[gentoo-user] xcdroast - gone?
On a new install I tried to emerge xcdroast but I receive 404 no such file. Checking for distfiles on various mirrors, I can not find any trace of it. Has xcdroast been dropped by gentoo? -- Ted Ozolins(VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] difference between /etc/init.d/script start and runing in default run-level
Sorry for the duplicate if you have seen the mail before. I just want to make the question more specific. After installing kde through emerge kdebase-meta and test with startx of no problem, I add xdm to default run-level with modifying display manager to kdm in rc.conf. However when I reboot the computer, the screen turn black for a second and then up without kdm start. The log file only contain following info about kdm: kdm[5526]: x server for display: 0 terminated unexpectedly kdm[5526]: unknow session exit code 0 (sig 9) from manager process ps -ef show kdm[5526] are still running. However when I del xdm from default run-level or kill 5526 then type: /etc/init.d/xdm start the kdm just turn out to run smoothly. Start with default xdm in rc.conf also had no problem. It is so strange that there is no problem to start kdm after login from command line, and only to fail at start-up in default run-level. Any idea about the problem appreciated. Actually I want to know what is the difference between running /etc/init.d/script start and running from default level. Thanks in advance. Chuan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VPN?
Get dyndns working on one end... and then use ppp over ssh... :) http://www.csh.rit.edu/~psionic/articles/ppp-over-ssh/ http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/ppp-ssh.html On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, Michael W. Holdeman wrote: I have a dyndns account, it keeps the dns updted. I can always get to my router/gateway which is dyndns enabled, how do I get to my ip on the server, I need to mount the servers nfs export throught the router. I setup the correct ports for nfs to foreward, is that it? If I can do that it would be very insecure, then I would disable that and set-up openvpn on the server to the router... As I said I am over my head.. Mike On Saturday 27 August 2005 12:15 am, David Miller wrote: I've been having alot of luck with openvpn it's ssl based rather than ipsec. I have found it to be easier to setup and less confusing and it has clients for various platforms including windows...which is not always the easiest platform to use IPSEC with unless you go with a commercial client. You will need to setup a certificate authority and understand the basics of openssl the rest is pretty simple. It even works behind a NAT router or firewall. If the vpn connection is lost it will re-establish it's connection automatically once it's routable again. This works for both dynamic ip clients and even the server as long as you're using some sort of deamon to update dyndns info. For the most part, atleast in my area, I find comcast IP's to be very stable. My IP hasn't changed in years. My ip least just gets renewed. -- David On 8/26/05, Michael W. Holdeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK I have read the vpn howto, and tunneling from the howto, and to be truthfull i am totally over my head. I have a LAN at the office including a freebsd file server, the server has an ip of 192.168.xx.xx, and several other gentoo desktops have the same +1 each. I have a linksys cable modem, and wireless router serving through the gateway of 192.168.xx.1. dns is fixed with 2 dns servers from comcast. Problem is I have a dynamis ip from comcast. I want to be able to access a desktop machine, and most importantly the bsd file server with my laptop, again with a dynamic assigned ip from remote locations. What is the best combination, and some sort of howto for dummies would be great!! Thanks in advance. Mike -- Michael W. Holdeman Powered by Gentoo Linux www.gentoo.org | Kernel 2.6.11-ck8 | Win4Lin 5-1-20 netraverse.com | Win4LinPro 6.1.1-03 win4lin.com | | -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Bryan Whitehead Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VPN?
Am Samstag, den 27.08.2005, 00:32 -0400 schrieb Michael Crute: On 8/27/05, David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been having alot of luck with openvpn it's ssl based rather than ipsec. I have found it to be easier to setup and less confusing and it has clients for various platforms including windows...which is not always the easiest platform to use IPSEC with unless you go with a commercial client. You will need to setup a certificate authority and understand the basics of openssl the rest is pretty simple. It even works behind a NAT router or firewall. If the vpn connection is lost it will re-establish it's connection automatically once it's routable again. This works for both dynamic ip clients and even the server as long as you're using some sort of deamon to update dyndns info. Are there any security trade-offs with SSL as opposed to IPSEC? I suggest reading the article OpenVPN and the SSL VPN Revoultion on http://openvpn.net/articles.html . You should find all answers there. On 8/26/05, Michael W. Holdeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to be able to access a desktop machine, and most importantly the bsd file server with my laptop, again with a dynamic assigned ip from remote locations. You can easily configure OpenVPN for such kind of environments. I know not (naught? :) about the VPN but as far as your dynamic IP goes I use changeip.com with great success. They are farily cheap and you can send them a top level domain. The nice part is to update the DNS records you can download a really simple Bash script and cron it to make the updates. -Mike -- Michael E. Crute Software Developer SoftGroup Development Corporation Linux, because reboots are for installing hardware. In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Heinz Sporn SPORN it-freelancing Mobile: ++43 (0)699 / 127 827 07 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.sporn-it.com Snail: Steyrer Str. 20 A-4540 Bad Hall Austria / Europe -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A Gentoo Firewall howto?
Am Samstag, den 27.08.2005, 00:22 -0400 schrieb Ron Bickers: On Fri August 26 2005 06:36 pm, James wrote: I've decided to take the plunge and build my first, full featured firewall on Gentoo. Any other ideas or recommendations on documents or firewall install config on gentoo or a gentoo derivative are most welcome? I've had good luck using Shorewall (shorewall.net). It should work the same on any Linux with netfilter/iptables. Just wanted to second Shorewall especially for it's great documentations. -- Ron -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Heinz Sporn SPORN it-freelancing Mobile: ++43 (0)699 / 127 827 07 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.sporn-it.com Snail: Steyrer Str. 20 A-4540 Bad Hall Austria / Europe -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sub-net 0.0.0.0
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:20:12 -0600, Joseph wrote: Is there a way to check what IP the device has on the network? I know the device MAC address and when I plug it IN, it obtains one of the IP via DHCP. With arp -a IP arp -e I can only check the MAC address. Is there a way to other way around. Try arp -a -- Neil Bothwick Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes! pgpQHNFbfv8Nz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bbgallery and template files
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 19:48:35 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: I've downloaded todays snapshot of protage and extracted gimp-perl. Placed it in my portage tree. Then unmasked it with package.keyword file and ran `emerge -v -p gimp-perl and then without -p. The build pulled in 20 other perl packages and is running currently. Should I expect trouble from doing it this way? Yes, if the dependencies are not in your outdated portage tree, although it appears you got away with it this time. Why don't you want an up to date portage tree? -- Neil Bothwick There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult -C.A.R. Hoare pgplhNz0GATDu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Any booby-traps with AMD64?
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 23:41:10 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
This'll be my first linux install that won't be 32-bit Intel. I've
been reading the AMD64 install docs on the Gentoo.org website. The big
items I've noticed are...
- stick with ext2fs/ext3fs with all other filesystems being unstable
I've been running resierfs and xfs for well over a year with zero
problems.
I intend to use the following partition layout...
- /8 gigs
- swap 2 gigs
- /var 8 gigs
- /home gets the rest of the drive. There'll be tons of my garbage
under /home/misc. /usr/local and /opt will be symlinks on / with
the actual files sitting in /home/misc/local and /home/misc/opt.
8GB for / is probably OK, I have that size for /usr, with /var and .opt
mounted on /usr/{var,opt} and it's around 75% full (/ is ~150MB).
symlinks for partitions always seem kludgy to me, I prefer to mount on
the directory with the bind option, I use
/usr/var /var auto bind 0 0
in /etc/fstab.
This layout reflects my experiences from my Windows and Redhat days.
Keep the OS on its own partition, so you can blow away and re-install or
install the next version as required.
There is no next version with Gentoo, so this doesn't really apply.
Even if you did feel some odd need to reinstall, it's no big deal to tar
up /usr/local before doing so.
--
Neil Bothwick
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Re: [gentoo-user] xcdroast - gone?
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 23:29:07 -0700, Ted Ozolins wrote: On a new install I tried to emerge xcdroast but I receive 404 no such file. Checking for distfiles on various mirrors, I can not find any trace of it. Has xcdroast been dropped by gentoo? Which version? i just tried emerge -f xcdroast and it immediately started downloading xcdroast-0.98alpha15.tar.gz from the first mirror it tried, nchc.dl.sourceforge.net. Is your portage tree up to date? Maybe you are trying to download an old version. -- Neil Bothwick Are you sure this isn't the time for a colorful metaphor? pgpoIR5Z10WAw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] A Gentoo Firewall howto?
I've used both firehol and shorewall, and they're both great! But for a more advanced setup, I would recommend shorewall (firehol is a bit tricky at some points, like port-forwarding), it will save you a lot of time (setting up a 3 NIC firewall with shorewall takes less than 30 minutes)... Oscar On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 22:36:39 + (UTC) James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I've decided to take the plunge and build my first, full featured firewall on Gentoo. At first I was going to use 'gnap' but further reading reveals that this sort of derived firewall is stateless, and I want a statefull firewall. It's also masked. (feel free to correct me if I miss something). The firewall will have (3) nics, Outside(static IP) DMZ for several web servers, mail server and DNS secondaries and a private for a DNS server, PCs(doz) and assorted Linux systems. So after googling for a while, I could not find any detailed documentation on building a gentoo based robust firewall (I sure thought I'd ran across such a page/document, but, nothing today). I did find some packages to 'ease the pain' on configuring iptables and completing the firewall: Recommendations here? fwbuilder bastille kmyfirewall firestarter I did find this gentoo document: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml This example is for a 2 nic basic firewall. I need a dmz that will have web servers, dns servers, and will ensure security. I did find one Debian-centric security document: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto Alternatively, since this machine is only going to be a firewall ethernet router so rather than securing a complete Gentoo system I could just use a 'firewall cd' installation, if one exists as a Gentoo derivative. Any other ideas or recommendations on documents or firewall install config on gentoo or a gentoo derivative are most welcome? Note: my firewall experience is mostly with openbsd. James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Unable to unmerge php and mod_php
On Fri, 2005-08-26 at 23:29 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: That's irrelevant. Portage keeps the ebuilds used to install each package in /var/db/pkg. Otherwise updating a deprecated package would be impossible. The problem is that the ebuild uses an eclass that no longer exists. Bingo. I had to go to viewcvs and get the old php.eclass and then I was able to unmerge. I suppose it would have been nice if one day when I was doing esync, that I was warned php.eclass would be gone. And here are the merges you have done which are covered by that: etc. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Any booby-traps with AMD64?
On Fri, 2005-08-26 at 23:41 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: Bad news... my 1.8 ghz P4 died recently and I'm now running on my emergency backup 6-year-old Dell (450 mhz PIII and 128 megs of RAM). Let's just say that editing 2560 X 1920 digital photos in GIMP is a rather liesurely process. Good news... Saturday, I'm picking up... 64bit AMD 3000BP [snip] Right on. Gentoo on AMD64 is the only way to go AMD64, in my opinion. I'm actually going to lean towards the hardware side of things. I found these items to be EXTREMELY important when I was building some dual opteron 248's with 8GB ram. 1) First thing you should do is update your bios 2) Use only RAM recommended by the manufacturer. It will probably be considerably more expensive, but NOT doing so can lead to some really weird problems later, resembling bad ram, but you won't be able to track it down in the usual ways with memtest I guess this one isn't hardware, well, it sort of is: 3) Do not run more than 3 or 4GB (I forget) ram with the installation CD's, it'll eventually puke. If you have more ram, add it back later once you have configured a kernel to support it. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Any booby-traps with AMD64?
never tried to use lilo on AMD64, since I switched from lilo to grub and never want to go back. I intend to use the following partition layout... - /8 gigs a little tiny: your /usr gets very big when you have a lot of programs (Gentoo installs everything on /usr by default) and your posrtage cache easily reaches ~3GB... I suggest to create a /usr partition of ~8GB and a / of ~2GB i wanted just notice that some stuf (java, OO, ati-drivers, some games) goes to /opt dir -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A Gentoo Firewall howto?
Or use monmotha and be up an running in a couple of minutes. I am using 3 nics at the moment with it. I did try shorewall, but the setup time and learning curve was so much greater I dumped it (the complexity worried me as well - complex means it may be vulnerable to misconfiguration). Mind you, on complex/commercial setups it probably has an advantage, but not for SOHO/home use. BillK On Sat, 2005-08-27 at 12:23 +0200, Oscar wrote: I've used both firehol and shorewall, and they're both great! But for a more advanced setup, I would recommend shorewall (firehol is a bit tricky at some points, like port-forwarding), it will save you a lot of time (setting up a 3 NIC firewall with shorewall takes less than 30 minutes)... Oscar On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 22:36:39 + (UTC) James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I've decided to take the plunge and build my first, full featured firewall on Gentoo. At first I was going to use 'gnap' but further reading reveals that this sort of derived firewall is stateless, and I want a statefull firewall. It's also masked. (feel free to correct me if I miss something). The firewall will have (3) nics, Outside(static IP) DMZ for several web servers, mail server and DNS secondaries and a private for a DNS server, PCs(doz) and assorted Linux systems. So after googling for a while, I could not find any detailed documentation on building a gentoo based robust firewall (I sure thought I'd ran across such a page/document, but, nothing today). I did find some packages to 'ease the pain' on configuring iptables and completing the firewall: Recommendations here? fwbuilder bastille kmyfirewall firestarter I did find this gentoo document: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml This example is for a 2 nic basic firewall. I need a dmz that will have web servers, dns servers, and will ensure security. I did find one Debian-centric security document: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto Alternatively, since this machine is only going to be a firewall ethernet router so rather than securing a complete Gentoo system I could just use a 'firewall cd' installation, if one exists as a Gentoo derivative. Any other ideas or recommendations on documents or firewall install config on gentoo or a gentoo derivative are most welcome? Note: my firewall experience is mostly with openbsd. James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VPN?
On Saturday 27 August 2005 04:12, Michael W. Holdeman wrote: OK I have read the vpn howto, and tunneling from the howto, and to be truthfull i am totally over my head. http://www.natecarlson.com/linux/ipsec-x509.php As long as the server has a static address, you'll be fine. Doesn't even matter if it's your laptop initiating the connection from a private IP behind your cable modem. Problems are likely to come up if your private IP is in the same range as the private IPs at the other end, in which case you'll probably be needing to get a DHCP lease from the remote end (something I've not done, or even tried to do yet...) Basically, the server has a connection defined which specifies it's certificate, and is left open ended so anyone can connect to it. But, because it's got a certificate only remote hosts which provide a certificate signed by the same CA will be allowed. -- Mike Williams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: bbgallery and template files
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The build pulled in 20 other perl packages and is running currently. Should I expect trouble from doing it this way? Yes, if the dependencies are not in your outdated portage tree, although it appears you got away with it this time. Why don't you want an up to date portage tree? Its not that I don't want an updated portage tree. Its just that I've let my installation get fairly aged while doing other things for the last several mnths. In that time I've forgotten most of what goes into keeping an updated system running smooth. Last time I updated portage it seems I had lots of other things arise from that. It took a few weeks to get running smoothly again. Right now I didn't want to spend the time on it since I'm heavily involved with video editing on several projects and am in the middle of getting my property ready for sale to boot. I would like to see an outline of what it takes to update the whole system but as I recall its all in gentoo documentation but will require quite extensive reading. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bbgallery and template files
On Saturday 27 August 2005 12:27, Harry Putnam wrote: I would like to see an outline of what it takes to update the whole system but as I recall its all in gentoo documentation but will require quite extensive reading. emerge sync emerge world -u etc-update revdep-rebuild -- Mike Williams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: bbgallery and template files
Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Saturday 27 August 2005 12:27, Harry Putnam wrote: I would like to see an outline of what it takes to update the whole system but as I recall its all in gentoo documentation but will require quite extensive reading. emerge sync emerge world -u etc-update revdep-rebuild Thanks for the simple outline... That was so encouraging that I'm going to get this done this morning... Thanks for the push. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VPN?
Hi, On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, Bryan Whitehead wrote: Get dyndns working on one end... and then use ppp over ssh... :) http: //www.csh.rit.edu/~psionic/articles/ppp-over-ssh/ http: //www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/ppp-ssh.html Nah, don't do that. It will introduce major issues reg. connection stability. OpenVPN is much better - as long TCP isn't used. Using SSH/ppp one would transfer IP over TCP. That's much worser than IP over UDP. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: bbgallery and template files
Roy Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Harry Putnam wrote:
Well according to the installed docu.. there is supposed to be:
From the `Usage' html page: (Note the last item)
Now run bbgallery to create the galleries. Without any parameters it
will use the following default values:
* Look for images in the default directory
* Create index pages with up to 25 thumbnails
* Have up to five thumbnails in one row
* Use Gallery as title for the index pages
* Be quiet. Don't produce any output on SDTOUT
* Delay pages in the slide show for 15 seconds
* Create links to the meta index
* Thumbnails are scalled to 100 pixels
* Images are scaled to 800 pixels
* Short descriptions in the index page
* The default template will be used
I believe my troubles are arising from the fact that a required
package (Gimp::Module) is not present on my system. It appears to be
the tool that creates the templates.
So far I've been unsuccessfull installing it via cpan as reported in
previous post.
emerge gimp-perl
On the templates, I think the missing default template is an
installation error.
I looked thru the perl script and did not see any special handling for
default.
The $P{template} is just initialized to 'default'. On
http://bbgallery.sourceforge.net/templates.html, only two templates are
mentioned, monochrome and oldstyle. Then some instruction on how to modify
the templates. My guess is the author intends for you to link
/usr/lib/bbgallery/template/default to your preferred template. Example:
But am I wrong in thinking the installation process is supposed to
create the monochrome and oldstyle sets in:
/usr/lib/bbgallery/template ?
Here I see nothing like that happen even though I have now installed
gimp-perl. And reinstalled bbgallery.
Can you coach me on creating these templates myself? My perl skills
while deep enough for some fairly complex homemade scripts are not
deep enough to go thru the perl script and figure out what goes into a
template.
Maybe I could just copy yours.. Do you have have something at:
/usr/lib/bbgallery/template?
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Re: [gentoo-user] VPN?
Hi, On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, Michael W. Holdeman wrote: I have a dyndns account, it keeps the dns updted. I can always get to my router/gateway which is dyndns enabled, how do I get to my ip on the server, set up port forwarding on the router. Most router-in-a-box appliances will let you configure this using some kind of frontend. I need to mount the servers nfs export throught the router. I setup the correct ports for nfs to foreward, is that it? Hm, yes, that's how it is supposed to work. But as you mention... If I can do that it would be very insecure, then I would disable that and set-up openvpn on the server to the router... ... I wouldn't offer my NFS mounts to the wild, wild world out there. Instead, your setup would look like this: Router --port forwarding-- Box running OpenVPN And with OpenVPN you could either - bridge your office LAN to the OpenVPN virtual device (not recommended, traffic explosion ahead ;-) ), - route from the OpenVPN device to the office LAN So you'll basically get away with just one port forwarding from the router to the box running OpenVPN. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] switching from reiser4 to reiserfs
Hi, On Fri, 26 Aug 2005, Justin Patrin wrote: Is there an easy way switch back my reiser4 partition to reiserfs without reinstalling everything. I suggest booting from a Gentoo CD. Make a tarball of the entire FS you want to convert and either pipe it across the network or onto another HD you can put in this machine. Reformat the partition. Untarball the backup onto the newly formatted partition. You also need to make sure you alter your fstab to mount the partition right (and alter your grub or other boot config files accordingly as well). Hm, short addition here: ...and don't forget to use tar's p option! BTW, I don't really know if the Gentoo CDs support Reiser4... But any LiveCD will do. In fact, one could simply remount the partition read-only for the running system and build the tarball. Using a tmpfs root system it would even be possible to unpack the tarball without any reboot. But for doing that, one has to read at least the pivot_root manpage and a ready chrootable system is needed, to. Gentoo's stages will most probably do a good job here. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bbgallery and template files
On Saturday 27 August 2005 13:03, Harry Putnam wrote: Thanks for the simple outline... That was so encouraging that I'm going to get this done this morning... Thanks for the push. No problem, it really is that simple. Getting it done this morning is another matter, going several months without an update is likely to put you a long way back, meaning lots to compile. Thankfully you can just leave it going in the background. I almost always run my updates in a screen session, and if I'm working at the same time, nice'd 19 (nice -n 19 emerge world) -- Mike Williams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Closing message of emerge sync confusing
On Saturday 27 August 2005 13:45, Harry Putnam wrote: What does this mean... I though I had just updated portage. Or is a sync something different than an update? You just updated the portage tree, not portage the package. It's suggesting you emerge portage before emerge world/system/randompackage. -- Mike Williams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Blocking package stops emerge now what?
Running emerge -v -p world -u shows: Calculating world dependencies ^H^H ...done! [blocks B ] net-ftp/vsftpd-2.0.3-r1 (is blocking net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00) However any attempt to unmerge net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00 gets this error: root # emerge -v -C net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00 --- Couldn't find net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00 to unmerge. unmerge: No packages selected for removal. I want to keep the vsftpd package so what needs to happen here? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Blocking package stops emerge now what?
On Saturday 27 August 2005 09:40 am, Harry Putnam wrote: Running emerge -v -p world -u shows: Calculating world dependencies ^H^H ...done! [blocks B ] net-ftp/vsftpd-2.0.3-r1 (is blocking net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00) However any attempt to unmerge net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00 gets this error: root # emerge -v -C net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00 --- Couldn't find net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00 to unmerge. unmerge: No packages selected for removal. I want to keep the vsftpd package so what needs to happen here? You need to: emerge -C net-ftp/vsftpd-2.0.3-r1 (or any earlier vsftpd version found on your system) temporarily, and after you emerge net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00 and world, you can emerge net-ftp/vsftpd-2.0.3-r1 again. Robert Crawford -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Blocking package stops emerge now what?
On Saturday 27 August 2005 14:40, Harry Putnam wrote: I want to keep the vsftpd package so what needs to happen here? The version of vsftp you have installed is out of date, the new version wants to install ftpbase, but ftpbase blocks all versions of vsftp (and proftpd, and probably pure-ftpd) previous to the version which requires it. If that makes any sense... Anyway, unmerge vsftp, and emerge it back. -- Mike Williams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Blocking package stops emerge now what?
Robert Crawford schreef: On Saturday 27 August 2005 09:40 am, Harry Putnam wrote: Running emerge -v -p world -u shows: Calculating world dependencies ^H^H ...done! [blocks B ] net-ftp/vsftpd-2.0.3-r1 (is blocking net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00) However any attempt to unmerge net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00 gets this error: root # emerge -v -C net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00 --- Couldn't find net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00 to unmerge. unmerge: No packages selected for removal. I want to keep the vsftpd package so what needs to happen here? You need to: emerge -C net-ftp/vsftpd-2.0.3-r1 Actually, you shouldn't even need to specify the version (which syntax, btw, is 'emerge -C =net-ftp/vsftpd-2.0.3-r1' --you need that = sign to specify a particular version of a program), just doing a regular emerge -C(av) vsftpd should be perfectly sufficient to clear the block. (or any earlier vsftpd version found on your system) temporarily, and after you emerge net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00 and world, you can emerge net-ftp/vsftpd-2.0.3-r1 again. You likely should not have to. The idea of a BLOCK is that the new package either replaces the functionality of, or includes the functionality of, the currently installed program. This is why they block each other; for example, xchat-gnome is blocked by xchat, because xchat-gnome is the full xchat program (as opposed to a frontend), as is xchat (of course). So you can't install both of them at the same time. In this case, ftpbase installs the same functionality as vsftpd-- and may in fact create binaries with the same name, as gamin does for fam. You can't (apparently) have two ftp daemons installed at the same time, just as you can't have two file alteration monitors installed at the same time. I admit, the message is confusing, but just remember it's in reverse from what seems to naturally make sense to people: Calculating world dependencies ^H^H ...done! [blocks B ] net-ftp/vsftpd-2.0.3-r1 (is blocking net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00) means that because net-ftp/vsftpd-2.0.3-r1 is currently installed on the system net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00 which would be installed by the current operation, under normal circumstances, cannot be installed. Thus, the first package named is installed and has to be removed so that the second package named can be installed by Portage. Most people (including me, before I trained myself) read this message the other way around and think that the second package named is the one that is currently installed, but the second named package is the one that Portage *wants* to install (but can't, because of the first named package). HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] How can I burn DVD with k3b ?
Hi all! How can I burn dvd with k3b ? I emerge this with dvdr use flag, but what I need to do to write dvd ? 10nx -- Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 105266647 pgpiE4AWqXgIG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] GarageBand
On 8/26/05, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 26 Aug 2005, Mark Knecht wrote: Your friend is not alone in his desires. For the 4 years I've been doing Linux based audio I've wished, cajoled begged for something to replace Acid Pro. There is interest but no developer who'd been willing to take up the mission and go make it happen. Hey Mark, have you checked out Agnula? (Do a Google for Agnula GNU ;-) Yes, I've followed it for 3-4 years although I never ran it. I ended up running PlanetCCRMA for about 2 1/2 years since I start with Redhat anyway. It works really well for the audio apps they provide, but when you decide you want access to other non-audio apps RPM distros get too difficult to manage. http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/ This is a painless way for Linux newbies to get lots of audio apps quickly. An FC3 install is about 45 minutes and the apps are loaded within an hour, including initial system updates. The Planet is really well supported out of Stanford and the guy who runs the whole thing (Fernando) is really great. However, in the end it's no where near as stable as Gentoo and I actually get really good latency from the standard Gentoo kernel so I'm quite happy here. - Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SpamAssassin is letting everything through
daniel wrote: I've trained it with sa-learn on a whole slew of ham and spam and it continues to let through nearly all the spam coming in. BTW, in which form do all emails have to be in order to use them as examples for spamassassin-learning? mbox (all mails in 1 file), or maildir (every mail is a separate file)? Or both are acceptable? What about MUA mail-folders? Can I use them? I have a lot of mails in mozilla/thunderbird mail-folder format, which is (I think) very close to mbox (every mailfolder is one file, e.g. one file for all Sent mails, etc), but I'm not sure if spamassassin would understand it as many mails in one file, separated by newline and From - date line... Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I burn DVD with k3b ?
Makurin Roman schreef: Hi all! How can I burn dvd with k3b ? I emerge this with dvdr use flag, but what I need to do to write dvd ? 10nx Open k3b, choose one of the DVD project types from either 1. The big buttons on the lower half of the main screen 2. The button bar under the menu bar 3. The menu (File= New Project = New Video/Data/eMovix DVD project, depending on what type of DVD you're trying to create) If you are burning a DVD ISO, you can just choose Tools=Burn DVD image to do so. Once you have opened a new project type, drag the files you want to burn from the file browser above to the project window below. Then select 'burn' from either the menu, the main button bar, or the project button bar. What type of DVD are you trying to burn, and what is the problem that you are having doing so? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Blocking package stops emerge now what?
Thanks to all and esp. Holly for the detailed explanation. Quite a good setup once one understands the underpinnings. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: bbgallery and template files
Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Saturday 27 August 2005 13:03, Harry Putnam wrote: Thanks for the simple outline... That was so encouraging that I'm going to get this done this morning... Thanks for the push. No problem, it really is that simple. Getting it done this morning is another matter, going several months without an update is likely to put you a long way back, meaning lots to compile. Thankfully you can just leave it going in the background. I almost always run I see it may have been a bit optimistic... hehe my updates in a screen session, and if I'm working at the same time, nice'd 19 (nice -n 19 emerge world) Well, my good fortune to run it full throttle since I have lots of work outside this morning. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: A Gentoo Firewall howto?
Mark Shields laebshade at gmail.com writes: I know you mentioned easing the pain, but good old iptables worked for me - along with http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml - after using that initial setup and becoming somewhat familiar with iptables, I was able to modify a script to suit my needs, a 49-line file that gets what I need done. Well, I was going to follow this howto and try to figure out how to add the dmz later. Since it's a firewall, I decided to use: http://open-systems.ufl.edu/mirrors/gentoo/experimental/x86/hardened/livecd Problem is it gives many options. I'm going to select: grsec-noX and then try to use this web page on home-router. Maybe when some folks 'get lucky' we can spin a version of this page that address a DMZ with web servers and dns servers, call it the home-office version. I'm sure I'll be whinning on the list, when I do something stupid... James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I burn DVD with k3b ?
В сообщении от Суббота 27 августа 2005 18:52 Holly Bostick написал(a): Makurin Roman schreef: Hi all! How can I burn dvd with k3b ? I emerge this with dvdr use flag, but what I need to do to write dvd ? 10nx Open k3b, choose one of the DVD project types from either 1. The big buttons on the lower half of the main screen 2. The button bar under the menu bar 3. The menu (File= New Project = New Video/Data/eMovix DVD project, depending on what type of DVD you're trying to create) Thanks a lot! I found DVD data project, but it accessible only in menu bar :-) If you are burning a DVD ISO, you can just choose Tools=Burn DVD image to do so. Once you have opened a new project type, drag the files you want to burn from the file browser above to the project window below. Then select 'burn' from either the menu, the main button bar, or the project button bar. What type of DVD are you trying to burn, and what is the problem that you are having doing so? Holly -- Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 105266647 pgpvUCsqK4k6C.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] hardened install
Hello, http://open-systems.ufl.edu/mirrors/gentoo/experimental/x86/hardened/livecd/ is what I'm using to install a base system, later on a complete firewall/router. The K6 booted find with the grsec-noX option, but it prompts me for a login and password right off the bat. These did not work: root root admin admin gentoo gentoo root gentoo root hardened Any ideas what the cd uses for the root passwd. Note I did not set this up, the install CD booted up this way. I cannont manually setup the ethernet, if I cannot go root Ideas? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I burn DVD with k3b ?
Makurin Roman schreef: Thanks a lot! I found DVD data project, but it accessible only in menu bar :-) If you right-click on the lower half of the main screen (where it says Welcome to K3B, and has the buttons for fast project choice), you can add and remove buttons; if you go to the 'Options' menu, and choose 'Configure Toolbar' (or 'Toolbar Options', my desktop is in Dutch, so I don't know quite what it says in English), you can add and remove the appropriate buttons to your toolbar. This is one instance where knowing that KDE and KDE apps are insanely configurable, in terms of the GUI presented, comes in quite handy. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Proposed option for etc-update
90% of the time I've broken a Gentoo install has involved etc-update and admittedly myself doing something stupid. I've since developed the habit of tarring the /etc directory before running update. So I was thinking it would be nice to have a -B option for etc-update which creates /somewhere/logical/etc.tar.gz before running etc-update. Of course this wouldn't be complete without a --restore option which overwrites the existing /etc with the last created etc.tar.gz thus giving us goofs a unlimited amount of chances to get it right. Any thoughts? -jm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Proposed option for etc-update
On 27 August 2005 18:44 Joe Menola wrote : So I was thinking it would be nice to have a -B option for etc-update which creates /somewhere/logical/etc.tar.gz before running etc-update. Why not use dispatch-conf instead? HTH k.o.schultz -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Proposed option for etc-update
Joe writes: So I was thinking it would be nice to have a -B option for etc-update which creates /somewhere/logical/etc.tar.gz before running etc-update. Of course this wouldn't be complete without a --restore option which overwrites the existing /etc with the last created etc.tar.gz thus giving us goofs a unlimited amount of chances to get it right. Any thoughts? Try dispatch-conf instead of etc-update. When use_rcs ist set to yes in /etc/dispatch-conf.conf, and rcs is emerged, you get a backup of each file. Alex -- Alex Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key available [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SpamAssassin is letting everything through
Jarry wrote: I've trained it with sa-learn on a whole slew of ham and spam and it continues to let through nearly all the spam coming in. BTW, in which form do all emails have to be in order to use them as examples for spamassassin-learning? mbox (all mails in 1 file), or maildir (every mail is a separate file)? Or both are acceptable? Either. By default, SpamAssassin will assume path given is a Maildir folder, unless passed with the -mbox statement. What about MUA mail-folders? Can I use them? I have a lot of mails in mozilla/thunderbird mail-folder format, which is (I think) very close to mbox (every mailfolder is one file, e.g. one file for all Sent mails, etc), but I'm not sure if spamassassin would understand it as many mails in one file, separated by newline and From - date line... So long as it's in the mbox style, SpamAssassin will work with it. I do remember seeing some references to the Thunderbird mail system, so I think it should be OK. -- Jonathan Wright ~ mail at djnauk.co.uk ~ www.djnauk.co.uk -- 2.6.12-gentoo-r9-djnauk-b1 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 Mobile CPU 1.80GHz up 2:58, 2 users, load average: 3.26, 1.86, 1.06 -- Trust a nitwit society like this one to think that there are only two categories - fag and straight. ~ Gore Vidal -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Proposed option for etc-update
On Saturday August 27 2005 11:57 am, Kai Ole Schultz wrote: On 27 August 2005 18:44 Joe Menola wrote : So I was thinking it would be nice to have a -B option for etc-update which creates /somewhere/logical/etc.tar.gz before running etc-update. Why not use dispatch-conf instead? First I've heard of it, thanks (you and Alex) I'll check it out. For other curious folk... http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=184107start=0postdays=0postorder=aschighlight=dispatchconf -jm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xcdroast - gone?
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 23:29:07 -0700, Ted Ozolins wrote: On a new install I tried to emerge xcdroast but I receive 404 no such file. Checking for distfiles on various mirrors, I can not find any trace of it. Has xcdroast been dropped by gentoo? Which version? i just tried emerge -f xcdroast and it immediately started downloading xcdroast-0.98alpha15.tar.gz from the first mirror it tried, nchc.dl.sourceforge.net. Is your portage tree up to date? Maybe you are trying to download an old version. I did an emerge sync prior to xcdroast. Gave up on it and emerged k3b instead. I'll have to look into this a bit more. Thanks. -- Ted Ozolins(VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] browser,news,mail
I've just completed setting up x server and gnome (why gnome - I'm a relic of *nix and Motif and gnome sort of reminds me of the older look and feel). gnome installs mozilla by default, which has browsing, news, and mail. How does this stack up against Firefox? I've seen a lot of press about using one or the other, but I'm trying to get a feel for why. Is one better suited to Gentoo than the other? (This particular box is used primarily for business apps and remote webserver/site tweaking when needed). Thanks for the input. John D -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail
I just found some docs on this that say Large organizations that require an integrated suite (past Netscape Communicator users) should consider moving towards Mozilla 1.7. All others should consider upgrading to Firefox and Thunderbird. So, I guess the question becomes, can I unmerge Mozilla and emerge Firefox and Thunderbird? Or do they need to see Mozilla libs somewhere, since they're offered by the same org? Thanks for the input. John D -Original Message- From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 1:33 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail I've just completed setting up x server and gnome (why gnome - I'm a relic of *nix and Motif and gnome sort of reminds me of the older look and feel). gnome installs mozilla by default, which has browsing, news, and mail. How does this stack up against Firefox? I've seen a lot of press about using one or the other, but I'm trying to get a feel for why. Is one better suited to Gentoo than the other? (This particular box is used primarily for business apps and remote webserver/site tweaking when needed). Thanks for the input. John D -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail
To me it depends on what you want/need/like. I don't like Mozilla because it has everything in one package. I like to be able to use Firefox as the browser and other programs for news and mail. On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, John Dangler wrote: I've just completed setting up x server and gnome (why gnome - I'm a relic of *nix and Motif and gnome sort of reminds me of the older look and feel). gnome installs mozilla by default, which has browsing, news, and mail. How does this stack up against Firefox? I've seen a lot of press about using one or the other, but I'm trying to get a feel for why. Is one better suited to Gentoo than the other? (This particular box is used primarily for business apps and remote webserver/site tweaking when needed). Thanks for the input. John D -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Get rid of PAM?
Willie Wong wrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 07:26:55AM -0700, Jerry Turba wrote: On another gentoo newsgroup I made a comment about deleting pam because I believed it was causing a problem with logins to KDE. I was severely PAM has been known to cause pain and suffering at unexpected times. 1. Could someone explain why pam would not be needed? Is relying on permissions, passwords, and firewall adequate? Which problems may result for using pam? PAM is pluggable authentication module. It deals with passwords and permissions. It is useful because it provides a unified framework for dealing with such things, i.e., programs can do authentications/permissions without worrying about the implementation. With PAM, you can do cool tricks like implementing biometrics for an entire system without having to resort to adding support for biometrics for every single service. With that said, if you are only running home computers with no servers open to the outside world, you should only have a minimal number of programs that use authentication: login, or perhaps an ssh daemon that only opens to the intranet. You don't necessarily need PAM. The biggest problem I've heard is PAM creating a permissions hell in /dev. But usually that's due to bad configuration between PAM and udev. If done right, PAM shouldn't cause problems. But, for me, I decided to remove PAM after the following happened: One day, I ran emerge --update world. That included a PAM update. Two nights later, a power failure in my dorm power cycled the computer. The morning the day after, I cannot login on the Console. For no good reason whatsoever, console login always tells me it failed. BUT... I can still ssh to my box and login correctly. After some digging around in the logs, it seems that some things moved around in the PAM world and one particular module was renamed (or removed?). But one of the modules that used it, the one that is called when I try to login on the console, was not updated. So everytime I try to login, the module executes to the point where the missing module is, craps out, and tells me I can't login. For months after that, I was extremely careful whenever I update ANYTHING that has to do with authentication, and ALWAYS checked the PAM directories to make sure the modules are sane. Eventually I just got rid of it altogether. 2. I already have pam installed. What is the cleanest way to remove it without having any residual hiccoughs. http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Remove_PAM Follow it exactly. If you miss a step, you might have to whip out a liveCD the next time your reboot to get into your systems. The above link also contains a link to a thread on the forums discussing the pros and cons of PAM. Though I think in this particular thread the signal to noise ratio is rather low. W Thanks Willie and Marco for the ideas. I got the HOWTO and will read it and try it out. I wasn't aware that there was a gentoo wiki. Looks like lots of info there that I need to read. Thanks for the help. Jerry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Blocking package stops emerge now what?
On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 04:33:25PM +0200, Holly Bostick wrote: You likely should not have to. The idea of a BLOCK is that the new package either replaces the functionality of, or includes the functionality of, the currently installed program. True In this case, ftpbase installs the same functionality as vsftpd-- and may in fact create binaries with the same name, as gamin does for fam. You can't (apparently) have two ftp daemons installed at the same time, just as you can't have two file alteration monitors installed at the same time. That is wrong. ftpbase installs common ftp configuration files etc. It doesn't actually replace an ftp daemon. ftpbase and mailbase etc are an attempt to make it possible to switch the backend ftp and mail servers without changing other programs that depend on them. In the case of mail, think in line of providing the sendmail command for MTAs that do not normal provide the command. Calculating world dependencies ^H^H ...done! [blocks B ] net-ftp/vsftpd-2.0.3-r1 (is blocking net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00) note the less than sign in front of the net-ftp/vsftpd in that message This happens because NEWER versions of vsftp has a dependency on ftpbase while older versions don't. The proper course of action is: emerge -C vsftpd; emerge vsftpd That should pull in ftpbase as a requirement. HTH, W -- Look, look, it goes...no. ~DeathMech, Some Student. P-town PHY 205 Sortir en Pantoufles: up 15 days, 20:43 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Get rid of PAM?
Jerry Turba wrote: Thanks Willie and Marco for the ideas. I got the HOWTO and will read it and try it out. I wasn't aware that there was a gentoo wiki. Looks like lots of info there that I need to read. Thanks for the help. Hi, just for clarification so there is no confusion, my suggestion to pass init=/bin/bash to the kernel from grub/lilo on boot was only meant as an alternative to using a live-cd in case you brake your system authentication while removing pam. Using init=/bin/bash is probably a very bad way to replace any sort of authentication system, it's just useful as a way of starting up the system without running any sort of init scripts, mounting extra filesystems, loading kernel modules, etc... In case anyone reading this is interested in more info about the normal startup of the system (which is the implicit init=/sbin/init used if you don't supply an init parameter), there's more info here: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/sect_04_02.html The rest of the site www.tldp.org (The Linux Documentation Project) has great info on many things in the linux universe as well. Marco -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SpamAssassin is letting everything through
On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 04:47:57PM +0200, Jarry wrote: daniel wrote: I've trained it with sa-learn on a whole slew of ham and spam and it continues to let through nearly all the spam coming in. BTW, in which form do all emails have to be in order to use them as examples for spamassassin-learning? mbox (all mails in 1 file), or maildir (every mail is a separate file)? Or both are acceptable? I know mbox works since I've been using it. I don't know whether maildir works, but it is likely it does. What about MUA mail-folders? Can I use them? I have a lot of mails in mozilla/thunderbird mail-folder format, which is (I think) very close to mbox (every mailfolder is one file, e.g. one file for all Sent mails, etc), but I'm not sure if spamassassin would understand it as many mails in one file, separated by newline and From - date line... Isn't that what mbox is? a blankline and From - date? If the actual storage format is like that, I don't see why SpamAssassin won't work. W -- Do you all understand? At this point I'll settle for quiet acquiescence. ~DeathMech, S. Sondhi. P-town PHY 205 Sortir en Pantoufles: up 15 days, 20:51 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail
You can unmerge them. I never had Mozilla on my system and Firefox and Thunderbird work well. If you have some valuable emails in Mozilla's mailbox be sure you can access them later. On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, John Dangler wrote: I just found some docs on this that say Large organizations that require an integrated suite (past Netscape Communicator users) should consider moving towards Mozilla 1.7. All others should consider upgrading to Firefox and Thunderbird. So, I guess the question becomes, can I unmerge Mozilla and emerge Firefox and Thunderbird? Or do they need to see Mozilla libs somewhere, since they're offered by the same org? Thanks for the input. John D -Original Message- From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 1:33 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail I've just completed setting up x server and gnome (why gnome - I'm a relic of *nix and Motif and gnome sort of reminds me of the older look and feel). gnome installs mozilla by default, which has browsing, news, and mail. How does this stack up against Firefox? I've seen a lot of press about using one or the other, but I'm trying to get a feel for why. Is one better suited to Gentoo than the other? (This particular box is used primarily for business apps and remote webserver/site tweaking when needed). Thanks for the input. John D -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail
Brett~ Thanks for the reply. I did find some additional information about these that tells me I should be using Firefox and Thunderbird... The USE flags on portage for thunderbird don't require gnupg, but I noticed in Mozilla mail that in order to use encrypted mail, Mozilla mail wanted it. Is there a gnupg USE flag that will emerge Thunderbird with this feature built-in? John D -Original Message- From: Brett I. Holcomb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 1:42 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail To me it depends on what you want/need/like. I don't like Mozilla because it has everything in one package. I like to be able to use Firefox as the browser and other programs for news and mail. On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, John Dangler wrote: I've just completed setting up x server and gnome (why gnome - I'm a relic of *nix and Motif and gnome sort of reminds me of the older look and feel). gnome installs mozilla by default, which has browsing, news, and mail. How does this stack up against Firefox? I've seen a lot of press about using one or the other, but I'm trying to get a feel for why. Is one better suited to Gentoo than the other? (This particular box is used primarily for business apps and remote webserver/site tweaking when needed). Thanks for the input. John D -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail
John Dangler schreef: I just found some docs on this that say Large organizations that require an integrated suite (past Netscape Communicator users) should consider moving towards Mozilla 1.7. All others should consider upgrading to Firefox and Thunderbird. So, I guess the question becomes, can I unmerge Mozilla and emerge Firefox and Thunderbird? Or do they need to see Mozilla libs somewhere, since they're offered by the same org? The answer to your question is yes and no. Not because Firefox needs Mozilla to run (it doesn't), but because you have emerged the gnome meta-package, of which the Mozilla Suite is a (deep) dependency (because the full GNOME installation installs GNOME's web browser, Epiphany, which directly depends on Mozilla). So if you uninstall Mozilla now, you will 1) break Epiphany, and 2) break the meta-package. GNOME will still work, except for Epiphany, but Portage will at some point become aware that one of the dependencies for one of your installed applications-- in this case, the gnome meta-package-- has been uninstalled. Which is, of course, not cool as far as Portage is concerned, so it will, of course, attempt to reinstall Mozilla at every opportunity. Which is kind of a PITA, if you went to all the trouble to uninstall it in the first place. The solution? Replace the 'gnome' metapackage with the 'gnome-light' metapackage, which installs a full GNOME desktop, without the applications that could be considered 'cruft', such as Mozilla, sound-juicer, Totem, Evolution (and Evolution Data Server) and GStreamer. How do you switch when GNOME is already installed? 1) emerge -C gnome. This will *not* unmerge any applications, just the metapackage itself, thereby orphaning the dependencies that you want to uninstall. 2) emerge -C the 'extra' programs you don't want (Mozilla, Epiphany, Evo, EDS, Totem, Sound Juicer, whatever). Also make sure that your USE flags conform to your choices (add -mozilla, and also -eds if you don't want evolution-data-server to be re-emerged when you upgrade gnome-panel). 3) emerge gnome-light This will not emerge anything new (unless you ripped out Nautilus or something in your purge ;) ), but will 'adopt' all the orphaned GNOME desktop dependencies that were orphaned by your unmerge of the gnome meta-package, so when you next emerge -uDv world, if there are updates to GNOME, they will be picked up (because they are dependencies of the gnome-light package). Hope this helps, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail
Holly~ I wish I had know this before emerging gnome... :( What I may do (just because gnome is such a pig on compilation) is emerge firefox and thunderbird, and leave it as-is. I may as well explore the apps that gnome has been so gracious to include, and then, when I've discovered which are useful and which aren't, I can go back, unmerge gnome, and emerge gnome-light and build in what I want to use... The crux of the issue is that there are thousands of packages in portage that we (as noob's) don't really know what they are (or what they mean, since the names are a little cryptic at times), so we plow ahead with what we think we want, only to discover scenarios just like the one I'm in now. If it doesn't already exist, I'm thinking of trying to build a set of pages that gives a friendlier look and feel to portage... PACKAGE STABLE OTHER Thunderbird Mail/News Client1.0.6-r21.0.6-r3 1.0.6-r4 1.0.6-r5 (HARD MASKED) Selecting the package name would bring up a page that shows all of the information... LONG DESCRIPTION COMMENTS USE FLAGS DEPENDENCIES/REVERSE DEPENDENCIES SCREENSHOTS BUGS CHANGELOG STABLE w/link OTHER w/link I don't know how far this can go, since some of the packages may not be able to be named so succinctly, but it may be worth a shot... John D -Original Message- From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 2:45 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail John Dangler schreef: I just found some docs on this that say Large organizations that require an integrated suite (past Netscape Communicator users) should consider moving towards Mozilla 1.7. All others should consider upgrading to Firefox and Thunderbird. So, I guess the question becomes, can I unmerge Mozilla and emerge Firefox and Thunderbird? Or do they need to see Mozilla libs somewhere, since they're offered by the same org? The answer to your question is yes and no. Not because Firefox needs Mozilla to run (it doesn't), but because you have emerged the gnome meta-package, of which the Mozilla Suite is a (deep) dependency (because the full GNOME installation installs GNOME's web browser, Epiphany, which directly depends on Mozilla). So if you uninstall Mozilla now, you will 1) break Epiphany, and 2) break the meta-package. GNOME will still work, except for Epiphany, but Portage will at some point become aware that one of the dependencies for one of your installed applications-- in this case, the gnome meta-package-- has been uninstalled. Which is, of course, not cool as far as Portage is concerned, so it will, of course, attempt to reinstall Mozilla at every opportunity. Which is kind of a PITA, if you went to all the trouble to uninstall it in the first place. The solution? Replace the 'gnome' metapackage with the 'gnome-light' metapackage, which installs a full GNOME desktop, without the applications that could be considered 'cruft', such as Mozilla, sound-juicer, Totem, Evolution (and Evolution Data Server) and GStreamer. How do you switch when GNOME is already installed? 1) emerge -C gnome. This will *not* unmerge any applications, just the metapackage itself, thereby orphaning the dependencies that you want to uninstall. 2) emerge -C the 'extra' programs you don't want (Mozilla, Epiphany, Evo, EDS, Totem, Sound Juicer, whatever). Also make sure that your USE flags conform to your choices (add -mozilla, and also -eds if you don't want evolution-data-server to be re-emerged when you upgrade gnome-panel). 3) emerge gnome-light This will not emerge anything new (unless you ripped out Nautilus or something in your purge ;) ), but will 'adopt' all the orphaned GNOME desktop dependencies that were orphaned by your unmerge of the gnome meta-package, so when you next emerge -uDv world, if there are updates to GNOME, they will be picked up (because they are dependencies of the gnome-light package). Hope this helps, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail
default gnupg (Enigmail) integration with Thunderbird was removed recently because of trouble with the build. from the ebuild: ewarn Enigmail Support has been dropped since it doesn't work on fresh install. ewarn The Gentoo Mozilla team is working on making enigmail its own build, ewarn sorry for the inconvenience. For now, you can download enigmail from ewarn http://enigmail.mozdev.org; --myk John Dangler wrote: Brett~ Thanks for the reply. I did find some additional information about these that tells me I should be using Firefox and Thunderbird... The USE flags on portage for thunderbird don't require gnupg, but I noticed in Mozilla mail that in order to use encrypted mail, Mozilla mail wanted it. Is there a gnupg USE flag that will emerge Thunderbird with this feature built-in? John D -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cannot load libc, permission denied
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 15:44:47 -0700 David Busby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A. Khattri wrote: On Fri, 26 Aug 2005, David Busby wrote: cdrtx / # fcrontab -e fcrontab: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: Permission denied But libc looks OK to me cdrtx / # ls -l /lib/libc* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1211416 Aug 20 22:36 /lib/libc-2.3.5.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Aug 20 22:36 /lib/libc.so.6 - libc-2.3.5.so cdrtx / # ldd /usr/bin/crontab linux-gate.so.1 = (0xe000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7ec4000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x8000) Looks fine! What's the deal? But it's fcrontab that's having the problems. Why did you do the ldd on crontab? What is fcrontab anyway and where does it come from? -- Ian. EOM -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail
Myk~ I just got that message... I went to enigmail.mozdev.org Current version showing release is v0.92.0 There is an article on the right side that says 0.90.2 - Use this with Thunderbird 1.0.2 The latest stable version of Thunderbird in portage is 1.0.5 ... hmm... So, which version should be used to install from mozdev? John D -Original Message- From: Myk Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 3:14 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail default gnupg (Enigmail) integration with Thunderbird was removed recently because of trouble with the build. from the ebuild: ewarn Enigmail Support has been dropped since it doesn't work on fresh install. ewarn The Gentoo Mozilla team is working on making enigmail its own build, ewarn sorry for the inconvenience. For now, you can download enigmail from ewarn http://enigmail.mozdev.org; --myk John Dangler wrote: Brett~ Thanks for the reply. I did find some additional information about these that tells me I should be using Firefox and Thunderbird... The USE flags on portage for thunderbird don't require gnupg, but I noticed in Mozilla mail that in order to use encrypted mail, Mozilla mail wanted it. Is there a gnupg USE flag that will emerge Thunderbird with this feature built-in? John D -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail
Ouch! I just came across this in the release notes for enigmail... Enigmail needs to be compiled using the same environment as the Thunderbird or Mozilla Suite you are about to install it on. This usually means that you should either use the official binary builds of both (the Mozilla application and Enigmail) - or only use packages provided by your distribution - or build both manually. For example if you use a distribution Thunderbird package with the official Enigmail build, you will encounter problems! Enigmail is only tested against the milestone releases of Thunderbird, Mozilla and Netscape. If you use a nightly, third-party or own build Enigmail may not always work and may even crash the application! maybe sticking with Mozilla suite until this gets figured out isn't so bad... John D -Original Message- From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 3:08 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail Holly~ I wish I had know this before emerging gnome... :( What I may do (just because gnome is such a pig on compilation) is emerge firefox and thunderbird, and leave it as-is. I may as well explore the apps that gnome has been so gracious to include, and then, when I've discovered which are useful and which aren't, I can go back, unmerge gnome, and emerge gnome-light and build in what I want to use... The crux of the issue is that there are thousands of packages in portage that we (as noob's) don't really know what they are (or what they mean, since the names are a little cryptic at times), so we plow ahead with what we think we want, only to discover scenarios just like the one I'm in now. If it doesn't already exist, I'm thinking of trying to build a set of pages that gives a friendlier look and feel to portage... PACKAGE STABLE OTHER Thunderbird Mail/News Client1.0.6-r21.0.6-r3 1.0.6-r4 1.0.6-r5 (HARD MASKED) Selecting the package name would bring up a page that shows all of the information... LONG DESCRIPTION COMMENTS USE FLAGS DEPENDENCIES/REVERSE DEPENDENCIES SCREENSHOTS BUGS CHANGELOG STABLE w/link OTHER w/link I don't know how far this can go, since some of the packages may not be able to be named so succinctly, but it may be worth a shot... John D -Original Message- From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 2:45 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail John Dangler schreef: I just found some docs on this that say Large organizations that require an integrated suite (past Netscape Communicator users) should consider moving towards Mozilla 1.7. All others should consider upgrading to Firefox and Thunderbird. So, I guess the question becomes, can I unmerge Mozilla and emerge Firefox and Thunderbird? Or do they need to see Mozilla libs somewhere, since they're offered by the same org? The answer to your question is yes and no. Not because Firefox needs Mozilla to run (it doesn't), but because you have emerged the gnome meta-package, of which the Mozilla Suite is a (deep) dependency (because the full GNOME installation installs GNOME's web browser, Epiphany, which directly depends on Mozilla). So if you uninstall Mozilla now, you will 1) break Epiphany, and 2) break the meta-package. GNOME will still work, except for Epiphany, but Portage will at some point become aware that one of the dependencies for one of your installed applications-- in this case, the gnome meta-package-- has been uninstalled. Which is, of course, not cool as far as Portage is concerned, so it will, of course, attempt to reinstall Mozilla at every opportunity. Which is kind of a PITA, if you went to all the trouble to uninstall it in the first place. The solution? Replace the 'gnome' metapackage with the 'gnome-light' metapackage, which installs a full GNOME desktop, without the applications that could be considered 'cruft', such as Mozilla, sound-juicer, Totem, Evolution (and Evolution Data Server) and GStreamer. How do you switch when GNOME is already installed? 1) emerge -C gnome. This will *not* unmerge any applications, just the metapackage itself, thereby orphaning the dependencies that you want to uninstall. 2) emerge -C the 'extra' programs you don't want (Mozilla, Epiphany, Evo, EDS, Totem, Sound Juicer, whatever). Also make sure that your USE flags conform to your choices (add -mozilla, and also -eds if you don't want evolution-data-server to be re-emerged when you upgrade gnome-panel). 3) emerge gnome-light This will not emerge anything new (unless you ripped out Nautilus or something in your purge ;) ), but will 'adopt' all the orphaned GNOME desktop dependencies that were orphaned by your unmerge of the gnome meta-package, so when you next emerge -uDv world, if there are
[gentoo-user] cannot load libc, permission denied
Ok, two combined into one here:
A. Khattri asked if I was logged in as root, yes I am.
and
When I said this:
cdrtx / # ldd /usr/bin/crontab
linux-gate.so.1 = (0xe000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7ec4000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x8000)
Ian Hastie said:
But it's fcrontab that's having the problems. Why did you do the ldd
on crontab? What is fcrontab anyway and where does it come from?
Well, I did the ldd on crontab, cause crontab is the command I use to edit the crontab files, like `crontab -e`. My
cron daemon of choice is fcron, A command scheduler with extended capabilities over cron and anacron. An on systems
that use fcron we have this:
cdrtx cdr_tx # ls -l /usr/bin/crontab
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Aug 26 23:45 /usr/bin/crontab - fcrontab
So fcrontab is the fcron version of crontab symlinked to look like plain ass
crontab. It comes with the fcron package.
Anywho...after rebuilding glibc and fcron I'm still having the same issue:
cdrtx cdr_tx # crontab -e
crontab: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared
object file: Permission denied
But I can still say things like:
cdrtx cdr_tx # strings /lib/libc.so.6 |wc -l
4494
Which prove to me that I can both open and read the /lib/libc.so.6 file.
So then I tried strace, like this:
cdrtx cdr_tx # strace crontab -e
execve(/usr/bin/crontab, [crontab, -e], [/* 31 vars */]) = 0
uname({sys=Linux, node=cdrtx, ...}) = 0
brk(0) = 0x8052000
fcntl64(0, F_GETFD) = 0
fcntl64(1, F_GETFD) = 0
fcntl64(2, F_GETFD) = 0
access(/etc/suid-debug, F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
access(/etc/ld.so.preload, R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/etc/ld.so.cache, O_RDONLY) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
open(/lib/tls/i686/sse2/libc.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
stat64(/lib/tls/i686/sse2, 0xbfd3ab48) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
open(/lib/tls/i686/libc.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
stat64(/lib/tls/i686, 0xbfd3ab48) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
open(/lib/tls/sse2/libc.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
stat64(/lib/tls/sse2, 0xbfd3ab48) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
open(/lib/tls/libc.so.6, O_RDONLY)= -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
stat64(/lib/tls, 0xbfd3ab48) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
open(/lib/i686/sse2/libc.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
stat64(/lib/i686/sse2, 0xbfd3ab48)= -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
open(/lib/i686/libc.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
stat64(/lib/i686, 0xbfd3ab48) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
open(/lib/sse2/libc.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
stat64(/lib/sse2, 0xbfd3ab48) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
open(/lib/libc.so.6, O_RDONLY)= -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
stat64(/lib, 0xbfd3ab48) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
open(/usr/lib/tls/i686/sse2/libc.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 EACCES (Permission
denied)
stat64(/usr/lib/tls/i686/sse2, 0xbfd3ab48) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
open(/usr/lib/tls/i686/libc.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
stat64(/usr/lib/tls/i686, 0xbfd3ab48) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
open(/usr/lib/tls/sse2/libc.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
stat64(/usr/lib/tls/sse2, 0xbfd3ab48) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
open(/usr/lib/tls/libc.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
stat64(/usr/lib/tls, 0xbfd3ab48) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
open(/usr/lib/i686/sse2/libc.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
stat64(/usr/lib/i686/sse2, 0xbfd3ab48) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
open(/usr/lib/i686/libc.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
stat64(/usr/lib/i686, 0xbfd3ab48) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
open(/usr/lib/sse2/libc.so.6, O_RDONLY) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
stat64(/usr/lib/sse2, 0xbfd3ab48) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
open(/usr/lib/libc.so.6, O_RDONLY)= -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
stat64(/usr/lib, 0xbfd3ab48) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
writev(2, [{crontab, 7}, {: , 2}, {error while loading shared libra..., 36}, {: , 2}, {libc.so.6, 9}, {: ,
2}, {cannot open shared object file, 30}, {: , 2}, {Permission denied, 17}, {\n, 1}], 10crontab: error while
loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: Permission denied
) = 108
exit_group(127) = ?
I cannot open /etc/ld.so.cache! What? See:
cdrtx cdr_tx # ls -l /etc/ld.so.cache
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18311 Aug 27 21:13 /etc/ld.so.cache
Should be able to read that as well, root nor anyother use cannot run crontab. My fcron.allow,deny and conf files all
look perfect and should allow any user at all to run.
Any other ideas?
/djb
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[gentoo-user] Can`t play dvd with xine based video players
Hi All! I`ve got segfaults everytime I trying to play DVD with xine-based dvd players like kaffeine or xine. - I`ve got installed: media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.0-r1 +X +a52 +aac +aalib +alsa (-altivec) -arts -cle266 -directfb -dts +dvd -dxr3 -esd +fbcon +flac -gnome -i8x0 +imagemagick +ipv6 -libcaca +mad +mng +nls +nvidia +opengl +oss +samba +sdl +speex +theora +v4l -vcd -vidix +vorbis +win32codecs -xinerama +xv +xvmc media-video/xine-ui-0.99.4-r2 +X +aalib +curl -libcaca +lirc +ncurses +nls +readline media-libs/libdvdcss-1.2.9 +doc -static media-libs/libdvdread-0.9.4-r1 -static - Here is xine`s messages (from console): [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ LANG=C xine dvd:/ This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.99.4. (c) 2000-2004 The xine Team. libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.9 for DVD access libdvdread: Attempting to retrieve all CSS keys libdvdread: This can take a _long_ time, please be patient libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.VOB at 0x014d libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.VOB at 0x04b3 libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB at 0x0523 libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_1.VOB at 0x0539 libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_03_1.VOB at 0x054e libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_04_1.VOB at 0x0562 libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_05_0.VOB at 0x2ba4 libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_05_1.VOB at 0x0002190b libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_06_0.VOB at 0x0020a117 libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_06_1.VOB at 0x0020a11c libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_07_1.VOB at 0x0020a132 libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_08_1.VOB at 0x0020a4af libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_09_1.VOB at 0x0020e183 libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_10_1.VOB at 0x0020e198 libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_11_1.VOB at 0x0020e1ac libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_12_1.VOB at 0x0020f0db libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Found 12 VTS's libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 xiTK received SIGSEGV signal, RIP. Aborted P.S.: My gcc FLAGS are soft - CFLAGS=-march=pentium3 -O2 -pipe -mfpmath=sse,387 -mmmx -msse CXXFLAGS=-march=pentium3 -O2 -pipe What I need to do ? :-) 10nx -- Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 105266647 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail
After some more reading, I decided to emerge Firefox and Thunderbird anyway... It installs fine, except it's really annoying that mousing over a menu selection turns the colors white on white... (developer's joke, perhaps) When I go to the extensions dialog, there aren't any. So, I seect Check for updates. Receive a dialog box saying Thunderbird is now checking for available updates... this may take a few minutes... Yeah - like 30 minutes and no updates. So I select Get More Extensions (since the extension dialog box is empty, I assume that it needs to go and 'find some'... It launches Firefox to an empty page... So, if my earlier reading is correct, Thunderbird is broke as far as enigmail is concerned, unless you download source packages for Firefox, Thunderbird, and enigmail... Has anyone had luck getting these modules to run together on Gentoo? Thanks for the input John D -Original Message- From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 4:01 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail Ouch! I just came across this in the release notes for enigmail... Enigmail needs to be compiled using the same environment as the Thunderbird or Mozilla Suite you are about to install it on. This usually means that you should either use the official binary builds of both (the Mozilla application and Enigmail) - or only use packages provided by your distribution - or build both manually. For example if you use a distribution Thunderbird package with the official Enigmail build, you will encounter problems! Enigmail is only tested against the milestone releases of Thunderbird, Mozilla and Netscape. If you use a nightly, third-party or own build Enigmail may not always work and may even crash the application! maybe sticking with Mozilla suite until this gets figured out isn't so bad... John D -Original Message- From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 3:08 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail Holly~ I wish I had know this before emerging gnome... :( What I may do (just because gnome is such a pig on compilation) is emerge firefox and thunderbird, and leave it as-is. I may as well explore the apps that gnome has been so gracious to include, and then, when I've discovered which are useful and which aren't, I can go back, unmerge gnome, and emerge gnome-light and build in what I want to use... The crux of the issue is that there are thousands of packages in portage that we (as noob's) don't really know what they are (or what they mean, since the names are a little cryptic at times), so we plow ahead with what we think we want, only to discover scenarios just like the one I'm in now. If it doesn't already exist, I'm thinking of trying to build a set of pages that gives a friendlier look and feel to portage... PACKAGE STABLE OTHER Thunderbird Mail/News Client1.0.6-r21.0.6-r3 1.0.6-r4 1.0.6-r5 (HARD MASKED) Selecting the package name would bring up a page that shows all of the information... LONG DESCRIPTION COMMENTS USE FLAGS DEPENDENCIES/REVERSE DEPENDENCIES SCREENSHOTS BUGS CHANGELOG STABLE w/link OTHER w/link I don't know how far this can go, since some of the packages may not be able to be named so succinctly, but it may be worth a shot... John D -Original Message- From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 2:45 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail John Dangler schreef: I just found some docs on this that say Large organizations that require an integrated suite (past Netscape Communicator users) should consider moving towards Mozilla 1.7. All others should consider upgrading to Firefox and Thunderbird. So, I guess the question becomes, can I unmerge Mozilla and emerge Firefox and Thunderbird? Or do they need to see Mozilla libs somewhere, since they're offered by the same org? The answer to your question is yes and no. Not because Firefox needs Mozilla to run (it doesn't), but because you have emerged the gnome meta-package, of which the Mozilla Suite is a (deep) dependency (because the full GNOME installation installs GNOME's web browser, Epiphany, which directly depends on Mozilla). So if you uninstall Mozilla now, you will 1) break Epiphany, and 2) break the meta-package. GNOME will still work, except for Epiphany, but Portage will at some point become aware that one of the dependencies for one of your installed applications-- in this case, the gnome meta-package-- has been uninstalled. Which is, of course, not cool as far as Portage is concerned, so it will, of course, attempt to reinstall Mozilla at every opportunity. Which is kind of a PITA, if you went to all the trouble to uninstall
Re: [gentoo-user] SuperMicro P4SCT+ and SATA
David Busby wrote: I'm trying to get 2005.1 onto this box I was just gifted. It's got a SuperMicro p4sct+ with a goofy SATA controller. I've got four hard drives in it, connected to these four SATA connectors (labeled like 1/5, 2/6, 3/7, 4/8). I guess i'm using them in 1,2,3,4 mode. But my gentoo cannot see the drives. lspci sees the controller *snip* It's that dang Marvell thing, I think. When it boots it says Adaptec-HOSTRAID something. There are also two other SATA connectors, seems that they connect to the Intel controller. Shouldn't ata_piix find it? Seems like it. What about a Marvell driver for the four drives, am I hosed? Any ideas? *snip* Hi David, AFAIK ata_piix.c is developed for intel SATA controllers integrated on PIIX chipsets only. Why do you expect it should support Adaptec or Marvell controllers too? U need some another driver for it, therefore start kernel configuration, have a look at SCSI device support --- SCSI low-level drivers --- [*] Serial ATA (SATA) support and find if something on next lines fits to your controller. If not, then ggle can be helpful to find it (if it exist). HTH, noro -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail
You're welcome. I'm not that up on Tbird. I used it briefly a long time ago on another Gentoo box but didn't like it so I went to Pine and I did not use encryption either. The only other install has been on a windows box that I used when both my Gentoo boxes were dead. When I get my main box back up I intend to use Tbird. Run ufed as root and see what flags there are or check the gentoo site - they have a list. Let us know how it goes. On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, John Dangler wrote: Brett~ Thanks for the reply. I did find some additional information about these that tells me I should be using Firefox and Thunderbird... The USE flags on portage for thunderbird don't require gnupg, but I noticed in Mozilla mail that in order to use encrypted mail, Mozilla mail wanted it. Is there a gnupg USE flag that will emerge Thunderbird with this feature built-in? John D -Original Message- From: Brett I. Holcomb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 1:42 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail To me it depends on what you want/need/like. I don't like Mozilla because it has everything in one package. I like to be able to use Firefox as the browser and other programs for news and mail. On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, John Dangler wrote: I've just completed setting up x server and gnome (why gnome - I'm a relic of *nix and Motif and gnome sort of reminds me of the older look and feel). gnome installs mozilla by default, which has browsing, news, and mail. How does this stack up against Firefox? I've seen a lot of press about using one or the other, but I'm trying to get a feel for why. Is one better suited to Gentoo than the other? (This particular box is used primarily for business apps and remote webserver/site tweaking when needed). Thanks for the input. John D -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SuperMicro P4SCT+ and SATA
Thank you, this was already solved. http://www.edoceo.com/liber/marvell-sata.php /djb Norbert Kamenicky wrote: David Busby wrote: *snip* Hi David, AFAIK ata_piix.c is developed for intel SATA controllers integrated on PIIX chipsets only. Why do you expect it should support Adaptec or Marvell controllers too? U need some another driver for it, therefore start kernel configuration, have a look at SCSI device support --- SCSI low-level drivers --- [*] Serial ATA (SATA) support and find if something on next lines fits to your controller. If not, then ggle can be helpful to find it (if it exist). HTH, noro -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] firefox crashing when printing
Firefox is now crashing whenever I print a page. Firefox gives its popup showing the status. When the status is complete, everything vanishes and nothing is printed. The error msg is not very helpful. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/doc $ firefox No running windows found (firefox-bin:9293): Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_property_get(): length value has wrapped in calculation (did you pass G_MAXLONG?) /usr/libexec/mozilla-launcher: line 116: 9293 Segmentation fault $mozbin $@ firefox-bin exited with non-zero status (139) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/doc $ I can print fine with mozilla and with ggv (and lpr of text files). I should note. 1. Recently an emerge --tree --ask --verbose --newuse --update --deep world brought in mozilla. I am not sure what change caused this. This might be the first time I printed since that emerge. 2. I emerged gnome-light a long time ago 3. I tried very recently to follow the gentoo-wiki on native windows printing. This was the first print after that attempt (but as listed above; only firefox printing has problems). thanks in advance for any help. allan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] gaim emerge error
I just tried emerging gaim and got this error: configure: WARNING: Could not find Tcl which is needed for the kadm5 tests configure: error: Could not find Tcl !!! Please attach the config.log to your bug report: !!! /var/tmp/portage/mit-krb5-1.4.1-r2/work/krb5-1.4.1/src/config.log !!! ERROR: app-crypt/mit-krb5-1.4.1-r2 failed. !!! Function econf, Line 485, Exitcode 0 !!! econf failed I have krb4 and tcltk set in the USE flags. I removed the tcltk flag from make.conf Everything seems to work ok now, except a message I got during the emerge said to do this: make sure to run revdep-rebuild . What exactly does this do? Should I still send the config.log file in as a bug? (I copied the log file to another location since I figured /tmp... anything would get overwritten) John D -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Any booby-traps with AMD64?
As regarding the partitioning, I would recommend using LVM2. Then no matter how you might mess up your partitioning in the beginning you can change it to suit your needs by resizing it on the fly - live - without rebooting or even unmounting. Check the official guide as well as gentoo-wiki.com for more about LVM2. fdisking is just so 1980's - even microsoft is using LVMs these days (forget what they call it though) - and they pretty much adopt ever hot technology absolutely dead last (IP, for example). -- 8^) Laterz- ~Alvin http://CoolAJ86.Havenite.net --- SlickC92: Dude, flex your pecs. CoolAJ86: Dude, what are pecs and how do you flex them? begin:vcard fn:Alvin A ONeal Jr n:ONeal;Alvin adr;dom:;;34 Fletcher Lane;Shelburne;VT;05482 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:1.802.877.2938 tel;home:1.802.985.5277 tel;cell:1.802.578.0599 note;quoted-printable:DoB: 19860616=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://coolaj86.havenite.net version:2.1 end:vcard
[gentoo-user] ssh/sftp oddness
List, When I use this Windows based SSH tool to connect to my new dev box with sftp it get's two dialogs about 'enter auth response' as if the sftp-subsystem is spitting out extra control characters. That's not a real big issue but what is that jEdit on Win or Lin cannot connect, it says authentication failure, but the logs on the dev box show that the jEdit was authenticated, odd. Where would it be spitting out these extras? How can I fix this? Has anyone else seen it? /djb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: bbgallery and template files
Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Getting it done this morning is another matter, going several months without an update is likely to put you a long way back, meaning lots to compile. Thankfully you can just leave it going in the background. I almost always run This appears now to have been a rather hefty understatement. I'm not sure what time this morning I started on this but its now 6:34 where I am and its still running strong. This seems a bit long Is this a normal amount of time for an update world to run (something like ten hours so far)? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] openofficeq
I know this isn't really the Gentoo (read - Linux) way, but, since I'm using this for business apps, I need to take the end users point of view for a moment. Open Office or the Ximianized Open Office. I read that Ximian was bought by Novell, so I'm wondering which of these two portage packages to get. www.ximian.org is no longer, apparently, so I'm wondering when this will turn into a commercial (read - for sale) product. I read that the ximianized version is faster to load and run, and I also read that open office takes a long time to compile, so I'd hate to put the Ximianized version together and then find out somewhere down the road that I'd have to dump it and go to the other version. Any insight here is greatly appreciated. I'm finally (after 3 days and nights) getting to the end of having a basic functioning laptop. John D -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A Gentoo Firewall howto?
I used this setup on a multi-purpose server I built from parts. It also functions as a ftp, http, sftp, ssh, vnc, samba server. Hey, have to put it to work somehow. On 8/27/05, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Shields laebshade at gmail.com writes: I know you mentioned easing the pain, but good old iptables worked for me - along with http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml - after using that initial setup and becoming somewhat familiar with iptables, I was able to modify a script to suit my needs, a 49-line file that gets what I need done. Well, I was going to follow this howto and try to figure out how to add the dmz later. Since it's a firewall, I decided to use: http://open-systems.ufl.edu/mirrors/gentoo/experimental/x86/hardened/livecd Problem is it gives many options. I'm going to select: grsec-noX and then try to use this web page on home-router. Maybe when some folks 'get lucky' we can spin a version of this page that address a DMZ with web servers and dns servers, call it the home-office version. I'm sure I'll be whinning on the list, when I do something stupid... James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- - Mark Shields -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bbgallery and template files
On 05/08/27 18:35, Harry Putnam wrote: Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Getting it done this morning is another matter, going several months without an update is likely to put you a long way back, meaning lots to compile. Thankfully you can just leave it going in the background. I almost always run This appears now to have been a rather hefty understatement. I'm not sure what time this morning I started on this but its now 6:34 where I am and its still running strong. This seems a bit long Is this a normal amount of time for an update world to run (something like ten hours so far)? Definitely if you've kept off an update for more than a month! Things like OpenOffice, KDE, glibc, and all the other behemoths take a while (like up to a couple of hours, depending on CPU) to compile each. So 10 hours is definitely not something to worry about. -- Regards, Patrick Börjesson PGP signature: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21792A5D PGP fingerprint: 74AF D4EF 6BDE CF77 16BE 6A29 CDB8 7607 2179 2A5D pgpdCNC25ZX9V.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] gpg
I setup gpg and also set up enigmail to use my key and signature. when I send an email message I get the following: Error - bad passphrase /usr/bin/gpg -charset utf8 -batch -no-tty -status-fd 2 -clearsign -digest-algo sha1 -u [EMAIL PROTECTED] -passphrase-fd 0 -no-use-agent gpg: skipped [EMAIL PROTECTED]: bad passphrase gpg: [stdin]: clearsign failed: bad passphrase any input, as always, is greatly appreciated. John D -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVB-T
I've never seen one. But there are a couple of options - Get a DV cam and use it for S-Video input through firewire (much more than your willing to pay). Get a used SGI Indy off E-bay or other source, put Gentoo MIPS on it. They have the VINO (Video In/Out) card working with a few patches to the kernel. Cost - US$75 to US$300, plus shipping. Bob - I don't think that it is a good idea: if I must acquire from an analog camcorder, I don't think that the double passage (from analog to digital and after acquire) can be a good compromise: the acquiring (and the DV camera with S-Video input are very expensive) is in real time. That means to use 2 hours to have a 1 hour video (ok that you can save the DV cassettes easier than dv Super 8 but...). The encoding of the DV camera cannot be good as a computer encoding (that has more power). I found a list of the TV cards (I need it to look TV too) in Internet and yesterday I said one of them in a shop (I didn't know who it was Linux compatible). This is the link: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page Thanks a lot in every case, Luigi -- Public key GPG(0x073A0960) on http://keyserver.linux.it/ pgpqxcvrBH5Kh.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] config qt theme without kde?
I am an XFCE user. Today I installed skype which use qt as its UI. However, the UI is ugly (tk-like). I find some very nice qt (or kde?) themes on kde-look.org, but I don't know how to install them without KDE Control Center. I don't want to install KDE anyway. Anyone can tell me how to manually install qt themes or give me a howto URL? I did google with qt theme install but have no luck. -- Qiangning Hong I'm usually annoyed by IDEs because, for instance, they don't use VIM as an editor. Since I'm hooked to that, all IDEs I've used so far have failed to impress me. -- Sybren Stuvel @ c.l.python Get Firefox! http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=67907amp;t=1 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] gpg
Ok. I found out that I have gpg setup right. I also know that if I enable passphrases for sending mail, and don't use the gpg agent in enigmail, mail works great! However, the docs for enigmail also say that you can set no passphrase for this user and set use gpg agent for passphrase management, but that borks. Anyone tried this successfully? As an OT question, I saw where you can upload your keys to a keyserver. Is that the preferred method of validating/trusting others ? John D -Original Message- From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 8:43 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] gpg I setup gpg and also set up enigmail to use my key and signature. when I send an email message I get the following: Error - bad passphrase /usr/bin/gpg -charset utf8 -batch -no-tty -status-fd 2 -clearsign -digest-algo sha1 -u [EMAIL PROTECTED] -passphrase-fd 0 -no-use-agent gpg: skipped [EMAIL PROTECTED]: bad passphrase gpg: [stdin]: clearsign failed: bad passphrase any input, as always, is greatly appreciated. John D -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] ftp
Can someone here recommend a good ftp app that I can use in gnome? Thanks. John D -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ftp
I like gftp...works in kde, too. On Saturday 27 August 2005 21:05, John Dangler wrote: Can someone here recommend a good ftp app that I can use in gnome? Thanks. John D -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ftp
On Saturday August 27 2005 9:08 pm, John Jolet wrote: I like gftp...works in kde, too. Ditto. -jm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] ftp
Thanks, John. After reading through the plethora of apps and googling til my eyes hurt, I think it's a good start... John D -Original Message- From: John Jolet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 10:09 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ftp I like gftp...works in kde, too. On Saturday 27 August 2005 21:05, John Dangler wrote: Can someone here recommend a good ftp app that I can use in gnome? Thanks. John D -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Proposed option for etc-update
ditch etc-update, dispatch-conf has backup features built in emerge gentoolkit dispatch-conf and while you're at it emerge eix eix some-package -- 8^) Laterz- ~Alvin http://CoolAJ86.Havenite.net --- If you can read this, thank an educator. begin:vcard fn:Alvin A ONeal Jr n:ONeal;Alvin adr;dom:;;34 Fletcher Lane;Shelburne;VT;05482 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:1.802.877.2938 tel;home:1.802.985.5277 tel;cell:1.802.578.0599 note;quoted-printable:DoB: 19860616=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://coolaj86.havenite.net version:2.1 end:vcard
[gentoo-user] [OT] Open Office USE flags
Anyone know why Open Office would require USE=”hardened” ? Or is this here to show that it can be installed in a hardened Gentoo environment? I noticed some postings based on people installing it with -hardened (and having problems), but I don't have a hardened Gentoo install and don't want this to bork, since I'm sure it will take a while to compile... Please reply if you can, I’ve been at emerging/compiling packages for the last 20 some hours and am finally at the end… ☺ Thanks. John D -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Any booby-traps with AMD64?
On 8/27/05, Alvin A ONeal Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As regarding the partitioning, I would recommend using LVM2. Then no matter how you might mess up your partitioning in the beginning you can change it to suit your needs by resizing it on the fly - live - without rebooting or even unmounting. Check the official guide as well as gentoo-wiki.com for more about LVM2. I'll second using LVM2. I had to read the documentation a couple times before I got it but it beats the old way of partitioning. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] ftp
my votes: wget ncftp On Sat, 2005-08-27 at 22:22 -0400, John Dangler wrote: Thanks, John. After reading through the plethora of apps and googling til my eyes hurt, I think it's a good start... John D -Original Message- From: John Jolet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 10:09 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ftp -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sub-net 0.0.0.0 [SOLVED]
On Sat, 2005-08-27 at 10:23 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:20:12 -0600, Joseph wrote: Is there a way to check what IP the device has on the network? I know the device MAC address and when I plug it IN, it obtains one of the IP via DHCP. With arp -a IP arp -e I can only check the MAC address. Is there a way to other way around. Try arp -a Very closed. but better yet is: Knowing MAC address but looking for IP tcpdump -e -i eth0 |grep -i 00:09:45:52:04:da Since I know the MAC address, the above command will capture the IP address of the device when plugged into the server. Knowing IP address but looking for MAC ping IP arp -e -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
