[gentoo-user] Gone fishing

2005-08-03 Thread Ted Ozolins
Taking time away from anything technical.  Hopefully I won't even have
as much as a light switch to look at, let alone use: )

Cheers : )

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[gentoo-user] Differences: halt, shutdown, init 0?

2005-08-03 Thread Minn M Soe
Hello,

Is it harmless if we shut down with the command init 0? Are there big
differences between halt, shutdown -r now and init 0?

Thanks!
Minn

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Re: [gentoo-user] Its not fair! (PCMCIA issue)

2005-08-03 Thread Scott Storck

Ian K schrieb:


When I pop in a standard 3com 589cs card, the computer beeps, and
beeps again when I take it out. That looked promising. I then put in
his WAN card, a new Linksys Wireless B Adapter. (WPC11 version 4,
which uses a Realtek chipset.) I heard nothing when putting it in,
but heard a beep upon removing it. I checked the dmesg, and got
a Nobody cared message (IRQ 9, I believe) and a:
cs: unable to apply power.

 


As far as I know, this means that the card is not compatible with the slot.
For example type 3 card in type 2 slot or 5 volt card in a 3.3 volt slot.
Many older WLAN cards are 5 volt and some newer slots are only 3.3 volt.

-Scott

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Site-specific proxy

2005-08-03 Thread Willie Wong
nevermind that. 

Figured out eventually that Automatically configure proxy via the PAC
files is what I wanted. 

W

On Wed, Aug 03, 2005 at 12:42:16AM -0400, Willie Wong wrote:
 Hi all, 
   I am wondering if it is possible to make it such that when accessing
   certain webpages, the connections goes through a proxy, and when
   accessing others, the connections goes out directly to the internet. 
 
   In particular, since I am a graduate student living off campus, if I
   need to use certain web services (for example, the Oxford English
   Dictionary Online, American Mathematics Society's MathSciNet, access
   to various scientific Journals), I have to go through the
   university's proxy server, as I don't have a personal license to use
   those services. The university proxy requires a login. 
 
   I don't want to pass all connections through the proxy if I can help
   it, since it slows the connections down noticeably. So I am
   wondering if there's a way to implement it such that connection
   requests to certain websites will be sent through the university
   proxy server while the remainder of the connections are unaffected. 
 
   Can this be done with some sort of squid-magic? Is there a way of
   doing it transparently?
 
 Thanks, 
 
 Willie
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge www-client/mozilla-1.7.10-r1 (kernel bug?)

2005-08-03 Thread Zac Medico

Jules Colding wrote:

On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 18:14 +0200, Richard Fish wrote:


Jules Colding wrote:



I tried the aforementioned script just to see if that picked up
anything. Lo and behold... it segfaulted in mkdir. I am beginning to
suspect a subtle reiserfs (mounted with noatime and notail) bug as I am
only seeing segfaults with mkdir and only under high load. There was
something in /var/log/messages as well. Script, output, log and info
below.





Um, what version of reiserfs are we talking about here?  



Whatever is in gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r6. dmesg tells me that it is
format 3.6.



I recall 
reading recently on lkml (or maybe it was somewhere else..) reports that 
reiser4 has known and serious problems on non-x86 platforms, and maybe 
that extends to AMD64 as well



Yes, reiser4 is not quite stable yet.


If you are using the stable reiser3.6 (the only option available in the 
gentoo-sources or vanilla-sources), well, I would be very surprised if 
this was a bug there, because noatime and notail are very common options 
and it is a very popular filesystem.  I would put my money on bad ram or 
memory timings in this case.



I would expect other things to fail too if it was bad RAM or memory
timings, right? The only failure scenario is mkdir under high load which
to me points towards s specific problem area in the code. This is just
an unqualified guess, naturally...



Can you reproduce the problem if you boot from a livecd?  That could help 
settle the question of whether your problems are rooted in hardware or software.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge www-client/mozilla-1.7.10-r1 (kernel bug?)

2005-08-03 Thread Jules Colding
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 00:57 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
 Jules Colding wrote:
  On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 18:14 +0200, Richard Fish wrote:
  
 Jules Colding wrote:

  I would expect other things to fail too if it was bad RAM or memory
  timings, right? The only failure scenario is mkdir under high load which
  to me points towards s specific problem area in the code. This is just
  an unqualified guess, naturally...
  
 
 Can you reproduce the problem if you boot from a livecd?  That could
 help settle the question of whether your problems are rooted in
 hardware or software.

Would it? I must access the disk and use the RAM, so wouldn't the
results be identical provided that the same kernel is used?

If not, do you have any particular livecd in mind?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird and IMAP

2005-08-03 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Ralph Slooten wrote:


-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hiya,

Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:
 


Hi everyone,

  I recently migrated from Evolution to Mozilla Thunderbird and I must
say that I has been a really good move ;-). However, I have a couple of
problems to fix before finishing the migration; firstly, I can browse
the main folder in an IMAP server, but I can't browse subfolders,
   



Right-click on the account and select Subscribe. I'm not sure about
evolution, but thunderbird allows you to subscribe to folders like they
were newsgroups. I'm not sure which imap software you are using, so I
just presume courier-imap ;-)


 


although I could with Evolution (and still can). On the other hand, I've
got loads of contacts in Evolution that I'd like to transfer to
Thunderbird without copying all them by hand.
   



In the addressbook go to tools - import. There are several formats to
import from. Again, I'm not sure of evolution, but I do presume it can
export entries in certain standard formats (ldif, tab delimited, comma
separated). Export them from evolution in one of those formats, and
import them into thunderbird.
 



OK, the IMAP problem is totally solved, I didn't know Thunderbird needed 
you to specify which folders you'd like it to read... I haven't solved 
the address book problem yet because Evolution doesn't seem to have a 
way to export all the contacts, so I'll try recompiling both Evolution 
and Thunderbird with ldap enabled...


Thanks a lot,
Abraham
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Re: [gentoo-user] Trouble compiling gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r4

2005-08-03 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 22:49 -0400, Michael Crute wrote:
 Sounds like the sources could be corrupted did you try to unemerge and
 reemerge them?
 
 -Mike

emerge check gentoo-sources was useful. indeed something had junked most
of one directory in the kernel.  heaven knows how. I thought this sort
of thing only happened on windows.

I removed /usr/src/linux and re-emerged, it then compiled cleanly.

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[gentoo-user] logrotate

2005-08-03 Thread Uwe Thiem
Hi folks,

from /etc/logrotate.conf:

-
# no packages own lastlog or wtmp -- we'll rotate them here
/var/log/wtmp {
monthly
create 0664 root utmp
rotate 1
}
-

It states it rotates lastlog (/var/log/lastlog) but it doesn't and my lastlog 
grows forever. Doesn't seem right. Anybody else seeing the same or have I 
messed up?

I mean I can easily edit /etc/logrotate.conf but I think it should do that by 
default.

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Re: [gentoo-user] logrotate

2005-08-03 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 03 August 2005 12:54, Uwe Thiem wrote:

 Hi folks,

 from /etc/logrotate.conf:

 -
 # no packages own lastlog or wtmp -- we'll rotate them here
 /var/log/wtmp {
 monthly
 create 0664 root utmp
 rotate 1
 }
 -

 It states it rotates lastlog (/var/log/lastlog) but it doesn't and my
 lastlog grows forever. Doesn't seem right. Anybody else seeing the
 same or have I messed up?

Probably missing something (I don't use logrotate), but seems to me that 
the above fragment only deals with /var/log/wtmp. To 
have /var/log/lastlog rotated, add another section for it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] DELTUP servers

2005-08-03 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
I have thought we are in open source world here. Have I missed
something? :-)

=== On Wednesday 03 August 2005 05:04, Alexey Starinsky wrote: ===
Hello, Andrew.

Вы писали 30 июля 2005 г., 21:41:14:

Andrew Gaydenko It seems like 
Andrew Gaydenko DELTUP_SERVER=http://linux01.gwdg.de/~nlissne/deltup.php;
Andrew Gaydenko is under reconstruction (standard
Andrew Gaydenko apache page is shown). Are there
Andrew Gaydenko other DELTUP servers?
No.

Author does not wish to share server-side code sources yet motivating that as
security precautions.

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[gentoo-user] Required ebuild masked by ~amd64

2005-08-03 Thread Jules Colding
Hi,

Just a heads-up. Updating worlds today is not working due to required
ebuilds being masked on amd64.

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 snip #
omc-2 ~ # emerge -vauDN world

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies |
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =gnome-extra/gnome-utils-2.10.1 have been 
masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- gnome-extra/gnome-utils-2.10.1-r1 (masked by: ~amd64 keyword)

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or
section 2.2 Software Availability in the Gentoo Handbook.
!!!(dependency required by gnome-base/gnome-2.10.1 [ebuild])


!!! Problem with ebuild gnome-base/gnome-2.10.1
!!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem.

!!! Depgraph creation failed.

 emerge --info ##
omc-2 ~ # emerge --info
Portage 2.0.51.22-r2 (default-linux/amd64/2005.0, gcc-3.4.3, glibc-2.3.5-r0, 
2.6.12-gentoo-r6 x86_64)
=
System uname: 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 x86_64 AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 252
Gentoo Base System version 1.6.13
dev-lang/python: 2.3.5
sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.11
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.59-r6
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.5
sys-devel/binutils:  2.15.92.0.2-r10
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.18-r1
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.11-r2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64
AUTOCLEAN=yes
CBUILD=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-march=k8 -O2 -pipe
CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3/share/config 
/usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/lib64/mozilla/defaults/pref /usr/share/config 
/usr/share/texmf/dvipdfm/config/ /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/ 
/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/config/ /usr/share/texmf/tex/platex/config/ 
/usr/share/texmf/xdvi/ /var/qmail/control
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d
CXXFLAGS=-march=k8 -O2 -pipe
DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles
FEATURES=autoconfig distlocks sandbox sfperms strict
GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo/ 
http://mirrors.sec.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/gentoo/ 
http://pandemonium.tiscali.de/pub/gentoo/ 
ftp://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/os/linux/gentoo http://mirror.gentoo.no/ 
http://gentoo.prz.rzeszow.pl http://ftp.du.se/pub/os/gentoo 
ftp://mirror.pudas.net/gentoo;
MAKEOPTS=-j1
PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
PORTDIR=/usr/portage
SYNC=rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
USE=amd64 X aac aalib alsa avi berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2 cdr crypt cups curl 
dvd dvdr dvdread eds emacs encode esd fam fbcon foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif 
gnome gstreamer gtk gtk2 hal iconv imlib ipv6 jpeg ldap libwww lzw lzw-tiff mad 
mozilla mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nptl nptlonly nvidia ogg opengl oss pam pdflib 
perl png python quicktime readline sdl spell ssl symlink tcltk tcpd tetex 
theora tiff truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode usb userlocales vorbis xine xml2 
xmms xpm xv xvid zlib userland_GNU kernel_linux elibc_glibc
Unset:  ASFLAGS, CTARGET, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY



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Re: [gentoo-user] Dell PowerEdge 800 CERC SATA RAID Controller

2005-08-03 Thread Peter De Zutter
Hi,

not on PE800 but on PE1300 with scsi disks and no raid controller, 
the hardest thing to do was getting that poweredge boot off a livecd.
It didn't boot with the livecd untill I connected an old ide drive. 
With that old drive the livecd boot was ok, then checked output of
dmesg, and I could use the scsi drives also. And the tape drive even
works, after change a scsi bios setting :)
I also found that the dell forums had quite a bit info about scsi and raid controllers and how to used them with linux.
Peter
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Re: [gentoo-user] Required ebuild masked by ~amd64

2005-08-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 13:29:36 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:

 Just a heads-up. Updating worlds today is not working due to required
 ebuilds being masked on amd64.

Try syncing again. This can be caused by one package being marked
stable slightly ahead of its dependencies.


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Re: [gentoo-user] logrotate

2005-08-03 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 03 August 2005 12:11, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
 On Wednesday 03 August 2005 12:54, Uwe Thiem wrote:
  Hi folks,
 
  from /etc/logrotate.conf:
 
  -
  # no packages own lastlog or wtmp -- we'll rotate them here
  /var/log/wtmp {
  monthly
  create 0664 root utmp
  rotate 1
  }
  -
 
  It states it rotates lastlog (/var/log/lastlog) but it doesn't and my
  lastlog grows forever. Doesn't seem right. Anybody else seeing the
  same or have I messed up?

 Probably missing something (I don't use logrotate), but seems to me that
 the above fragment only deals with /var/log/wtmp. To
 have /var/log/lastlog rotated, add another section for it.

Are you sure you aren't using it? Have you looked into /etc/cron.daily?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Testing how secure a server is...

2005-08-03 Thread Eric S. Johansson

Colin wrote:


On Aug 2, 2005, at 7:50 PM, Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales wrote:


Hi there,

   I was wondering what tools should I use to detect security flaws to
my server and a few tips on how to use them. What are the most common
forms of attack and how do I avoid being attacked by one of them?

   The services avaliable are only Apache - SSL and SSH. I've
installed an firewall, iptables and firestarter to control it, and
blocked all ports except 443 and 8080, where the SSH is listening.
Apache has PHP installed as a module.



Want to know how secure your server is?  Try and hack it!


a better place to start would be a simple inventory of what you are 
running, its version, configuration and what you want to run.  If 
there's a delta, justify or fix.  no need to do any sort of Port 
scanning or penetration testing 80% of the time.


a simple inventory most of your security questions right off the bat. 
Of course it's not as sexy or ego inflating as running penetration tools 
but it gives you one thing the others don't.  And audit trail. 
Something you can show to your lawyers and insurance people that you 
practiced due diligence in knowing your system vulnerabilities.


if you are running Apache however you do need to run some form of attack 
because it is trivially easy to write an Apache configuration which 
leaves you butt naked to the world and not know it until you've been had.


there are similarly complex services (i.e. Samba) that leave you easily 
vulnerable.


so my advice would be to use more secure and easily secured alternatives 
whenever possible.


A good port scanner like nmap should be a basic check of your  
firewall.  I would also set nmap (if it can do this) to perform a SYN  
flood as it scans, to see if your server can withstand that basic DoS  
attack.  (Adding --syn to your TCP rules in iptables can prevent SYN  
flooding when used with SYN cookies.)  When you break in, find out  why 
it worked and how it can be patched.


Some things I would advise (I'm currently working on a server at the  
moment as well):
 - If the server is really important (or if you're paranoid), use  the 
hardened-sources with PIE/SSP to prevent badly-written programs  from 
arbitrarily executing code.


you should run this no matter what.  There is no excuse to leaving 
yourself vulnerable to these kinds of attacks if there is a method of 
catching them.  Security is not just a single layer.  It's multiple 
layers of good coding, language used, and operating system provided 
barriers.  Since developers insist on using languages like C, C++ 
providing features behind most security problems, you really need 
PIE/SSP in place for when the inevitable mistake happens.


 - Enable SYN flood protection.  There's a kernel option somewhere  
about IPv4 SYN cookies, enable that, and couple it with --syn  attached 
to your TCP rules in iptables.  It's a very popular denial- of-service 
attack.


again, never run without it.  That way you don't need to do any testing 
because the problem is handled.


 - Whenever you need to login or authenticate yourself, make the  system 
delay five seconds after a bad password is entered.  This will  make a 
brute-force attack much much slower (0.2 passwords/sec as  opposed to 
millions passwords/sec without a delay, depending on your  server's speed).


again should be built-in to system services.  Why do it yourself and 
risk error?


 - Make sure iptables is set to deny all traffic that isn't  explicitly 
allowed.


apparently good statement but let's look at the implications.

if the services aren't on and there is nothing listening on the port, 
this isn't really necessary.  if the services are on but not needed, see 
recommendation above about turning them off.


if services are needed on one interface but not the other, bind to the 
right interface.  It would make sense to use a deny rule in case 
something goes wrong.


if you are providing services to the net at large, deny rules are not 
practical.


If you're providing services to a limited number of people on the net at 
large, you need to worry more about authentication and communications 
confidentiality.


If you are providing services internally, may be practical in some 
cases, but more likely to bite you in the butt when things change on the 
internal network.


that's all the cases I can think of, any others?

 - Read through your logs every now and then.  I highly advise  having 
the server burn them to a CD/floppy every now and then for an  instant 
backup.  Get a log reader/parser, too.


very good advice.  I personally like the idea of storing logs on another 
machine.  But a log reader/parser to bring out the highlights.  Also be 
prepared to spend hours every day verifying each log quirk.  Whenever 
possible, try to eliminate noise from the logs so you can pull out the 
real information necessary to detect problems.




Naturally, hide the server in the attic or basement.  Chain it to  

Re: [gentoo-user] logrotate

2005-08-03 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 03 August 2005 16:10, Uwe Thiem wrote:

 Are you sure you aren't using it? Have you looked into
 /etc/cron.daily?

Yes, I'm sure. 

# emerge -s logrotate

*  app-admin/logrotate
  Latest version available: 3.7.1-r1
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 31 kB
  Homepage:http://www.gentoo.org
  Description: Rotates, compresses, and mails system logs
  License: GPL-2

# ls /etc/cron.daily/
slocate  syslog.cron

where syslog.cron is _not_ part of logrotate, but is instead a script (I 
suppose it comes with sysklogd, but I'm not sure) whose purpose, as the 
name says, is to rotate syslog's files. 
Following the comments in it, I modified it to rotate all the files 
in /var/log (it's easy, here are the instructions:

# sysklogd  Cron script to rotate system log files daily.
#
#   If you want to rotate other logfiles daily, edit
#   this script.  An easy way is to add them manually
#   or to add -a to syslogd-listfiles and add some grep
#   stuff
#
#   Written by Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED].
)

This does the job for me, without the need to use the real logrotate 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Testing how secure a server is...

2005-08-03 Thread Eric S. Johansson

Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales wrote:

He claims that if someone invades my machine, it will have direct
access to all data. That I have to distribute the database, put it in
another machine and have the web application access that database over
the network. I feel this is a bit overkill. Not only it would force
the data travel through the network, slowing it down, but would also
increase the complexity of the security layout, forcing to make the
two machines very secure, unstead of just one of them. Besides, I
might be wrong, but I feel that a Local Socket is faster and safer
than Corba trasmitting data over the internal network.

If anybody has any comments, I'd be more than happy to hear it.


first, on the issue of distributing, yes, you will have a nominally more 
secure application.  This assumes of course that the attacker cannot 
take any part of your application and use it against you by accessing 
the database themselves.


the interesting paradox is that by moving your application to another 
machine and using a network between them for communicating data, the 
application usually runs faster.


Think carefully about the RPC mechanism.  Don't try to reinvent the 
wheel with your own socket connection because you will spend a lot of 
time getting it right and validating it when you could be doing other 
things that are more fun, productive, and impressing your boss with your 
lack of not invented here attitude.


corba is complex to get started but it is one of the faster RPC 
mechanisms available (if memory serves).  XML RPC is trivially easy to 
use but is much slower because of XML.  Sun RPC.  Well, it's a gray 
beard.  Try not to use it.


On the security profile, don't sweat it.  The best you can do is set out 
the local machine firewalls to deny access from each other except for 
the database connection.  ssh should only be permitted from your green 
network.  Everything else really depends on what you need exposed and where.


connection security can be handled with SSL.  Many database engines 
support this (if memory serves).



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[gentoo-user] updating mostly identical systems

2005-08-03 Thread Eric S. Johansson

I need feedback on this cunning plan.

I have five (virtual machine) systems which are mostly identical. 
Originally I customized each one with a different set of use flags. 
Each one has a different set of applications with a common core.  I 
started updating them last night and woke up this morning to three of 
them building xorg-x11 (and they're still at it, pity my poor CPUs).


Needless to say this pushed my Mr. grumpy hot button and I want to 
change how I do things.  I'm beginning to think what I should do is 
create a unified make.conf which is as common as possible.  Only 
difference being maybe the references to the cache (which is one of the 
five machines).


after creating a unified make.conf, I believe I should set up a build 
process on one machine to create binary packages as well as managing its 
disk space cleaning up the temporary directory, and expiring old or 
redundant packages.  Then the four other machines should install the 
binary packages in preference to building their own.  But after the 
binary packages are installed, they should go through a source update 
for their own individual packages.


make sense?

what would be the best way for the four other machines to access the 
binary packages?  NFS?  File copy?


suggestions for managing disk space and expiring old packages?  I've 
found one which I'm trying out (distmaint) but it takes so long, it's 
definitely a candidate for cron.


suggestions are most appreciated.  I want to make this process of 
updating a faster one requiring less attention.


thank you
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Re: [gentoo-user] updating mostly identical systems

2005-08-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 10:40:49 -0400, Eric S. Johansson wrote:

 what would be the best way for the four other machines to access the 
 binary packages?  NFS?  File copy?

I have $PKGDIR (in make.conf) set to an NFS share, so all machines can
download binary packages from the same directory. The first one to emerge
a package build the binary.


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Re: [gentoo-user] can't unload modules

2005-08-03 Thread maxim wexler

  then ran make modules_install. Did I forget
 something?
 
 yes you forgot to make the kernel and forgot to
 install the kernel and
 reboot.

Didn't forget. Those are obvious steps and not worth mentioning.




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Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread Luke Albers
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 09:20 -0400, fire-eyes wrote:
 On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 14:45 +0200, Fernando Meira wrote:
  How stable is e17? The new stuff worth it? Any comments about this?
 
 E17 is still beta or maybe even just alpha code. It is not stable by a
 long shot, and I find it rather difficult to use, when everything
 compiles (it often doesn't).
 
 For experimenting I would say go ahead, and you can find a nice guide on
 this at:
 
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_emerge_e17
 
 Just remember it's very early code, and it may or may not build from one
 day to the next.
 
 But it's neat to toy with :)
 


I run this every day to recompile from CVS.  Somtimes it compiles,
sometimes it doesnt, but I dont really care.  I don't think it is
difficult to use at all, you will rarely need to change much from the
command line.  The only thing that can be a bitch is making all the eapp
files, but you can get other peoples' and use them.

echo =x11-wm/e- -*
=dev-db/edb- -*
=dev-libs/eet- -*
=media-libs/imlib2- -*
=media-libs/imlib2_loaders- -*
=x11-libs/evas- -*
=x11-libs/ecore- -*
=media-libs/epeg- -*
=media-libs/epsilon- -*
=dev-libs/embryo- -*
=media-libs/edje- -*
=x11-libs/esmart- -*
=media-libs/etox- -*
=x11-libs/ewl- -*
=dev-libs/engrave- -*
=dev-util/e_utils- -*
=x11-misc/entrance- -*
=app-misc/evidence- -*
=x11-misc/engage- -*
=media-gfx/elicit- -*
=media-gfx/entice- -*
=media-video/elation- -*
=media-video/envision- -*
=app-misc/examine- -*
=media-libs/emotion- -*
=mail-client/embrace- -*   
=net-news/erss- -* 
=media-video/eclair- -*
=sci-calculators/equate- -*
=x11-plugins/e_modules- -*  /etc/portage/package.keywords 
emerge -v edb eet imlib2 imlib2_loaders evas ecore epeg epsilon embryo
edje esmart emotion etox ewl e engrave e_utils entrance evidence engage
elicit entice elation envision examine equate erss embrace eclair
e_modules 


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Re: [gentoo-user] updating mostly identical systems

2005-08-03 Thread Michael Crute
Have you seen the build host tutorial on the wiki? http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_A_Build_Host

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Re: [gentoo-user] can't unload modules

2005-08-03 Thread Holly Bostick
maxim wexler schreef:
then ran make modules_install. Did I forget

something?

yes you forgot to make the kernel and forgot to
install the kernel and
reboot.
 
 
 Didn't forget. Those are obvious steps and not worth mentioning.
 

Everything is worth mentioning when something goes wrong. Sometimes the
problem with your cable TV reception really *is* that the power is
unplugged, after all.

That said, do you also have KMOD (Automatic kernel module loading) set?
I can't think of anything else that might have any affect on this,
unless the problem is with the specific modules that you're trying to
load/unload.

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Re: [gentoo-user] updating mostly identical systems

2005-08-03 Thread Eric S. Johansson

Michael Crute wrote:
Have you seen the build host tutorial on the wiki? 
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_A_Build_Host


-Mike



no I had not.  look like just what I need.  also looks like putting it 
in place would be faster than waiting for the current set of updates to 
finish.


thanks!!!

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Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread Christoph Gysin

Luke Albers wrote:

I run this every day to recompile from CVS.  Somtimes it compiles,
sometimes it doesnt, but I dont really care.  I don't think it is
difficult to use at all, you will rarely need to change much from the
command line.  The only thing that can be a bitch is making all the eapp
files, but you can get other peoples' and use them.


I'd suggest running this once:

echo 
=x11-wm/e- -*
=dev-db/edb- -*
=dev-libs/eet- -*
=media-libs/imlib2- -*
=media-libs/imlib2_loaders- -*
=x11-libs/evas- -*
=x11-libs/ecore- -*
=media-libs/epeg- -*
=media-libs/epsilon- -*
=dev-libs/embryo- -*
=media-libs/edje- -*
=x11-libs/esmart- -*
=media-libs/etox- -*
=x11-libs/ewl- -*
=dev-libs/engrave- -*
=dev-util/e_utils- -*
=x11-misc/entrance- -*
=app-misc/evidence- -*
=x11-misc/engage- -*
=media-gfx/elicit- -*
=media-gfx/entice- -*
=media-video/elation- -*
=media-video/envision- -*
=app-misc/examine- -*
=media-libs/emotion- -*
=mail-client/embrace- -*
=net-news/erss- -*
=media-video/eclair- -*
=sci-calculators/equate- -*
=x11-plugins/e_modules- -*
  /etc/portage/package.keywords

and then the following each time you want to update:

emerge -v edb eet imlib2 imlib2_loaders evas ecore epeg epsilon embryo
edje esmart emotion etox ewl e engrave e_utils entrance evidence engage
elicit entice elation envision examine equate erss embrace eclair
e_modules

Else you'll lose everything previously defined in your package.keywords :-(

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Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread Luke Albers
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 17:59 +0200, Christoph Gysin wrote:
...
 I'd suggest running this once:
 
...
 and then the following each time you want to update:
 
 emerge -v edb eet imlib2 imlib2_loaders evas ecore epeg epsilon embryo
 edje esmart emotion etox ewl e engrave e_utils entrance evidence engage
 elicit entice elation envision examine equate erss embrace eclair
 e_modules
 
 Else you'll lose everything previously defined in your package.keywords :-(


good call.  I don't have anything else in that file so I didnt really
pay any attention to what that script was doing.  

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Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread Fernando Meira
Thank you all for answering :)

I'm getting the feeling that I should go for e17 after what I've been
seeing and reading!!! (though a few guys returned back to e16
afterwards).

Luke, you been using it for 3 months and never used e16. So, would you
said that I should start my experience with enlightenment wm in its
newer version and skip the learning stage in its stable version? :)

Christoph, I can't find the screenshot I saw and made me think about
moving to E, but this one is also good and has the panel (right under
the IM app) I was talking about: http://www.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de/~uriel/images/screen.jpg 
My aim for the desktop look is something simple, with gentoo icons at
the bottom for shortcuts to most used apps and that stuff (calendar and
info panel)... [now I think that I may misused the word panel..
sorry!] I will need help to make it look like that.. and guide or howto?

A question before emerging e17: that won't replace e16, right?

So, I'll do the steps you provided me and emerge e17. I'll cross my fingers and hope it compiles.

echo =x11-wm/e- -*=dev-db/edb- -*=dev-libs/eet- -*=media-libs/imlib2- -*
=media-libs/imlib2_loaders- -*=x11-libs/evas- -*=x11-libs/ecore- -*=media-libs/epeg- -*=media-libs/epsilon- -*=dev-libs/embryo- -*=media-libs/edje- -*=x11-libs/esmart- -*
=media-libs/etox- -*=x11-libs/ewl- -*=dev-libs/engrave- -*=dev-util/e_utils- -*=x11-misc/entrance- -*=app-misc/evidence- -*=x11-misc/engage- -*=media-gfx/elicit- -*
=media-gfx/entice- -*=media-video/elation- -*=media-video/envision- -*=app-misc/examine- -*=media-libs/emotion- -*=mail-client/embrace- -*=net-news/erss- -*=media-video/eclair- -*
=sci-calculators/equate- -*=x11-plugins/e_modules- -*  /etc/portage/package.keywordsemerge -v edb eet imlib2 imlib2_loaders evas ecore epeg epsilon embryoedje esmart emotion etox ewl e engrave e_utils entrance evidence engage
elicit entice elation envision examine equate erss embrace eclaire_modules

Cheers,
Fernando


Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread Fernando Meira
I might be wrong, but isn't that a unnecessary step?? 
Even though you don't have anything else in package.keywords, once you
specify there the packages to unmask, you don't need to do it again
when you want to update E, right? Just running the 'emerge (...)' would
suffice...

FernandoOn 8/3/05, Luke Albers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
good call.I don't have anything else in that file so I didnt reallypay any attention to what that script was doing.
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Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread Luke Albers
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 16:51 +, Fernando Meira wrote:
 Thank you all for answering :)
 
 I'm getting the feeling that I should go for e17 after what I've been
 seeing and reading!!! (though a few guys returned back to e16
 afterwards).
 
 Luke, you been using it for 3 months and never used e16. So, would you
 said that I should start my experience with enlightenment wm in its
 newer version and skip the learning stage in its stable version? :)
 

I dont see any reason not to try e17.  I also dont see any reason not to
try e16 if you think it looks interesting as well.  I think e17 is going
to be, if its not already, better in just about every way than e16.

I don't think that emergeing e17 will overwrite e16, because the
executable for e17 is called enlightenment-0.17, which probably was done
intentionally so that enlightenment from e16 wouldnt be overwritten 

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Re: [gentoo-user] can't unload modules - MY BAD

2005-08-03 Thread maxim wexler


--- Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 maxim wexler schreef:
 then ran make modules_install. Did I forget
 
 something?
 
 yes you forgot to make the kernel and forgot to
 install the kernel and
 reboot.

crow_eaten You are right. I had neglected that thing
called 'make'. /crow_eaten

 Everything is worth mentioning when something goes
 wrong. Sometimes the
 problem with your cable TV reception really *is*
 that the power is
 unplugged, after all.

No wonder it was so fast!




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[gentoo-user] Xpp segmentation fault

2005-08-03 Thread Philip Webb
Whenever I print a file using Xpp, it prints correctly,
but the message segmentation fault appears below the command line.
I've tried re-emerging Xpp, but the result is the same.
I've also looked in bugs  the forum without any mention of this phenomenon.
I know what a seg fault is  realise it could be from a dependency.
Does anyone have any helpful thoughts ?

Upto-date stable Gentoo, KDE 3.4.1 , Xpp 1.5 , Xorg-x11-6.8.2-r1 .

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Re: [gentoo-user] Testing how secure a server is...

2005-08-03 Thread Joseph
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 23:50 +, Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales
wrote:
 Hi there,
 
I was wondering what tools should I use to detect security flaws to
 my server and a few tips on how to use them. What are the most common
 forms of attack and how do I avoid being attacked by one of them?
 
The services avaliable are only Apache - SSL and SSH. I've
 installed an firewall, iptables and firestarter to control it, and
 blocked all ports except 443 and 8080, where the SSH is listening.
 Apache has PHP installed as a module.
 
 Thanks for the attention,
 
 Raphael.

I have port knocking installed on firewall, to further protect any SSH
attacks. 
So port 22 is closed (in stealth mode) and only opens if it received the
right knock sequence, moreover it is only opened to an IP address from
which received successful knock sequence; all others see this port as
closed (in stealth mode).

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Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread Luke Albers
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 16:56 +, Fernando Meira wrote:
 I might be wrong, but isn't that a unnecessary step?? 
 Even though you don't have anything else in package.keywords, once you
 specify there the packages to unmask, you don't need to do it again
 when you want to update E, right? Just running the 'emerge (...)'
 would suffice...
 
 Fernando
 
 On 8/3/05, Luke Albers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 good call.  I don't have anything else in that file so I didnt
 really
 pay any attention to what that script was doing. 
 
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that all into a script the first time I compiled E17, and kept running
it every day.  

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Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread Luke Albers
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 18:55 +, Fernando Meira wrote:
 On 8/3/05, Luke Albers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I don't really understand the problem.
 
 I use ~x86 for everything.  What I pasted in my previous email
 works 
 fine for me.  I don't really know what engage is, but I tried
 to run it
 one time and I dont think it worked, I got some strange black
 block on
 the bottom of my screen, so I killed it.
 
 engage is a dockbar and E17 module.
 What I was saying is that you masked the packages as -* (for the cvs
 version). Masking them with ~x86 would give you the snapshot version.
 So, following from you script, you masked them as -*. But, I already
 installed a small set (while emerging engage) masked as ~x86. 
 So I wanted to know if I should just replace ~x86 per -* (and add the
 remaining packages) or would I need to unmerge the installed packages
 and redo everything using -* for all packages.
 
 This because is not good idea to mix ebuilds from -* and ~x86.
 
 Hope it's clear now...
 Cheers,
 Fernando

I would guess it would be best to redo them with -* so you get
everything from CVS

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Re: [gentoo-user] weird alsa...

2005-08-03 Thread Holly Bostick
karlos schreef:
 hi 
 
 I have tried the meterbridge and alsamixer settings but no input.
 there are a few things I really don't why they happen, for example
 does alsa not start off correctly during boot, no errors and modules
 get loaded, but it when I want to start alsamixer after I log on, it
 complains that there are no elements to display. Same with jack, it
 cannot connect until alsa is restarted manually. no errors there
 either. I have included all I can think of now, I hope that there is a
 solution out there.
 here is lsmod for example..
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ lsmod | grep snd
 snd_pcm_oss49312  0
 snd_mixer_oss  18432  1 snd_pcm_oss
 snd_seq_midi7840  0
 snd_virmidi 4288  0
 snd_seq_virmidi 7168  1 snd_virmidi
 snd_seq_midi_event  6912  2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_virmidi
 snd_seq53264  3 
 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_event
 snd_usb_audio  74944  0
 snd_usb_lib15104  1 snd_usb_audio
 snd_rawmidi21920  3 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_usb_lib
 snd_seq_device  8332  3 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
 snd_hwdep   8480  1 snd_usb_audio
 snd_intel8x0   30784  0
 snd_ac97_codec 84220  1 snd_intel8x0
 snd_pcm84100  4
 snd_pcm_oss,snd_usb_audio,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec
 snd_timer  22916  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
 snd48228  14
 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_virmidi,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq,snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_hwdep,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
 snd_page_alloc  8836  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
 
 could it be, these are all loaded as OSS?? I once heard underscores
 mean OSS is beeing used. that would be very strange.
 
 here are alsa restart:
 
 posthuman karlos # /etc/init.d/alsasound restart
 * WARNING:  you are stopping a boot service.
 * Storing ALSA Mixer Levels ... [ ok ] 
 * Unloading ALSA ... [ ok 
 ] 
 * Unloading ALSA modules ...  [ ok ]
 * Loading ALSA modules ...
 * Loading: snd-card-0 ...  [ ok ] 
 * Loading: snd-card-1 ...  [ ok ] 
 * Loading: snd-card-2 ...  [ ok ] 
 * Loading: snd-seq-midi ...   [ ok ] 
 * Restoring Mixer Levels ...   [ ok ]
 
 what could this possibly be???
 
 thanks,
 
 
  karsten

I have often found that alsasound is quite picky about the way it must
all be set up in order for everything to load correctly.

First thing is-- I know that the Handbook suggests to set it alsasound
in the boot runlevel, but I find it works better when set in the default
runlevel. Ime, alsasound vastly prefers modules rather than static
compiles wherever possible, and in the boot runlevel, the modules are
not loaded yet, as modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.x has not yet run.

I suspect you may basically be asking alsasound to load modules before
they are available, either statically, or certainly as modules. Besides,
you don't need sound in the boot runlevel anyway-- what is there to hear?

Hope this helps,
Holly

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RE: [gentoo-user] Gone fishing

2005-08-03 Thread Christopher Fisk

On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Dave Nebinger wrote:


Taking time away from anything technical.  Hopefully I won't even have
as much as a light switch to look at, let alone use: )


And the point of sending this to the entire mailing list would be 


We're the closest thing he has to family?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gone fishing

2005-08-03 Thread kenny lundberg
to waste bandwidth probably

On 8/3/05, Christopher Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Dave Nebinger wrote:
 
  Taking time away from anything technical.  Hopefully I won't even have
  as much as a light switch to look at, let alone use: )
 
  And the point of sending this to the entire mailing list would be 
 
 We're the closest thing he has to family?
 
 
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 incompetent boobs.  I know this because I've worked alongside them, gone
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[gentoo-user] wpc54g card as AP -- works?

2005-08-03 Thread Fernando Meira
Hi,

I wanted to provide wireless connection to the internet for other laptops at home. 
To do this, one laptop is connected via eth0 and wlan0 should work as AP to all others.
I have been following the HOWTO:http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Building_a_Wireless_Access_Point_With_Gentoo and trying to find solution in forums... but I can't get it working.

The wireless card is working with ndiswrapper.
When I try to set it to Master, I get this:
# iwconfig wlan0 mode Master
Error for wireless request Set Mode (8B06) :
 SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.

Does this means that the card is unable to perform the task I want, or what am I doing wrong?
Is there any other HOWTO with better instructions? Or anyone that can provide me a step-by-step configuration?

Thanks in advance.
Fernando.


Re: [gentoo-user] Testing how secure a server is...

2005-08-03 Thread Ryan Viljoen
Joseph could you direct me toward a how to on how to set that up, please.

Raphael have you gone through
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/security/index.xml it has some good
points and worth going through and ticking off each one.

Cheers
Rav

On 8/3/05, Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 23:50 +, Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales
 wrote:
  Hi there,
 
 I was wondering what tools should I use to detect security flaws to
  my server and a few tips on how to use them. What are the most common
  forms of attack and how do I avoid being attacked by one of them?
 
 The services avaliable are only Apache - SSL and SSH. I've
  installed an firewall, iptables and firestarter to control it, and
  blocked all ports except 443 and 8080, where the SSH is listening.
  Apache has PHP installed as a module.
 
  Thanks for the attention,
 
  Raphael.
 
 I have port knocking installed on firewall, to further protect any SSH
 attacks.
 So port 22 is closed (in stealth mode) and only opens if it received the
 right knock sequence, moreover it is only opened to an IP address from
 which received successful knock sequence; all others see this port as
 closed (in stealth mode).
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] weird alsa...

2005-08-03 Thread Christoph Eckert

 what could this possibly be???

Does your machine load als during boot?!?


Best regards


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Re: [gentoo-user] wpc54g card as AP -- works?

2005-08-03 Thread Mauro Faccenda
Fernando Meira wrote:

 Does this means that the card is unable to perform the task I want, or what 
 am I doing wrong?
 Is there any other HOWTO with better instructions? Or anyone that can 
 provide me a step-by-step configuration?

You should try to use a Ad-Hoc (point-to-point) wireless network.

[]'s
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[gentoo-user] Problem with genlop

2005-08-03 Thread Yuval Scharf
Hello,

Why when ever I execute

cgext03 ~ # genlop --current

I get...

!!! Error: no working merge found.

Thanks, 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Testing how secure a server is...

2005-08-03 Thread Joseph
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 23:37 +0200, Ryan Viljoen wrote:
 Joseph could you direct me toward a how to on how to set that up, please.

I use freesco firewall and they have small package (add-on) called
knock, you can install it on a floppy see my howto:
http://forums.freesco.org/support/index.php?showtopic=13731
but eventually I moved it to HD (as I had too much problems with 1.68Mb
floppies) 
My intension was to use this setup to print to a remote printer location
over SSH, and it works like a charm.

The knock demon runs on firewall (that is the best setup) and listen for
specific knock sequence.  You can open any port this way.  
If you have a Gentoo based firewall, knock in in portage but your
machine must more mussels to run Gentoo; and Freesco will run on any
door-stopper starting from 486. 

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 Raphael have you gone through
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/security/index.xml it has some good
 points and worth going through and ticking off each one.
 
 Cheers
 Rav
 
 On 8/3/05, Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 23:50 +, Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales
  wrote:
   Hi there,
  
  I was wondering what tools should I use to detect security flaws to
   my server and a few tips on how to use them. What are the most common
   forms of attack and how do I avoid being attacked by one of them?
  
  The services avaliable are only Apache - SSL and SSH. I've
   installed an firewall, iptables and firestarter to control it, and
   blocked all ports except 443 and 8080, where the SSH is listening.
   Apache has PHP installed as a module.
  
   Thanks for the attention,
  
   Raphael.
  
  I have port knocking installed on firewall, to further protect any SSH
  attacks.
  So port 22 is closed (in stealth mode) and only opens if it received the
  right knock sequence, moreover it is only opened to an IP address from
  which received successful knock sequence; all others see this port as
  closed (in stealth mode).
  
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[gentoo-user] vmware-3 emerge problem

2005-08-03 Thread Peter Peltonen
Hi,

I'm new to gentoo and I'm trying to install old vmware to my first
gentoo box which has Gentoo Base System version 1.6.13.

I get some errors while doing emerge =vmware-workstation-3.2.1.2242-r3:

--snip--
* Applying vmware-config.pl-gcc-generalized.patch ...[ ok ]
cp: `/var/tmp/portage/vmware-workstation-3.2.1.2242-r3/image///opt/vmware/lib':
specified destination directory does not exist
Try `cp --help' for more information.
chmod: cannot access
`/var/tmp/portage/vmware-workstation-3.2.1.2242-r3/image///opt/vmware/lib/bin/vmware-vmx':
No such file or directory
 * Adding answers to /etc/vmware/locations
/usr/portage/app-emulation/vmware-workstation/vmware-workstation-3.2.1.2242-r3.ebuild:
line 138: cd: 
/var/tmp/portage/vmware-workstation-3.2.1.2242-r3/image//opt/vmware/lib/bin:
No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat `vmware-ui': No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat `vmware-mks': No such file or directory
man:
making executable: /usr/lib/vmware-glibc-2.3.2-compat.so
QA Notice: /opt/vmware/bin/vmware-ping is setXid, dynamically linked
and using lazy bindings.
This combination is generally discouraged. Try: CFLAGS='-Wl,-z,now'
emerge vmware-workstation
 Completed installing vmware-workstation-3.2.1.2242-r3 into
/var/tmp/portage/vmware-workstation-3.2.1.2242-r3/image/
--/snip--

The installation script seems to be trying to copy thing to wrong
places, if I understand the situation correctly? Where do I find the
script and does someone have an already working solution to this
problem?

The errors are fatal as configuration of vmware fails:

--snip--
Extracting the sources of the vmmon module.

tar: /opt/vmware/lib/modules/source/vmmon.tar: Cannot open: No such
file or directory
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
Unable to untar the /opt/vmware/lib/modules/source/vmmon.tar file in the
/tmp/vmware-config2 directory.
--/snip--

Regards,
peter

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with genlop

2005-08-03 Thread A. Khattri
On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, Yuval Scharf wrote:

 Why when ever I execute

 cgext03 ~ # genlop --current

 I get...

 !!! Error: no working merge found.

That would be correct, --current reports on an emerge in currently in
progress, so you see the above message when there's none in progress.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with genlop

2005-08-03 Thread Yuval Scharf
On Thursday 04 August 2005 01:29, A. Khattri wrote:
 On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, Yuval Scharf wrote:
  Why when ever I execute
 
  cgext03 ~ # genlop --current
 
  I get...
 
  !!! Error: no working merge found.

 That would be correct, --current reports on an emerge in currently in
 progress, so you see the above message when there's none in progress.


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I meant whenever there is a merge going on

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Re: [gentoo-user] [ot] An iptables like setup on windowsxp

2005-08-03 Thread A. Khattri
On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Harry Putnam wrote:

 Maybe this isn't really the place but its more likely to get informed
 answers here than on an ms group where most will not know what iptables
 is.

 I'm in a position where I need to use MSwindowsxp OS on 2 machines
 that are dedicated video and image editing machines, because of the
 software available for that platform.

 These machines will also be internet connected and there for will need
 some onboard protection beyond my gateway/firewall.

 I want to find a packet filter like iptables for use on windows.  That
 is, a text based/editable driven packet filter with most or all the
 capabilities of iptables.

 If it is possible to run iptable from cygwin then I'd prefer that
 approach. Anyone have pointers/urls?

Ive never seen a text-based Windoze firewall.

I did a search at cygwin.com/packages and didn't find an iptables package.

You might be better off with the free basic ZoneAlarm...


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Re: [gentoo-user] enlightenment 16 or 17

2005-08-03 Thread Justin Patrin
On 8/3/05, Fernando Meira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 yes, i agree.
  I just hope that's enough.
  I'll emerge e17 now :D
  I'll bring news.. soon..
  

I'm trying e17 as well after reading this ;-)

I suggest emerging edge before epsilon or you'll get compile errors.

 
 
 On 8/3/05, Luke Albers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 18:55 +, Fernando Meira wrote:
   On 8/3/05, Luke Albers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I don't really understand the problem. 
  
   I use ~x86 for everything.  What I pasted in my previous email
   works
   fine for me.  I don't really know what engage is, but I tried
   to run it
   one time and I dont think it worked, I got some strange black 
   block on
   the bottom of my screen, so I killed it.
  
   engage is a dockbar and E17 module.
   What I was saying is that you masked the packages as -* (for the cvs
   version). Masking them with ~x86 would give you the snapshot version. 
   So, following from you script, you masked them as -*. But, I already
   installed a small set (while emerging engage) masked as ~x86.
   So I wanted to know if I should just replace ~x86 per -* (and add the 
   remaining packages) or would I need to unmerge the installed packages
   and redo everything using -* for all packages.
  
   This because is not good idea to mix ebuilds from -* and ~x86.
  
   Hope it's clear now...
   Cheers,
   Fernando
  
  I would guess it would be best to redo them with -* so you get
  everything from CVS
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Network Monitoring (graphical web app)

2005-08-03 Thread A. Khattri
On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Michael Crute wrote:

 I use Nagios and Cacti with much success.

 http://www.nagios.org/
 http://www.cacti.net/
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Re: [gentoo-user] Network Monitoring (graphical web app)

2005-08-03 Thread A. Khattri
On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Chris Frederick wrote:

 I've been looking for a monitoring app that I can run on my
 server/gateway.  The more graphical the better, I really like the looks
 of the graphs from ipac and grapher.  But I'd like to get more details
 than just total interface statistics.  I'd like to be able to see a
 graph for the total, but also a few extra graphs for watching specific
 ports (21, 22, 25, 80, 443, etc...).  Being able to monitor procs,
 specific procs, and memory and stuff would be nice, but I can get that
 from other apps if needed.

 Any suggestions/recommendations?

ntop ?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with genlop

2005-08-03 Thread Willie Wong
On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 01:49:15AM +0300, Yuval Scharf wrote:
 On Thursday 04 August 2005 01:29, A. Khattri wrote:
  On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, Yuval Scharf wrote:
   Why when ever I execute
  
   cgext03 ~ # genlop --current
  
   I get...
  
   !!! Error: no working merge found.
 
  That would be correct, --current reports on an emerge in currently in
  progress, so you see the above message when there's none in progress.
 
 
  --
 
 Hello,
 
 I meant whenever there is a merge going on
 
 Yuval Scharf

Me too. When I reinstalled my system in April, genlop -c works like a
charm. Sometime between then and now genlop -c no longer reports
anything when a emerge is going on. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with genlop

2005-08-03 Thread David Morgan
On 18:59 Wed 03 Aug , Willie Wong wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 01:49:15AM +0300, Yuval Scharf wrote:
  On Thursday 04 August 2005 01:29, A. Khattri wrote:
   On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, Yuval Scharf wrote:
Why when ever I execute
   
cgext03 ~ # genlop --current
   
I get...
   
!!! Error: no working merge found.

It's broken due to some change in sandbox - known issue :)

If there's another release it'll hopefully be fixed (currently broken in 0.30.2
(x86) and 0.30.3 (~x86))

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with genlop

2005-08-03 Thread Willie Wong
Hum, because of your post, I began to believe it is not only my
problem. And voila! A bug has been filed for it:

  http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99823

It is caused by a change in behaviour in sandbox such that the file
/tmp/sandboxpids.tmp, which genlop uses to determine if a emerge is
going on, is no longer used, resulting in genlop never catching a
emerge. 

It is allegedly fixed in 0.30.4

There is a patch in the bugzilla thread if you really want the fix
now. 

W

On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 01:49:15AM +0300, Yuval Scharf wrote:
 On Thursday 04 August 2005 01:29, A. Khattri wrote:
  On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, Yuval Scharf wrote:
   Why when ever I execute
  
   cgext03 ~ # genlop --current
  
   I get...
  
   !!! Error: no working merge found.
 
  That would be correct, --current reports on an emerge in currently in
  progress, so you see the above message when there's none in progress.
 
 
  --
 
 Hello,
 
 I meant whenever there is a merge going on
 
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[gentoo-user] Gentoo Badges

2005-08-03 Thread Ryan Viljoen
[quote]
Let the world know that you run on Gentoo Linux.

Put a Powered by Gentoo image on your Gentoo powered web sites or use
a Gentoo Badge on your web page, blog, forum signature or elsewhere
and link back to http://www.gentoo.org - help us spread the word! Tell
others how happy you are with Gentoo Linux.
[/quote]

http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/graphics.xml

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Re: [gentoo-user] can't unload modules

2005-08-03 Thread Norberto Bensa
Bryan Whitehead wrote:
 Sounds like a forgotten make mrproper or make clean before a full
 build?


make mrproper wipes .config, so be careful ;)

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[gentoo-user] pcmcia problems (cardmgr can't find device)

2005-08-03 Thread Lucien D.
phaedrus lu # cardmgr
cardmgr[10882]: no device drivers defined
cardmgr[10882]: no cards defined
cardmgr[10882]: no sockets found!

This is my problem, I've been troubleshooting it off and on for a
while now with no luck.

I'm running 2.6.11 gentoo-sources and version 3.2.8-r2 of pcmcia-cs. 
Right now pcmcia support is compiled into the kernel, I have
previously tried it as a module with the same results.  The computer
is a Dell inspiron 8200.  Below is other relevant info

from lspci:
:02:01.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI4451 PC card Cardbus
Controller
Subsystem: Dell: Unknown device 00d4
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 255
Memory at 20001000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Bus: primary=02, secondary=03, subordinate=06, sec-latency=176
I/O window 0: -0003 [disabled]
I/O window 1: -0003 [disabled]
16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001

:02:01.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI4451 PC card Cardbus
Controller
Subsystem: Dell: Unknown device 00d4
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 255
Memory at 20002000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
Bus: primary=02, secondary=07, subordinate=0a, sec-latency=176
I/O window 0: -0003 [disabled]
I/O window 1: -0003 [disabled]
16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001

phaedrus lu # zgrep CONFIG_PCMCIA /proc/config.gz
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_DEBUG is not set
CONFIG_PCMCIA=y
CONFIG_PCMCIA_PROBE=y
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_AHA152X is not set
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_FDOMAIN is not set
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_NINJA_SCSI is not set
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_QLOGIC is not set
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_SYM53C500 is not set

phaedrus conf.d # cat pcmcia | grep ^[^#]
CARDMGR_OPTS=-f
SCHEME=home
PCIC=yenta_socket
PCIC_OPTS=
PCIC_ALT=i82365
PCIC_ALT_OPTS=
CORE_OPTS=




Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.

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[gentoo-user] Prevent modules from loading

2005-08-03 Thread Tom Stoddard
How do I prevent modules from loading at boot time? I have a case where 
multiple modules (8139cp and 8139too) load for my network adapter. I 
would like to prevent 8139too from loading without going to the extreme 
of deleting it.

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[gentoo-user] Botched Gentoo Install

2005-08-03 Thread C.Beamer
Hello all,

This will be a bit lengthy and I apologize for that, but I don't know
exactly where I went wrong, so am providing all details.

First, I am new to Gentoo, but not new to Linux.  I have installed
source tarballs on other distributions (mostly Redhat and Fedora), but
have never configured Linux in the same manner as required for Gentoo. 
However, I am not stupid, although not a computer science grad, so all I
really need is a push in the right direction with an explanation that
doesn't required you to be a geek to understand (I'm a wanna be
geek, but nowhere near that elite status! :-) ).

Okay, short story first.  This was my second attempt at installing
Gentoo.  The first time, I got to the point where I could boot from the
hard drive, but when I tried to connect to the network (i.e. my isp via
cable modem), I had no connection.  I had missed a step somewhere.

Anyway, I went back to square one because I wasn't sure exactly where I
had missed the step and even if I could have surmised it, I wasn't sure
if I could recover from that point.  This wasn't a problem and it was a
good learning experience.  Attempt 2 was successful in that I could boot
my system and eth0 was recognized and functional.

From here, I did a quantum leap.  I didn't know where to start so, I
just typed 'emerge kde'  3 days later, kde was installed along with X,
which of course I know kde is dependent on.  At this point, I tried to
startx to see what the system looked like and to try to determine
exactly how much of kde had been installed - ie whether I had any
further components to install.  Well, that's where my problem starts.

After attempting to connect to the xserver, I got my shell prompt back
again with the following printed on the screen:

New driver is i810
(==)Using default built in configuration
(EE) open /dev/fb0: No such device -- I have no idea what this means
(EE) GARTinit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (no such file or directory)
(EE)I810(0) AGPGART support is not available.  Make sure your kernel has
agpgart support or that the agpgart kernel module is loaded
(EE)Screens found, but non have useable configuration
Fatal server error:
no screens found

Now for the details:

When I initially booted from the Gentoo CD, at the boot prompt, I typed
gentoo dopcmcia agpgart acpi=on

The reason that I did this was because when I had Fedora Core installed
on that computer, I noticed references to those things during the boot -
I ALWAYS boot into runlevel 3 rather that runlevel 5

I didn't install any extra kernel modules because when I got to the
point in the Handbook that showed the command to list the available
modules, on issuing the command, I didn't know what any of them were, so
left well enough alone.

Probably not relevant to this issue, but in my make.conf file, I
probably went overboard with the USE flags.  I included everything that
I recognized or that sounded interesting that wasn't in the
make.defaults file.

In my grub.conf file, I *didn't* use the vga line that the Handbook said
could be used because from what I read in the Handbook, I didn't think I
needed to.

Graphics integrated into the system board into the system board: - an
Intel i810 chip.
Specifics:

Integrated Intel Direct AGP Graphics Accelerator with Dynamic Video Memory 
(DVM) technology architecture.

Other details are as follows (I provide this in case it is thought that
I should have installed an extra kernel module):

Graphics architecture:  Intel Dynamic Video Memory (DVM) technology

Graphics accelerator: Intel Direct Accelerated Graphics Port (AGP) 
2D and 3D graphics accelerator

Display cache: 4 MB, 100-MHz synchronous dynamic random-access memory (SDRAM)

Graphics memory: Dynamically assigned from system memory

Video resolutions

800 x 600 pixels; 85 hertz (Hz) refresh rate with 16.7 million colors

1024 x 786 pixels; 85 Hz refresh rate with 64,000 colors

1280 x 1024 pixels; 85 Hz refresh rate with 256 colors

1600 x 1200 pixels 75 Hz refresh rate with 256 colors 

The computer is a Dell Optiplex GX100 and the monitor is a Dell E551,
which has always been recognized on other Linux installs (as far back as
Redhat 9.0), so I don't think that it is special.

Any ideas where I went wrong?  Is this recoverable without having to
reinstall everything?

I don't mind reinstalling.  I'm doing this on an old PC (600 MHz Celeron
processor).  The idea is to get Gentoo to the point where I have my
Fedora Core system and if I can do that, I'm going to ditch FC4 in
favour of Gentoo.

Oh another piece of info.  This has to be something that I missed
doing.  The computer I'm using once had Fedora Core 3 on it, I have
tried Ubuntu on it and I can run a Knoppix 3.9 live CD on it, so I know
that I should be able to install Gentoo on it.

If the concensus is that I should again start from scratch, any ideas on
what I should have done would be appreciated so that I don't repeat my
mistakes.

Thanks for the patience in 

Re: [gentoo-user] pcmcia problems (cardmgr can't find device)

2005-08-03 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 04 August 2005 09:17, Lucien D. wrote:
 phaedrus lu # zgrep CONFIG_PCMCIA /proc/config.gz
 # CONFIG_PCMCIA_DEBUG is not set
 CONFIG_PCMCIA=y
 CONFIG_PCMCIA_PROBE=y
 # CONFIG_PCMCIA_AHA152X is not set
 # CONFIG_PCMCIA_FDOMAIN is not set
 # CONFIG_PCMCIA_NINJA_SCSI is not set
 # CONFIG_PCMCIA_QLOGIC is not set
 # CONFIG_PCMCIA_SYM53C500 is not set

You're missing some important information here. Here's mine:

CONFIG_PCCARD=y
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_DEBUG is not set
CONFIG_PCMCIA=y
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_LOAD_CIS is not set
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_IOCTL is not set
CONFIG_CARDBUS=y

CONFIG_YENTA=y
# CONFIG_PD6729 is not set
# CONFIG_I82092 is not set
# CONFIG_TCIC is not set
CONFIG_PCCARD_NONSTATIC=y


CONFIG_CARDBUS enables support for 32-bit cards (which you probably want)
and you'll also need to enable at least one driver. Looking at your lspci
output, the Yenta driver should work fine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] pcmcia problems (cardmgr can't find device)

2005-08-03 Thread W.Kenworthy
Hint: Avoid d-link DWL-G650+ (atheros ACX111) based cards - they have a
resource conflict with this laptop resulting in a hard lockup.
Interesting, it works under dozeXP after loading the manufacturers
driver as per instructions (ndiswrapper, madwifi and the acx100 project
all suffer from this)

Make sure you compile as modules (doesnt seem to work when monolithic),
and check /etc/conf.d/pcmcia - mine is standard, but in the past I did
have to force yenta_socket to load and not the default (problem since
gone away)

Let me know if you need anything else

BillK

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My Dell 8200 on gentoo-sources 2.6.12-r6
Default pcmcia loads the modules on startup (i have not modified it at
all), then card specific ones on insertion:

lsmod for modules associated with pcmcia and an old hermes/orinoco card
orinoco_cs  6792  1
orinoco43152  1 orinoco_cs
hermes  6272  2 orinoco_cs,orinoco
yenta_socket   20488  3
rsrc_nonstatic 11392  1 yenta_socket
pcmcia_core46108  4
orinoco_cs,pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic


bunyip ~ # rc-update -s |grep pcm
  pcmcia |  default


Grep .config for PCMCIA:
# Bus options (PCI, PCMCIA, EISA, MCA, ISA)
# PCCARD (PCMCIA/CardBus) support
CONFIG_PCMCIA_DEBUG=y
CONFIG_PCMCIA=m
CONFIG_PCMCIA_PROBE=y
CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_PCMCIA=m
# PCMCIA SCSI adapter support
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_AHA152X is not set
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_FDOMAIN is not set
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_NINJA_SCSI is not set
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_QLOGIC is not set
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_SYM53C500 is not set
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_WAVELAN is not set
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_NETWAVE is not set
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_RAYCS is not set
CONFIG_PCMCIA_HERMES=m
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_WL3501 is not set
# PCMCIA network device support
CONFIG_NET_PCMCIA=y
CONFIG_PCMCIA_3C589=m
CONFIG_PCMCIA_3C574=m
CONFIG_PCMCIA_FMVJ18X=m
CONFIG_PCMCIA_PCNET=m
CONFIG_PCMCIA_NMCLAN=m
CONFIG_PCMCIA_SMC91C92=m
CONFIG_PCMCIA_XIRC2PS=m
CONFIG_PCMCIA_AXNET=m
# PCMCIA character devices




On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 20:17 -0400, Lucien D. wrote:
 phaedrus lu # cardmgr
 cardmgr[10882]: no device drivers defined
 cardmgr[10882]: no cards defined
 cardmgr[10882]: no sockets found!
 
 This is my problem, I've been troubleshooting it off and on for a
 while now with no luck.
 
 I'm running 2.6.11 gentoo-sources and version 3.2.8-r2 of pcmcia-cs. 
 Right now pcmcia support is compiled into the kernel, I have
 previously tried it as a module with the same results.  The computer
 is a Dell inspiron 8200.  Below is other relevant info
 
 from lspci:
 :02:01.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI4451 PC card Cardbus
 Controller
 Subsystem: Dell: Unknown device 00d4
 Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 255
 Memory at 20001000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
 Bus: primary=02, secondary=03, subordinate=06, sec-latency=176
 I/O window 0: -0003 [disabled]
 I/O window 1: -0003 [disabled]
 16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001
 
 :02:01.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI4451 PC card Cardbus
 Controller
 Subsystem: Dell: Unknown device 00d4
 Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 255
 Memory at 20002000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
 Bus: primary=02, secondary=07, subordinate=0a, sec-latency=176
 I/O window 0: -0003 [disabled]
 I/O window 1: -0003 [disabled]
 16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001
 
 phaedrus lu # zgrep CONFIG_PCMCIA /proc/config.gz
 # CONFIG_PCMCIA_DEBUG is not set
 CONFIG_PCMCIA=y
 CONFIG_PCMCIA_PROBE=y
 # CONFIG_PCMCIA_AHA152X is not set
 # CONFIG_PCMCIA_FDOMAIN is not set
 # CONFIG_PCMCIA_NINJA_SCSI is not set
 # CONFIG_PCMCIA_QLOGIC is not set
 # CONFIG_PCMCIA_SYM53C500 is not set
 
 phaedrus conf.d # cat pcmcia | grep ^[^#]
 CARDMGR_OPTS=-f
 SCHEME=home
 PCIC=yenta_socket
 PCIC_OPTS=
 PCIC_ALT=i82365
 PCIC_ALT_OPTS=
 CORE_OPTS=
 
 
 
 
 Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.
 
 Lucien
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Prevent modules from loading

2005-08-03 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
If it's in /etc/modules.autoload.d/yourkernelversion then comment it out 
or remove it from there.


On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Tom Stoddard wrote:

How do I prevent modules from loading at boot time? I have a case where 
multiple modules (8139cp and 8139too) load for my network adapter. I would 
like to prevent 8139too from loading without going to the extreme of deleting 
it.




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[gentoo-user] emerge monodevelop - dependency with mozilla

2005-08-03 Thread Catalin Trifu

Hi,


   I want to emerge monodevelop but it wants to emerge mozilla too;
I don't use mozilla at all; I use firefox.
   Has anyone managed to get monodevelop without mozilla ?


Thanks,
Catalin

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Re: [gentoo-user] updating mostly identical systems

2005-08-03 Thread Michael Crute
Hmm not to be insulting but:
* Is NFS Running
* Is there a firewall on either host (and if so are the ports for NFS opened)

If all is good there then my last think would be why not just put your mount in fstab and skip the automounter jazz?

-MikeOn 8/3/05, Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Eric S. Johansson wrote: Michael Crute wrote: Have you seen the build host tutorial on the wiki? http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_A_Build_Host
 -Mike no I had not.look like just what I need.also looks like putting it in place would be faster than waiting for the current set of updates to finish.
setup according to the build a host directions but automounter isn'tworking.It's probably a typo but it's escaping meon build host:xeno linux-2.6.10-xenU # showmount -eExport list for xeno:
/usr/portage/distfiles*.harvee.org/build/gentoo/i686/var/lib/portage*.harvee.org/build/gentoo/i686/usr/portage/packages *.harvee.orgshould be open to any machine within my network
on build client:harvee-xeno ~ # more /etc/autofs/auto.master# $Id: auto.master,v 1.3 2004/12/09 08:25:48 robbat2 Exp $# Sample auto.master file# Format of this file:# mountpoint map options
# For details of the format look at autofs(8).#/net /etc/autofs/auto.net#/misc/etc/autofs/auto.misc#/home/etc/autofs/auto.home/misc /etc/autofs/auto.misc --timeout=600--ghostharvee-xeno ~ #
harvee-xeno ~ # more /etc/autofs/auto.miscdistfiles -fstype=nfs,bg,hard xeno:/usr/portage/distfilespackages-fstype=nfs,bg,hardxeno:/build/gentoo/i686/usr/portage/packagesvar_lib_portage -fstype=nfs,bg,hard xeno:/build/gentoo/i686/var/lib/portage
basically the same as the documentation.I only substituted build formnt.the how-to on using automounter gives some sketchy instructionsbut nothing on debugging or diagnostics.Any suggestions or should I go dig out my circa 1992 O'Reilly NFS book?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Botched Gentoo Install

2005-08-03 Thread Michael Crute
Colleen,
Glad to see another Fedora user see the light! Here's the scoop... you
haven't botched anything you just need to configure your X server. In
theory it is very easy to configure your X server all you need to do is
run Xorg --configure as root then copy the xorg config file from
/root/xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and startx again. In practice
it usually takes a bit more tweaking. On my machine X wouldn't
recognize my mouse at all till I told it where it was (/dev/input/mice)
and even after that it took some tweaking to make all 5 buttons do what
I wanted them to do. I also loaded the nvidia driver because otherwise
the graphics suck. After that you're home free. Here's some links to
some step by steps if you like. (Note that you don't need the
manufactures graphics drivers if your on a server but on a desktop I
wouldn't run without them.) Let me know if you have anymore troubles.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml
-Mike

P.S. The first time your issue with eth0 could have been corrected by
fixing a kernel parameter that you missed and recompiling just the
kernel and modules :)
On 8/3/05, C.Beamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello all,This will be a bit lengthy and I apologize for that, but I don't knowexactly where I went wrong, so am providing all details.First, I am new to Gentoo, but not new to Linux.I have installed
source tarballs on other distributions (mostly Redhat and Fedora), buthave never configured Linux in the same manner as required for Gentoo.However, I am not stupid, although not a computer science grad, so all I
really need is a push in the right direction with an explanation thatdoesn't required you to be a geek to understand (I'm a wanna begeek, but nowhere near that elite status! :-) ).
Okay, short story first.This was my second attempt at installingGentoo.The first time, I got to the point where I could boot from thehard drive, but when I tried to connect to the network (i.e. my isp viacable modem), I had no connection.I had missed a step somewhere.
Anyway, I went back to square one because I wasn't sure exactly where Ihad missed the step and even if I could have surmised it, I wasn't sureif I could recover from that point.This wasn't a problem and it was a
good learning experience.Attempt 2 was successful in that I could bootmy system and eth0 was recognized and functional.From here, I did a quantum leap.I didn't know where to start so, Ijust typed 'emerge kde'3 days later, kde was installed along with X,
which of course I know kde is dependent on.At this point, I tried tostartx to see what the system looked like and to try to determineexactly how much of kde had been installed - ie whether I had anyfurther components to install.Well, that's where my problem starts.
After attempting to connect to the xserver, I got my shell prompt backagain with the following printed on the screen:New driver is i810(==)Using default built in configuration(EE) open /dev/fb0: No such device -- I have no idea what this means
(EE) GARTinit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (no such file or directory)(EE)I810(0) AGPGART support is not available.Make sure your kernel hasagpgart support or that the agpgart kernel module is loaded(EE)Screens found, but non have useable configuration
Fatal server error:no screens foundNow for the details:When I initially booted from the Gentoo CD, at the boot prompt, I typedgentoo dopcmcia agpgart acpi=onThe reason that I did this was because when I had Fedora Core installed
on that computer, I noticed references to those things during the boot -I ALWAYS boot into runlevel 3 rather that runlevel 5I didn't install any extra kernel modules because when I got to thepoint in the Handbook that showed the command to list the available
modules, on issuing the command, I didn't know what any of them were, soleft well enough alone.Probably not relevant to this issue, but in my make.conf file, Iprobably went overboard with the USE flags.I included everything that
I recognized or that sounded interesting that wasn't in themake.defaults file.In my grub.conf file, I *didn't* use the vga line that the Handbook saidcould be used because from what I read in the Handbook, I didn't think I
needed to.Graphics integrated into the system board into the system board: - anIntel i810 chip.Specifics:Integrated Intel Direct AGP Graphics Accelerator with Dynamic Video Memory (DVM) technology architecture.
Other details are as follows (I provide this in case it is thought thatI should have installed an extra kernel module):Graphics architecture:Intel Dynamic Video Memory (DVM) technologyGraphics accelerator: Intel Direct Accelerated Graphics Port (AGP)
2D and 3D graphics acceleratorDisplay cache: 4 MB, 100-MHz synchronous dynamic random-access memory (SDRAM)Graphics memory: Dynamically assigned from system memoryVideo resolutions800 x 600 pixels; 85 hertz (Hz) refresh rate with 
16.7 million 

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge monodevelop - dependency with mozilla

2005-08-03 Thread Zac Medico

Catalin Trifu wrote:

Hi,


   I want to emerge monodevelop but it wants to emerge mozilla too;
I don't use mozilla at all; I use firefox.
   Has anyone managed to get monodevelop without mozilla ?


Thanks,
Catalin



Monodevelop depends on gecko-sharp which depends on mozilla.  Perhaps the 
gecko-sharp ebuild could be modified to support the firefox use flag.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge monodevelop - dependency with mozilla

2005-08-03 Thread Michael Crute
Nope its required to run monodevelop (if you unemerge it you break monodevelop, just tried it).

-Mike
On 8/3/05, Catalin Trifu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,I want to emerge monodevelop but it wants to emerge mozilla too;I don't use mozilla at all; I use firefox.Has anyone managed to get monodevelop without mozilla ?Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Botched Gentoo Install

2005-08-03 Thread Bob Sanders
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 21:02:32 -0400
C.Beamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Welcome to the fun.

 After attempting to connect to the xserver, I got my shell prompt back
 again with the following printed on the screen:
 
 New driver is i810
 (==)Using default built in configuration
 (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such device -- I have no idea what this means
 (EE) GARTinit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (no such file or directory)
 (EE)I810(0) AGPGART support is not available.  Make sure your kernel has
 agpgart support or that the agpgart kernel module is loaded
 (EE)Screens found, but non have useable configuration
 Fatal server error:
 no screens found
 i

/dev/fb0 is the framebuffer.  No need to worry about that if using X.  
But if
running a splash screen, then it needs to be defined in the kernel.  
There is
a how-to on gentoo-wiki.org explaining how to setup the system and 
kernel.

The other, you'll need to re-config your kernel to include -

Device Drivers --
I2C Support --
M I2C support 
 *   I2C device interface 
I2C Hardware Bus Support --
M  Intel 810/815
 
And -

Device Drivers --
Character Devices --
Intel 440LX/BX/GX, I8xx and E7x05 chipset support
 
The above should get you graphics, or at least closer.  I don't have your 
setup, so
I'm doing a best guess on the above.

Bob
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[gentoo-user] BackupEXEC

2005-08-03 Thread Craig Zeigler

Hi all,

I'm looking to use Veritas BackupEXEC 10 on several of my servers, and 
would like to know if anyone knows how to get a backup exec agent to 
work properly with gentoo. It seems a simple enough question, but I've 
found nothing useful through the documentation, and their support folks 
don't even know what Gentoo is...


thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] pcmcia problems (cardmgr can't find device)

2005-08-03 Thread Lucien D.
As my old high school CS teacher used to say, error due to User
Headspace Misalignment.

I don't know what led me to enable it without enabling any drivers for
it, but that was my problem.   Thanks for the help.

Lucien

On 8/3/05, Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thursday 04 August 2005 09:17, Lucien D. wrote:
  phaedrus lu # zgrep CONFIG_PCMCIA /proc/config.gz
  # CONFIG_PCMCIA_DEBUG is not set
  CONFIG_PCMCIA=y
  CONFIG_PCMCIA_PROBE=y
  # CONFIG_PCMCIA_AHA152X is not set
  # CONFIG_PCMCIA_FDOMAIN is not set
  # CONFIG_PCMCIA_NINJA_SCSI is not set
  # CONFIG_PCMCIA_QLOGIC is not set
  # CONFIG_PCMCIA_SYM53C500 is not set
 
 You're missing some important information here. Here's mine:
 
 CONFIG_PCCARD=y
 # CONFIG_PCMCIA_DEBUG is not set
 CONFIG_PCMCIA=y
 # CONFIG_PCMCIA_LOAD_CIS is not set
 # CONFIG_PCMCIA_IOCTL is not set
 CONFIG_CARDBUS=y
 
 CONFIG_YENTA=y
 # CONFIG_PD6729 is not set
 # CONFIG_I82092 is not set
 # CONFIG_TCIC is not set
 CONFIG_PCCARD_NONSTATIC=y
 
 
 CONFIG_CARDBUS enables support for 32-bit cards (which you probably want)
 and you'll also need to enable at least one driver. Looking at your lspci
 output, the Yenta driver should work fine.
 
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[gentoo-user] glib-config and gtk-config point to version 1.2?

2005-08-03 Thread Matt Garman

I just started working on a glib/gtk application.  I have glib-2.6.4
and gtk-2.6.7 installed (plus glib and gtk versions 1.2.something).

For some reason, whenever I run 'gtk-config --version' (or the glib
the equivalent), it returns version 1.2.something.

Likewise, if I use the --libs and/or --cflags options, I get
information pointing to the 1.2 libraries and headers.

How do I get the config programs to return the 2.6 headers and
libraries?

Thanks,
Matt

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Re: [gentoo-user] Botched Gentoo Install

2005-08-03 Thread Michael Crute
Bob,

I2C is not a prerequisite of running X he just needs to configure the X
server and it should work. I have run into this before and solved it
without building I2C into the kernel (or as a module). All I forgot to
do was configure X.

-MikeOn 8/3/05, Bob Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 21:02:32 -0400C.Beamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Welcome to the fun. After attempting to connect to the xserver, I got my shell prompt back
 again with the following printed on the screen: New driver is i810 (==)Using default built in configuration (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such device -- I have no idea what this means
 (EE) GARTinit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (no such file or directory) (EE)I810(0) AGPGART support is not available.Make sure your kernel has agpgart support or that the agpgart kernel module is loaded
 (EE)Screens found, but non have useable configuration Fatal server error: no screens found i/dev/fb0
is the framebuffer.No need to worry about that if using
X.But ifrunning
a splash screen, then it needs to be defined in the
kernel.There isa how-to on gentoo-wiki.org explaining how to setup the system and kernel.The other, you'll need to re-config your kernel to include -Device Drivers --
I2C Support --M
I2C support
* I2C device interfaceI2C
Hardware Bus Support --M
 Intel 810/815And -Device Drivers --Character Devices --Intel
440LX/BX/GX, I8xx and E7x05 chipset supportThe above should get you graphics, or at least closer.I don't have your setup, soI'm doing a best guess on the above.Bob---
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge monodevelop - dependency with mozilla

2005-08-03 Thread Michael Crute
You could hack the ebuild which is a good idea or you can just emerge
mozilla and ignore it. I emerged with moznomail moznoirc and
moznocompose to leave off some of the excess and I just leave it be.

-MikeOn 8/3/05, Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Catalin Trifu wrote: Hi,I want to emerge monodevelop but it wants to emerge mozilla too; I don't use mozilla at all; I use firefox.Has anyone managed to get monodevelop without mozilla ?
 Thanks, CatalinMonodevelop
depends on gecko-sharp which depends on mozilla.Perhaps the
gecko-sharp ebuild could be modified to support the firefox use flag.Zac--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Re: [gentoo-user] glib-config and gtk-config point to version 1.2?

2005-08-03 Thread Matt Garman
On Wed, Aug 03, 2005 at 09:33:28PM -0500, Matt Garman wrote:
 I just started working on a glib/gtk application.  I have glib-2.6.4
 and gtk-2.6.7 installed (plus glib and gtk versions 1.2.something).
 
 For some reason, whenever I run 'gtk-config --version' (or the glib
 the equivalent), it returns version 1.2.something.
 
 Likewise, if I use the --libs and/or --cflags options, I get
 information pointing to the 1.2 libraries and headers.
 
 How do I get the config programs to return the 2.6 headers and
 libraries?

Sorry, stupid question.  gtk-config is specifically for the 1.2
version.  pkg-config is for the new version:

pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0
pkg-config --libs gtk+-2.0

Somebody should have RTFM'ed me:

http://gtk.org/tutorial/sec-compiling.html

Thanks!
Matt

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Re: [gentoo-user] Botched Gentoo Install

2005-08-03 Thread C.Beamer
Hi Michael et al,

Michael Crute wrote:

 Colleen,
 Glad to see another Fedora user see the light! Here's the scoop... you
 haven't botched anything you just need to configure your X server. In
 theory it is very easy to configure your X server all you need to do
 is run Xorg --configure as root then copy the xorg config file from
 /root/xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and startx again.

I was hopeful here.  I did as outlined and after running Xorg
-configure, the file /root.xorg.conf.new was produced.  I got a message
stating how to test the xserver.  And I still couldn't start x.

It's complaining a bit less than it did before, but I'm still getting
these lines of error messages:

 (EE) GARTinit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (no such file or directory)
 (EE)I810(0) AGPGART support is not available.  Make sure your
 kernel has
 agpgart support or that the agpgart kernel module is loaded
 (EE)Screens found, but non have useable configuration
 Fatal server error:
 no screens found

If I need to reconfigure the kernel, fine.  However, I need to be told
specifically what to do.

To refresh, this is my graphics/video info:

Graphics integrated into the system board into the system board: - an
Intel i810 chip.
Specifics:

Integrated Intel Direct AGP Graphics Accelerator with Dynamic Video
Memory (DVM) technology architecture.

Other details are as follows (I provide this in case it is thought that
I should have installed an extra kernel module):

Graphics architecture:  Intel Dynamic Video Memory (DVM) technology

Graphics accelerator: Intel Direct Accelerated Graphics Port (AGP)
2D and 3D graphics accelerator

Display cache: 4 MB, 100-MHz synchronous dynamic random-access memory
(SDRAM)

Graphics memory: Dynamically assigned from system memory

Video resolutions

800 x 600 pixels; 85 hertz (Hz) refresh rate with 16.7 million colors
1024 x 786 pixels; 85 Hz refresh rate with 64,000 colors
1280 x 1024 pixels; 85 Hz refresh rate with 256 colors
1600 x 1200 pixels 75 Hz refresh rate with 256 colors

The computer is a Dell Optiplex GX100 and the monitor is a Dell E551,

Regards,

Colleen
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[gentoo-user] Correct CHOST setting for Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.70GHz stepping 02

2005-08-03 Thread Richard Watson
Hi - I'm installing Gentoo on a Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.70GHz stepping
02. Can anyone advise me as to the correct CHOST setting. I'm a bit confused
on this ..
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Re: [gentoo-user] Botched Gentoo Install

2005-08-03 Thread Michael Crute
Indeed... that was what I needed every time. Try Bob's trick. I don't
run craptel hardware (been burned too many times) so perhaps I2C IS
required for their junk. Try to reconfigure the kernel per Bob's
directions and see if that fixes things.

-MikeOn 8/4/05, C.Beamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Michael et al,Michael Crute wrote: Colleen, Glad to see another Fedora user see the light! Here's the scoop... you haven't botched anything you just need to configure your X server. In
 theory it is very easy to configure your X server all you need to do is run Xorg --configure as root then copy the xorg config file from /root/xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and startx again.
I was hopeful here.I did as outlined and after running Xorg-configure, the file /root.xorg.conf.new was produced.I got a messagestating how to test the xserver.And I still couldn't start x.It's complaining a bit less than it did before, but I'm still getting
these lines of error messages: (EE) GARTinit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (no such file or directory) (EE)I810(0) AGPGART support is not available.Make sure your kernel has
 agpgart support or that the agpgart kernel module is loaded (EE)Screens found, but non have useable configuration Fatal server error: no screens foundIf I need to reconfigure the kernel, fine.However, I need to be told
specifically what to do.To refresh, this is my graphics/video info:Graphics integrated into the system board into the system board: - anIntel i810 chip.Specifics:Integrated Intel Direct AGP Graphics Accelerator with Dynamic Video
Memory (DVM) technology architecture.Other details are as follows (I provide this in case it is thought thatI should have installed an extra kernel module):Graphics architecture:Intel Dynamic Video Memory (DVM) technology
Graphics accelerator: Intel Direct Accelerated Graphics Port (AGP)2D and 3D graphics acceleratorDisplay cache: 4 MB, 100-MHz synchronous dynamic random-access memory(SDRAM)Graphics memory: Dynamically assigned from system memory
Video resolutions800 x 600 pixels; 85 hertz (Hz) refresh rate with 16.7 million colors1024 x 786 pixels; 85 Hz refresh rate with 64,000 colors1280 x 1024 pixels; 85 Hz refresh rate with 256 colors
1600 x 1200 pixels 75 Hz refresh rate with 256 colorsThe computer is a Dell Optiplex GX100 and the monitor is a Dell E551,Regards,Colleen--gentoo-user@gentoo.org
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RE: [gentoo-user] Correct CHOST setting for Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.70GHz stepping 02

2005-08-03 Thread Richard Watson
 Hi - I'm installing Gentoo on a Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.70GHz  
 stepping
 02. Can anyone advise me as to the correct CHOST setting. I'm a bit  
 confused
 on this ..

 Pentium II and newer processors (and other i686-compatibles) simply  
 use i686-pc-linux-gnu.  Why this is, I don't know exactly;  it  
 deals with the processor's architecture and how it compiles code.

 Also, set your CFLAGS to -O2 -march=pentium4 -mfpmath=sse,387 -pipe - 
 fomit-frame-pointer for a good mix of speed and stability.

Thanks Colin, I've (unfortunately) already compiled my system. Can I
re-compile everything with:

# emerge --update --ask --deep --verbose --newuse --tree world

The reason I'm looking into this is Kino keeps crashing, as do other data
intensive, high CPU applications.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Correct CHOST setting for Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.70GHz stepping 02

2005-08-03 Thread Colin


On Aug 4, 2005, at 1:29 AM, Richard Watson wrote:


Thanks Colin, I've (unfortunately) already compiled my system. Can I
re-compile everything with:

# emerge --update --ask --deep --verbose --newuse --tree world

The reason I'm looking into this is Kino keeps crashing, as do  
other data

intensive, high CPU applications.


This is definitely a case of flaky hardware or insufficient cooling.   
Don't bother recompiling your system, work on finding the culprit.  I  
recommend a thorough dusting, inside and out, followed by a couple  
passes of memtest86.


But if you do want to recompile, re-bootstrap and emerge your system  
first:

 cd /usr/portage
 scripts/bootstrap.sh
 emerge -Davenut system  # no offense to any Daves, this is just  
easy to remember.  It's your stuff plus --emptytree.

 emerge -Davenut world
 Rebuild your kernel.
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