Re: [gentoo-user] grub over the top of Win XP
Glenn Enright wrote: On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 04:40, Mark Knecht wrote: The disk layout is like this (MBR) - Win XP /dev/hda1 - Win XP /dev/hda2 - extended partition /dev/hda5 - /boot /dev/hda6 - swap /dev/hda7 - / /dev/hda8 - /home grub root (hd0,4) grub setup (hd0) (Install GRUB in the MBR) grub quit Youve got the right idea, but hd0,4 is the logical holder for your linux partitions, not the boot partition that holds the grub files. So root is your /boot partition, ie hd0,5. /boot isn't hd0,5, its hd0,1 Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub over the top of Win XP
Mark Knecht wrote: The disk layout is like this (MBR) - Win XP /dev/hda1 - Win XP /dev/hda2 - extended partition /dev/hda5 - /boot /dev/hda6 - swap /dev/hda7 - / /dev/hda8 - /home Now, my question, where do I write grub? I believe it's into the MBR and not into partition 1, correct? If so I'd use: grub grub root (hd0,4) grub setup (hd0) (Install GRUB in the MBR) grub quit Is this correct? Not quite. At least you got the confusing numbering scheme right ;-) (hd0,4) would be your / partition. But grub expects the partition containing the grub installation files, which are located on /boot so it should be (hd0,2) Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple Displays nVida vs Radeon... take TWO
On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 11:55 +0800, W.Kenworthy wrote: I would be interested in a copy of your xorg.conf - its always good to see how the other guy does it ... Mine is at http://wdk.dyndns.org/xorg.conf.html Here's Mine. (note that The Dual Head is commented out. I don't use dual Monitor all that often :-) Only thing missing now is getting TV-Out to work. :-( Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard # Uncommenting this will enable Dual Head # Screen Screen1 LeftOf Screen0 # This will enable separate displays for Dual Head. # Option Clone Off # Do you want Xinerama?? # Option Xinerama On EndSection Section Files RgbPath /usr/lib/X11/rgb FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/TTF/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Speedo/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/CID/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/artwiz FontPath /usr/share/fonts/corefonts FontPath /usr/share/fonts/cyrillic FontPath /usr/share/fonts/encodings FontPath /usr/share/fonts/freefont FontPath /usr/share/fonts/local FontPath /usr/share/fonts/terminus FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ttf FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ukr FontPath /usr/share/fonts/unifont FontPath /usr/share/fonts/util EndSection Section Module Load dri Load glx Load type1 Load freetype EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol IMPS/2 Option Device /dev/input/mice Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 Option Emulate3Buttons yes EndSection Section Monitor #DisplaySize 290 210 # mm Identifier Monitor0 VendorName LGP ModelNameDELL 1400x1050 Laptop Display Panel Option dpms EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor1 Option DPMS EndSection Section Device ### Available Driver options are:- Option AGPMode 4 # Addded Ow Mun Heng - Jan 29 2005 # http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml?style=printable Option EnablePageFlip True Identifier Card0 Driver ati VendorName ATI Technologies Inc BoardName Radeon R250 Lf [Radeon Mobility 9000 M9] BusID PCI:1:0:0 Screen 0 EndSection Section Device Identifier Card1 Driver ati BoardName ATI Radeon BusID PCI:1:0:0 Option DPMS Screen 1 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorMonitor0 # Added Ow Mun Heng - Jan 7 2005 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen1 Device Card1 Monitor Monitor1 DefaultDepth24 Subsection Display Depth 24 Modes 1024x768 EndSubSection EndSection # Added Ow Mun Heng - Apr 10 2005 #Section Extensions # Option Composite Enable #EndSection # Added Ow Mun Heng - Nov 4 2004 Section dri Mode 0666 EndSection -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 14:54:19 up 1 day, 5:23, 7 users, load average: 0.83, 0.79, 0.62 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gst-plugins-alsa-0.8.11 compile failure
Hello, On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 08:50:33PM -0400 or thereabouts, R'twick Niceorgaw wrote: I was doing a emerge -u world and gst-plugins-alsa-0.8.11 failed. the last few messages on screen are --- configure: *** These plugins will not be built: xvid checking asm/atomic.h usability... yes checking asm/atomic.h presence... yes checking for asm/atomic.h... yes checking for freetype2 = 2.0.9... yes checking FT2_CFLAGS... -I/usr/include/freetype2 checking FT2_LIBS... -lfreetype -lz configure: Using GStreamer source release as package name configure: Using http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/ as package origin configure: error: conditional HAVE_XFIXES was never defined. Usually this means the macro was only invoked conditionally. !!! Please attach the config.log to your bug report: !!! /var/tmp/portage/gst-plugins-alsa-0.8.11/work/gst-plugins-0.8.11/config.log I had experienced the same problem and I have solved it by emerge sync to actual packages. Looks like some patch was missing there. Anyway I also recompiled media-libs/gst-plugins at first after sync. After that I was able to successfully compile gst-plugins-*. Cheers, Martin -- martin hudec * 421 907 303 393 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.aeternal.net Nothing travels faster than the speed of light with the possible exception of bad news, which obeys its own special laws. Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy pgpy2ncMaiMib.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] VPN question
Am Dienstag, den 06.09.2005, 08:32 -0700 schrieb gentuxx: [snip] Well, as long as you're not trying to establish the VPN tunnel over IPX, you can tunnel whatever you want. So, once you've established a VPN connection with another box, or a concentrator, it shouldn't matter what type of traffic goes through the tunnel. Sorry, but that's simply not true. IPX has no glue what to do with a TCP/IP based VPN tunnel. -- gentux echo hfouvyAdpy/ofu | perl -pe 's/(.)/chr(ord($1)-1)/ge' gentux's gpg fingerprint == 34CE 2E97 40C7 EF6E EC40 9795 2D81 924A 6996 0993 -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Heinz Sporn SPORN it-freelancing Mobile: ++43 (0)699 / 127 827 07 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.sporn-it.com Snail: Steyrer Str. 20 A-4540 Bad Hall Austria / Europe -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub over the top of Win XP
Am Dienstag, den 06.09.2005, 21:40 -0700 schrieb Mark Knecht: Hi, OK, the target machine is now rebuilt. I decided since I had to rebuild both WinXP and Gentoo that I'd just put them on the same hard drive. The Gentoo install is complete right up to the point where I run grub and write it somewhere and I want to make sure I understand the right way to do this. The disk layout is like this (MBR) - Win XP /dev/hda1 - Win XP /dev/hda2 - extended partition /dev/hda5 - /boot /dev/hda6 - swap /dev/hda7 - / /dev/hda8 - /home Now, my question, where do I write grub? I believe it's into the MBR and not into partition 1, correct? If so I'd use: grub grub root (hd0,4) LOL! Now you gave the poor guy at least three different numbers. One thing is right though: find /boot within Grub's numbering scheme. Instead of GUESSING try the following: 1. Enter grub as usual 2. Enter root ( and press tab. Grub lists the available disks / partitions 3. Select the one you're think is right. At the end of the line e.g. root (hd0,1) add / and press tab again. Grub now list the directory content of that root partition. If you found what you were looking for you're done - else continue with step 2. grub setup (hd0) (Install GRUB in the MBR) grub quit Is this correct? Thanks, Mark -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Heinz Sporn SPORN it-freelancing Mobile: ++43 (0)699 / 127 827 07 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.sporn-it.com Snail: Steyrer Str. 20 A-4540 Bad Hall Austria / Europe -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub over the top of Win XP
Christoph Gysin wrote: (hd0,4) would be your / partition. But grub expects the partition containing the grub installation files, which are located on /boot so it should be (hd0,2) stupid me, of course it should be (hd0,1) as mentioned in my other post. If you're confused now, go with Heinz's trial and error way ;-) Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub over the top of Win XP
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 09:23:50 +0200, Heinz Sporn wrote: The disk layout is like this (MBR) - Win XP /dev/hda1 - Win XP /dev/hda2 - extended partition /dev/hda5 - /boot /dev/hda6 - swap /dev/hda7 - / /dev/hda8 - /home Now, my question, where do I write grub? I believe it's into the MBR and not into partition 1, correct? If so I'd use: Correct, and /dev/hda5 is (hd0,4) despite all the conflicting advice you've been given. All my boxes have /boot on hda5 and all use hd0,4 (well, except the iBook which uses that horrible yaboot thing, anyone who wants to start a grub vs. lilo flame war should be made to use yaboot). LOL! Now you gave the poor guy at least three different numbers. One thing is right though: find /boot within Grub's numbering scheme. Instead of GUESSING try the following: 1. Enter grub as usual 2. Enter root ( and press tab. Grub lists the available disks / partitions 3. Select the one you're think is right. At the end of the line e.g. root (hd0,1) add / and press tab again. Grub now list the directory content of that root partition. If you found what you were looking for you're done - else continue with step 2. Or, enter grub and type find /grub/grub.conf or find /grub/menu.lst and all will be clear. -- Neil Bothwick TROI : What am I sensing?? I'm sensing INCOMPETENCE, you pretentious bald pseudo-French dickweed! pgpeF9MlgPSUI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 06:41:36 +0200, Martin S wrote: The main problem I feel is that lots of apps are written for a specific WM rather than a generic non-WM/DE-dependent API. Which makes the entire desktop look like bits and pieces the cat draged home (run Gimp, Kontact and Scid under KDE and you'll know what I mean). There was (is?) a setting in KDE to force *some* apps to bend to the theme of KDE, but that was buggy when I tried it last time. Each DE has its own set of design guidelines, while there isn't so much of a coherent overall standard. x11-themes/gtk-engines-qt can help with a consistent look, it seems stable nowadays. -- Neil Bothwick If it doesn't move, eat it. If it moves, kill it. Then eat it. pgplGGtCzBSOg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] grub over the top of Win XP
Neil Bothwick wrote: Correct, and /dev/hda5 is (hd0,4) despite all the conflicting advice you've been given. All my boxes have /boot on hda5 and all use hd0,4 (well, except the iBook which uses that horrible yaboot thing, anyone who wants to start a grub vs. lilo flame war should be made to use yaboot). Sorry for the confusing answers. I was pretty sure grub doesn't care wether your partions are primary or logical, giving each a number starting from 0. Appearantly this is *not* the case. From the docs: (hd0,1) Here, `hd' means it is a hard disk drive. The first integer `0' indicates the drive number, that is, the first hard disk, while the second integer, `1', indicates the partition number (or the PC slice number in the BSD terminology). Once again, please note that the partition numbers are counted from _zero_, not from one. This expression means the second partition of the first hard disk drive. In this case, GRUB uses one partition of the disk, instead of the whole disk. (hd0,4) This specifies the first extended partition of the first hard disk drive. Note that the partition numbers for extended partitions are counted from `4', regardless of the actual number of primary partitions on your hard disk. Hope this made things clearer now... Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Introducing RAID 1 into a running system
Hi all! I was wondering if it is possible to introduce RAID 1 (i.e. mirroring of a spare partition to be precise) into a running system? Let's assume there is a disk A with partitions A1 and A2. A1 carries a fully functional Gentoo, A2 is a spare partition. Kernel is 2.6.12.5 with Raid stuff enabled. Now I'd like to add a disk B (identical to disk A), duplicate the partition layout from A and start mirroring A2 to B2. Now let's also assume that A2 and B2 are set to partition type fd and that there's a matching /etc/raidtype like # /boot (RAID 1) raiddev /dev/md0 raid-level 1 nr-raid-disks 2 chunk-size 32 persistent-superblock 1 device A2 raid-disk 0 device B2 raid-disk 1 Question: may I run mkraid /dev/md0 on the fly now or will that somehow destroy the partition table on the entire disk A ? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Heinz Sporn SPORN it-freelancing Mobile: ++43 (0)699 / 127 827 07 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.sporn-it.com Snail: Steyrer Str. 20 A-4540 Bad Hall Austria / Europe -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub over the top of Win XP
Am Mittwoch, den 07.09.2005, 10:25 +0200 schrieb Christoph Gysin: Neil Bothwick wrote: Correct, and /dev/hda5 is (hd0,4) despite all the conflicting advice you've been given. All my boxes have /boot on hda5 and all use hd0,4 (well, except the iBook which uses that horrible yaboot thing, anyone who wants to start a grub vs. lilo flame war should be made to use yaboot). Sorry for the confusing answers. I was pretty sure grub doesn't care wether your partions are primary or logical, giving each a number starting from 0. Appearantly this is *not* the case. From the docs: Grub's a nasty hog, that's for sure (but still superior over Lilo IMHO). Another very important point to consider is that Grub looks at drive sequences from a BIOS perspective. Say you have disk 1 (primary IDE) and disk 2 (secondary IDE). When you boot Grub in sunshine mode it'll see disk 1 as hd0 and disk 2 as hd1. But if you jump into your BIOS and set disk 2 to your primary boot medium Grub will change it's perspective and match disk 2 to hd0. (hd0,1) Here, `hd' means it is a hard disk drive. The first integer `0' indicates the drive number, that is, the first hard disk, while the second integer, `1', indicates the partition number (or the PC slice number in the BSD terminology). Once again, please note that the partition numbers are counted from _zero_, not from one. This expression means the second partition of the first hard disk drive. In this case, GRUB uses one partition of the disk, instead of the whole disk. (hd0,4) This specifies the first extended partition of the first hard disk drive. Note that the partition numbers for extended partitions are counted from `4', regardless of the actual number of primary partitions on your hard disk. Hope this made things clearer now... Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Heinz Sporn SPORN it-freelancing Mobile: ++43 (0)699 / 127 827 07 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.sporn-it.com Snail: Steyrer Str. 20 A-4540 Bad Hall Austria / Europe -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Make a running process nohup?
Is it possible make a running process nohup so that I can leave it running after I logout without interrupt it? -- Qiangning Hong http://www.hn.org/hongqn (RSS: http://feeds.feedburner.com/hongqn) Registered Linux User #396996 Get Firefox! http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesid=67907t=1 Thunderbird! http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesid=67907t=183 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Out of order install - grub first
Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 14:15:56 -0700 Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, From experience I don't see this as a problem but I thought I'd ask. 1) I just installed Win XP 2) I'm going to install Gentoo 3) I plan to use grub to dual-boot Any reason I cannot install grub at the start of the Gentoo install process instead of at the end? This would allow me to check that Windows is still booting before I spend hours building the machine up with Gentoo only to run into some sort of an issue with the way I've got Windows on the box. you'll need to get to the point where you can compile grub - ie up to stage 3 probably. Not really. It can be installed from a live CD. -- Hilsen Harald. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] VPN question
On 07 September 2005 09:15, Heinz Sporn wrote: Am Dienstag, den 06.09.2005, 08:32 -0700 schrieb gentuxx: [snip] Well, as long as you're not trying to establish the VPN tunnel over IPX, you can tunnel whatever you want. So, once you've established a VPN connection with another box, or a concentrator, it shouldn't matter what type of traffic goes through the tunnel. Sorry, but that's simply not true. IPX has no glue what to do with a TCP/IP based VPN tunnel. ... and it doesn't need to. Gentuxx's answer above is correct. Uwe -- 95% of all programmers rate themselves among the top 5% of all software developers. - Linus Torvalds http://www.uwix.iway.na (last updated: 20.06.2004) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] VPN question
Am Mittwoch, den 07.09.2005, 11:39 +0200 schrieb Uwe Thiem: On 07 September 2005 09:15, Heinz Sporn wrote: Am Dienstag, den 06.09.2005, 08:32 -0700 schrieb gentuxx: [snip] Well, as long as you're not trying to establish the VPN tunnel over IPX, you can tunnel whatever you want. So, once you've established a VPN connection with another box, or a concentrator, it shouldn't matter what type of traffic goes through the tunnel. Sorry, but that's simply not true. IPX has no glue what to do with a TCP/IP based VPN tunnel. ... and it doesn't need to. Gentuxx's answer above is correct. Sucessfully creating a VPN tunnel of some sort does really not enable IPX traffic automagically. At least you have to establish ethernet bridging on both ends of the tunnel. Not that big a deal if you have two Linux boxes on both ends of the tunnel and run say OpenVPN. But I was under the impression that this is not the scenario here. Uwe -- 95% of all programmers rate themselves among the top 5% of all software developers. - Linus Torvalds http://www.uwix.iway.na (last updated: 20.06.2004) -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Heinz Sporn SPORN it-freelancing Mobile: ++43 (0)699 / 127 827 07 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.sporn-it.com Snail: Steyrer Str. 20 A-4540 Bad Hall Austria / Europe -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer and/or X optimization
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 03:15:51AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote does xine also have a speed problem? If yes: I don't have xine loaded. I've had problems building it in the past. mplayer has been trouble-free. could you please post xorg.conf/Xorg.0.log? Maybe they contain somethin obvious... To avoid cluttering up the list, I've posted them on my webpage; see http://www.waltdnes.org/xorg.conf.txt http://www.waltdnes.org/Xorg.0.log.txt According to the box, the card is a PowerColor X300 SE, with PCI Express and full DirectX 9 support. One thing I notice is at the very end of xorg.conf... # Section DRI #Mode 0666 # EndSection According to man radeon Option BusType string Used to replace previous ForcePCIMode option. Should only be used when driver's bus detection is incorrect or you want to force a AGP card to PCI mode. Should NEVER force a PCI card to AGP bus. PCI-- PCI bus AGP-- AGP bus PCIE -- PCI Express (falls back to PCI at present) (used only when DRI is enabled) The default is auto detect. I uncommented the 3 lines and in the video card section I added... Option BusType PCIE but it looks like it's not enabled. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist
Drew Tomlinson writes: I can't start xorg as /dev/input/mouse0 doesn't exist. I used to have this working with the same hardware and don't recall making any changes. What things must be loaded or what should I check to get my mouse detected? I'm using 2.6.11 kernel with udev. Nudges to an appropriate web page are welcome. I have been unsuccessful with Google. If you have a ps2 mouse, try /dev/psaux for the mouse in your xorg.conf file. Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Introducing RAID 1 into a running system
Heinz Sporn wrote: Question: may I run mkraid /dev/md0 on the fly now or will that somehow destroy the partition table on the entire disk A ? This wont't work since only data written to md0 gets mirrored. You can't mirror an existing partition. An mkraid will probably destroy partition A2. You'll have to unmount the partiton A2 and mount md0 at some time. There's no way to do this on the fly AFAIK. But theres still a little shortcut: First, let me recommend you mdadm. It's a replacement for the old raidtools. *Much* better IMHO. - Create a new RAID1 in degraded state from B2: # mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level 1 --raid-devices 2 /dev/B2 missing - Copy contents from A2 to md0 - umount A2 - add A2 to md0: # mdadm /dev/md0 --add /dev/A2 Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Introducing RAID 1 into a running system
On Wednesday 07 September 2005 12:58, Christoph Gysin wrote: First, let me recommend you mdadm. It's a replacement for the old raidtools. *Much* better IMHO. VERY much so. - Create a new RAID1 in degraded state from B2: # mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level 1 --raid-devices 2 /dev/B2 missing - Copy contents from A2 to md0 - umount A2 - add A2 to md0: # mdadm /dev/md0 --add /dev/A2 Quicker method :) create B1 and B2 umount /dev/A2 # mdadm --create /dev/md0 -l1 -n2 /dev/A2 /dev/B2 You CAN create a mirror of an existing partition, and NOT lose data. I know, I've done it. You can also re-create an existing array (instead of the obvious re-assembly), and keep all your data. The software raid drivers and tools are surprisingly intelligent. But as always, keep backups :) -- Mike Williams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Introducing RAID 1 into a running system
Am Mittwoch, den 07.09.2005, 13:58 +0200 schrieb Christoph Gysin: Heinz Sporn wrote: Question: may I run mkraid /dev/md0 on the fly now or will that somehow destroy the partition table on the entire disk A ? This wont't work since only data written to md0 gets mirrored. You can't mirror an existing partition. An mkraid will probably destroy partition A2. That I am aware of. A2 will definitely be lost. Would be great though ;-) Only thing I wasn't sure of is if mkraid or mdadm will touch anything else aside A2. You'll have to unmount the partiton A2 and mount md0 at some time. There's no way to do this on the fly AFAIK. But theres still a little shortcut: First, let me recommend you mdadm. It's a replacement for the old raidtools. *Much* better IMHO. Great tip. Thanx. I will use that. - Create a new RAID1 in degraded state from B2: # mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level 1 --raid-devices 2 /dev/B2 missing - Copy contents from A2 to md0 - umount A2 - add A2 to md0: # mdadm /dev/md0 --add /dev/A2 Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Heinz Sporn SPORN it-freelancing Mobile: ++43 (0)699 / 127 827 07 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.sporn-it.com Snail: Steyrer Str. 20 A-4540 Bad Hall Austria / Europe -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Introducing RAID 1 into a running system
Am Mittwoch, den 07.09.2005, 13:17 +0100 schrieb Mike Williams: On Wednesday 07 September 2005 12:58, Christoph Gysin wrote: First, let me recommend you mdadm. It's a replacement for the old raidtools. *Much* better IMHO. VERY much so. - Create a new RAID1 in degraded state from B2: # mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level 1 --raid-devices 2 /dev/B2 missing - Copy contents from A2 to md0 - umount A2 - add A2 to md0: # mdadm /dev/md0 --add /dev/A2 Quicker method :) create B1 and B2 umount /dev/A2 # mdadm --create /dev/md0 -l1 -n2 /dev/A2 /dev/B2 You CAN create a mirror of an existing partition, and NOT lose data. I know, I've done it. Uuuuh - that sounds MUCH better. I really thought that A2 will be lost by all means. I will definitely try your method. Thanx for your help! You can also re-create an existing array (instead of the obvious re-assembly), and keep all your data. The software raid drivers and tools are surprisingly intelligent. But as always, keep backups :) -- Mike Williams -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Heinz Sporn SPORN it-freelancing Mobile: ++43 (0)699 / 127 827 07 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.sporn-it.com Snail: Steyrer Str. 20 A-4540 Bad Hall Austria / Europe -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Make a running process nohup?
Hello Qiangning, Wednesday, September 7, 2005, 1:12:47 PM, you wrote: Is it possible make a running process nohup so that I can leave it running after I logout without interrupt it? Screen is not applicable? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?
Martin S schreef: The main problem I feel is that lots of apps are written for a specific WM rather than a generic non-WM/DE-dependent API. Which makes the entire desktop look like bits and pieces the cat draged home (run Gimp, Kontact and Scid under KDE and you'll know what I mean). There was (is?) a setting in KDE to force *some* apps to bend to the theme of KDE, but that was buggy when I tried it last time. Actually, I use(d) the setting (kcontrol= Appearance and Themes= Color= Apply KDE colors to non-KDE apps, which I still have set), so colors always matched across both toolsets (except for Firefox, where most themes don't pick up system colors), which is a big step in the right direction. But now I use: x11-themes/gtk-engines-qt Available versions: 0.6-r1 Installed: 0.6-r1 Homepage:http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/gtk-qt Description: GTK+2 Qt Theme Engine This package 1) adds a setting to Kcontrol to tell KDE to use either use the KDE theme and fonts for GTK apps, or you can specify theme and fonts what to use for GTK apps, the benefit being you can do this in Kcontrol, rather than having to get a GNOME theme switch application (though I had one anyway, and this function seems to apply only to GTK2, not GTK1, which was a problem for me--but I solved it); 2) provides an engine for the various KDE themes that have been 'ported' to GTK (2), such as Liquid, I think Baghira's been done, basically search 'GTK' on KDE-Look.org, and you'll find a bunch. But this didn't help me with GTK1 apps, of which I have several, notably multi-gnome-terminal. But I was able to conform them as well by doing the following: Found a theme on KDE-Look org which was for all three toolsets: KDE, GTK2, and GTK1 (there are not many, but there are a couple), namely QTCurve. Set all three toolsets to use it (KDE in Kcontrol, GTK2 in either Kcontrol, Gnome Control Center/Themes, gtk-chtheme, or gtk-theme-switch (version 2, called with 'switch2'), and GTK1 in gtk-theme-switch (version 1, also installed, called with 'switch'). I'm sure that many would consider this overcomplicated (and it probably is), but the hardest part was finding a theme (that I liked) that was designed for all three toolsets. Once I had done that, setting it up was pretty simple, and it works well; all applications (except those which do not use system themes, which on my system is essentially Firefox and OO.o) use the same theme and colors, from The Gimp, to Krusader, to gnotepad +. So my desktop looks quite consistent in that respect, despite the fact that it is neither KDE nor GNOME. Fonts are a bit of a problem, though-- font sizes seem to change if I 'mix' apps from KDE (specifically, I don't think this happens if I run a QT-but-not-KDE app) on my primarily GTK-based desktop. The fonts and sizes are set to the same in both GNOME and KDE, but if I open a KDE app, they seem to display as smaller, and then newly-opened GTK apps seem to display the fonts as slightly bigger. I suspect that this is a bit of fallout from the lack of interoperability/lack of conformance to the freedesktop.org standard, and neither DE is quite sure who's supposed to be controlling the font size once both DEs are controlling a portion of the open applications on the desktop, so they have a minor conflict about it. It's an annoyance, not really a 'problem', and overall, the system works well. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: iptables example on Gentoo
I think it might be important to point out here how Shorewall handles/uses these files. I don't use Shorewall, so I can't really shed light on it. But these config files are really only one side of the mirror. Actually these files are typically the only ones you'll need to edit... /etc/shorewall/interfaces defines the interfaces that will be available to shorewall and provides some logical names for rules mapping. /etc/shorewall/masq defines the masquerades to use and provides a quick and easy way to say things like eth1 traffic going out on eth0 should be masqueraded. /etc/shorewall/policy defines the default policies on the interfaces. /etc/shorewall/zones defines human-readable names for the interfaces, although I haven't really seen them used for much they are critical to the functionality (you'll get weird startup failure messages if they're missing). /etc/shorewall/rules is the critical file, and it defines the rules for what traffic will be allowed. My rules file, for example, indicates that incoming mail and other services are either allowed for the router box to handle or forwarded into the DMZ. It also defines what traffic to block (i.e. outbound windblows networking ports), what hosts to block (ip addresses that hit the ssh daemon), etc. Other files that you might edit are /etc/shorewall/blacklist, an optional blacklist file to block all traffic from these hosts, and /etc/shorewall/shorewall.conf, the general shorewall configuration file. Many other files exist in the directory but I'm willing to bet that 95% of the time you won't need to modify them. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Broken build of grass
On 9/6/05, Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The package grass seems to be broken (emerge): Did you try searching bugs.gentoo.org? There are several bugs about this issue, including: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27915 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] VPN question
On 9/7/05, Heinz Sporn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 07.09.2005, 11:39 +0200 schrieb Uwe Thiem: On 07 September 2005 09:15, Heinz Sporn wrote: Am Dienstag, den 06.09.2005, 08:32 -0700 schrieb gentuxx: [snip] Well, as long as you're not trying to establish the VPN tunnel over IPX, you can tunnel whatever you want. So, once you've established a VPN connection with another box, or a concentrator, it shouldn't matter what type of traffic goes through the tunnel. Sorry, but that's simply not true. IPX has no glue what to do with a TCP/IP based VPN tunnel. ... and it doesn't need to. Gentuxx's answer above is correct. Sucessfully creating a VPN tunnel of some sort does really not enable IPX traffic automagically. At least you have to establish ethernet bridging on both ends of the tunnel. Not that big a deal if you have two Linux boxes on both ends of the tunnel and run say OpenVPN. But I was under the impression that this is not the scenario here. Right you are ;) The other endpoint is supposed to be WinXP box. I was wondering if there's some magical way to establish an IPX tunnel inside a TCP based VPN (using openvpn client at one endpoint). Why does everything besides random clicking have to be so hard in this damn OS.. Thanks for your awnsers. Thread closed. -- Regards Karol Krzak -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Make a running process nohup?
On 9/7/05, Qiangning Hong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible make a running process nohup so that I can leave it running after I logout without interrupt it? How about disown, a bash built-in? $ disown -h job number HTH, Matt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Routing problem
Hi, I have connected two sites with openVPN, this works fine all traffic goes trought the tunnels, and i can ping machines from one site to another. But, i can't ping a machine from siteA from openVPN from siteB. to make it compleet bizar the machine on siteA can ping the openVPN on siteB. If i do a ping -R on the machine at siteA i see this: RR: 10.32.3.172 - machine siteA 10.32.101.3 - tunnel 10.32.16.52 - openVPN siteB 10.32.16.52 10.32.3.51 - must be 10.32.101.3 (openVPN siteA) 10.32.3.172 It seems that the answer goes direct between the two openVPN machines and not the tunnel (10.32.101.x) There is a route 10.32.0.0 netmask 255.255.252.0 gw 10.32.101.3 dev tun1. A ping from openVPN siteB to openVPN siteA RR: 10.32.101.4 10.32.3.51 10.32.3.51 10.32.101.4 My main portage server is in siteA and i would like to update my remore openVPN machines. This behaviour its not only with that machine but with all my other remote openVPN machines, all machines behind those does not have this kind of problems. Anyone know a solution TIA -- This is Unix-Land. In quiet nights, you can hear the Windows machines reboot. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] issue on binary merge
Hi List, can some explain this? Machine A+B have identical make.conf (expect in 3 USE-falgs), /etc/portage/*, /usr/portage, profile. Machine A: - FEATURES=buildpkg - added USE-flag samba - emerge -uD --newuse world * builds new samba package * rebuilds some packages (kdebase, cups, mplayer etc.) Machine B: - mount PGKDIR of machine A via nfs to PGKDIR on machine B - added USE-flag samba - emerge -uD --newuse --usepkg world * merges binary samba * does not merge anything else (no binary, no ebuild ) It would be nice if I understand why emerge won't remerge binary packages with changed use-flags. THX, Sascha. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge dev-python/python-fchksum-1.7.1 fails (wrong compiler called?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Dear list, emerge of dev-python/python-fchksum-1.7.1 fails (for details see below). It seems to me as if the script is calling i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc, where it should call i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc (as for all the other packages). Do you have any hints how I could fix this error? Can I safely skip this package? I am still in the original emerge --emtytree system following a stage 1 installation from stage1-x86-2005.1.tar.bz2. I had to interrupt the emerge once (took too much time). Thans for any advice (sorry, I'm new with gentoo), Andreas nessie / # emerge --resume *** Resuming merge... emerge (1 of 70) dev-python/python-fchksum-1.7.1 to / md5 files ;-) python-fchksum-1.6.1-r1.ebuild md5 files ;-) python-fchksum-1.7.1.ebuild md5 files ;-) files/digest-python-fchksum-1.6.1-r1 md5 files ;-) files/digest-python-fchksum-1.7.1 md5 src_uri ;-) python-fchksum-1.7.1.tar.gz Unpacking source... Unpacking python-fchksum-1.7.1.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/python-fchksum-1.7.1/work Source unpacked. ['setup.py', 'build'] running build running build_ext building 'fchksum' extension creating build creating build/temp.linux-i686-2.3 i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -pthread -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG - -march=pentium2 -O3 -pipe -fPIC -I/usr/include/python2.3 -c md5.c -o build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/md5.o gcc-config error: Could not run/locate i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc error: command 'i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc' failed with exit status 1 !!! ERROR: dev-python/python-fchksum-1.7.1 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 20, Exitcode 1 !!! (no error message) !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. nessie / # -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDHv4rL+gLs3iH94cRAzHGAJkBCc0iiDAi2NpBrmpNHIKoQzGBgACffg+q puhAtieL/HJ0DeEOBIry5Tk= =wqhX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Introducing RAID 1 into a running system
Mike Williams wrote: Quicker method :) create B1 and B2 umount /dev/A2 # mdadm --create /dev/md0 -l1 -n2 /dev/A2 /dev/B2 You CAN create a mirror of an existing partition, and NOT lose data. I know, I've done it. But how does it know which of the devices is the master? Does it simply copy the first device mentioned to the second? Also the RAID configuration gets stored on the partition. (see mdadm -Es /dev/hdax). Where will it be put so the filesystem doesn't get corrupted? Are there some reserved blocks the fs won't touch? Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage - xcdroast
On 9/6/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as someone already said emerge eixthen runupdate-eix (you need to be root to do that part)this creates some sort of very quick index to your ebuilds which is MUCHfaster to search than emerge -s. then just useeix searchterm...--Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] Another good script/program to try is esearch. Just emerge esearch then do eupdatedb to update the index of ebuilds. Then, the next time you do an emerge sync, you can just type esync instead and it will update portage and your esearch database. It also prints out all of the updated packages in a nice fashion after the sync. With esearch, you can type esearch searchterm to search for packages. From my understanding (I have never really looked into it), it is basically locate that only searches through portage. It is one of my favorite gentoo tools and I would highly recommend it. Preston
SOLVED: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge dev-python/python-fchksum-1.7.1 fails
Sorry for the noise- problem is a known bug, I have solved it for myself. See http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=gentoo-embeddedm=112066327800026w=2 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88777 #]From: Andreas K. Huettel [EMAIL PROTECTED] #]To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org #]Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 16:50:12 +0200 (CEST) #]Subject: [gentoo-user] emerge dev-python/python-fchksum-1.7.1 fails (wrong #]compiler called?) #]Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org #] #] #] #]Dear list, #] #]emerge of dev-python/python-fchksum-1.7.1 fails (for details see below). #]It seems to me as if the script is calling i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc, where it #]should call i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc (as for all the other packages). #] #]Do you have any hints how I could fix this error? #]Can I safely skip this package? #] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Copying between hard drives potential newbie question
Hi waltdnes, on Tuesday, 2005-09-06 at 21:08:20, you wrote: Most UPSs below about US$400 are junk. You'd be served just as well with a decent surge suppressor power strip. Don't waste your money on a UPS. Not if all you want is to give your home system 5 minutes to shut down in a power failure, or to handle the occasional 30-second outage, of which my area seems to have more than its fair share. Oh yes, it depends very much on the grid in your area. I lived in the Philippines for a while where brownouts are a very common thing---usually, you get a UPS free there when you buy a computer. It's really no fun without one, and for what they have to do the cheap lil things work very well. Their lead accus don't usually last more than a year, but then you just get a new one for $5 or so and you're set for another year. In Germany OTOH, hardly anybody has one, and people still get uptimes of over a year. regards Matthias -- I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: 90CF8389 Fingerprint: 8E 1F 10 81 A4 66 29 46 B9 8A B9 E2 09 9F 3B 91 pgpFKpH2HolBJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] [OT] VPN question
-Original Message- From: krzaq [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 September 2005 14:58 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] VPN question Right you are ;) The other endpoint is supposed to be WinXP box. I was wondering if there's some magical way to establish an IPX tunnel inside a TCP based VPN (using openvpn client at one endpoint). Why does everything besides random clicking have to be so hard in this damn OS.. It's been some time ago, so I can't remember the details - but can't you bind IPX over TCP/IP in WinXP? I know for sure that you can bind NetBIOS to TCP/IP. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer and/or X optimization
On Wednesday 07 September 2005 12:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 03:15:51AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote does xine also have a speed problem? If yes: I don't have xine loaded. I've had problems building it in the past. mplayer has been trouble-free. could you please post xorg.conf/Xorg.0.log? Maybe they contain somethin obvious... To avoid cluttering up the list, I've posted them on my webpage; see http://www.waltdnes.org/xorg.conf.txt http://www.waltdnes.org/Xorg.0.log.txt According to the box, the card is a PowerColor X300 SE, with PCI Express and full DirectX 9 support. One thing I notice is at the very end of xorg.conf... # Section DRI #Mode 0666 # EndSection According to man radeon Option BusType string Used to replace previous ForcePCIMode option. Should only be used when driver's bus detection is incorrect or you want to force a AGP card to PCI mode. Should NEVER force a PCI card to AGP bus. PCI-- PCI bus AGP-- AGP bus PCIE -- PCI Express (falls back to PCI at present) (used only when DRI is enabled) The default is auto detect. I uncommented the 3 lines and in the video card section I added... Option BusType PCIE but it looks like it's not enabled. you have to load dri in the modules section first (and glx maybe too). BUT from your log: your card is to new for dri/render, so it falls back to some.. I don't know-mode ;) but you can try to load them. Change this: # This loads the GLX module #Load glx # This loads the DRI module #Load dri to this: # This loads the GLX module Load glx # This loads the DRI module Load dri but I am pretty sure, that it will not help much. Hm - xv and ATI were never good friends... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist
On 9/6/2005 10:00 PM Willie Wong wrote: On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 09:03:09PM -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote: No rubbish. Not working. Thanks for your help. That means it is not an X problem, but a problem at the kernel (unlikely) or your hardware. You said it is part of a wireless combo? Try changing the battery. I also have a wireless mouse/keyboard combo from Logitech (actually Logitech rebranded as Acer), the keyboard runs on a single AAA for over two years now and is still going, but I've had to change the batteries for my mouse every three months. I think it has to do with the fact that it is an optical mouse and the little red LED just keeps going On my mouse, when the battery dies, the LED will still be working for a bit, but the batteries won't provide enough voltage to drive other electronics, and so while it seems like the mouse should work, it actually doesn't. This could be the problem as the mouse batteries have been in for at least 2 months. Like you, I assumed the mouse should work as it did the first time I rebooted because the red light is still on. I'll try it tonight when I get home. Thanks, Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] init script dependency problem
Anyone else encountered this? * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)... * Could not get dependency info for nscd! * Please run: * # /sbin/depscan.sh * to try and fix this. * Starting Name Service Cache Daemon ... [ ok ] [root:/etc]# /sbin/depscan.sh * Caching service dependencies ... gawk: /lib/rcscripts/awk/cachedepends.awk:72: fatal: extension: library `/lib/rcscripts/filefuncs.so': cannot call function `dlload' (/lib/rcscripts/filefuncs.so: undefined symbol: dlload) bash: /var/lib/init.d/depcache: No such file or directory * Failed to cache service dependencies Just wondering if a recent update to gawk broke something? -- Aj. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist
On 9/6/2005 9:53 PM W.Kenworthy wrote: use lsmod to get the module list. The modules are usbmouse and psmouse (not sure if you have said what mouse type you are using) . Note that you will need to revisit your kernel configuration if you dont have them. If they dont show in lsmod, try modprobe psmouse etc. Thanks for the reply. I have neither usbmouse nor psmouse in my lsmod output. Trying to load with modprobe doesn't work either: tv mythtv # modprobe psmouse FATAL: Module psmouse not found. tv mythtv # modprobe usbmouse FATAL: Module usbmouse not found. Because I haven't made any changes, I suspect my system never used them. I'll try changing the batteries in the mouse as another poster suggested. If that doesn't solve it, then I'll venture into this further. Thanks, Drew On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 21:03 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 9/6/2005 8:49 PM W.Kenworthy wrote: The module thats responsible for /dev/input/mouse0 creates the node when it loads via udev: is the modules loaded? /dev/mouse is usually (on I come from the FreeBSD world and thus, I'm a linux newb. Sorry for the simple questions. What module should I look for? How can I check to see if it's loaded? newer systems) a symlink to /dev/input/mouse0 if it exists. /dev/input/mice is a concentrator. i.e., on my laptop I have a ps2 mouse (actually the gspot/touchpad) and a plugged in usb mouse. All three work through /dev/input/mice at the same time. Individually they are accessed via /dev/input/mouseX. Thanks for the explanation. To test try cat /dev/input/mice and move the mouse - rubbish will print to terminal if its working. CTRL-C to exit. No rubbish. Not working. Thanks for your help. Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: iptables example on Gentoo
Dave Nebinger dnebinger at joat.com writes: I think it might be important to point out here how Shorewall handles/uses these files. I don't use Shorewall, so I can't really shed light on it. But these config files are really only one side of the mirror. Sorry, I HAVE ZERO INTEREST IN A GUI, UNLESS THE RESULTING RULESETS ARE SIMILAR TO THOSE BUILT MANUALLY with a one-to-one correspondance to iptables/netfilter. Actually these files are typically the only ones you'll need to edit... I have a very robust OpenBSD based firewall. I'm not looking for advice on building firewalls as a newbie. I'm looking for somebody that knows IPTABLES/NETFILTER, preferable on Gentoo, and is willing to share a little information. I'm in the process of building a gentoo based firewall to compare the robustness against OpenBSD + pf. The really funny thing is a year ago, this list was full of persons that debunked OpenBSD's security supremacy. Now all I'm getting is a lot of 'hot air' and 'bull-loney'. Why are so many people scared to manage there own firewall rulesets directly? Personally, when the occasional hacker does manage to penetrate a managerie of obsticles, I like to watch what they do, and learn. Besides the end result is there is nothing in my networks that if destroyed, cannot be rebuilt. Anything of treasure value is protected by a 4 foot air_gap. I guess I see talented penetration specialists more as kindred spirits, as opposed to evil interlopers. This FEAR of managing your own iptables/netfilters rulesets is not healthly. Who the F*** wants to live life afraid? Conquer your demons face to face, unless there really is truth to what the OpenBSD community says about linux, 'linux based security is bullshit'. Prove me wrong; don't hijack the thread! OpenBSD + PF is a piece of cake. OpenBSD comes secure right out of the box. If the gentoo experts that peruse this list read this email, surely they can direct one to examples where the details of secure rulesets exist? Surely someone is confident enough in their iptables/netfilter rulesets to publish them? Maybe the linux security models are not up to the task? SElinux etc? PF rulessets are quite elaborate, but easily discernable. You know, 'the rat' culture is questionable, but, he's really quite talented and reasonable, once you get past the phasic behavior. OpenBSD comes secure, right out off the installation. Builing a really secure firewall is trivial. I thought (gentoo)linux was suppose to be equal to or superior to OpenBSD for security and every other aspect of computing? If you have ruleset capabilities, then look at this example, and tell me what's deficient with it? http://www.linuxguruz.com/iptables/scripts/rc.DMZ.firewall.txt It was created for 2.4 based kernels, but this simple website shows one how to prepare a 2.6 kernel as the basis of the firewall: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml It is a bit shallow, but at least this author is not scared of iptables/netfilter fundamentals. (Booo) this is where the Gentooers mess their britches? The really sad thing in this whole thread, is nobody has even mentiond which (kernel) sources to use, what to disable/enable and why. Is this some sort of deep secret or is the gentoo community un_caring about those who simply want to learn about iptables/netfilter in a 2.6 kernel environment? Hell, if this list and the greater gentoo community do not have this aggregated knowledge then let's develop it and document it and share it. This is how we, as the open_source community distinguish ourselves from the Vulture and his menion_buzzards that inhabit Redmond! sincerely, from a dreamer and a looser, and an simpleton, (but, I'm not afraid of any stinking rule_set, are you?) James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Make a running process nohup?
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Qiangning Hong wrote: Is it possible make a running process nohup so that I can leave it running after I logout without interrupt it? man nohup? (+nice/renice?) Best regards Peter K -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: iptables example on Gentoo
Hi, James escreveu: Dave Nebinger dnebinger at joat.com writes: I think it might be important to point out here how Shorewall handles/uses these files. I don't use Shorewall, so I can't really shed light on it. But these config files are really only one side of the mirror. Sorry, I HAVE ZERO INTEREST IN A GUI, UNLESS THE RESULTING RULESETS ARE SIMILAR TO THOSE BUILT MANUALLY with a one-to-one correspondance to iptables/netfilter. IMHO shorewall isn't a GUI it's just a script (might be wrong here) with many config files for many (quite all) possible usages and with a manual (in pdf other formats) which is around 500-600 pages. All the configuration is done by editing files in: /etc/shorewall/... directory (and they come heavily commented). ...SKIP... OpenBSD + PF is a piece of cake. OpenBSD comes secure right out of the box. If the gentoo experts that peruse this list read this email, surely they can direct one to examples where the details of secure rulesets exist? Surely someone is confident enough in their iptables/netfilter rulesets to publish them? IMO OpenBSD initial goal was just that - to be very secure even in it's default install. Haven't seen such claim for Gentoo (plain). Maybe the linux security models are not up to the task? SElinux etc? Have some experience with Grsec2+PaX and RSBAC (SElinux brother ;) IMHO they are significantly better than OpenBSD in overall security. The new/next version of OpenBSD will have some sort of protection against memory overflow attacks (writting this by memory only, might not be 100% correct) so they are slowing nest release to test this 'new' feature - which one and others too are already used by Hardened Gentoo. Check 'Adamantix' - Debian + PaX (memory protection) + RSBAC (DAC). Example: see 'gibraltar' router/firewall distro - uses RSBAC-kernel. PF rulessets are quite elaborate, but easily discernable. You know, 'the rat' culture is questionable, but, he's really quite talented and reasonable, once you get past the phasic behavior. OpenBSD comes secure, right out off the installation. Builing a really secure firewall is trivial. I thought (gentoo)linux was suppose to be equal to or superior to OpenBSD for security and every other aspect of computing? If you have ruleset capabilities, then look at this example, and tell me what's deficient with it? http://www.linuxguruz.com/iptables/scripts/rc.DMZ.firewall.txt It was created for 2.4 based kernels, but this simple website shows one how to prepare a 2.6 kernel as the basis of the firewall: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml It is a bit shallow, but at least this author is not scared of iptables/netfilter fundamentals. (Booo) this is where the Gentooers mess their britches? The really sad thing in this whole thread, is nobody has even mentiond which (kernel) sources to use, what to disable/enable and why. Is this some sort of deep secret or is the gentoo community un_caring about those who simply want to learn about iptables/netfilter in a 2.6 kernel environment? Hell, if this list and the greater gentoo community do not have this aggregated knowledge then let's develop it and document it and share it. This is how we, as the open_source community distinguish ourselves from the Vulture and his menion_buzzards that inhabit Redmond! sincerely, from a dreamer and a looser, and an simpleton, (but, I'm not afraid of any stinking rule_set, are you?) James No flames please, just my opinion. HTH. Rumen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: iptables example on Gentoo
James schreef: snip (Booo) this is where the Gentooers mess their britches? The really sad thing in this whole thread, is nobody has even mentiond which (kernel) sources to use, what to disable/enable and why. Is this some sort of deep secret or is the gentoo community un_caring about those who simply want to learn about iptables/netfilter in a 2.6 kernel environment? Hell, if this list and the greater gentoo community do not have this aggregated knowledge Good morning, this is the general users list. If you want the security experts, try gentoo-security For the discussion of security issues and fixes gentoo-hardened For a security hardened version of Gentoo If you want to discuss comparisons between Gentoo and BSD, this might be the place: gentoo-bsd Discussion about Gentoo/BSD That's all I'm going to say in the face of all this needlessly insulting behaviour. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] 4gb mpeg to 100mb xvid?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi people, I was wondering, do you have any pointers to transcode an mpeg file to an xvid? The original is a +4gb file, and I need to create a good quality of aprox. 100mb xvid file. What are your suggestions? Any interesting sites to read about this? scripts? ebuilds? I've done some research in the area for the last two days, but I am definitely not a video guru, and many things I do not understand. Yours, - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - www.buanzo.com.ar Consultor en Seguridad Informatica KTP Consultores - info AT ktpconsultores.com.ar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDHy8dAlpOsGhXcE0RAtG1AJ4hKwTIoDebDzICqNTJv3ZHe4fXawCfWLeh J2IsjTmur5KhaN5MUb3ty00= =dgAi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 4gb mpeg to 100mb xvid?
Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman schreef: Hi people, I was wondering, do you have any pointers to transcode an mpeg file to an xvid? The original is a +4gb file, and I need to create a good quality of aprox. 100mb xvid file. I don't think this is realistic... you are trying to reduce the file size by over 98% and want 'good quality' as well? I don't see quite how that is going to happen, A standard DVD can be reduced to the size of 1 CD (700 MB) or half that (350-400 MB) using Xvid or Divx, but that's still 4-7x bigger than what you're trying to get from the more-or-less same size starting point, and to even do that much you have to make some sacrifices (like removing menus and extras, which is essentially ripping out data from the original file by the handful, or reducing image size, which may affect quality). Is this 100MB a strict limit on the final file size (if you even can do it, it's going to be the size of a postage stamp, though possibly the most beautiful postage stamp ever seen)? Is all the data in the original file strictly necessary? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Random Kernel Crashes ... Need more info
Hey all, I've been experiencing some random kernel crashes, and need a way of finding out what happened. I can't find any information in /var/log/lastlog or in /var/log/messages.*.bz2. Is there any way that I can monitor kernel messages during a crash and recover this information on the next boot? Thanks in advance. Kris Kerwin PS: Please CC me in your response. pgprhWzavLQxv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: iptables example on Gentoo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James wrote: Dave Nebinger dnebinger at joat.com writes: I think it might be important to point out here how Shorewall handles/uses these files. I don't use Shorewall, so I can't really shed light on it. But these config files are really only one side of the mirror. Sorry, I HAVE ZERO INTEREST IN A GUI, UNLESS THE RESULTING RULESETS ARE SIMILAR TO THOSE BUILT MANUALLY with a one-to-one correspondance to iptables/netfilter. I think, perhaps, you misunderstood what I was saying. My understanding of shorewall was that it was a script (or series of scripts) that look for the previously specified config files and do cool stuff with the information contained in them. I was simply stating that in order to put value to the information in the config files, that you would have to know what the scripts do. I was not, in any way, suggesting that you use Shorewall. I can completely understand and sympathize with your need to dissect iptables, and the security it provides. However, I tend to take a top-down approach, as opposed to the bottom-up approach you seem to prefer. Actually these files are typically the only ones you'll need to edit... I have a very robust OpenBSD based firewall. I'm not looking for advice on building firewalls as a newbie. I'm looking for somebody that knows IPTABLES/NETFILTER, preferable on Gentoo, and is willing to share a little information. I'm in the process of building a gentoo based firewall to compare the robustness against OpenBSD + pf. ... snipping BSD is better rant ... sincerely, from a dreamer and a looser, and an simpleton, (but, I'm not afraid of any stinking rule_set, are you?) James Going back to your original questions, I'm not really sure I can help with Q1. However, in regards to Q2, there aren't any config files for iptables. The tables are stored in memory. You can do an iptables-save, which will output a modified version of the rules currently in place, which can subsequently be modified (assuming you understand and duplicate the syntax) and restored (with any changes) using iptables-restore. Otherwise, all of your editing should be done at the command line. I would recommend using a script (of your own design, if so desired) to ease repeatability, and reduce the possibility for mistakes (fat-fingering). Also, a script of this nature would be handy for starting the iptables upon boot (I believe the HOW-TO you referenced covers this). HTH. - -- gentux echo hfouvyAdpy/ofu | perl -pe 's/(.)/chr(ord($1)-1)/ge' gentux's gpg fingerprint == 34CE 2E97 40C7 EF6E EC40 9795 2D81 924A 6996 0993 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDHzQ7LYGSSmmWCZMRAgx1AKCT+7L3dXEppBtzjsZ8K/PLKYB4BQCff/AJ IWqjSAL5vD46NiY0sfquCe4= =hejB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Is binary emerge equivalent to source emerge?
Hi I've been building a box for a specific purpose by emerge-ing and playing with various packages until I ended up with something that matched what I wanted. I'd now like to rebuild the box including just the packages that turned out to be relevant. Rather than do source installs again I was thinking of using the current box to build binary packages before wiping it and doing a rebuild from these binaries, hence saving on heaps of build time after setting make.conf, etc. to match the current install. One additional step that I think is important is to use a Portage snapshot from the current machine. A few questions... 1) Does this seem like a sensible idea? Will it generally work? 2) Will --usepkg --getbinpkg use binary packages for dependencies? 3) Is the resultant Portage database equivalent to source emerges, especially in respect of future --updates, --newuse, etc? 4) Am I right to use a Portage snapshot from the current machine? 5) Is this idea so close to the Catalyst idea that I should use its methods to achieve my aims? TIA IanC -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 4gb mpeg to 100mb xvid?
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Holly Bostick wrote:
Is this 100MB a strict limit on the final file size (if you even can do it,
it's going to be the size of a postage stamp, though possibly the most
beautiful postage stamp ever seen)? Is all the data in the original file
strictly necessary?
This is the output of idmedia on one of those fiels:
ID_VIDEO_ID=0
ID_AUDIO_ID=0
ID_FILENAME=/home/buanzo/work/dd/DD_25_2005.MPG
ID_VIDEO_FORMAT=0x1002
ID_VIDEO_BITRATE=990
ID_VIDEO_WIDTH=720
ID_VIDEO_HEIGHT=576
ID_VIDEO_FPS=25.000
ID_VIDEO_ASPECT=1.
ID_AUDIO_CODEC=mp3
ID_AUDIO_FORMAT=80
ID_AUDIO_BITRATE=384000
ID_AUDIO_RATE=48000
ID_AUDIO_NCH=2
ID_LENGTH=3502
idmedia(){
mplayer -identify -frames 0 -ao null -vo null -vc dummy $@ 2/dev/null |
grep ID_
}
The file is exactly 4566906464
This is a digital dump, probably really compressable, as I have already seen
it. But they usually
encode with wmv, which is, by no means, better.
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Consultor en Seguridad Informatica
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Re: [gentoo-user] 4gb mpeg to 100mb xvid?
Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi people, I was wondering, do you have any pointers to transcode an mpeg file to an xvid? The original is a +4gb file, and I need to create a good quality of aprox. 100mb xvid file. What are your suggestions? Any interesting sites to read about this? scripts? ebuilds? I've done some research in the area for the last two days, but I am definitely not a video guru, and many things I do not understand. Unless the mpeg is mostly nothing at all (very little motion, no flames, water, sky, textures, ...) then you will find it hard to get down to 100meg. Don't forget that mpeg2 (probably the format you have...) is already compressed. Also don't forget that 1h30 of *audio* at 128kbps (normal mp3/ogg quality) will take about 90-100meg. What you are asking is pretty unrealistic. You could do it with mplayer or transcode but the results will be horrific. For 1h30 mins you will be down to a very small size, very low quality and barely discernable audio. Can you really only go to 100meg? You might get something reasonable with 300meg if you play around enough but otherwise I would say forget it. Cheers Antoine ps. more info about the nature of the original could change everything -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Random Kernel Crashes ... Need more info
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kris Kerwin wrote: Is there any way that I can monitor kernel messages during a crash and recover this information on the next boot? You may snapshot dmesg's output in a timely manner, ala crontab. - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - www.buanzo.com.ar Consultor en Seguridad Informatica KTP Consultores - info AT ktpconsultores.com.ar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDHzceAlpOsGhXcE0RAkQiAJ9DsaMLMkb57V1pe1auCGI+SLGBfACfdR29 61J2yLxkK4mbCi8bZPEMmok= =6InN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: iptables example on Gentoo
Rumen Yotov rumen_yotov at dir.bg writes: IMO OpenBSD initial goal was just that - to be very secure even in it's default install. Haven't seen such claim for Gentoo (plain). Huh? This release also gives provides two additional x86 LiveCD images, in combination with the minimal and universal InstallCDs seen in previous releases: a new x86 LiveCD from the Hardened project And the corresponding CD: http://open-systems.ufl.edu/mirrors/gentoo/experimental/x86/hardened/livecd Have some experience with Grsec2+PaX and RSBAC (SElinux brother ;) IMHO they are significantly better than OpenBSD in overall security. The new/next version of OpenBSD will have some sort of protection against memory overflow attacks (writting this by memory only, might not be 100% correct) so they are slowing nest release to test this 'new' feature - which one and others too are already used by Hardened Gentoo. Check 'Adamantix' - Debian + PaX (memory protection) + RSBAC (DAC). Example: see 'gibraltar' router/firewall distro - uses RSBAC-kernel. Beautiful Prose! Any Other contributors care to 'Stand Up'? No flames please, just my opinion. HTH. Rumen Rumen, I never flame. I try to inspire, sometimes making my community and friends ashamed of ourselves and myself. Surely, I run the risk of becoming an outcast within a group of radicals (GENTOO)? Not the first time I've been 86'd from a place where they never toss out radical and dreamers Certainly, there are others feeling the pain of less than fantastic security on Gentoo! Hacking the raw files will allow migration of proven security models to countless (embedded) gentoo devices. Once perfected, the GUI frontends can be honestly tested and evaluated for robustness. AT www.shorewall.net (interestingly not www.shorewall.org) WE see in big red bold letters: Security vulnerability in Shorewall 2.x I'll stick with iptables/netfilter directly, until multiple, proven scripts and configurations are published. Then we can all play with GUI tools... Business vs Integrity(Freedom). Funny, Gentoo was very quick to dump XFree for Xorg, in name of righteous OpenSource propaganda. Yet the same level of detail with documented usage of a 2.6 kernel and iptables/netfilter alludes us? Business versus Integrity? or just an oversight? Common man, we're all guilty. Let's group together, straighten out this sess_pool, and live with Integrity! -- the most guilty of all, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Random Kernel Crashes ... Need more info
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kris Kerwin wrote: Hey all, I've been experiencing some random kernel crashes, and need a way of finding out what happened. I can't find any information in /var/log/lastlog or in /var/log/messages.*.bz2. Is there any way that I can monitor kernel messages during a crash and recover this information on the next boot? Thanks in advance. Kris Kerwin PS: Please CC me in your response. The /var/log/dmesg log contains more specific kernel messages. You can also get the messages by running `dmesg` (basically `cat`'s that file). If the kernel crashes, messages from previous boots should be store there. Also, if you're running a custom kernel, you may want to turn on the kernel debugging option on. (I haven't used that, but I remember seeing the last time I compiled my kernel.) HTH. - -- gentux echo hfouvyAdpy/ofu | perl -pe 's/(.)/chr(ord($1)-1)/ge' gentux's gpg fingerprint == 34CE 2E97 40C7 EF6E EC40 9795 2D81 924A 6996 0993 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDHzewLYGSSmmWCZMRAhXAAKCUTIBHs3S89XKfxBHpWEpjsr4fdQCgybvw YJ0oXp8+mZkHbg9GNOu6px4= =DEsO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Random Kernel Crashes ... Need more info
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote: You may snapshot dmesg's output in a timely manner, ala crontab. Additionally, you my wish to play with the log_buf_len kernel parameter: log_buf_len=n Sets the size of the printk ring buffer, in bytes. Format is n, nk, nM. n must be a power of two. The default is set in kernel config. - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - www.buanzo.com.ar Consultor en Seguridad Informatica KTP Consultores - info AT ktpconsultores.com.ar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDHzreAlpOsGhXcE0RApV0AJ4nJs869Ichp2EOBhZ/FGCGsbi32wCfbqqC CRLg1gGzxLmj6Xa3kya56Gc= =SDxa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub over the top of Win XP
On 9/7/05, Heinz Sporn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 07.09.2005, 10:25 +0200 schrieb Christoph Gysin: Neil Bothwick wrote: Correct, and /dev/hda5 is (hd0,4) despite all the conflicting advice you've been given. All my boxes have /boot on hda5 and all use hd0,4 (well, except the iBook which uses that horrible yaboot thing, anyone who wants to start a grub vs. lilo flame war should be made to use yaboot). Sorry for the confusing answers. I was pretty sure grub doesn't care wether your partions are primary or logical, giving each a number starting from 0. Appearantly this is *not* the case. From the docs: Grub's a nasty hog, that's for sure (but still superior over Lilo IMHO). Another very important point to consider is that Grub looks at drive sequences from a BIOS perspective. Say you have disk 1 (primary IDE) and disk 2 (secondary IDE). When you boot Grub in sunshine mode it'll see disk 1 as hd0 and disk 2 as hd1. But if you jump into your BIOS and set disk 2 to your primary boot medium Grub will change it's perspective and match disk 2 to hd0. (hd0,1) Here, `hd' means it is a hard disk drive. The first integer `0' indicates the drive number, that is, the first hard disk, while the second integer, `1', indicates the partition number (or the PC slice number in the BSD terminology). Once again, please note that the partition numbers are counted from _zero_, not from one. This expression means the second partition of the first hard disk drive. In this case, GRUB uses one partition of the disk, instead of the whole disk. (hd0,4) This specifies the first extended partition of the first hard disk drive. Note that the partition numbers for extended partitions are counted from `4', regardless of the actual number of primary partitions on your hard disk. Hope this made things clearer now... Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Heinz Sporn Hi Heinz, OK, the machine is up and dual booting so everything worked out fine. Thanks to all for your answers. What I suggested in my first email was correct. Before I did it I followed Neil's suggestion abut using the find command within grub. That did clarify things a bit and made me feel a bit better when I pulled the trigger. Anyway, I read all the responses this morning and had a good laugh. I guess I'm not the only one who has a question or two about how all of this is done! I must say that I'm appreciative of all the responses. As for the comment above about BIOS order, I think that's correct, but I tried an experiment on this machine and told it to boot from the second EDIE controller. That did not change the order grub saw the drives so I'm not sure every option in BIOS would fit your rule above, or maybe I still don't understand. As for grub rules I think I understand, it's these: 1) The order that the system sees hard drives is the order grub will enumerate them. For instance, in this system: /dev/hda - hard drive /dev/hdb - hard drive /dev/hdac - cdrom or this system: /dev/hda - hard drive /dev/hdc - cdrom /dev/hde - hard drive both produce the same results in grub: hd0 == /dev/hda hd1 == /dev/hdb or /dev/hde where the drives are numbered in the order Linux shows them. As for partition numbers it is my understanding that grub is always the /dev/hdX value minus 1. Beyond that I don't pretend to know anything. The one thing that always confuses me is the difference between placing grub in the MBR and placing it in a partition. It is my understanding that the MBR is a separate part of the drive structure, and is not part of any partition. Is this true? When we place an bootloader in the MBR that's what the system jumps to first? After that the bootloader in the MBR can transfer to either an operating system or to a second boot loader. I've done this where I had a copy of grub from Gentoo in the MBR, and then a copy of grub in a partition. Each copy had their own grub.conf file and managed it's own set of kernels, etc. However, what Windows does is a bit beyond me. I suppose it places it's own bootloader in the MBR. We then overwrite it, but then we have a command to jump to that OS. (chainloader +1 I suppose?) Anyway, confusing. Hey, emerge sync running now. Windows boots, Gentoo boots. All is good. this is my first dual boot machine that didn't use System Commander. Thanks much, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 4gb mpeg to 100mb xvid?
Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: Is this 100MB a strict limit on the final file size (if you even can do it, it's going to be the size of a postage stamp, though possibly the most beautiful postage stamp ever seen)? Is all the data in the original file strictly necessary? ID_VIDEO_WIDTH=720 ID_VIDEO_HEIGHT=576 ID_VIDEO_FPS=25.000 ID_VIDEO_ASPECT=1. ID_AUDIO_CODEC=mp3 ID_AUDIO_FORMAT=80 ID_AUDIO_BITRATE=384000 ID_AUDIO_RATE=48000 ID_AUDIO_NCH=2 ID_LENGTH=3502 OK, I would say that this is a PAL DVD with mp3 sound, based on the aspect ratio, frame rate, and size. You *could* just use dvdauthor to format the mpg (which is correctly formatted for a PAL DVD) to DVD-compliant files, and then burn it to a standard DVD which would happily play in your DVD player (assuming that said player can play PAL DVDs). But if you don't have a DVD burner, or for some other reason need this file to be housed on smaller media, you need to break the file up into its composite parts so that you can get rid of some of them. For example, if there are menus, they need to be ripped out. If there are extras (making-of comments, outtakes, whatever), they need to be ripped out. What I would do is fire up dvdauthor to convert the *.mpg into defined chapters (*.VOB and *.IFO files), then fire up dvd::rip to select just the data chapters (the movie itself, in other words, without the menus and extras), and transcode those chapters to an *avi... in the process you could also reduce the sound quality somewhat, which would also reduce the final file size, and of course the image size, which would reduce the file size as well, but it might not look very good. Alternatively, if it's a 'mixed' DVD (for example, not a movie, but a music/concert DVD with video footage), using the chapter methodology would enable you to encode each video/song as an individual *.avi rather than one giant one. If you tell dvdrip how big you want the resulting transcoded file to be, it will do that, but if all of the data doesn't fit in the size specified (which it likely won't, depending on your settings, which can only do so much), then you'll have two (or four, or six) 100MB files instead of just one. That's about the best I can do for you without knowing more about the construction of the file, and what you're trying to do with it. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: iptables example on Gentoo
Holly Bostick motub at planet.nl writes: Good morning, this is the general users list. If you want the security experts, try gentoo-security For the discussion of security issues and fixes gentoo-hardened For a security hardened version of Gentoo You mean I have to go to this group to find detailed documentation in iptables/netfilter rulesets that are indeed secure, published, and used in more than one place? If you want to discuss comparisons between Gentoo and BSD, this might be the place: agreeded That's all I'm going to say in the face of all this needlessly insulting behaviour. Holly, I have not nor do not intend to insult or constipate anyone. Sincere apologies. However, I find this very strange that published rulesets do not exist for iptables/netfilter, for simple and common things lick a home-office router with (3) nics, including LAN, WAN and DMZ with optional web and dns(internal) servers. If you find my sharing these thoughts with you, and the 50 times I've had to write that I'm interested in iptables/netfilters and not shorewall, then I think you are a bit too sensitive about divergent opinions. sincerely, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] issue on binary merge
On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 18:33 +0200, Sascha Lucas wrote: Hi List, can some explain this? Machine A+B have identical make.conf (expect in 3 USE-falgs), /etc/portage/*, /usr/portage, profile. Machine A: - FEATURES=buildpkg - added USE-flag samba - emerge -uD --newuse world * builds new samba package * rebuilds some packages (kdebase, cups, mplayer etc.) Machine B: - mount PGKDIR of machine A via nfs to PGKDIR on machine B - added USE-flag samba - emerge -uD --newuse --usepkg world * merges binary samba * does not merge anything else (no binary, no ebuild ) It would be nice if I understand why emerge won't remerge binary packages with changed use-flags. It doesn't know that kdebase, cups etc need rebuilding unless you use the --newuse option THX, Sascha. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: iptables example on Gentoo
gentuxx gentuxx at gmail.com writes: I think, perhaps, you misunderstood what I was saying. My understanding of shorewall was that it was a script (or series of scripts) that look for the previously specified config files and do cool stuff with the information contained in them. I was simply stating that in order to put value to the information in the config files, that you would have to know what the scripts do. I was not, in any way, suggesting that you use Shorewall. I can completely understand and sympathize with your need to dissect iptables, and the security it provides. However, I tend to take a top-down approach, as opposed to the bottom-up approach you seem to prefer. OK this is great!. However, I'm a C/assembler hack, with embedded tendencies. Scripts are OK, as most are self explanatory. As a hardware guy, I often start with a microP, and write/add firmware to a custom bootloader. From there, often, as simple state_machine with selected code creates wonderful things; so I'm definately a bottoms up kind of guy. YMMV. Going back to your original questions, I'm not really sure I can help with Q1. However, in regards to Q2, there aren't any config files for iptables. The tables are stored in memory. You can do an iptables-save, which will output a modified version of the rules currently in place, which can subsequently be modified (assuming you understand and duplicate the syntax) and restored (with any changes) using iptables-restore. Otherwise, all of your editing should be done at the command line. I would recommend using a script (of your own design, if so desired) to ease repeatability, and reduce the possibility for mistakes (fat-fingering). Also, a script of this nature would be handy for starting the iptables upon boot (I believe the HOW-TO you referenced covers this). Is this the one? http://www.linuxguruz.com/iptables/scripts/rc.DMZ.firewall.txt I've reference many urls. This one was written for 2.4 based kernels and I'm not sure it's useful for 2.6. That was one of my questions Can you look at it and suggest where it is defective? That way, I can use it as a baseline to learn and develop a more robust (in_memory) ruleset that spawns from a shell script or elsewhere. Or maybe share a 2.6 based script? OK all of this is fantastic! All of the googling and reading I've done has not revealed this. Most of what I find is circa 2.4 and I'm not adept enough to discern what's relevant for 2.4 and 2.6 kernels, yet. Thank you very, very much, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] issue on binary merge
Machine B: - mount PGKDIR of machine A via nfs to PGKDIR on machine B - added USE-flag samba - emerge -uD --newuse --usepkg world * merges binary samba * does not merge anything else (no binary, no ebuild ) It would be nice if I understand why emerge won't remerge binary packages with changed use-flags. It doesn't know that kdebase, cups etc need rebuilding unless you use the --newuse option well on Machine B I did emerge -uD --newuse --usepkg world. Isn't it what you ment? Sascha. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is binary emerge equivalent to source emerge?
Hi Ian,
1) Does this seem like a sensible idea? Will it generally work?
2) Will --usepkg --getbinpkg use binary packages for dependencies?
3) Is the resultant Portage database equivalent to source emerges, especially
in respect of future --updates, --newuse, etc?
4) Am I right to use a Portage snapshot from the current machine?
5) Is this idea so close to the Catalyst idea that I should use its methods
to achieve my aims?
I'm answering to your thread, because I'm also playing with binary merges.
At the moment I'm not realy happy with it. I've played with catalyst/GRP,
PORTAGE_BINHOST (aka --getbinpkg), PKGDIR via nfs (aka --usepkg).
Perhaps there is someone out there who can point me to some docs etc. Or
correct my following statments:
to 1)
- yes it will work
- you have 3 choices how to build your binarys
* GRP with catalyst (usefull if your USE-/CFLAGS-Falgs etc. on the
build system and target system differ)
* quickpkg from allready installed ebuilds
* FEATURES=buildpkg in make.conf (creates bin's on merge)
- the last 2 are usefull if your USE-/CFLAGS-Flags are identical or do
not differ much
- what you need is:
* portage-snapshot (can be done with catalyst)
* stage3 from internet or actual build with catalyst
* binarys build with USE-/CFLAGS-Flags you want on the target
to 2)
- yes binarys are used for deps
- --usepkg looks for binarys in PKGDIR=${PORTDIR}/packages
- --getbinpkg looks for binarys on PORTAGE_BINHOST (I tried ftp)
- both have a only variant which should use only binarys
- the only-variants doesn't make me happy, because they seem to ignore
different USE-Flags
to 3)
- if you mean /var/db/pkg then yes it's the same
- updates seem to work (-kuD world)
- -uD --newuse world (ebuild only) works
- -uD --newuse --usepkg world (binary if possible, else ebuild) does not
work very well
to 4 and 5) may be something in my comments to 1-3.
Perhaps I'm doing something wrong then please tell me the better way.
THX,
Sascha.
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RE: [gentoo-user] iptables example on Gentoo
Wow, that is news to me... I've always just banged out iptables rules and then saved them... On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, Dave Nebinger wrote: I've been trying to build a simple firewall with a DMZ for a web server. Dude, trying to use iptables directly was your first mistake. Take a spin out and look at shorewall (I'm sure others have different recommendations). Shorewall will get you up and running in no time and will easily handle the configuration stuff from your original post. Trying to manage such a complex config using iptables directly is doomed to failure; any mistake in ordering of rules, etc., will break your connectivity. Sticking with a tool like shorewall will simplify rules maintenance and pose less of a problem when performing updates later on. Dave -- Bryan Whitehead Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 4gb mpeg to 100mb xvid?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Holly Bostick wrote: That's about the best I can do for you without knowing more about the construction of the file, and what you're trying to do with it. Well, many people have assumed that it being a 5gb+ file, it was a dvd. Definitely not. It has no menus, no nothing. It's a plain video file. Master copy of a tv program originally on tape, then saved to a digital format. Here is the output of mplayer: MPlayer 1.0pre7try2-3.4.4 (C) 2000-2005 MPlayer Team CPU: Advanced Micro Devices Athlon MP/XP/XP-M Barton (Family: 6, Stepping: 0) Detected cache-line size is 64 bytes CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 1 3DNow2: 1 SSE: 1 SSE2: 0 Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX MMX2 3DNow 3DNowEx SSE 85 audio 196 video codecs Playing work/dd/DD_24_2005.MPG. Cache fill: 0.00% (0 bytes)MPEG-PS file format detected. VIDEO: MPEG2 720x576 (aspect 2) 25.000 fps 9900.0 kbps (1237.5 kbyte/s) == Opening audio decoder: [mp3lib] MPEG layer-2, layer-3 AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 384.0 kbit/25.00% (ratio: 48000-192000) Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm:mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3) == vo: X11 running at 1024x768 with depth 16 and 16 bpp (:0.0 = local display) == Opening video decoder: [mpegpes] MPEG 1/2 Video passthrough VDec: vo config request - 720 x 576 (preferred csp: Mpeg PES) Could not find matching colorspace - retrying with -vf scale... Opening video filter: [scale] The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec. VDecoder init failed :( Opening video decoder: [libmpeg2] MPEG 1/2 Video decoder libmpeg2-v0.4.0b Selected video codec: [mpeg12] vfm:libmpeg2 (MPEG-1 or 2 (libmpeg2)) == Checking audio filter chain for 48000Hz/2ch/s16le - 48000Hz/2ch/s16le... AF_pre: 48000Hz/2ch/s16le AO: [oss] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bps) Building audio filter chain for 48000Hz/2ch/s16le - 48000Hz/2ch/s16le... Starting playback... VDec: vo config request - 720 x 576 (preferred csp: Planar YV12) VDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0) Movie-Aspect is 1.33:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect. VO: [xv] 720x576 = 768x576 Planar YV12 A: 1.7 V: 1.7 A-V: 0.005 ct: 0.036 26/ 26 15% 1% 1.1% 0 0 79% Exiting... (Quit) - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - www.buanzo.com.ar Consultor en Seguridad Informatica KTP Consultores - info AT ktpconsultores.com.ar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDH0RbAlpOsGhXcE0RAk+xAJ406EF7yH1AFeUiwFmVkWx4da1f1wCdFcS6 2/okHq9Tj2+iNz8mRffWJxs= =IkGo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: iptables example on Gentoo
That's all I'm going to say in the face of all this needlessly insulting behaviour. Holly, I have not nor do not intend to insult or constipate anyone. Sincere apologies. However, I find this very strange that published rulesets do not exist for iptables/netfilter, for simple and common things lick a home-office router with (3) nics, including LAN, WAN and DMZ with optional web and dns(internal) servers. If you find my sharing these thoughts with you, and the 50 times I've had to write that I'm interested in iptables/netfilters and not shorewall, then I think you are a bit too sensitive about divergent opinions. Up to now I haven't really wanted to have someone bounced from the list; but your lack of sensitivity and generally insulting manners make you the first obvious candidate for such a bouncing. Good morning, this is the general users list. If you want the security experts, try gentoo-security For the discussion of security issues and fixes gentoo-hardened For a security hardened version of Gentoo You mean I have to go to this group to find detailed documentation in iptables/netfilter rulesets that are indeed secure, published, and used in more than one place? Why do you think that iptables/netfilter is exclusive to gentoo? It is a general linux question; iptables is not a product of gentoo. There are no such published, shared rule sets because each site has it's own security requirements and places different priorities upon the rules. Some will prioritize the connection tracking rules above the service rules (to optimize outbound active connections over new service connections) whilst others will prioritize them in the opposite direction. And the services themselves can be prioritized differently. If you really want the down and dirty on iptables, go out and buy Linux Firewalls by Ziegler and Constantine. It describes every nook and cranny of iptables. In the mean time, welcome to my kill file. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: iptables example on Gentoo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James wrote: gentuxx gentuxx at gmail.com writes: I think, perhaps, you misunderstood what I was saying. My understanding of shorewall was that it was a script (or series of scripts) that look for the previously specified config files and do cool stuff with the information contained in them. I was simply stating that in order to put value to the information in the config files, that you would have to know what the scripts do. I was not, in any way, suggesting that you use Shorewall. I can completely understand and sympathize with your need to dissect iptables, and the security it provides. However, I tend to take a top-down approach, as opposed to the bottom-up approach you seem to prefer. OK this is great!. However, I'm a C/assembler hack, with embedded tendencies. Scripts are OK, as most are self explanatory. As a hardware guy, I often start with a microP, and write/add firmware to a custom bootloader. From there, often, as simple state_machine with selected code creates wonderful things; so I'm definately a bottoms up kind of guy. YMMV. Going back to your original questions, I'm not really sure I can help with Q1. However, in regards to Q2, there aren't any config files for iptables. The tables are stored in memory. You can do an iptables-save, which will output a modified version of the rules currently in place, which can subsequently be modified (assuming you understand and duplicate the syntax) and restored (with any changes) using iptables-restore. Otherwise, all of your editing should be done at the command line. I would recommend using a script (of your own design, if so desired) to ease repeatability, and reduce the possibility for mistakes (fat-fingering). Also, a script of this nature would be handy for starting the iptables upon boot (I believe the HOW-TO you referenced covers this). Is this the one? http://www.linuxguruz.com/iptables/scripts/rc.DMZ.firewall.txt No, this one. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml I've reference many urls. This one was written for 2.4 based kernels and I'm not sure it's useful for 2.6. That was one of my questions Can you look at it and suggest where it is defective? That way, I can use it as a baseline to learn and develop a more robust (in_memory) ruleset that spawns from a shell script or elsewhere. Or maybe share a 2.6 based script? OK all of this is fantastic! All of the googling and reading I've done has not revealed this. Most of what I find is circa 2.4 and I'm not adept enough to discern what's relevant for 2.4 and 2.6 kernels, yet. Thank you very, very much, James As far as functionality and rule set development, I don't think there is that much of a difference between 2.4 and 2.6. I'm sure there are tons of cool things that go on under the hood that I don't really know about, but the implementation is basically the same. 2.6 kernels may offer newer targets, different kernel hooks, etc., etc., but like I said, that's a little beyond my current scope. Why not compile a 2.4 kernel (with netfilter), build a ruleset, then load up your 2.6 kernel and see what breaks (if anything)? - -- gentux echo hfouvyAdpy/ofu | perl -pe 's/(.)/chr(ord($1)-1)/ge' gentux's gpg fingerprint == 34CE 2E97 40C7 EF6E EC40 9795 2D81 924A 6996 0993 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDH0X1LYGSSmmWCZMRAlBDAJ9xan8nam9i93nWTKL8CkcFJsb1YgCdE2V4 Pw+Zo2IuXCqMabsrEEryjFQ= =qppu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] dev-util/meld-1.0.0 won't run
Meld doesn't work. Bugs.gentoo.org shows Zarro Boogs found for keyword meld. Before I submit a report, any ideas? locutus bin # emerge -a meld [ebuild R ] dev-util/meld-1.0.0 locutus bin # which meld /usr/bin/meld locutus bin # /usr/bin/meld Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/meld, line 87, in ? import meldapp File /usr/lib/meld/meldapp.py, line 27, in ? import prefs File /usr/lib/meld/prefs.py, line 52, in ? import gconf ImportError: No module named gconf But I have gconf it seems... locutus ~ # emerge -a gconf [ebuild R ] gnome-base/gconf-2.10.1-r1 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: iptables example on Gentoo
James schreef: Holly Bostick motub at planet.nl writes: Good morning, this is the general users list. If you want the security experts, try gentoo-security For the discussion of security issues and fixes gentoo-hardened For a security hardened version of Gentoo You mean I have to go to this group to find detailed documentation in iptables/netfilter rulesets that are indeed secure, published, and used in more than one place? I mean that if such documentation exists, that group would be much more likely to know where it is (because that group is focused on such issues and knowledge) than this group would be (where such knowledge is more likely to be a random roll of the dice as to whether anyone around today happens to know about it). Now, of course for detailed documentation on iptables/netfilter, the place to start, for me, at least, would be http://www.iptables.org/documentation/index.html#documentation-howto . As for 'published rulesets', well, so far I've found http://linux.unimelb.edu.au/server/course/fc3/iptables.html (see examples) http://www.hackinglinuxexposed.com/articles/20021008.html http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~dranch/LINUX/ipmasq/examples/rc.firewall-iptables http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/ (see http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/stronger-firewall-examples.html#RC.FIREWALL-IPTABLES-STRONGER) http://www.linuxtopia.org/Linux_Firewall_iptables/index.html (see example scripts beginning at http://www.linuxtopia.org/Linux_Firewall_iptables/x5753.html) http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-1436652-highlight-iptables+rulesets.html?sid=b777f7a8f3ef392e9cb4d14f0bcccfa1#1436652 That's all the Googling I feel like right now, but I'm sure that gentoo-security might know more places such things are likely to be found (especially any gentoo-specific resources). snip That's all I'm going to say in the face of all this needlessly insulting behaviour. Holly, I have not nor do not intend to insult or constipate anyone. Sincere apologies. However, I find this very strange that published rulesets do not exist for iptables/netfilter, for simple and common things lick a home-office router with (3) nics, including LAN, WAN and DMZ with optional web and dns(internal) servers. If you find my sharing these thoughts with you, and the 50 times I've had to write that I'm interested in iptables/netfilters and not shorewall, then I think you are a bit too sensitive about divergent opinions. The really funny thing is a year ago, this list was full of persons that debunked OpenBSD's security supremacy. Now all I'm getting is a lot of 'hot air' and 'bull-loney'. Why are so many people scared to manage there own firewall rulesets directly? This is not a 'divergent opinion'.. it is an opinion, true, but there is nothing for it to diverge from (since this is not a debate about OpenBSD's supremacy or lack thereof, nor about whether anyone is 'scared' to manage their own rulesets directly). I thought (gentoo)linux was suppose to be equal to or superior to OpenBSD for security and every other aspect of computing? This is not a 'divergent opinion', because this is again not a debate over, nor is this a forum for debate concerning, whether Gentoo is superior to anything at all, this is a user help mailing list. (Booo) this is where the Gentooers mess their britches? Excuse me? This is somehow not a taunt? Whatever. Though what I wonder is, is iptables under BSD so radically different than iptables under Linux that somehow you can't simply use or adapt the oh-so-easy BSD rulesets that you already have to your current conditions? Or, I would wonder, if I didn't have concerns that I value higher taking priority over my thinking about this at all. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 4gb mpeg to 100mb xvid?
Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: That's about the best I can do for you without knowing more about the construction of the file, and what you're trying to do with it. Well, many people have assumed that it being a 5gb+ file, it was a dvd. Definitely not. It has no menus, no nothing. It's a plain video file. Master copy of a tv program originally on tape, then saved to a digital format. Direct from tv? Use avidemux or any video editing program to get rid of the commercials then. And in any case, the file was definitely saved to digital format with the intention to convert and burn to PAL DVD; you don't just get 720x504 and 25fps by accident. But you still haven't said why the final output file has to be so small. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 4gb mpeg to 100mb xvid?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Holly Bostick wrote: Direct from tv? Use avidemux or any video editing program to get rid of the commercials then. Not direct from tv. The people who record (with cameras) and then join the pieces provide this file. I can't do that. The producer asked me to do this transformation. And, indeed, they've done it before, but to wmv format. They stream the program online: broadband: mms://200.80.72.153/dd24_2005.wmv dialup: mms://200.80.72.153/dd24_2005baja.wmv And in any case, the file was definitely saved to digital format with the intention to convert and burn to PAL DVD; you don't just get 720x504 and 25fps by accident. Yeah, I agree. but it still has no menues :P - If I could put it available for any of you to help me out with this, I'd do it. But 4.5gb... But you still haven't said why the final output file has to be so small. To be shared over bittorrent :P - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - www.buanzo.com.ar Consultor en Seguridad Informatica KTP Consultores - info AT ktpconsultores.com.ar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDH0vUAlpOsGhXcE0RAotrAJ4t6ZopaLKuz6C1ynGHeCjRi53LjwCfW+Wj 3YrWnMIQzOKbbjwuy+5jEMY= =OMSA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] issue on binary merge
Sascha Lucas wrote: Hi List, Machine B: - mount PGKDIR of machine A via nfs to PGKDIR on machine B - added USE-flag samba - emerge -uD --newuse --usepkg world * merges binary samba * does not merge anything else (no binary, no ebuild ) It would be nice if I understand why emerge won't remerge binary packages with changed use-flags. Hi Sascha If you do --pretend --verbose, does it show the changed USE flags for the packages? Not sure if 'world' does this, but you could try the individual packages that you expect to be rebuilt. IIRC, it appears in green (on a colour screen...) with a + and * next to the USE flag. If the flags aren't shown as 'new' then its not strictly a problem with the merge, but one with the way the flag changes are being enumerated. If they are shown as changed then at least Portage is working out that it would like to have new builds of the packages, and any failure is presumably due to the way this cascades down to the binary merge mechanism, such as the ability of a binary package to declare what USE flags it was built with. Not a solution, but hopefully it'll add insight. IanC -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Errors while updating scrollkeeper
checking which XML catalog to use... /etc/xml/catalog checking for DocBook XML DTD... configure: error: not found. Make sure you have the DocBook DTD installed and ensure that it is registered in /etc/xml/catalog. !!! Please attach the config.log to your bug report: !!! /var/tmp/portage/scrollkeeper-0.3.14-r1/work/scrollkeeper-0.3.14/config.log !!! ERROR: app-text/scrollkeeper-0.3.14-r1 failed. !!! Function econf, Line 485, Exitcode 0 !!! econf failed !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. i remereged xml-dtd-docbook and still get it. any ideas? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Determine the original installation date
With redhat/fedora, you could find WHEN the box was installed using rpm -qi basesystem. I am switching most of my boxes to gentoo and I would like to tell when the ORIGINAL install occured. Any pointers? Vernon -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is binary emerge equivalent to source emerge?
Sascha Lucas wrote: - -uD --newuse --usepkg world (binary if possible, else ebuild) does not work very well I've also had problems with --usepkg. When it gives me problems, as a workaround, I force emerge to do what I want with emerge --usepkgonly --nodeps --oneshot for each and every binpkg that I want merged. If I think that this may have broken something then afterwards I use revdep-rebuild -p to check linking integrity. Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 4gb mpeg to 100mb xvid?
Okay, I am no video expert, but On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 04:49:47PM -0300, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote: Playing work/dd/DD_24_2005.MPG. Cache fill: 0.00% (0 bytes)MPEG-PS file format detected. VIDEO: MPEG2 720x576 (aspect 2) 25.000 fps 9900.0 kbps (1237.5 kbyte/s) == Opening audio decoder: [mp3lib] MPEG layer-2, layer-3 AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 384.0 kbit/25.00% (ratio: 48000-192000) Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm:mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3) == vo: X11 running at 1024x768 with depth 16 and 16 bpp (:0.0 = local display) == Opening video decoder: [mpegpes] MPEG 1/2 Video passthrough VDec: vo config request - 720 x 576 (preferred csp: Mpeg PES) Could not find matching colorspace - retrying with -vf scale... Opening video filter: [scale] The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec. VDecoder init failed :( Opening video decoder: [libmpeg2] MPEG 1/2 Video decoder libmpeg2-v0.4.0b Selected video codec: [mpeg12] vfm:libmpeg2 (MPEG-1 or 2 (libmpeg2)) == The resolution and bitrate on the video seems suspiciously high to me as a digitized version of TV program on Tape. You are talking about 8 times as much information as a normal mpeg1 dump from a VCD (and twice the information compared to the one DVD i have lying around). Of course, not knowing anything about where you got the originals from, I have no idea whether my wild guess is anywhere near accurate. W -- Is there any theorem on how many pieces of chalk I'm supposed to break. ~DeathMech, S. Sondhi. P-town PHY 205 Sortir en Pantoufles: up 26 days, 23:33 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] issue on binary merge
If you do --pretend --verbose, does it show the changed USE flags for the packages? Not sure if 'world' does this, but you could try the individual packages that you expect to be rebuilt. IIRC, it appears in green (on a colour screen...) with a + and * next to the USE flag. emerge -uD --pretend --verbose --usepkg --newuse world does not show the change in USE-Flags. However it installes some software cased by the new USE-Flag (in my example samba). I run equery hasuse my_new_flag and the merged this pkgs with: emerge -1 --usepkg --pretend --verbose pkg_spec_from_equery then the change in USE-Flags are showen and my _correct_ binarys are used. Not a solution, but hopefully it'll add insight. it seems we are actually 2 who worked at the same time with binarys :-) Sascha. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub over the top of Win XP
As posted on /. recently, On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 12:12:21PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Beyond that I don't pretend to know anything. The one thing that always confuses me is the difference between placing grub in the MBR and placing it in a partition. It is my understanding that the MBR is a separate part of the drive structure, and is not part of any partition. Is this true? When we place an bootloader in the MBR that's what the system jumps to first? After that the bootloader in the MBR can transfer to either an operating system or to a second boot loader. I've done this where I had a copy of grub from Gentoo in the MBR, and then a copy of grub in a partition. Each copy had their own grub.conf file and managed it's own set of kernels, etc. However, what Windows does is a bit beyond me. I suppose it places it's own bootloader in the MBR. We then overwrite it, but then we have a command to jump to that OS. (chainloader +1 I suppose?) a good source for some basics on how bootloaders work and why we need them and what the heck MBR actually is: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-bootload.html?ca=dgr-lnxw01LILOandGRUB W -- If your're scattering a fly off an elephant, you don't worry about the mass of the elephant. But since we're physicists, lets consider the alternate example. In this case, we scatter the elephant off the fly. ~DeathMech, S. Sondhi. P-town PHY 205 Sortir en Pantoufles: up 26 days, 23:48 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] what happened to php and mod_php?
I currently run php 5.0.4 as build thru portage For some reason, portage only has up to 4.4.0 now. Was php 5.x abandoned? What's going on? http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=mod_php looks like only 4.4.0-r1 is around now... what the heck? -- Bryan Whitehead Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: iptables example on Gentoo
As far as functionality and rule set development, I don't think there is that much of a difference between 2.4 and 2.6. I'm sure there are tons of cool things that go on under the hood that I don't really know about, but the implementation is basically the same. 2.6 kernels may offer newer targets, different kernel hooks, etc., etc., but like I said, that's a little beyond my current scope. Why not compile a 2.4 kernel (with netfilter), build a ruleset, then load up your 2.6 kernel and see what breaks (if anything)? There are new targets and matches in the 2.6 kernel. Also it is my understanding that the internal tables are managed differently, in that the 2.6 implementation is faster in the table processing. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 4gb mpeg to 100mb xvid?
Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: Direct from tv? Use avidemux or any video editing program to get rid of the commercials then. Not direct from tv. The people who record (with cameras) and then join the pieces provide this file. I can't do that. The producer asked me to do this transformation. And, indeed, they've done it before, but to wmv format. They stream the program online: broadband: mms://200.80.72.153/dd24_2005.wmv dialup: mms://200.80.72.153/dd24_2005baja.wmv And in any case, the file was definitely saved to digital format with the intention to convert and burn to PAL DVD; you don't just get 720x504 and 25fps by accident. Yeah, I agree. but it still has no menues :P - If I could put it available for any of you to help me out with this, I'd do it. But 4.5gb... But you still haven't said why the final output file has to be so small. To be shared over bittorrent :P U people share full DVD- size files over BT all the time. If it's an issue of not wanting to seed for the length of time it would take to get more seeders, well, then don't share over BT, because you 'have to' do that, no matter how big the file is. And heaven knows I wouldn't be happy with the file I got (a full DVD shrunk to 100MB), even if it only took me half an hour rather than 2 days. Or is the issue that the vendor doesn't want people to have to wait for 2 days to get the file? I'm not sure that's reasonable; it's BT (so people are used to it not being instantaneous downloading), and this is, after all, a full-quality file that is (almost) ready to burn to DVD. If that's what the expected customers want, then they'll likely be willing to wait. You might consider offering two versions; 'low-quality' (reduced to something like 320xwhatever), and 'high(er)-quality' (at either the original A/R, or a slightly lower one). Or you might consider buying a proprietary encoding system (Real, OT), or installing Windows (or Windows under VMWare), for the express purpose of getting these files down to some tiny size (you're presumably getting paid, so it's a business expense). But there's no explicit reason as far as BT is concerned, that you can't share the file as is. Rar or Tar.gz or zip the file up and share it, or encode it down to an xvid (which will likely reduce the size at least somewhat, but anybody correct me if I'm wrong) and *then* rar/tar.gz/zip it up and share it. I think you're trying to solve the wrong problem-- your actual problem is not that the file is 'too big' but it is in some way too big for you to work with in the way that you seem to need to, for reasons unknown (insofar as there is no bt-specific reason that a 4.5 GB file cannot be shared, but there clearly is a you-specific reason that you can't do this, presumably that your client has specified these restrictions). Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Errors while updating scrollkeeper
problem solved On 9/7/05, Ivan Lucian Aron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: checking which XML catalog to use... /etc/xml/catalog checking for DocBook XML DTD... configure: error: not found. Make sure you have the DocBook DTD installed and ensure that it is registered in /etc/xml/catalog. !!! Please attach the config.log to your bug report: !!! /var/tmp/portage/scrollkeeper-0.3.14-r1/work/scrollkeeper-0.3.14/config.log !!! ERROR: app-text/scrollkeeper-0.3.14-r1 failed. !!! Function econf, Line 485, Exitcode 0 !!! econf failed !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. i remereged xml-dtd-docbook and still get it. any ideas? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 4gb mpeg to 100mb xvid?
check out this webpage: http://www.transcoding.org/cgi-bin/transcode?back=Examples you can start the encode with crazy options to make it small... and then view it while encoding to see if the quality is good enough. On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi people, I was wondering, do you have any pointers to transcode an mpeg file to an xvid? The original is a +4gb file, and I need to create a good quality of aprox. 100mb xvid file. What are your suggestions? Any interesting sites to read about this? scripts? ebuilds? I've done some research in the area for the last two days, but I am definitely not a video guru, and many things I do not understand. Yours, - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - www.buanzo.com.ar Consultor en Seguridad Informatica KTP Consultores - info AT ktpconsultores.com.ar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDHy8dAlpOsGhXcE0RAtG1AJ4hKwTIoDebDzICqNTJv3ZHe4fXawCfWLeh J2IsjTmur5KhaN5MUb3ty00= =dgAi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Bryan Whitehead Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 4gb mpeg to 100mb xvid?
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Holly Bostick wrote: Rar or Tar.gz or zip the file up and share it, or encode it down to an xvid (which will likely reduce the size at least somewhat, but anybody correct me if I'm wrong) and *then* rar/tar.gz/zip it up and share it. And how do I easily encode it down to an xvid? -- Buanzo -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is binary emerge equivalent to source emerge?
I've also had problems with --usepkg. When it gives me problems, as a workaround, I force emerge to do what I want with emerge --usepkgonly --nodeps --oneshot for each and every binpkg that I want merged. If I think that this may have broken something then afterwards I use revdep-rebuild -p to check linking integrity. thats nearly the same like I do: emerge --usepkg --oneshot binpkgs. So I assume, I'm not alone with this problem (--newuse --usepkg -uD). The question is, is there a missunderstanding or a bug? Sascha. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] what happened to php and mod_php?
Bryan Whitehead wrote: I currently run php 5.0.4 as build thru portage For some reason, portage only has up to 4.4.0 now. Was php 5.x abandoned? What's going on? http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=mod_php looks like only 4.4.0-r1 is around now... what the heck? It's part of the new split between php4 and php5. mod-php-5 is in /usr/portage/dev-php5/ now though how you would use or active it I'm not sure. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] issue on binary merge
Sascha Lucas wrote: emerge -1 --usepkg --pretend --verbose pkg_spec_from_equery then the change in USE-Flags are showen and my _correct_ binarys are used. There's probably a good reason for it being the way it is, but it doesn't sound as transparent as we might like. A further interesting scenario might be to have a binary package available built with different USE flags to those on the target machine, and seeing if it gets installed or not. I guess it shouldn't. But then there's the CFLAGS issue as well, and I'm even more unsure how that's supposed to be handled. I'm still pretty new to Gentoo, but is this perhaps related to the feature I've read about (and maybe misremembered) regarding only packages that you explicity emerge going into world (dependencies don't)? I wonder if you'd see different results if you explicitly emerged cups rather than it having been implicity emerged due to a dependency. By doing the emerge you described you've 'promoted' those packages from implicit to explicit emerge. IanC -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] what happened to php and mod_php?
Bryan Whitehead wrote: I currently run php 5.0.4 as build thru portage For some reason, portage only has up to 4.4.0 now. Was php 5.x abandoned? What's going on? http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=mod_php looks like only 4.4.0-r1 is around now... what the heck? http://svn.gnqs.org/projects/gentoo-php-overlay/file/docs/php-upgrading.html?format=raw -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Determine the original installation date
Vernon A. Fort wrote: With redhat/fedora, you could find WHEN the box was installed using rpm -qi basesystem. I am switching most of my boxes to gentoo and I would like to tell when the ORIGINAL install occured. Any pointers? Hi Possibly a little empirical, but on things like the mod date on the root lost+found directory and the first few lines of /var/log/emerge.log come to mind. IanC -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] issue on binary merge
emerge -1 --usepkg --pretend --verbose pkg_spec_from_equery then the change in USE-Flags are showen and my _correct_ binarys are used. There's probably a good reason for it being the way it is, but it doesn't sound as transparent as we might like. yes may be... if so, I would like to know the reason :-) A further interesting scenario might be to have a binary package available built with different USE flags to those on the target machine, and seeing if it gets installed or not. I guess it shouldn't. But then there's the CFLAGS issue as well, and I'm even more unsure how that's supposed to be handled. If you build a binary with different USE flags then on the target it would be merged as ebuild and not as binary. But this seems only to work with --usepkg not with --getbinpkg. ?? CFLAGS handling is done in the same way like USE flags. You can use the tbz2tool to split your binary into data (tar) and info (text). In this info-text is every thing stored like USe, CFALGS, I'm still pretty new to Gentoo, but is this perhaps related to the feature I've read about (and maybe misremembered) regarding only packages that you explicity emerge going into world (dependencies don't)? I wonder if you'd see different results if you explicitly emerged cups rather than it having been implicity emerged due to a dependency. By doing the emerge you described you've 'promoted' those packages from implicit to explicit emerge. Hm... yes every time you type emege it will be recorded in the world-file, expect emerge --oneshot (-1)... so my explicit merge will not be recorded in world it stays what it was before (world or dependency). So I understand --usepkg in this way to use binary if all USE/C flags etc match. If not fallback to ebuilds. So I know I have the right binary pkgs, why does: emerge -uDpv --newuse world and emerge -uDpv --newuse --usepkg world show different results? Sascha. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: iptables example on Gentoo
Dave Nebinger dnebinger at joat.com writes: I know iptables/netfilter. I've worked through all of the online documentation, I've read iptables books, I've implemented firewalls using just iptables. got any scripts/ files to share? Knowing all of that information, I still suggest using a tool to help manage iptables. OK, after I learn raw iptables/netfilter. The reason is this: iptables, like PF on openbsd, allows for fine-grained control over every aspect of the network traffic going in and out of the box. Most folks, however, have little need for such fine-grained control over their firewall. They want a simple set of rules that allow outgoing traffic and certain incoming traffic. They don't care about masquerading vs DNAT/SNAT, what to enable/disable on the ICMP packets, which ones to reject vs deny, etc. They don't need a detailed explanation of why the order of the addition of rules to the table impact network performance as well as whether a certain rule actually disables traffic that a later rule would actually allow. So why is it so necessary to get down and dirty with iptables when there are supporting tools that manage all of these details quite well. Well, I hack embedded systems, often with only a state_machine/executive/min_rtos with a custom IP stack. Being able to 'analyze code segments' and discern-learn, gives me a solid specification/understanding to write custom assembler/c code for micro's or DSPs. Just one reason. I have many, many more. Finding templates and scripts for robust IPtable/netfilter rules should not be like pulling teeth I'm not trying to oversimply or make demunitive comments about iptables/netfilter, I'm just surprised that someone of your caliber, has not served up iptables/netfilters in clear, discernable examples, exclusively specific to iptables/netfilters. Sure shorewall and other efforts are noble, for the majority of users, but, surely there are more folks with my sort of interests in iptables/netfilters. Oh, come on. Using a tool to assist in rules maintenance hardly qualifies as being afraid. Using a tool to assist in rules maintenance means you have better things to do with your time than operate at such a low level. Um, in my opinion, the lowest level, is frequently referred to as foundation, and that lack of foundation is why many programmers do not succeed. They do not have a foundational understanding of kernel, processes and files. Iptables/netfilters are as important as the scheduler, if you are going to network anything with a 2.6 linux kernel. Per your idiom, we should throw out higher-level programming languages because they take us all away from knowing microcode and assembler. Beautiful comments. I could not have said it better. Java is useful, perl is OK, Bourne necessary, but the MASTERS of computer engineering do it in assembler. Ever heard of the smartest or most accomplished Computer Scientist in our lifetime? Knuth.. Nobody even comes close to his body of work. Not Plauger not anyone. He has virtually cataloged most know algorithms. Impressive work, all in assembler. Not all would agree with this assessement, but few, if they bother to look at his 'body of work' are anything but tolally in awe of this man and his works. You might want to peruse what he has to say about high level languages, including C and C++. YMMV. http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth The tools exist because they are an aid, not a crutch. tools are better once one has mastered the fundamentals. iptables/netfilters is fundamental to secure linux(embedded or workstation or server). If you think iptables should be so easy to pick up, then go pick it up and make it work for you - no one is stopping you from that task. Agreed. I was just looking to jump-start the process by exuming robust base-line files to begin the journey What are the author and title to those books you have refered to and which are based on 2.6 kernel technology? They are up to the task, which is why linux is used a heck of a lot more than openbsd... This is good. Get fired up. Let's publish some raw, robust iptable/netfilter scipts, and hack/penetration-test the crap out of the rulesets. That establishes a proven foundation upon which much confidence can be built. Surely, more folks other than Russell Coker, know how to do this, and have publish a few cook_books somewhere. If not, why? Iptables, as well, can be quite elaborate. Discernable is another question entirely. If you know what you're doing, you can create a discernable set of rules using custom chains and appropriate ordering. Most often, though, what you'll see is the list of rules in some quasi order which is supposed to satisfy security and accessibility requirements, but hardly show up as being discernable. OK, where do I read/learn more? Do you have any books you recommend? If you have ruleset capabilities, then look at this example, and tell me
Re: [gentoo-user] dev-util/meld-1.0.0 won't run
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 13:00:55 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote: Meld doesn't work. Bugs.gentoo.org shows Zarro Boogs found for keyword meld. Before I submit a report, any ideas? Search for ALL meld, otherwise closed bugs are excluded from the search. -- Neil Bothwick How do I set my laser printer to stun? pgplHU2I1TILD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] 4gb mpeg to 100mb xvid?
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 18:30:34 -0300 (ART), Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote: Rar or Tar.gz or zip the file up and share it, or encode it down to an xvid (which will likely reduce the size at least somewhat, but anybody correct me if I'm wrong) and *then* rar/tar.gz/zip it up and share it. rar/gzip/7zip/whatever will not significantly compress and already compressed file, they may even make it slightly larger. And how do I easily encode it down to an xvid? You could try gtranscode. -- Neil Bothwick My Go this amn keyboar oesn't have any 's. pgp3QKgmDgwT7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Determine the original installation date
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:36:59 -0500, Vernon A. Fort wrote: With redhat/fedora, you could find WHEN the box was installed using rpm -qi basesystem. I am switching most of my boxes to gentoo and I would like to tell when the ORIGINAL install occured. Any pointers? head /var/log/emerge.log should do it, unless you logrotated it. -- Neil Bothwick Q: How does a Zen Master order a hot dog? A: Make me one with everything. pgpJPcJBAnjgK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] 4gb mpeg to 100mb xvid?
Hi On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 06:30:34PM -0300, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Holly Bostick wrote: Rar or Tar.gz or zip the file up and share it, or encode it down to an xvid (which will likely reduce the size at least somewhat, but anybody correct me if I'm wrong) and *then* rar/tar.gz/zip it up and share it. And how do I easily encode it down to an xvid? http://www.bunkus.org/dvdripping4linux/single/index.html#transcoding dvd::rip is available as media-video/dvdrip or you can just emerge transcode and deal with the command line interface. -- My mind is glowing. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 27 days, 1:35 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 4gb mpeg to 100mb xvid?
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 10:53:34PM +0200, Holly Bostick wrote: But you still haven't said why the final output file has to be so small. To be shared over bittorrent :P U people share full DVD- size files over BT all the time. If it's an issue of not wanting to seed for the length of time it would take to get more seeders, well, then don't share over BT, because you 'have to' do that, no matter how big the file is. And heaven knows I wouldn't be happy with the file I got (a full DVD shrunk to 100MB), even if it only took me half an hour rather than 2 days. I know I am more likely to download files under 1GB than those above. Even with Bittorrent, which allows the sharing of large files, when dealing with unknown content, I still prefer NOT to give up 4G of my harddrive space. And I am sure a lot of users feel the same way. Or is the issue that the vendor doesn't want people to have to wait for 2 days to get the file? I'm not sure that's reasonable; it's BT (so people are used to it not being instantaneous downloading), and this is, after all, a full-quality file that is (almost) ready to burn to DVD. If that's what the expected customers want, then they'll likely be willing to wait. You might consider offering two versions; 'low-quality' (reduced to something like 320xwhatever), and 'high(er)-quality' (at either the original A/R, or a slightly lower one). I think that's a good idea. I think you're trying to solve the wrong problem-- your actual problem is not that the file is 'too big' but it is in some way too big for you to work with in the way that you seem to need to, for reasons unknown (insofar as there is no bt-specific reason that a 4.5 GB file cannot be shared, but there clearly is a you-specific reason that you can't do this, presumably that your client has specified these restrictions). Hum, my feeling is that his client actually wants people to download the files? A brief scan of the various bittorrent forums/boards that I visit tells me that full DVD sized contents can usually only survive if it is a boot-legged copy of a full movie, or pr0n. Other things tends to get ignored if it takes 2 days to download. Like I said: if you don't know whether the content is good or not, would you be willing to wait 2 days and sacrifice 4 G of harddrive space? W -- Why does the chicken cross the road? Einstein: it's not the chicken crossing the road, it is the road crossing the chicken. Heisenberg: well, if you know it is moving, you can't know where it is; and if you know where it is, you can't really know where it's going. Therefore you can't know for certain that the chicken is actually crossing the road. von Neumann: it satisfies the Minimax theorem for worm finding. Schroedinger: not really. It is in the state of crossing and not crossing at the same time. Until you observe it, you can't really be sure. Pauli: Well, it must be that there's another chicken of the same shape, size, color, taste, smell, etc. on this side of the road... Newton: an unbalanced force Bohr: Because it is excited, and because it can't stay on the road... Feynman: (dum, dum, dong, dum-da, dum, dong) Ah... Old MacDonald had a farm... E I E I O And on this farm he has a chicken... E I E I O Sortir en Pantoufles: up 27 days, 1:36 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is binary emerge equivalent to source emerge?
Sascha Lucas wrote: I've also had problems with --usepkg. When it gives me problems, as a workaround, I force emerge to do what I want with emerge --usepkgonly --nodeps --oneshot for each and every binpkg that I want merged. If I think that this may have broken something then afterwards I use revdep-rebuild -p to check linking integrity. thats nearly the same like I do: emerge --usepkg --oneshot binpkgs. So I assume, I'm not alone with this problem (--newuse --usepkg -uD). The question is, is there a missunderstanding or a bug? Sascha. There are a few open bugs related to binpkg handling. Attached is a script that prints out the use flags of a binpkg (similar to emerge -pv output). I you believe that you have discovered an unreported bug, then please file a new bug at bugs.gentoo.org. Zac #!/usr/bin/python import sys if len(sys.argv)!=2: print usage: %s tbz2 file % sys.argv[0] sys.exit(1) sys.path = [/usr/lib/portage/pym]+sys.path import xpak mytbz2=xpak.tbz2(sys.argv[1]) myuse=mytbz2.getelements(USE) myiuse=mytbz2.getelements(IUSE) for use in myiuse: operator=- if use in myuse: operator=+ sys.stdout.write( operator + use + ) print
Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist
If they worked previously, they are probably compiled into the kernel. I find this is a mistake unless you have a specific reason for doing so - being able to remove/add modules helps track down weird problems like this, and some things just work best as a module. I take it that it is a usb wireless mouse ? (coz of the batteries). If so, monitor the syslog while adding or removing the usb plug. If its recognised, you will see messages. I doubt the batteries are the problem as with a wireless mouse, its the base unit that when plugged in will cause the /dev node to be created and you dont have them. If I am wrong about the mouse, exactly what type of mouse and ports are you trying to use (as you have probably gathered, this has a bearing on whats happening) BillK On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 10:00 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 9/6/2005 9:53 PM W.Kenworthy wrote: use lsmod to get the module list. The modules are usbmouse and psmouse (not sure if you have said what mouse type you are using) . Note that you will need to revisit your kernel configuration if you dont have them. If they dont show in lsmod, try modprobe psmouse etc. Thanks for the reply. I have neither usbmouse nor psmouse in my lsmod output. Trying to load with modprobe doesn't work either: tv mythtv # modprobe psmouse FATAL: Module psmouse not found. tv mythtv # modprobe usbmouse FATAL: Module usbmouse not found. Because I haven't made any changes, I suspect my system never used them. I'll try changing the batteries in the mouse as another poster suggested. If that doesn't solve it, then I'll venture into this further. Thanks, Drew On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 21:03 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 9/6/2005 8:49 PM W.Kenworthy wrote: The module thats responsible for /dev/input/mouse0 creates the node when it loads via udev: is the modules loaded? /dev/mouse is usually (on I come from the FreeBSD world and thus, I'm a linux newb. Sorry for the simple questions. What module should I look for? How can I check to see if it's loaded? newer systems) a symlink to /dev/input/mouse0 if it exists. /dev/input/mice is a concentrator. i.e., on my laptop I have a ps2 mouse (actually the gspot/touchpad) and a plugged in usb mouse. All three work through /dev/input/mice at the same time. Individually they are accessed via /dev/input/mouseX. Thanks for the explanation. To test try cat /dev/input/mice and move the mouse - rubbish will print to terminal if its working. CTRL-C to exit. No rubbish. Not working. Thanks for your help. Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: iptables example on Gentoo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James wrote: Dave Nebinger dnebinger at joat.com writes: BIIIG SNIP A beautiful woman once asked why she married the mechanic out of all the numerous suitors beckoning to her. She replied because he torn it up on the first night, and has been working on it ever since. I like to tear up low level code and put it back together, piece by piece, too. That's how I learn, and I find it throughly enjoyable. Why not just sit down and read the source? ;-) [SNIP] James - -- gentux echo hfouvyAdpy/ofu | perl -pe 's/(.)/chr(ord($1)-1)/ge' gentux's gpg fingerprint == 34CE 2E97 40C7 EF6E EC40 9795 2D81 924A 6996 0993 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDH30HLYGSSmmWCZMRApNRAKDWk+iI4AjWDzWtM4Nhs0jr1abZ0wCbBHv+ 8KezxRR8XEe8ZN3/ERM43i4= =LS3H -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Error when emerging Gnome
While executing an emerge gnome I get the following error: Unpacking apmd_3.2.1-4.diff.gz to /var/tmp/portage/apmd-3.2.1_p4/work * Applying apmd_3.2.1-4.diff ... [ ok ] Source unpacked. libtool --quiet --mode=compile gcc -c -O -g -Wall -pipe -I. -I/usr/src/linux/include -I/usr/src/linux-2.2/include -I /usr/src/linux-2.0/include -DVERSION=\3.2.1\ -DDEFAULT_PROXY_NAME=\/etc/apmd_proxy\ apmlib.c libtool --quiet --mode=link gcc -o libapm.la apmlib.lo -rpath /usr/lib -version-info 1:0 i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/../../../crti.o: No such file or directory i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/crtbeginS.o: No such file or directory i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/crtendS.o: No such file or directory i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/../../../crtn.o: No such file or directory make: *** [libapm.la] Error 1 !!! ERROR: sys-apps/apmd-3.2.1_p4 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 41, Exitcode 2 !!! (no error message) !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. I assume that this error is due to some dependancy missing, or a library conflict. I have searched Bugzilla and the forums but cannot seem to find an answer - can anyone point me in the right direction. Thanks Jamie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] issue on binary merge
There is no meta-info AFAIK in a binary .tar.gz, so portage does NOT know what CFLAGS, or USE flags it is built with. Go ahead, use quickpkg to make a binary tarball of any package on your system, then look tat the tarball. There is nothing to indicate USE or CFLAGS. If you want to install binaries you have to know yourself what options were used in the compile. On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 22:08:13 +0100 Ian Clowes wrote: A further interesting scenario might be to have a binary package available built with different USE flags to those on the target machine, and seeing if it gets installed or not. I guess it shouldn't. But then there's the CFLAGS issue as well, and I'm even more unsure how that's supposed to be handled. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
