc in particular)
James Ferguson wrote: i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5 * was already set as default. so I evn-update and source /etc/profile, still got the same error. am I right in assuming that i need to set my default profile to i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc ? gcc-config -l shows these options: [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5 * [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5-hardened [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5-hardenednopie [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5-hardenednossp how do i create one for i386 or more likely how do i get tightvnc to compile with this profile. Well if you don't have it, then this isn't the problem. Re-select profile 1, env-update, source /etc/profile and see if it works. If not, then it's something that I can't help you with. -- Colin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Portable Music Player
On Monday 27 June 2005 21:22, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: I'm looking to buy a portable music player, but I'm not sure what to get, so I'm polling for recommendations. Ogg/Vorbis support is a *requirement*, as is a Linux interface to the device. I'd prefer to be able to simply mount it as a USB device, but as long as I can add/remove/view the contents of the player from Linux it'll be fine. A GPL/BSD firmware and/or Linux interface is a plus. I'm not set on hard drive or flash based so feel free to recommend on either or both. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I´ve got a Creative Zen Touch 20GB. positive: over 20 hours of battery life in real world (24hrs. spec.), best Audio quality of all 20G players (According to reviews 98db, I´m not a musician but quality is excellent.) Cheapest 20G player available in europe. good build quality and a very good and simple UI. Works well with linux (look for libnjb (in portage), kzenexplorer (sourceforge) or gnomad2 (portage). negative: NO SUPPORT FOR OGG!!! Doesn´t come up as a USB harddrive. not even for data. even windows needs drivers and a little explorer plugin to handle it. Data Transfer under Linux is quite a bit slower than in Win, but still okay, Haven´t done any tests, just a feeling. A bit bulky: about the Size of a 4G Ipod, a little heavier and a little Thicker (prob. Battery) Hope that helps. Benny -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Portable Music Player
On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 03:22:34PM -0400, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: I'm looking to buy a portable music player, but I'm not sure what to get, so I'm polling for recommendations. Ogg/Vorbis support is a *requirement*, as is a Linux interface to the device. I'd prefer to be able to simply mount it as a USB device, but as long as I can add/remove/view the contents of the player from Linux it'll be fine. A GPL/BSD firmware and/or Linux interface is a plus. I'm not set on hard drive or flash based so feel free to recommend on either or both. I have an iAudio M3 from JetAudio. It plays Ogg fine, and mounts as a USB storage device. The firmware is not GPL afaik, but upgrades can be accomplished simply via a mount and a cp. It is 20G HDD. W -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Ferengi Rules of Acquisition 38. Anything not nailed down is mine. 37. Anything I can pry loose is not nailed down. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 7 days, 4:30 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] driver for 3Com 3c905 100BaseTX [Boomerang]????
You don't have a module because you did CONFIG_VORTEX=y instead of CONFIG_VORTEX=m. If you had built the driver as a module then modprobe 3c59x would work. Now I recompiled kernel with CONFIG_VORTEX=m. Rebooted tge system and did modprobe 3c59x. It gave me no errors. Thought it goes fine... /var/log/messages: ... Jun 27 13:01:35 server 3c59x: Donald Becker and others. www.scyld.com/network/vortex.html Jun 27 13:01:35 server :02:06.0: 3Com PCI 3c905 Boomerang 100baseTx at 0xc000. Vers LK1.1.19 Jun 27 13:01:35 server eth0: Dropping NETIF_F_SG since no checksum feature. Jun 27 13:01:35 server PPP generic driver version 2.4.2 Jun 27 13:01:35 server 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.27 Jun 27 13:01:35 server ACPI: PCI interrupt :02:07.0[A] - GSI 18 (level, low) - IRQ 18 Jun 27 13:01:35 server eth1: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xc400, 00:e0:7d:ff:6d:5c, IRQ 18 Jun 27 13:01:35 server eth1: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D' ... But it's strange - in my pc eth0 is Realtek, and eth1 is 3Com. I tried to start those interfaces with dhcp. Realtek obtained ip address, but 3Com did not.. askar What about dmesg | grep eth? Did that turn up anything? Zac Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] driver for 3Com 3c905 100BaseTX [Boomerang]????
On 6/28/05, askar ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't have a module because you did CONFIG_VORTEX=y instead of CONFIG_VORTEX=m. If you had built the driver as a module then modprobe 3c59x would work. Now I recompiled kernel with CONFIG_VORTEX=m. Rebooted tge system and did modprobe 3c59x. It gave me no errors. Thought it goes fine... /var/log/messages: ... Jun 27 13:01:35 server 3c59x: Donald Becker and others. www.scyld.com/network/vortex.html Jun 27 13:01:35 server :02:06.0: 3Com PCI 3c905 Boomerang 100baseTx at 0xc000. Vers LK1.1.19 Jun 27 13:01:35 server eth0: Dropping NETIF_F_SG since no checksum feature. Jun 27 13:01:35 server PPP generic driver version 2.4.2 Jun 27 13:01:35 server 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.27 Jun 27 13:01:35 server ACPI: PCI interrupt :02:07.0[A] - GSI 18 (level, low) - IRQ 18 Jun 27 13:01:35 server eth1: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xc400, 00:e0:7d:ff:6d:5c, IRQ 18 Jun 27 13:01:35 server eth1: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D' ... But it's strange - in my pc eth0 is Realtek, and eth1 is 3Com. I tried to start those interfaces with dhcp. Realtek obtained ip address, but 3Com did not.. I was wrong . The updated messages file is: Jun 28 06:25:08 server 3c59x: Donald Becker and others. www.scyld.com/network/vortex.html Jun 28 06:25:08 server :02:09.0: 3Com PCI 3c905 Boomerang 100baseTx at 0xc400. Vers LK1.1.19 Jun 28 06:25:08 server eth1: Dropping NETIF_F_SG since no checksum feature. Jun 28 06:25:08 server eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1 As you see eth1 doesn't work. But 3Com seems recognized. askar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] driver for 3Com 3c905 100BaseTX [Boomerang]????
I was wrong . The updated messages file is: Jun 28 06:25:08 server 3c59x: Donald Becker and others. www.scyld.com/network/vortex.html Jun 28 06:25:08 server :02:09.0: 3Com PCI 3c905 Boomerang 100baseTx at 0xc400. Vers LK1.1.19 Jun 28 06:25:08 server eth1: Dropping NETIF_F_SG since no checksum feature. Jun 28 06:25:08 server eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1 eth0 is Realtek nic, eth1 is 3Com, which does not work. askar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Windows XP - Gentoo - Lilo Loader Question
Hi Holly, thanks for your reply Basically my question here is why exactly did you install the bootloader to hdb instead of hda? I installed to hdb as I only have 1 NTFS partition on /dev/hda and don't want to muck around with my XP install as my family will kill me if I muck it up ... Do you want to keep the Windows bootloader for some reason? See above ... Anyway I figured out how to use XP boot.ini and dd if=/dev/hdb1 bs=512 count=1 of= /mnt/floppy/linux.bin to copy the lilo boot sector. I then copy this to c:\ on /dev/hda and make sure it is referenced in boot.ini. I've now got a different issue (I think) ... The XP loader activates lilo on /dev/hdb but it stalls. Basically starts to write LILO to screen but stalls at L freezes and goes no further. I've seen this before somewhere and thought it was disk related. So far I've tried to fix it by removing substituting lba32 / compact / linear from /etc/lilo.conf (yes I /sbin/lilo and recreate the linux.bin file for the XP bootloader). The drive is a 200MB Seagate. Anybody any ideas ...? Thanks (as usual), Richard -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.5/32 - Release Date: 27/06/2005 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Windows XP - Gentoo - Lilo Loader Question
Richard Watson wrote: So far I've tried to fix it by removing substituting lba32 / compact / linear from /etc/lilo.conf (yes I /sbin/lilo and recreate the linux.bin file for the XP bootloader). The drive is a 200MB Seagate. I'm not a LILO kinda guy, but a 200 MB drive was more than likely made before LBA was invented. In the BIOS, switch it over to CHS mode (usually Normal) and see if that does anything. -- Colin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.12* hoses ati and bcm4400
Iain Buchanan schreef: Hi, I recently upgraded to 2.6.12, and on my recompile of all associated parts, ati-drivers had some trouble, and bcm4400 plain didn't compile! This process has worked almost flawlessly for me through many 2.6 kernels. With 2.6.12 I managed to get ati-drivers working, but on boot, when loading vesafb (tng) the kernel message shows the ati card string, and then hung about 50% of the time. With 2.6.12.1 it hung 100% of the time at this point. snip I would be interested in hearing from any one else who had success / failure with the 2.6.12* kernel and ati drivers. Basically the drivers do not officially support 2.6.12, as it was not released at the time of the driver release, and ATI has a policy of only supporting stable/released kernels (not -rc kernels or the like). However, users are fighting madly to create patches, since if ATI does not provide a hotfix release or patch, we all have to wait some 6 weeks for an upgraded driver, or not upgrade our kernels until the next scheduled release (ati has a two-month release schedule, and these drivers were released on the 9th of June). You probably want to check out this thread at the Rage3d forums: No DRI with kernel 2.6.12 http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33819631 as well as ATI: 2.6.12-rc6 patch http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33819050 and from the unofficial Bugzilla [patch] kernel 2.6.12 support http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=136 I feel that there was also a thread -- somewhere -- collecting all the user-created patches to date, but I can't find it, sorry. In any case, hope this helps; I make no warranty for any of these solutions as I have not tried them myself-- I haven't even had the time to compile and upgrade gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r8 to 2.6.11-r11, much less try to get 2.6.12 working. It's looking like by the time I get around to upgrading my kernel, it will be time for a new release anyway, so I'll probably just wait to upgrade. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Where can I download the gentoo binary for Ximian Evolution 2?
On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 12:40 -0700, Hareesh Nagarajan wrote: On 6/27/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO, Nick wasn't talking to you, Hareesh. I thought he was! Follow the thread and you'll understand where it went wrong. Unfortunately Nick decided to top post and thus you have a harder time determining it :-) -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 18:27:22 up 5:14, 4 users, load average: 1.72, 1.66, 1.51 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] compile probs in general (tightvnc in particular)
Thanks for the response Colin, for now I'll just get around it by using vnc rather than tight vnc, and wait to see if this same error occurs again. On 6/28/05, Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Ferguson wrote: i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5 * was already set as default. so I evn-update and source /etc/profile, still got the same error. am I right in assuming that i need to set my default profile to i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc ? gcc-config -l shows these options: [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5 * [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5-hardened [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5-hardenednopie [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5-hardenednossp how do i create one for i386 or more likely how do i get tightvnc to compile with this profile. Well if you don't have it, then this isn't the problem. Re-select profile 1, env-update, source /etc/profile and see if it works. If not, then it's something that I can't help you with. -- Colin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Oh yeah, can you find your way, show me the way to come. Zugzwang got me in a way, under my opposing thumb. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] amd64 gcc with multilib
Hi, I need to build fvwm in 32 bit mode on an amd64 machine. The CFLAG -m32 seems to be ignored. What to do? Note: I have tried to compile fvwm manually (no portage, emerge) since I know that otherwise it may render my system, especially portage, unusable! Regards Marc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] driver for 3Com 3c905 100BaseTX [Boomerang]????
That 3Com Boomerang works under Win98. So I put it there. And the one 3Com Cyclone from Win98 pc works fine for gentoo. It works fine now. askar On 6/28/05, askar ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seemes it's a hardware problem. Going to change. askar On 6/28/05, askar ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wrong . The updated messages file is: Jun 28 06:25:08 server 3c59x: Donald Becker and others. www.scyld.com/network/vortex.html Jun 28 06:25:08 server :02:09.0: 3Com PCI 3c905 Boomerang 100baseTx at 0xc400. Vers LK1.1.19 Jun 28 06:25:08 server eth1: Dropping NETIF_F_SG since no checksum feature. Jun 28 06:25:08 server eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1 eth0 is Realtek nic, eth1 is 3Com, which does not work. askar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Other XMMS issue - crash, when I add ogg files to the playlist :: try beep-media-player
Hi, And how can I use the musepack plugin for example? :) It looks like the same :) I will check the official site of beep. Thanx, István Daevid Vincent wrote: You might consider beep-media-player, it's like xmms but better (and actively being developed). Uses xmms skins and plugins. Looks just like it. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] different times in postfix log
Jan Callewaert schreef: Hi, if I watch the logs of postfix, I have different times in it. Jun 18 19:17:43 [postfix/qmgr] 1E365EDCC3: from=bla, size=4398, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jun 18 21:17:44 [postfix/local] 1E365EDCC3: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], orig_to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=1, status=sent (delivered to command: procmail) Jun 18 19:17:44 [postfix/qmgr] 1E365EDCC3: removed Jun 18 21:17:48 [postfix/smtpd] disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1] this is at 21:18. Date displays the correct hour. Any idea what is causing this? Only [postfix/qmgr] is showing the wrong time, the rest is correct. Regards, Jan Callewaert A perhaps more important question is: Why am I receiving a second copy of this message 10 days after I originally received it (and it's dated 10 days ago, too)? Am I the only one who received this (again) today (about 2 minutes ago, 14:26 CET)? If there is some kind of weirdness with my ISP (which would likely be the case if I'm the only one who got this), I certainly want to know about it-- and if Jan has some kind of weirdness on his (?) servers, I guess he (?) would want to know about that, too. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] different times in postfix log
Holly Bostick wrote: Jan Callewaert schreef: Hi, if I watch the logs of postfix, I have different times in it. Jun 18 19:17:43 [postfix/qmgr] 1E365EDCC3: from=bla, size=4398, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jun 18 21:17:44 [postfix/local] 1E365EDCC3: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], orig_to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=1, status=sent (delivered to command: procmail) Jun 18 19:17:44 [postfix/qmgr] 1E365EDCC3: removed Jun 18 21:17:48 [postfix/smtpd] disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1] this is at 21:18. Date displays the correct hour. Any idea what is causing this? Only [postfix/qmgr] is showing the wrong time, the rest is correct. Regards, Jan Callewaert A perhaps more important question is: Why am I receiving a second copy of this message 10 days after I originally received it (and it's dated 10 days ago, too)? Am I the only one who received this (again) today (about 2 minutes ago, 14:26 CET)? If there is some kind of weirdness with my ISP (which would likely be the case if I'm the only one who got this), I certainly want to know about it-- and if Jan has some kind of weirdness on his (?) servers, I guess he (?) would want to know about that, too. I just recieved this message twice today too - again dated 10 days in the past. Is it possible the main got stuck in a queue somewhere and have just 'popped' out? :/ Holly -- Tim Igoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tim.igoe.me.uk - Personal Site http://tv.igoe.me.uk - UK TV Guide Computers are like Air-con, open windows and they stop working! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Would zapping USE in make.defaults hurt anything?
On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 11:18:43AM +0200, Holly Bostick wrote Perhaps so, but is building a minimal system the default behaviour that the profiles are targeted to? Apparently not. This default system is expected to likely meet the following criteria: [...snip big list...] Some people want this, some (overlapping but not superset group) want that, etc, etc. Trying to cover all the bases results in Windows-like bloat, and a system, with the average user not using a significant chunk of it (and for each user it's a *DIFFERENT* significant chunk). I've got this 1999 Dell Dimension, 450 mhz PIII, 128 megs of RAM, that refuses to die (they don't make them like that any more). The successor system, a P4 with exactly 4 times the ram and 4 times the speed, is currently my hot backup. KDE literally takes a whole minute to come up on the PIII. I can see the icons being drawn in slow motion. Gnome is just as bad. But running Blackbox, and using fbpanel, Firefox is quite snappy, as are AbiWord, and Gnumeric. xmms is my gui audio player. I read email (mutt) and usenet (slrn) in true console text mode. dosbox renders old DOS games slower than I remember them. I've actually had mplayer complain that my machine is too slow for internet TV, but it's almost fast enough. Of course, I'm running the PIII with... CFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer -mmmx -msse -mfpmath=sse A binary RPM distro with i586 (or i386!!!) binaries would be even worse. I think that linux will a significant opportunity when Longhorn comes out, and MS stops selling older Windows. There'll be a lot of desktops, and laptops, that simply won't run Longhorn. If nothing else, we'll be able to pick nice linux machines for really low prices. An even better scenario is a mass defection of (former) Windows users whose machines won't run Longhorn. If I was cynical, I'd wager that MS is deliberately delaying Longhorn, whilst PCs get faster and faster. In another year or two, there may be a significant population of PCs that will be able to run Longhorn. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Would zapping USE in make.defaults hurt anything?
On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 08:00:23PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote /etc/portage/profile/ site-specific overrides of /etc/make.profile/ So you want /etc/portage/use.mask. Thanks. That sounds like what I'm looking for. I've heard that USE=-* has broken some builds in the past but I'm not sure about the current state of things. I won't be running with all USE flags wiped. In /etc/portage/use.mask I'll USE=-*, and add the ones I want/need in /etc/make.conf and/or /etc/portage/package.use. OK, so maybe I am a bit of a control freak. When I say USE=a b c, that's what I want; no more and no less. Asking for a b c and getting a b c x y z is not my definition of being in control. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Connect to a remote server with a modem
Hi, I going to maintain a Gentoo server in another country, normal i'm going to connect with the internet, but if something is wrong i'm thinking to connect a modem to the machine. What do i need of software so i can connect with a another machine to this machine over a telephone line? The machine has no X installed. TIA Patrick -- This is Unix-Land. In quiet nights, you can hear the Windows machines reboot. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Would zapping USE in make.defaults hurt anything?
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:47:41 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: I won't be running with all USE flags wiped. In /etc/portage/use.mask I'll USE=-*, and add the ones I want/need in /etc/make.conf and/or /etc/portage/package.use. OK, so maybe I am a bit of a control freak. When I say USE=a b c, that's what I want; no more and no less. Asking for a b c and getting a b c x y z is not my definition of being in control. Then put USE=-* a b c in make.conf. Coincidentally, I had a number of packages show up on an emerge -uavDN world the other day, because kde had been removed from the default USE flags in the amd64 profile. -- Neil Bothwick To be intoxicated is to feel sophisticated but not be able to say it. pgpfNPjHhe0O4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo not yet quite right on iMac
Charles Trois wrote: Another fishy thing is that changing the default runlevel in /etc/inittab has no effect: I put it to 3 and the system booted at level 5 all the same. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-ppc64.xml?part=2chap=4 or in French http://www.gentoo.org/doc/fr/handbook/handbook-ppc64.xml?part=2chap=4 Craig -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Portable Music Player
On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 15:22 -0400, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: I'm looking to buy a portable music player, but I'm not sure what to get, so I'm polling for recommendations. Ogg/Vorbis support is a *requirement*, as is a Linux interface to the device. I'd prefer to be able to simply mount it as a USB device, but as long as I can add/remove/view the contents of the player from Linux it'll be fine. A GPL/BSD firmware and/or Linux interface is a plus. I'm not set on hard drive or flash based so feel free to recommend on either or both. I had a Rio Karma for quite a while. This was a great little player. It played ogg files, and it came with a base with RCA outputs. The base could be located at your home stereo, with an ethernet connection to your linux box. There's a java-based light client for it that works under Linux and connects via USB or ethernet. Only problem I had was that I really had to baby the device or I'd crash the hard drive. I roasted 2 drives, then ebay'd the 2nd replacement unit so I could buy a flash player. I now use an Apple iPod mini (unfortunately no ogg support) with gtkpod. But it'd be worth checking out some of the other (flash-based) offerings from Rio to see if they support ogg and the java manager interface. Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] konsole font
Hi. I've emerged kde-3.4.1 recently and I noticed that the font in Konsole is different. It no longer is so smooth and nice. I've tried to combine various combinations of fonts, sizes and it still isn't what it used to be. When I want to set font to Linux an error dialog appears that there's no such font or so. How do I set it back to normal. Thanks. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] can't ping myself when iptables running
I found out that when I run iptables rule below: [snip] ip address of the nic connected to the modem is not pinged. But I don't set any restriction for icmp??? Depends upon what your default policy is defined as. If the default policy is DENY then you must specifically include an ACCEPT rule for icmp traffic. Askar you can find many iptables help sites via a google search and I have at least one good book on iptables (sorry, forget the title, email me if you want it and I'll post it back to you). That said, I can't say enough about shorewall. I struggled with iptables trying to get everything just right, but when I switched to shorewall (which uses iptables behind the scenes) managing my iptables rules became so much simpler. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] How to get GNOME back?
I had to completely reinstall Gentoo the other day (partitioning problem). I got the base system up and emerged gnome. I've done this several times before, but this time when I run startx all I get is twm. DISPLAYMANAGER=gdm and XSESSION=Gnome in /etc/rc.conf . I'm out of ideas, but I want gnome back. Can anyone help me? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to get GNOME back?
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 04:47:35 -0500 (CDT), Michael Sullivan wrote: I had to completely reinstall Gentoo the other day (partitioning problem). I got the base system up and emerged gnome. I've done this several times before, but this time when I run startx all I get is twm. DISPLAYMANAGER=gdm and XSESSION=Gnome in /etc/rc.conf . I'm out of ideas, but I want gnome back. Can anyone help me? Don't use startx, use /etc/init.d/xdm start. -- Neil Bothwick Hot glass looks exactly the same as cold glass. pgpNlllEuRKmw.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] How to get GNOME back?
I had to completely reinstall Gentoo the other day (partitioning problem). I got the base system up and emerged gnome. I've done this several times before, but this time when I run startx all I get is twm. DISPLAYMANAGER=gdm and XSESSION=Gnome in /etc/rc.conf . I'm out of ideas, but I want gnome back. Can anyone help me? Startx uses ~/.xinitrc for starting X. You need to change your local copy to start gnome rather than twm. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] kde path is missing
Hi, I was recompiling kde today, but now the path isn't set anymore. If I run env-update, the bin directory of kde isn't added to the path (of course after executing source /etc/profile). My kde-env looks like this: # cat /etc/env.d/99kde-env KDEDIRS=/usr CONFIG_PROTECT=/usr/share/config KDE_MALLOC=1 #KDE_IS_PRELINKED=1 which is like you'd expect from the ebuild kde-env. I find it strange that there is no PATH variable in it for kde. I can manually add ROOTPATH=/usr/kde/3.4/bin to the env file, and then /etc/profile.env gets updated, and also the path. But I wonder what's the correct way to do this is, since I'll have to update it each time I install a new kde. Regards, Jan -- If it ain't broken, you just haven't looked hard enough. Fix it anyway. -- Tom Peters pgpeurQQ40q86.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] different times in postfix log
Op dinsdag 28 juni 2005 14:52, schreef Tim Igoe: Holly Bostick wrote: Tim Igoe schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: Jan Callewaert schreef: Hi, if I watch the logs of postfix, I have different times in it. snip double-received message Regards, Jan Callewaert A perhaps more important question is: Why am I receiving a second copy of this message 10 days after I originally received it (and it's dated 10 days ago, too)? Am I the only one who received this (again) today (about 2 minutes ago, 14:26 CET)? If there is some kind of weirdness with my ISP (which would likely be the case if I'm the only one who got this), I certainly want to know about it-- and if Jan has some kind of weirdness on his (?) servers, I guess he (?) would want to know about that, too. I just recieved this message twice today too - again dated 10 days in the past. Is it possible the main got stuck in a queue somewhere and have just 'popped' out? :/ I would think that that's exactly what happened-- the question I was wondering about is: whose queue? The mail delivery queue of my ISP has now been eliminated (since you got it too), leaving Jan's send queue, or the list server's queue I think. The puzzling bit is to look at the times in the email header - they are all correct for if the message was delivered immediately but not. (even on my server which i know has the right time). Very odd. Holly I never had this problem. I relay my mail through postfix to the smtp server of my university, but since they like to play sometimes with it, it's possible that problem is there. The thing is, should I regard this as a problem of them, or is there something misconfigured on my system? Jan -- If it ain't broken, you just haven't looked hard enough. Fix it anyway. -- Tom Peters pgpazlfEr0bIt.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Koha on Gentoo
Does anybody have any experience with Koha running on Gentoo? I'm trying to get it to work but I'm getting hopeless. The problem might be in setting virtual host on Apache but I think I have everything configured correctly. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to get GNOME back?
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 11:08:40AM -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote: I had to completely reinstall Gentoo the other day (partitioning problem). I got the base system up and emerged gnome. I've done this several times before, but this time when I run startx all I get is twm. DISPLAYMANAGER=gdm and XSESSION=Gnome in /etc/rc.conf . I'm out of ideas, but I want gnome back. Can anyone help me? Startx uses ~/.xinitrc for starting X. You need to change your local copy to start gnome rather than twm. I'm still using the root account. /root/.xinitrc says exec gnome-session, but still startx gives me twm... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to get GNOME back?
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 04:00:10PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 04:47:35 -0500 (CDT), Michael Sullivan wrote: I had to completely reinstall Gentoo the other day (partitioning problem). I got the base system up and emerged gnome. I've done this several times before, but this time when I run startx all I get is twm. DISPLAYMANAGER=gdm and XSESSION=Gnome in /etc/rc.conf . I'm out of ideas, but I want gnome back. Can anyone help me? Don't use startx, use /etc/init.d/xdm start. -- Neil Bothwick Hot glass looks exactly the same as cold glass. I did /etc/init.d/xdm start and still got twm. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kde path is missing
Jan Callewaert wrote: Hi, I was recompiling kde today, but now the path isn't set anymore. If I run env-update, the bin directory of kde isn't added to the path (of course after executing source /etc/profile). My kde-env looks like this: # cat /etc/env.d/99kde-env KDEDIRS=/usr CONFIG_PROTECT=/usr/share/config KDE_MALLOC=1 #KDE_IS_PRELINKED=1 which is like you'd expect from the ebuild kde-env. I find it strange that there is no PATH variable in it for kde. I can manually add ROOTPATH=/usr/kde/3.4/bin to the env file, and then /etc/profile.env gets updated, and also the path. But I wonder what's the correct way to do this is, since I'll have to update it each time I install a new kde. Regards, Jan Wow man... that's true. It happens to me too. Maybe we can change it to /usr/kde/3.4, right? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kde path is missing
Op dinsdag 28 juni 2005 17:10, schreef Jan Callewaert: Hi, I was recompiling kde today, but now the path isn't set anymore. If I run env-update, the bin directory of kde isn't added to the path (of course after executing source /etc/profile). My kde-env looks like this: # cat /etc/env.d/99kde-env KDEDIRS=/usr CONFIG_PROTECT=/usr/share/config KDE_MALLOC=1 #KDE_IS_PRELINKED=1 which is like you'd expect from the ebuild kde-env. I find it strange that there is no PATH variable in it for kde. I can manually add ROOTPATH=/usr/kde/3.4/bin to the env file, and then /etc/profile.env gets updated, and also the path. But I wonder what's the correct way to do this is, since I'll have to update it each time I install a new kde. Regards, Jan and for a regular user to work, I have to set PATH also off course. Jan -- If it ain't broken, you just haven't looked hard enough. Fix it anyway. -- Tom Peters pgpUGloFiOHdQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] kde path is missing
Op dinsdag 28 juni 2005 17:42, schreef Rafael Fernández López: Jan Callewaert wrote: Hi, I was recompiling kde today, but now the path isn't set anymore. If I run env-update, the bin directory of kde isn't added to the path (of course after executing source /etc/profile). My kde-env looks like this: # cat /etc/env.d/99kde-env KDEDIRS=/usr CONFIG_PROTECT=/usr/share/config KDE_MALLOC=1 #KDE_IS_PRELINKED=1 which is like you'd expect from the ebuild kde-env. I find it strange that there is no PATH variable in it for kde. I can manually add ROOTPATH=/usr/kde/3.4/bin to the env file, and then /etc/profile.env gets updated, and also the path. But I wonder what's the correct way to do this is, since I'll have to update it each time I install a new kde. Regards, Jan Wow man... that's true. It happens to me too. Maybe we can change it to /usr/kde/3.4, right? No, it should point directly to the bin directory. Otherwise the binaries are not found. -- If it ain't broken, you just haven't looked hard enough. Fix it anyway. -- Tom Peters pgp90A9iQIu44.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Motherboard for Dual-Core CPU - Linux firendly
Looking for Linux friendly motherboard where everything will work from sound to graphics for Dual-Core CPU (AMD 4400) Any recommendations? Most-motherboard will do but there is always something that will not work, especially sound chips. When ask for a driver they point you to a linux org web-page where there is no driver. -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Connect to a remote server with a modem
Hi, 2005/6/28, Patrick Marquetecken [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I going to maintain a Gentoo server in another country, normal i'm going to connect with the internet, but if something is wrong i'm thinking to connect a modem to the machine. What do i need of software so i can connect with a another machine to this machine over a telephone line? The machine has no X installed. If you install mgetty on the remote machine and configure it to listen for incoming calls you can connect with any terminal program like minicom. Robert. TIA Patrick -- This is Unix-Land. In quiet nights, you can hear the Windows machines reboot. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] raw1394
On 6/28/05, luis jure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello list, trying to use kino to grab video from a digital camera, i realized that there's no /dev/raw1394 device. searching the web, all sources i found say that udev does not manage ieee1394 devices, and that you must create the nodes manually with something like this: mkdir /dev/video1394 mknod -m 666 /dev/video1394/0 c 171 16 mknod -m 666 /dev/raw1394 c 171 0 i'd like to confirm if this is actually so, and which would be the best way to create these nodes with a script at boot time. (i mean, the best gentoo way) I've talked to some of the 1394 developers as well as posting something along these lines in Gentoo's Bugzilla. The most appropriate thing to do for this problem, if you want a udev solution, is to wait for 2.6.12, presuming this won't cause other problems for you like it may for me. (ati, ati, ati...) If you wanted a possible solution now then you might also try using the commands above (I've not checked them but they look about right.) and also use the tarball option in conf.d/rc. Good luck, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Motherboard for Dual-Core CPU - Linux firendly
Joseph wrote: Looking for Linux friendly motherboard where everything will work from sound to graphics for Dual-Core CPU (AMD 4400) Any recommendations? I'd stick with Intel, they make pretty good Dual-Boards. The new Intel HD-Audio onboard soundcard, and the widely used Marvell/Yukon Gb-LAN adapters are supported in linux-2.6.12. SATA-controllers also just work. You'll have to use P4 or Xeon CPU's of course... Christoph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to get GNOME back?
On Tuesday 28 June 2005 12:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 11:08:40AM -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote: I had to completely reinstall Gentoo the other day (partitioning problem). I got the base system up and emerged gnome. I've done this several times before, but this time when I run startx all I get is twm. DISPLAYMANAGER=gdm and XSESSION=Gnome in /etc/rc.conf . I'm out of ideas, but I want gnome back. Can anyone help me? Startx uses ~/.xinitrc for starting X. You need to change your local copy to start gnome rather than twm. I'm still using the root account. /root/.xinitrc says exec gnome-session, but still startx gives me twm... is your PATH correct? Maybe you changed something/or something was changed and gnome-session is not in $PATH anymore? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Apache2, mod_php 4.3.11 PEAR doesn't work anymore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi, since the last update from apache and mod_php-4.3.11, my pear doesn't work anymore :-( i tested nearly everything, i found on forums.gentoo.org and bugs.gentoo.org, but the most are for php5. mod_php says, --without-pear and later it checks for a pear installation, nothing found etc. i really need pear for horde and some other applications. Configuration: == PEAR executables directory bin_dir /usr/bin PEAR documentation directory doc_dir /usr/lib/php/ PHP extension directoryext_dir /usr/lib/php/extensions/no-debug-non-zts-20020429 PEAR directory php_dir /usr/lib/php/ PEAR Installer cache directory cache_dir /tmp/pear/cache PEAR data directorydata_dir/usr/lib/php/ PHP CLI/CGI binary php_bin /usr/bin/php PEAR test directorytest_dir/usr/lib/php/ Cache TimeToLive cache_ttl 3600 Preferred Package Statepreferred_state stable Unix file mask umask 22 Debug Log Levelverbose 1 HTTP Proxy Server Address http_proxy not set PEAR servermaster_server pear.php.net PEAR password (for passwordnot set maintainers) Signature Handling Program sig_bin /usr/bin/gpg Signature Key Directorysig_keydir /etc/pearkeys Signature Key Id sig_keyid not set Package Signature Type sig_typegpg PEAR username (for usernamenot set maintainers) the strange thing is, that php itselfs, find pear (--with-pear). what can i do? cu denny -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCwaMzKlzhkqt9P+ARAkCSAJ9j6ycCz0cOs7u1652k7b4sRDsj/ACghm1y EN1p3y2XxUtrz7XMijiLXIQ= =ZSSe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] (A bit OT) Gentoo on a Dell OptiPlex G1
There is a problem with the power supply on Dell. At some point, they reversed the polarity, making it proprietary. If you put a non-Dell motherboard on one of those machines without changing out the powersupply, you'll fry it. The details are available at http://hardwareguys.com . Bill Roberts On 15:16 Tue 28 Jun , Peng wrote: On 6/28/05, Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peng wrote: On 6/28/05, Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A. Khattri wrote: On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, Colin wrote: CPU: Undecided, some flavor of Pentium III RAM: 256 MB Storage: 700 MB IDE (/boot, something else) Storage: 18.2 GB Ultra160 SCSI (on a Series 428 MegaRAID) OS: Windows NT Server... kidding! Gentoo! If you go to the Dell support web site and punch in the service tag or serial number (on the back, probably on the PSU) you can get complete technical specs on that machine. Yeah, I know, but the only original parts are the case, riser card and power supply. :-) The motherboard? I didn't know you could do that much to a Dell.. Don't get your hopes up. It's a replacement. The voltage regulator on the old one failed, so it would spontaneously reboot. But I imagine motherboards from similar Dell desktops of that era would also fit in that case. -- Colin Oh, so it's just a more or less identical replacement from Dell? Which parts are just replacements and which are actually different? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list pgpYQAwIWj7l9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] raw1394
luis jure wrote: searching the web, all sources i found say that udev does not manage ieee1394 devices, and that you must create the nodes manually with something like this: I suggest you upgrade to Linux 2.6.12. It will then be created and managed automatically. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] can't ping myself when iptables running
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005, Dave Nebinger wrote: Depends upon what your default policy is defined as. If the default policy is DENY then you must specifically include an ACCEPT rule for icmp traffic. You need some rules like this before the end of the INPUT ruleset: ACCEPT icmp -- 0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0 icmp type 0 ACCEPT icmp -- 0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0 icmp type 8 ACCEPT icmp -- 0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0 icmp type 11 -- Aj. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] raw1394
On 6/28/05, Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: luis jure wrote: searching the web, all sources i found say that udev does not manage ieee1394 devices, and that you must create the nodes manually with something like this: I suggest you upgrade to Linux 2.6.12. It will then be created and managed automatically. Daniel Daniel, What sort of ATI support do we get inder 2.6.12 at this time? I've noticed other threads talking about acceleration problems, or possibly no TV out, etc. Both of these matter to me. Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] driver for 3Com 3c905 100BaseTX [Boomerang]????
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005, askar ... wrote: Thanks, but modprobe 3c59x gave me errror: FATAL: Module 3c59x not found. In kernel there is no option for 3c59x I am using this driver so I know it works... -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] driver for 3Com 3c905 100BaseTX [Boomerang]????
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005, askar ... wrote: In kernel there is no option for 3c59x There is - in menuconfig: Device Drivers - Networking support - Ethernet (10 or 100Mbit) - 3COM cards - 3c590/3c900 series (592/595/597) Vortex/Boomerang support -- Aj. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] konsole font
050628 q-parser wrote: I've emerged kde-3.4.1 recently the font in Konsole is different. How do I set it back to normal ? First try the Konsole 'settings' menu - 'font' - 'custom', then try selecting 'Fixed (gnu) regular 13'. That might help. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Broken sudo
On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, Sean Higgins wrote: Did you run etc-update, or dispatch-conf, to merge configuration file changes? I ran into the same error on several systems, but once I fixed up the configuration files changes, everything was fine. Yeah but the point is, if you haven't changed /etc/pam.d/sudo then a normal update shouldn't break it. I had the same problem - I figured the updated file would be OK since Ive never edited that file. Maybe this has been fixed in the ebuild now because the update looked different on another server a few days later. -- Aj. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] raw1394
Mark Knecht wrote: Daniel, What sort of ATI support do we get inder 2.6.12 at this time? I've noticed other threads talking about acceleration problems, or possibly no TV out, etc. Both of these matter to me. I have no idea. Try it and find out :) Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
On Sun, 26 Jun 2005, maxim wexler wrote: So there must be a problem w/ the Asus K8N-E(Sempron box) BIOS. I updated it using the tool that came w/ the support CD but it only made matters worse: Did you download the latest BIOS from Asus's site and use that? I imagine any CD included with a motherboard is old before it hits the shelves... -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
On Sun, 26 Jun 2005, maxim wexler wrote: Now, the Asus brd does have raid capability. Would that be a way out of this morass? Its probably software RAID - you're better off using Linux's own software RAID. How does raid work? http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] blog software recommendation for gentoo?
I like snipsnap. You configure it from itself and running it is just ( cd /opt/snipsnap ./run.sh ) On 6/22/05, Bill Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, Dmitri Vassilenko wrote: On Friday June 17 2005 22:08, A. Khattri wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2005, Dmitri Vassilenko wrote: [Blosxom](http://www.blosxom.com/) deals with plain text files. If you want a simple blogging engine, this is it. :) True but isn't it CGI-based? Yes, it is. It's a single .cgi file IIRC. It CAN be cgi-based, it can also be used to output static files. I use it both ways, dynamic to proof things and static to publish. Bill Carlson -- Systems Administrator[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Anything is possible, Virtual Hospital http://www.vh.org/ | given time and money. University of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics | Opinions are mine, not my employer's. | -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.12 (was raw1394)
el Tue, 28 Jun 2005 20:58:27 +0100 Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: luis jure wrote: searching the web, all sources i found say that udev does not manage ieee1394 devices, and that you must create the nodes manually with something like this: I suggest you upgrade to Linux 2.6.12. It will then be created and managed automatically. thanks neil, mark and daniel for your comments, the different alternatives are much more clear to me now. re kernel 2.6.12, what's its current status? visiting www.kernel.org i found 2.6.12 (17-Jun-2005) and 2.6.12.1 (22-Jun-2005). i really don't get this 4 numbers thing in 2.6... best, lj -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kde path is missing
Jan Callewaert wrote: Op dinsdag 28 juni 2005 17:42, schreef Rafael Fernández López: Jan Callewaert wrote: Hi, I was recompiling kde today, but now the path isn't set anymore. If I run env-update, the bin directory of kde isn't added to the path (of course after executing source /etc/profile). My kde-env looks like this: # cat /etc/env.d/99kde-env KDEDIRS=/usr CONFIG_PROTECT=/usr/share/config KDE_MALLOC=1 #KDE_IS_PRELINKED=1 which is like you'd expect from the ebuild kde-env. I find it strange that there is no PATH variable in it for kde. I can manually add ROOTPATH=/usr/kde/3.4/bin to the env file, and then /etc/profile.env gets updated, and also the path. But I wonder what's the correct way to do this is, since I'll have to update it each time I install a new kde. Regards, Jan Wow man... that's true. It happens to me too. Maybe we can change it to /usr/kde/3.4, right? No, it should point directly to the bin directory. Otherwise the binaries are not found. Do you guys have USE=-arts by any chance? $ equery belongs /etc/env.d/46kdepaths-3.4 kde-base/arts-3.4.1-r2 $ cat /etc/env.d/46kdepaths-3.4 PATH=/usr/kde/3.4/bin ROOTPATH=/usr/kde/3.4/sbin:/usr/kde/3.4/bin LDPATH=/usr/kde/3.4/lib CONFIG_PROTECT=/usr/kde/3.4/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/env /usr/kde/3.4/shutdown Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Would zapping USE in make.defaults hurt anything?
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005, Walter Dnes wrote: In another year or two, there may be a significant population of PCs that will be able to run Longhorn. And then they'll have to change the name to Longtooth. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Copy portage tree
I have one computer that currently does not have internet access. Can I copy a freshly sync'ed portage tree (/usr/portage/*) from another computer to this one? Or does the tree have some sort of per-computer dependencies (use-flags, etc.)? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.12 (was raw1394)
luis jure wrote: thanks neil, mark and daniel for your comments, the different alternatives are much more clear to me now. re kernel 2.6.12, what's its current status? visiting www.kernel.org i found 2.6.12 (17-Jun-2005) and 2.6.12.1 (22-Jun-2005). i really don't get this 4 numbers thing in 2.6... 2.6.12 is the 'main' release. A week later, two security issues come up. 2.6.12.1 is released with fixes for these issues *only* (i.e. very little difference from 2.6.12.2). Whereas 2.6.12 is made by Linus Torbalds, the followup 2.6.12.1 and 2.6.12.2 releases are made by seperate people who call it the linux-stable branch. This branch only includes critical bug fixes and security fixes. If you use gentoo-sources we automatically keep up with the linux-stable branch. For 2.6.12 you'll have to go into the testing (~arch) branch of portage though (I'm using the word branch in a totally different context here), read the Gentoo handbook if you are unsure. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.12 (was raw1394)
On Tuesday 28 June 2005 22:25, luis jure wrote: re kernel 2.6.12, what's its current status? visiting www.kernel.org i found 2.6.12 (17-Jun-2005) and 2.6.12.1 (22-Jun-2005). i really don't get this 4 numbers thing in 2.6... X.Y.Z are Linus's releases, and unstable, somewhat akin to the old odd numbered Y series. X.Y.Z.z are the stable releases, and should only contain bug and security fixes on top of Linus's release. -- Mike Williams pgpRMsmA25ZkN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Copy portage tree
On Tuesday 28 June 2005 22:49, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: I have one computer that currently does not have internet access. Can I copy a freshly sync'ed portage tree (/usr/portage/*) from another computer to this one? Or does the tree have some sort of per-computer dependencies (use-flags, etc.)? Copy away, tree is always the same. You should run 'emerge metadata' after copying, to update/create the cache. -- Mike Williams pgpSPw16MlOHZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Copy portage tree
Anthony E. Caudel wrote: I have one computer that currently does not have internet access. Can I copy a freshly sync'ed portage tree (/usr/portage/*) from another computer to this one? Or does the tree have some sort of per-computer dependencies (use-flags, etc.)? Tony Just copy it (exclude distfiles and packages). All the site specific stuff goes in /etc and /var. I've found squashfs useful for this purpose. mksquashfs /usr/portage /tmp/portage.squash -e distfiles packages mount -o loop -t squashfs /tmp/portage.squash /usr/portage Actually, if you choose to use squashfs, you probably want to use alternative values for DISTDIR and PKGDIR since /usr/portage will be read-only. Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Motherboard for Dual-Core CPU - Linux firendly
On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 17:32 -0400, A. Khattri wrote: On Tue, 28 Jun 2005, Joseph wrote: Looking for Linux friendly motherboard where everything will work from sound to graphics for Dual-Core CPU (AMD 4400) Any recommendations? Most-motherboard will do but there is always something that will not work, especially sound chips. When ask for a driver they point you to a linux org web-page where there is no driver. Given that dual-core is still relatively new, aren't you asking for trouble using a dual-core board??? I mean, either you go for the bleeding edge and expect some issues or you use something tried and tested no? I know, I would rather wait another year, but I need another machine within two months. So if I buy single core unit now I don't expect to replace it for another 2-3years. -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] compile probs in general (tightvnc in particular)
James Ferguson wrote: gcc-config error: Could not run/locate i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc make[2]: *** [vncauth.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/tightvnc-1.3_alpha5/work/vnc_unixsrc/libvncauth' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/tightvnc-1.3_alpha5/work/vnc_unixsrc' make: *** [World] Error 2 If anyone could suggest a cause for this i would be greatfull, as a lot of other software i have been trying to install has been failing to compile and im starting to think it could all be related. Generally, this is caused by changing your CHOST [That's when it happened to me.], but I suppose it could just been some portage/ebuild oddity. IIRC, this can be corrected with an emerge -e system. As a workaround, when you find a package that gives this error, go into the portage work directory and sed -e 's/i386-/i686-/g' all the auto* generated files (particularly the Makefile) [Heck, you might be able to safely do this to ALL the files.], then move through the ebuild manually (see 'man ebuild'). This should cause the system to look for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc, which you should have. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OpenOffice2.0 Install
Hey Everyone, I really want the OO.org 2.0 beta, but its not in portage, and the only source on their site is RPM's (that I can find, at least). How can I go about getting this version of OO? I dont want complete bleeding edge, I want something from about a month ago, that is quite stable. Any ideas? Thanks a lot!! Ian PS Please dont try and convince me to go with 1.1.4, I really want 2. begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [gentoo-user] No Sound!!!
There's some problems with it in the kernel, you should use the alsadriver emerged instead, I believe all you need is compile the modules for it. The only way I could get it to work was strip it from the kernel and compile it as modules, along with alsadriver. Good luck, On 6/29/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm still working to get my recently reinstalled Gentoo system up to its former glory. I cannot get my sound to work though. I'm following (or rather trying to) the Gentoo Alsa Guide (http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml) . It says to run lspci to find out what sound card I'm using: baby ~ # lspci -v | grep -i audio :00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 04) I looked at the Alsa Matrix and the only entry it has for Ensoniq is ens1371 (which, according to my backups is what I was using before and it worked fine then). I'm using a genkernel, 2.6 kernel, so I assume that ALSA is compiled into it already. However, when I run alsaconf it finds no cards whatsoever. This all worked before I reinstalled Gentoo and although I have a complete backup of my /etc directory before the reinstall I hesitate to use it (bad experiences in the past) and prefer to use it instead as a guide. What am I doing wrong? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Disk Backup From One Machine To Another
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 02:39 +, Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales wrote: First of all, thanks for all who replied. It is the end of semester here, and I didn't have time (until now) to read all the posts. I have to admit, I made a newbie mistake when posting this message. I forgot to mention that I have Apache with SSL running. Thus, what I decided to do, was to create tar.bz2 files of backups, link them to an Apache directory, and download them from the machine that would receive the backup files. I feel this way I have to install no new software, gets the job done and let Apache take care of security. I do, however, intend to test rdiff-backup later. ;) Well.. there is more than one way to skin the cat eh. I still think you should take a look at rsync. -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 12:08:17 up 22:55, 6 users, load average: 2.40, 2.27, 2.25 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] xdirectfb on 2005 - no binary after compilation - any tips to get xdirectfb working
Hi, I have a Matrox G550 dual head graphics card and I want to have DirectFB running on one head for VDR output http://www.cadsoft.de/vdr/ using softdevice, and the other head running XDirectFB so I have a local graphical desktop. The latest ebuild for xdirectfb is broken the compile runs but produces no binary - seems to be related to some broken macros - see bug report below http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76167 Anyone have any tips on getting XdirectFB working on gentoo 2005? I have DriectFB and VDR all working now - just need XDirectFB to be working and its all done. Thanks a lot. Anthony. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice2.0 Install
Ian K wrote: Hey Everyone, I really want the OO.org 2.0 beta, but its not in portage, and the only source on their site is RPM's (that I can find, at least). How can I go about getting this version of OO? I dont want complete bleeding edge, I want something from about a month ago, that is quite stable. Any ideas? Thanks a lot!! Ian PS Please dont try and convince me to go with 1.1.4, I really want 2. http://packages.gentoo.org/packages/?category=app-office;name=openoffice-bin The latest beta is in the portage tree but it's keyword masked. echo app-office/openoffice-bin ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords emerge openoffice-bin Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No Sound!!!
On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 21:04 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote:
Did you remember to add ALSA_CARDS=ens1371 to your /etc/make.conf and
emerge alsa-driver? (You'll need to make sure that your /usr/src/linux
symlink is correct.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/make.conf
# These settings were set by the catalyst build script that
automatically built this stage
# Please consult /etc/make.conf.example for a more detailed example
CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
MAKEOPTS=-j4
USE=candy apache2 oss apm alsa arts avi berkdb bitmap-fonts cdr crypt
cups doc encode
fortran f77 foomaticdb gdbm gif gpm gnome gstreamer gtk gtk2 imlib jpeg
kde libg++
libwww mad mbox mikmod motif mpeg ncurses nls oggvorbis opengl pam
pdflib png ppds
python qt quicktime readline samba sasl sdl threads nntp spell ssl svga
tcltk tcpd
truetype usb X xml xml2 xmms xv zlib x86 imap offensive java mysql
examples mmx
mmx2 perl divx4linux real
GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo;
ALSA_CARDS=ens1371
(copied over to /etc from backup made last Sunday when everything was
working)
As for alsa-driver, the Gentoo ALSA Guide said that if I use genkernel
(which I do) I shouldn't emerge alsa-driver because they don't get
along. I guess I'll try it though...
--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No Sound!!!
On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 21:04 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote: Did you remember to add ALSA_CARDS=ens1371 to your /etc/make.conf and emerge alsa-driver? (You'll need to make sure that your /usr/src/linux symlink is correct.) I attempted (several times) to emerge alsa-driver. The ouput is consistent: baby ~ # emerge alsa-driver Calculating dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 1) media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.8 to / md5 files ;-) alsa-driver-1.0.9b.ebuild md5 files ;-) alsa-driver-1.0.9_rc3.ebuild md5 files ;-) alsa-driver-1.0.9a.ebuild md5 files ;-) alsa-driver-1.0.8.ebuild md5 files ;-) alsa-driver-1.0.3.ebuild md5 files ;-) ChangeLog md5 files ;-) metadata.xml md5 files ;-) files/xbox-1.0.8.patch md5 files ;-) files/digest-alsa-driver-1.0.9a md5 files ;-) files/digest-alsa-driver-1.0.9b md5 files ;-) files/makefile.patch md5 files ;-) files/digest-alsa-driver-1.0.9_rc3 md5 files ;-) files/digest-alsa-driver-1.0.3 md5 files ;-) files/digest-alsa-driver-1.0.8 md5 files ;-) files/alsa-driver-0.9.8-au-fix.patch md5 files ;-) files/1.0.8-msi_audigyls.patch md5 src_uri ;-) alsa-driver-1.0.8.tar.bz2 * Determining the location of the kernel source code * Found kernel source directory: * /usr/src/linux * Found sources for kernel version: * 2.6.11-gentoo-r11 * getfilevar requires 2 variables, with the second a valid file. *getfilevar VARIABLE CONFIGFILE * Could not find a usable .config in the kernel source directory. * Please ensure that /usr/src/linux points to a configured set of Linux sources. * If you are using KBUILD_OUTPUT, please set the environment var so that * it points to the necessary object directory so that it might find .config. !!! ERROR: media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.8 failed. !!! Function linux-info_pkg_setup, Line 509, Exitcode 1 !!! Unable to calculate Linux Kernel version !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. My kernel symlink is correct: baby src # ls -l total 16 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root23 Jun 26 17:20 linux - linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r11 drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 4096 Jun 28 19:43 linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r11 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10005 Jun 28 19:42 linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r11.config.gz -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice2.0 Install [solved! thx!]
Rumen Yotov wrote: Ian K wrote: Hey Everyone, I really want the OO.org 2.0 beta, but its not in portage, and the only source on their site is RPM's (that I can find, at least). How can I go about getting this version of OO? I dont want complete bleeding edge, I want something from about a month ago, that is quite stable. Any ideas? Thanks a lot!! Ian PS Please dont try and convince me to go with 1.1.4, I really want 2. Hi, openoffice-bin-1.9.109 is in portage only being in testing (~x86). To emerge it do: #echo app-office/openoffice-bin ~x86 /etc/portage/package.keywords. Then 'emerge openoffice-bin -av' to emerge it. Haven't checked if it's in rpm-format. HTH. Rumen Thanks guys!!! begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice2.0 Install [not solved :( ]
Zac Medico wrote: Ian K wrote: Hey Everyone, I really want the OO.org 2.0 beta, but its not in portage, and the only source on their site is RPM's (that I can find, at least). How can I go about getting this version of OO? I dont want complete bleeding edge, I want something from about a month ago, that is quite stable. Any ideas? Thanks a lot!! Ian PS Please dont try and convince me to go with 1.1.4, I really want 2. http://packages.gentoo.org/packages/?category=app-office;name=openoffice-bin The latest beta is in the portage tree but it's keyword masked. echo app-office/openoffice-bin ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords emerge openoffice-bin Zac Im getting a problem though.. After I enter in your command, I did an emerge search to get the size of the download, but it says the latest version is still 1.1.4, and I just did an emerge sync a few hours ago... Any ideas? Thanks begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
[gentoo-user] Configuring Engage
Hi there, Two things: 1. Is there another GNOME suitable parabolic zooming dock, like kxdocker but for gnome? If you can only think of Engage, please move to question 2. 2. :) How do you configure the thing? It gives me this on running: am a system tray :) :) engage: icon.c:182: od_icon_reload: Assertion 'path' failed. Aborted # Please note that on its first run, before giving me that error, it told me to create a few directories in my home area. I did, but no improvements. Thanks! Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
