Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to update to 2.6.14 but I cant get x11-drm to build against it

2005-11-10 Thread Anthony Roy
I've been having the same problem, but have ignored it for now, since
I am setting up the box primarily as a server. So sorry - no solution!

On 07/11/05, W.Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Trying to update to 2.6.14 but I cant get x11-drm to build against it -
 fails with an error on I2C_ALGO_ATI.  I have copied the working 2.6.13
 config over without luck - this symbol doesnt show in it.


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[gentoo-user] problem compiling glibc

2005-11-10 Thread Vesselin Mladenov
Hello,

I have a problem recompiling glibc on my computer after I have changed
my USE flags.
Here is what emerge is going to do:
root # emerge -p -v --update --deep --newuse world

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] sys-libs/glibc-2.3.5-r2  -build +erandom
-glibc-compat20 +glibc-omitfp* -hardened -linuxthreads-tls (-multilib)
+nls +nptl +nptlonly -pic -profile (-selinux) +userlocales* 0 kB
[ebuild  N] app-i18n/man-pages-fr-1.64.0  864 kB
[ebuild  N] app-i18n/man-pages-de-0.4  475 kB
[ebuild U ] sys-fs/sysfsutils-1.3.0 [1.2.0-r2] 272 kB
[ebuild U ] app-arch/rar-3.5.1 [3.4.0] 661 kB
[ebuild U ] net-ftp/ftpd-0.17-r3 [0.17-r1] +ssl 35 kB



The problem is with glibc. When it starts to compile, gcc quits with
the following error:


cc1: error: unrecognized option `-fno-stack-protector'
make[2]: *** 
[/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r2/work/build-default-i686-pc-linux-gnu-nptl/csu/ssp.o]
Error 1
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r2/work/glibc-2.3.5/csu'
make[1]: *** [csu/subdir_lib] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r2/work/glibc-2.3.5'
make: *** [all] Error 2



Here are the details about my computer and the compilation:
-
Gentoo Base System version 1.6.13

Linux igdrazil 2.6.13-gentoo-r3 #6 Tue Oct 11 23:44:21 EEST 2005 i686
Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

gcc (GCC) 3.3.6 (Gentoo 3.3.6)

Configuring GLIBC for nptl with:
--enable-omitfp
--with-tls
--with-__thread
--enable-add-ons=nptl,c_stubs,libidn
--enable-kernel=2.6.6
--without-selinux
--without-cvs
--enable-bind-now
--build=i686-pc-linux-gnu
--host=i686-pc-linux-gnu
--disable-profile
--without-gd
--with-headers=//usr/include
--prefix=/usr
--mandir=/usr/share/man
--infodir=/usr/share/info
--libexecdir=/usr/lib/misc/glibc




I would appreciate if someone can give mi a hint about what to do.
Thank you for your time in advance.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to update to 2.6.14 but I cant get x11-drm to build against it

2005-11-10 Thread William Kenworthy
I fixed it, had to go ~x86

Seems like gentoo is getting more debianish as time goes on -
package.keywords is getting quite ridiculous in order to have a usable
system.

BillK




On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 09:16 +, Anthony Roy wrote:
 I've been having the same problem, but have ignored it for now, since
 I am setting up the box primarily as a server. So sorry - no solution!
 
 On 07/11/05, W.Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Trying to update to 2.6.14 but I cant get x11-drm to build against it -
  fails with an error on I2C_ALGO_ATI.  I have copied the working 2.6.13
  config over without luck - this symbol doesnt show in it.
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] mainactor - which build is likely to work best?

2005-11-10 Thread Robert Persson
On November 9, 2005 02:17 pm Nick Rout was like:
 what are you looking to do that main actor cannot do?

1.  Import and edit quicktime movies from my camera.

2.  That thing you can do in Media 100 and Avid where you you hae little 
arrows pointing from 1 video clip in the timeline to the other and back again 
so that you can do lots of fast cuts without getting confused by lots of tiny 
clips.

3.  Be able to do  lot more with sound (e.g. mixing).
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[gentoo-user] Re: vlc dies on GL

2005-11-10 Thread James
abhay abhay.ilugd at gmail.com writes:



 When you compiled ati drivers did you enable opengl use flag? you can check 
 by 
 passing this command.
This was a over a year ago, so I do not recall the details of getting xorg
and the ati 7500 video driver to work.

 emerge -pv ati-drivers

On System 1:

emerge -pv ati-drivers

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies -
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy app-admin/eselect-opengl have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- app-admin/eselect-opengl-1.0.2-r1 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
- app-admin/eselect-opengl-1.0.3 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or
section 2.2 Software Availability in the Gentoo Handbook.
!!!(dependency required by media-video/ati-drivers-8.18.8-r1 [ebuild])


 Once you re-compile the drivers with opengl, pass the command
 opengl-update ati

 If you have already compiled the drivers with OpenGL then pass the 
 above-mentioned update command to make sure that your system uses the 
 driver's opengl. If it still doesn't work then you can pass -opengl use 
 flag for vlc and mythtv to disable opengl.

Hmmm. I not sure I did compile the ati-drivers:

media-video/ati-drivers
 Available versions:  8.14.13-r2 [M]8.14.13-r3 8.14.13-r4 8.14.13-r5
*8.16.20 *8.16.20-r1 8.18.6 8.18.6-r1 8.18.8 8.18.8-r1
 Installed:   none

If I recall correctly, at one time  I was confused and trying
to use the ati supplied binaries and the ati-drivers package.
I think I got things working with the binaries and remove
the ati-driversIt was over a year ago, so I'm not too
certain.


James

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[gentoo-user] Re: vlc dies on GL

2005-11-10 Thread James
abhay abhay.ilugd at gmail.com writes:


  I'm not so sure. I have a second system with the same (USE) flags
   set, and mythtv installs  but vlc fails without the GL error:
 
  make[2]: Entering
  directory`/var/tmp/portage/vlc-0.8.1-r1/work/vlc-0.8.1/mozilla'
  usr/bin/xpidl  -I/usr/share/idl/mozilla \
-I/usr/lib/mozilla/include/idl \
-m header -o vlcintf ./vlcintf.idl
  make[2]: /usr/bin/xpidl: Command not found
  make[2]: *** [vlcintf.h] Error 127
  make[2]: Leaving directory 
  var/tmp/portage/vlc-0.8.1-r1/work/vlc-0.8.1/mozilla' make[1]: ***
  [all-recursive] Error 1
  make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/vlc-0.8.1-r1/work/vlc-0.8.1'
  make: *** [all] Error 2

 Do you use vlc in mozilla to play videos? If you don't, then pass -mozilla 
 use flag for vlc on this system.

No.
OK, googling I read about some vague relation ship between 'xpidl' and mozilla,
but it was not very clear.

OK so I tried:

USE=-mozilla emerge vlc

On system 2, (the one where mythtv works and vlc fails as shown
above, it fails in the same place?

Perhaps my command line attempt is less than sufficiently robust?

Ideas?

James


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: vlc dies on GL

2005-11-10 Thread ellotheth rimmwen
On 11/10/05, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 abhay abhay.ilugd at gmail.com writes:
  Do you use vlc in mozilla to play videos? If you don't, then pass -mozilla
  use flag for vlc on this system.

FWIW, emerge -pv vlc on my machine shows an nsplugin, but not a
mozilla use flag. Try it with -nsplugin, p'raps?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Abysmally slow 2D performance using proprietary Nvidia driver on dual Xeon system (EMT64)

2005-11-10 Thread Greg Bur
On 11/8/05, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Greg Bur wrote: Dual 3.0Ghz Xeon 2GB RAM 128MB GeForce 6600GT Audigy 2 soundcard free -t -o -m output: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ free -t -o -m
 total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 2009 1505 503 0 440 584 Swap: 1953 2 1950 Total: 3962 1508 2454According to the output of free it looks like despite having 2Gb of RAM,
your machine is swapping to disk. That will slow down your machine too.
It definitely is not an issue with swapping to disk. For some
reason X is causing a high CPU load and it acts like its only using one
processor. If I switch back to the open source driver the load
seems to be balanced across all 4 processors. To make things
even more interesting if I open glxgears while using the Nvidia driver
the problem can be temporarily alleviated. The CPU load drops
back to normal and the system is much more responsive. The open
source driver is working fine for now but I sure would like to know
what it is that I'm doing to cause the Nvidia driver to perform so
poorly.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: vlc dies on GL

2005-11-10 Thread Holly Bostick
James schreef:

 Hmmm. I not sure I did compile the ati-drivers:
 
 media-video/ati-drivers Available versions:  8.14.13-r2 [M]8.14.13-r3
 8.14.13-r4 8.14.13-r5 *8.16.20 *8.16.20-r1 8.18.6 8.18.6-r1 8.18.8
 8.18.8-r1 Installed:   none
 

Well, depending on which ATI video card you have, the ati-driver package
may be the only one which supplies OpenGL for your video card's chipset
(above the 9250 must use the drivers, 9250 and below can use the kernel
'radeon' driver and X.org MESA to get OpenGL support). So if you're
getting an error in OpenGL, that may be because you have no video
drivers with OpenGL support installed.

HTH,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] problem compiling glibc

2005-11-10 Thread Rumen Yotov
On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 13:57 +0200, Vesselin Mladenov wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have a problem recompiling glibc on my computer after I have changed
 my USE flags.
 Here is what emerge is going to do:
 root # emerge -p -v --update --deep --newuse world
 
 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
 Calculating world dependencies ...done!
 [ebuild   R   ] sys-libs/glibc-2.3.5-r2  -build +erandom
 -glibc-compat20 +glibc-omitfp* -hardened -linuxthreads-tls (-multilib)
 +nls +nptl +nptlonly -pic -profile (-selinux) +userlocales* 0 kB
 [ebuild  N] app-i18n/man-pages-fr-1.64.0  864 kB
 [ebuild  N] app-i18n/man-pages-de-0.4  475 kB
 [ebuild U ] sys-fs/sysfsutils-1.3.0 [1.2.0-r2] 272 kB
 [ebuild U ] app-arch/rar-3.5.1 [3.4.0] 661 kB
 [ebuild U ] net-ftp/ftpd-0.17-r3 [0.17-r1] +ssl 35 kB
 
 
 
 The problem is with glibc. When it starts to compile, gcc quits with
 the following error:
 
 
 cc1: error: unrecognized option `-fno-stack-protector'
 make[2]: *** 
 [/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r2/work/build-default-i686-pc-linux-gnu-nptl/csu/ssp.o]
 Error 1
 make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
 make[2]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r2/work/glibc-2.3.5/csu'
 make[1]: *** [csu/subdir_lib] Error 2
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5-r2/work/glibc-2.3.5'
 make: *** [all] Error 2
 
 
 
 Here are the details about my computer and the compilation:
 -
 Gentoo Base System version 1.6.13
 
 Linux igdrazil 2.6.13-gentoo-r3 #6 Tue Oct 11 23:44:21 EEST 2005 i686
 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
 
 gcc (GCC) 3.3.6 (Gentoo 3.3.6)
 
 Configuring GLIBC for nptl with:
 --enable-omitfp
 --with-tls
 --with-__thread
 --enable-add-ons=nptl,c_stubs,libidn
 --enable-kernel=2.6.6
 --without-selinux
 --without-cvs
 --enable-bind-now
 --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu
 --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu
 --disable-profile
 --without-gd
 --with-headers=//usr/include
 --prefix=/usr
 --mandir=/usr/share/man
 --infodir=/usr/share/info
 --libexecdir=/usr/lib/misc/glibc
 
 
 
 
 I would appreciate if someone can give mi a hint about what to do.
 Thank you for your time in advance.
 
Hi,
You don't need -fno-stack-protector as a flag, it's only used in all
hardened sources (grsec2,RSBAC,SELinux).
Take it out of your /etc/make.conf (must be there as i don't see a
hardened profile being used).
HTH.Rumen


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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to update to 2.6.14 but I cant get x11-drm to build against it

2005-11-10 Thread A. Khattri
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, William Kenworthy wrote:

 I fixed it, had to go ~x86

 Seems like gentoo is getting more debianish as time goes on -
 package.keywords is getting quite ridiculous in order to have a usable
 system.

I have useable machines without having and package.keywords file...



 BillK




 On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 09:16 +, Anthony Roy wrote:
  I've been having the same problem, but have ignored it for now, since
  I am setting up the box primarily as a server. So sorry - no solution!
 
  On 07/11/05, W.Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Trying to update to 2.6.14 but I cant get x11-drm to build against it -
   fails with an error on I2C_ALGO_ATI.  I have copied the working 2.6.13
   config over without luck - this symbol doesnt show in it.
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL

2005-11-10 Thread A. Khattri
On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, Renat Golubchyk wrote:

 syntax on within vim or in your .vimrc

That would be :syntax on (note leading colon) from inside vim.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Abysmally slow 2D performance using proprietary Nvidia driver on dual Xeon system (EMT64)

2005-11-10 Thread A. Khattri
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Greg Bur wrote:

 It definitely is not an issue with swapping to disk. For some reason X is
 causing a high CPU load and it acts like its only using one processor. If I
 switch back to the open source driver the load seems to be balanced across
 all 4 processors. To make things even more interesting if I open glxgears
 while using the Nvidia driver the problem can be temporarily alleviated. The
 CPU load drops back to normal and the system is much more responsive. The
 open source driver is working fine for now but I sure would like to know
 what it is that I'm doing to cause the Nvidia driver to perform so poorly.

Maybe the Nvidia drivers dont play well with threading and/or SMP?


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[gentoo-user] gpg-agent not setting environment correctly.

2005-11-10 Thread abhay
Hello,

I am trying to setup KMail to use GnuPG. I have emerged unstable gnupg 
(1.9.19), gpg-agent (1.9.19) and pinentry (0.7.2-r1). I am now trying to 
setup gpg-agent and have followed documentation on gentoo site but the 
problem is that even after setting the agent-startup.sh the way it explains, 
the environment is not getting updated. I get the following results when 
trying to know about gpg agent's env

$ $GPG_AGENT_INFO
bash: /tmp/gpg-roleYu/S.gpg-agent:8297:1: No such file or directory

Now, even though gpg-agent is working as daemon, KMail asks for password 
everytime I try to send a signed mail and complains that gpg-agent is not 
running. I have googled but can not find a solution so if someone who is 
running KMail and gpg-agent could give some insights then I will be highly 
thankful.

Abhay
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[gentoo-user] how to upload files...?any tool?

2005-11-10 Thread El Nino
Dear friends,

i develop my own webpages  now want to upload them to a remote
server. so im new to do this... so can any body to point me a tool to
do this?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Pin an ebuild (mysql)

2005-11-10 Thread David Corbin
On Saturday 05 November 2005 06:31 pm, David Corbin wrote:
 I recently did an emerge -uavD world like I ususally do, and it failed
 trying to upgrade mysql from 4.0 to 4.1.  Well, I'd really like to need to
 keep 4.0 around.  Is there some way to say, don't upgrade mysql when I
 emerge -uavD world?

 Even better, is there a way to have both versions of mysql installed?

 Naturally, I want to do this with portage (I know I could figure out how to
 do all this without portage.)

Is there anyway to install a 4.0.x version of mysql (using portage), if I 
don't have it installed now?




 Thanks
 David
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to upload files...?any tool?

2005-11-10 Thread Alexander Skwar
El Nino schrieb:

 i develop my own webpages  now want to upload them to a remote server.

I'd use scp or sftp.

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[gentoo-user] Re: vlc dies on GL

2005-11-10 Thread James
ellotheth rimmwen ellotheth at gmail.com writes:


   Do you use vlc in mozilla to play videos? If you don't, then
   pass -mozilla use flag for vlc on this system.

 FWIW, emerge -pv vlc on my machine shows an nsplugin, but not a
 mozilla use flag. Try it with -nsplugin, p'raps?


Yes you are correct. I'm not sure how I missed that flag but

USE=-nsplugin emerge vlc 

Did the trick,

Thanks to all!


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[gentoo-user] Re: vlc dies on GL

2005-11-10 Thread James
Holly Bostick motub at planet.nl writes:


 Well, depending on which ATI video card you have, the ati-driver package
 may be the only one which supplies OpenGL for your video card's chipset
 (above the 9250 must use the drivers, 9250 and below can use the kernel
 'radeon' driver and X.org MESA to get OpenGL support). So if you're
 getting an error in OpenGL, that may be because you have no video
 drivers with OpenGL support installed.

lscpi reveals:

:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf
[Radeon Mobility 9000 M9] (rev 01)


So I need to add MESA to get OpenGL fixed?
media-libs/mesa [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 6.4
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]

Any other way to get opengl working with the radeon kernel driver?

Should/can I use ati-drivers? or should I stick with the radeon
supplied binary driver?


James



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Re: [gentoo-user] Pin an ebuild (mysql)

2005-11-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 13:29:12 -0500, David Corbin wrote:

 Is there anyway to install a 4.0.x version of mysql (using portage), if
 I don't have it installed now?

emerge -av =dev-db/mysql-4.0.26

eix (or emerge -s) will tell you which versions are available.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: vlc dies on GL

2005-11-10 Thread abhay
On Friday 11 Nov 2005 12:22 am, James wrote:
 lscpi reveals:

 :01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf
 [Radeon Mobility 9000 M9] (rev 01)


 So I need to add MESA to get OpenGL fixed?
 media-libs/mesa [ Masked ]
   Latest version available: 6.4
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]

 Any other way to get opengl working with the radeon kernel driver?

 Should/can I use ati-drivers? or should I stick with the radeon
 supplied binary driver?


 James
You can always compile without opengl support by using -opengl flag or you can 
try to use opengl from xorg-x11 driver by issuing command
opengl-update xorg-x11
I am not sure whether this will work but you can try nonetheless.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: vlc dies on GL

2005-11-10 Thread Richard Fish
On 11/10/05, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 :01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf
 [Radeon Mobility 9000 M9] (rev 01)


 So I need to add MESA to get OpenGL fixed?

No.  Why do you think this?  You only need xorg (merged with +opengl),
the radeon driver plus the appropriate DRI section in your xorg.conf
file, and the radeon DRM/DRI kernel module configured and loaded.

 Any other way to get opengl working with the radeon kernel driver?
 Should/can I use ati-drivers? or should I stick with the radeon
 supplied binary driver?

What radeon supplied binary driver?  The only binary driver
available for ATI cards is the ati-drivers, provided by ATI.  The
radeon driver that comes with x.org is open source.

As for which to use, well, use whatever works best for you.  If you
want to try the ati-drivers, generally you just need to merge the
package and change the Driver setting in xorg.conf from radeon to
fglrx.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to upload files...?any tool?

2005-11-10 Thread Stoian Ivanov
On Thursday 10 November 2005 20:34, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 El Nino schrieb:
  i develop my own webpages  now want to upload them to a remote server.

 I'd use scp or sftp.

 Alexander Skwar

I would reccomend  Krusader and ftp:// or fish://  urls, which are part of 
KDE's kioslaves but are best handled by Krusader (long live krusader's dev 
team)
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to upload files...?any tool?

2005-11-10 Thread Christine


--- El Nino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear friends,
 
 i develop my own webpages  now want to upload them
 to a remote server. so
 im new to do this... so can any body to point me a
 tool to do this?
 
 
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Some servers offer FTP accounts, so you could just use
ftp. If the remote server is running an sshd, you
could use scp to upload the files.

It would help to be more specific about this remote server.




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[gentoo-user] Xorg.. twm not starting and terrible performance with fluxbox

2005-11-10 Thread Mrugesh Karnik

Hi,

I just installed Gentoo on an AMD64 Sempron machine. RAM is not a 
problem.. 1GB of it.


I just emerged xorg-x11. The graphics card is VIA Unichrome onboard. I 
have a perfectly fine working FC4 system. I used the FC4 xorg.conf file. 
First ran Xorg -configure. Kept all the paths from Gentoo and filled in 
stuff like mouse, keyboard, monitor and graphics card configuration from 
the FC4 file. I tested the file with X -config /root/xorg.config.fc4 and 
it worked fine. I then copied it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and gave startx. 
But twm refused to start. I could just a see a black screen with a black 
X mouse pointer in the middle. I moved it and it was lagging very badly. 
So I killed the X server and emerged fluxbox.


Fluxbox started fine. But when I tried to open xedit.. it went terribly 
slow.. Same thing with xcalc. People in #xorg on Freenode told me that I 
needed to look for via_drv.o module. I didn't find it. Xorg doesn't 
install it. vesa gives very bad performance as stated above. 
Interestingly, vesa is what FC4 uses and it runs absolutely fine!


What am I to do? I would appreciate any help anyone can offer!

Thank you,
Mrugesh
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Re: [gentoo-user] Abysmally slow 2D performance using proprietary Nvidia driver on dual Xeon system (EMT64)

2005-11-10 Thread Greg Bur
On 11/10/05, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Greg Bur wrote: It definitely is not an issue with swapping to disk. For some reason X is causing a high CPU load and it acts like its only using one processor. If I switch back to the open source driver the load seems to be balanced across
 all 4 processors. To make things even more interesting if I open glxgears while using the Nvidia driver the problem can be temporarily alleviated. The CPU load drops back to normal and the system is much more responsive. The
 open source driver is working fine for now but I sure would like to know what it is that I'm doing to cause the Nvidia driver to perform so poorly.Maybe the Nvidia drivers dont play well with threading and/or SMP?

That's my guess that this point. If I get the inspiration tonight
I'll try disabling hyperthreading in the BIOS and also recompiling the
kernel without SMP support. What has me beating my head against
the wall so much is not the poor performance but the fact that one out
of every 10 or 15 attempts the driver works as expected. I
suppose if something positive is to be made of this it is that I will
be more reluctant to play any games because I will have to reboot into
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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg.. twm not starting and terrible performance with fluxbox

2005-11-10 Thread Richard Fish
On 11/10/05, Mrugesh Karnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I just installed Gentoo on an AMD64 Sempron machine. RAM is not a
 problem.. 1GB of it.

 I just emerged xorg-x11. The graphics card is VIA Unichrome onboard. I
 have a perfectly fine working FC4 system. I used the FC4 xorg.conf file.
 First ran Xorg -configure. Kept all the paths from Gentoo and filled in
 stuff like mouse, keyboard, monitor and graphics card configuration from
 the FC4 file. I tested the file with X -config /root/xorg.config.fc4 and
 it worked fine. I then copied it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and gave startx.
 But twm refused to start. I could just a see a black screen with a black
 X mouse pointer in the middle. I moved it and it was lagging very badly.
 So I killed the X server and emerged fluxbox.

 Fluxbox started fine. But when I tried to open xedit.. it went terribly
 slow.. Same thing with xcalc. People in #xorg on Freenode told me that I
 needed to look for via_drv.o module. I didn't find it. Xorg doesn't
 install it.

I don't use it, but it looks like I got a via_drv on my install of
xorg-x11.  Which version of xorg-x11, and what USE flags?

carcharias rjf # locate via_drv
/usr/lib/modules/drivers/via_drv.o
/usr/src/linux-2.6.14/drivers/char/drm/via_drv.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.14/drivers/char/drm/via_drv.h
/usr/src/linux-2.6.13-suspend2-r5/drivers/char/drm/via_drv.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.13-suspend2-r5/drivers/char/drm/via_drv.h

carcharias rjf # equery belongs /usr/lib/modules/drivers/via_drv.o
[ Searching for file(s) /usr/lib/modules/drivers/via_drv.o in *... ]
x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6 (/usr/lib/modules/drivers/via_drv.o)
carcharias rjf # emerge -vp x11-base/xorg-x11

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6  -3dfx -3dnow +bitmap-fonts
-cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx +doc +font-server -insecure-drivers +ipv6
-minimal +mmx +nls -nocxx +opengl +pam -sdk +sse -static
+truetype-fonts +type1-fonts (-uclibc) -xprint +xv 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB

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Re: [gentoo-user] System Locking Up

2005-11-10 Thread Joseph
On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 20:51 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:
 On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:52:56 -0700
 Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  try to run gkrellm2 it might give you some hints if it is a hardware
  related problem on process related.
  
  -- 
  #Joseph
 
 or memtest - at least overnight

Don't rely on memtest86 (not reliable); it passed my system twice but I
still had lockup.  
Look for RedHat memtest.sh, it is more reliable. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to upload files...?any tool?

2005-11-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:32:00 +0200, Stoian Ivanov wrote:

 I would reccomend  Krusader and ftp:// or fish://  urls, which are part
 of KDE's kioslaves but are best handled by Krusader (long live
 krusader's dev team)

How can you force KDE to not use passive FTP?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: vlc dies on GL

2005-11-10 Thread Holly Bostick
Richard Fish schreef:

 If you want to try the ati-drivers, generally you just need to merge 
 the package and change the Driver setting in xorg.conf from radeon 
 to fglrx.
 

Not completely true; the ati-driver module (fglrx) will not work if the
kernel DRM is compiled (either as a module or statically). Further, the
driver has an included agpgart, but this does not cover all mobo agp
chipsets (no idea which ones it does cover, but not mine apparently)--
so while the kernel agpgart must be available (preferably as a module,
since the fglrx install script checks this before it will compile),
depending on whether you need to use the internal (fglrx) agpgart, or an
external one (from the kernel; I use via-agp), one may need to do some
kernel voodoo (compiling the correct agpgart for your mobo) or some
xorg.conf voodoo (turning on UseInternalAGPGART yes or no), some
/etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 voodoo (to load your agpgart before
the driver agpgart), or possibly even some /etc/hotplug/blacklist voodoo
(to prevent the kernel DRM from loading, because if the kernel loads its
own DRM, the ATI DRM won't load, and the driver does not work with the
kernel DRM). It's quite likely that several forms of voodoo will be
necessary.

Apparently the fglrx module does not work in combination with the
radeonfb driver, either, so if one used that, and the driver did not
work, one might not know why.

In any case, the fglrx requires a specific kernel configuration in order
to work even as well as it does (which may, or may not, be that well,
depending on what you want to do with it), and switching to it is not
necessarily a matter of simply changing the setting in xorg.conf.

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to upload files...?any tool?

2005-11-10 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 00:22 +0600, El Nino wrote:

 i develop my own webpages  now want to upload them to a remote
 server. so im new to do this... so can any body to point me a tool to
 do this?

There are plenty of tools, it depends what you want.  For example, do
you want a graphical environment where you can create web pages and
upload them in the same tool (mozilla)?  Or do you edit by hand in your
favourite text editor and you just want a graphical tool to upload them
(d4x - not sure if it can upload, nautilus)?  Or do you want a command
line tool to upload(ftp, wput)?  What sort of access do you have? ftp,
sftp, ssh?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: vlc dies on GL

2005-11-10 Thread Richard Fish
On 11/10/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Richard Fish schreef:
  If you want to try the ati-drivers, generally you just need to merge
  the package and change the Driver setting in xorg.conf from radeon
  to fglrx.

 Not completely true; the ati-driver module (fglrx) will not work if the

All true.  Sorry for the oversimplification.

 Apparently the fglrx module does not work in combination with the
 radeonfb driver,

My experience is that it works partially.  When I have used radeonfb
with fglrx, everything starts normally, including X and KDE.  But if I
try to switch to a console (or shutdown the system!), the system hangs
with a corrupted display.  So yes, radeonfb and fglrx should not be
used together.  Vesafb-tng behaves much better, although that is a
different thread altogether.

-Richard.

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Re: [gentoo-user] mainactor - which build is likely to work best?

2005-11-10 Thread Nick Rout
OK well mu comments below:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 06:20:34 -0800
Robert Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On November 9, 2005 02:17 pm Nick Rout was like:
  what are you looking to do that main actor cannot do?
 
 1.  Import and edit quicktime movies from my camera.

I would be reluctant to buy a camera that wasn't DV. However as you
have one, it should be possible to transcode to something mainactor can
deal with.

Just to confirm I have a quicktime movie which tcprobe tells me is:

audio codec=QDM2
video codec=SVQ3

and mainactor deosn't want to know it. However it was easily transcoded
to mpeg2 which mainactor is fine with.

 
 2.  That thing you can do in Media 100 and Avid where you you hae little 
 arrows pointing from 1 video clip in the timeline to the other and back again 
 so that you can do lots of fast cuts without getting confused by lots of tiny 
 clips.

I am not familiar with avid or media 100, but I am always interested in
new interfaces to movie editing. I might even install windows to take a
look :)

 
 3.  Be able to do  lot more with sound (e.g. mixing).

Ahhh but there are plenty of sound mixing programs for linux. And if I
understand correctly you can do a certain amount of sound mixing with
main actor by using multiple audio tracks and mixing them. Perhaps this
is not what you mean?


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Re: [gentoo-user] how to upload files...?any tool?

2005-11-10 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Thursday 10 November 2005 23:50, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:32:00 +0200, Stoian Ivanov wrote:
  I would reccomend  Krusader and ftp:// or fish://  urls, which are part
  of KDE's kioslaves but are best handled by Krusader (long live
  krusader's dev team)

 How can you force KDE to not use passive FTP?

controll centre--

internetnetwork--

connection preferences --

uncheck 'enable passive mode'

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to make a portage mirror

2005-11-10 Thread Mark Shields
While you're link is useful, Khan, it won't give Karol what he (she?)
needs. See: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/rsync.xml#doc_chap4 ,
which tells you how to setup your own local rsync mirror.On 11/9/05, Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Karol Lipnicki wrote: Hello I working In idg.pl and i want to make a portage mirror, but i don't
 know how to do it ? Can you tell me, how can I do it on gentoo linux ?http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Download_Cache_for_LAN-Http-Replicator
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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg.. twm not starting and terrible performance with fluxbox

2005-11-10 Thread Mrugesh Karnik

Richard Fish wrote:

On 11/10/05, Mrugesh Karnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

I just installed Gentoo on an AMD64 Sempron machine. RAM is not a
problem.. 1GB of it.

I just emerged xorg-x11. The graphics card is VIA Unichrome onboard. I
have a perfectly fine working FC4 system. I used the FC4 xorg.conf file.
First ran Xorg -configure. Kept all the paths from Gentoo and filled in
stuff like mouse, keyboard, monitor and graphics card configuration from
the FC4 file. I tested the file with X -config /root/xorg.config.fc4 and
it worked fine. I then copied it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and gave startx.
But twm refused to start. I could just a see a black screen with a black
X mouse pointer in the middle. I moved it and it was lagging very badly.
So I killed the X server and emerged fluxbox.

Fluxbox started fine. But when I tried to open xedit.. it went terribly
slow.. Same thing with xcalc. People in #xorg on Freenode told me that I
needed to look for via_drv.o module. I didn't find it. Xorg doesn't
install it.



I don't use it, but it looks like I got a via_drv on my install of
xorg-x11.  Which version of xorg-x11, and what USE flags?

carcharias rjf # locate via_drv
/usr/lib/modules/drivers/via_drv.o
/usr/src/linux-2.6.14/drivers/char/drm/via_drv.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.14/drivers/char/drm/via_drv.h
/usr/src/linux-2.6.13-suspend2-r5/drivers/char/drm/via_drv.c
/usr/src/linux-2.6.13-suspend2-r5/drivers/char/drm/via_drv.h

carcharias rjf # equery belongs /usr/lib/modules/drivers/via_drv.o
[ Searching for file(s) /usr/lib/modules/drivers/via_drv.o in *... ]
x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6 (/usr/lib/modules/drivers/via_drv.o)
carcharias rjf # emerge -vp x11-base/xorg-x11

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6  -3dfx -3dnow +bitmap-fonts
-cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx +doc +font-server -insecure-drivers +ipv6
-minimal +mmx +nls -nocxx +opengl +pam -sdk +sse -static
+truetype-fonts +type1-fonts (-uclibc) -xprint +xv 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB




Hmmm. I am using the stable version. That's 6.8.2-r4. I'll try emerging 
r6. One thing.. my Sempron surely supports mmx and sse. I have both of 
those USE flags in my make.conf, but when emerging something, both those 
flags are in the () and are not used... why is that?


Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Abysmally slow 2D performance using proprietary Nvidia driver on dual Xeon system (EMT64)

2005-11-10 Thread Greg Bur
On 11/10/05, Greg Bur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe the Nvidia drivers dont play well with threading and/or SMP?

That's my guess that this point. If I get the inspiration tonight
I'll try disabling hyperthreading in the BIOS and also recompiling the
kernel without SMP support. What has me beating my head against
the wall so much is not the poor performance but the fact that one out
of every 10 or 15 attempts the driver works as expected. I
suppose if something positive is to be made of this it is that I will
be more reluctant to play any games because I will have to reboot into
Windows. 

Well I tried without hyperthreading and without SMP and the results
only got worse. Now I am beginning to look at how I compiled
things such as glibc and xorg-x11. I already ran the undo process
for prelink and now I think I shall recompile glibc without nptl
support to see if that makes any difference. I am really treading
water here but I have been forced to read up on my hardware a lot
more. I really wish I had taken better notes.


Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg.. twm not starting and terrible performance with fluxbox

2005-11-10 Thread Richard Fish
On 11/10/05, Mrugesh Karnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hmmm. I am using the stable version. That's 6.8.2-r4. I'll try emerging
 r6.

Well, give it shot.  But looking at the ChangeLog, I don't see any
references to via driver changes in -r5 or -r6, so I wouldn't hold my
breath that you will see a difference just from the minor bump in the
ebuild version.

However, looking through the ebuild, it looks like the 'via' driver
will be disabled if you use the 'minimal' flag.  So make sure you
don't merge with that in any case!

 One thing.. my Sempron surely supports mmx and sse. I have both of
 those USE flags in my make.conf, but when emerging something, both those
 flags are in the () and are not used... why is that?

Flags in () are hard-masked by the profile.  In this case,
/usr/portage/profiles/linux-default/use.mask masks out mmx, mmx2, sse,
and others.  It is then up to the profile-specific mask to unmask them
if they will work there...and at present only the x86 profile does
this, so if you are using the amd64 profile, these flags are simply
disabled.

Ebuilds can still add the appropriate CFLAGS or configure options to
enable mmx/sse however.  The xorg-x11 ebuild does this for the amd64
profile.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg.. twm not starting and terrible performance with fluxbox

2005-11-10 Thread Mrugesh Karnik

Richard Fish wrote:

On 11/10/05, Mrugesh Karnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hmmm. I am using the stable version. That's 6.8.2-r4. I'll try emerging
r6.



Well, give it shot.  But looking at the ChangeLog, I don't see any
references to via driver changes in -r5 or -r6, so I wouldn't hold my
breath that you will see a difference just from the minor bump in the
ebuild version.

However, looking through the ebuild, it looks like the 'via' driver
will be disabled if you use the 'minimal' flag.  So make sure you
don't merge with that in any case!



One thing.. my Sempron surely supports mmx and sse. I have both of
those USE flags in my make.conf, but when emerging something, both those
flags are in the () and are not used... why is that?



Flags in () are hard-masked by the profile.  In this case,
/usr/portage/profiles/linux-default/use.mask masks out mmx, mmx2, sse,
and others.  It is then up to the profile-specific mask to unmask them
if they will work there...and at present only the x86 profile does
this, so if you are using the amd64 profile, these flags are simply
disabled.

Ebuilds can still add the appropriate CFLAGS or configure options to
enable mmx/sse however.  The xorg-x11 ebuild does this for the amd64
profile.

-Richard



Still no luck. I tried compiling VIA Unichrome suppport in the kernel, 
but the kernel version of via_drv.o doesn't move out of /usr/src. 
xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6 doesn't compile via_drv.o and my X is performing very 
badly!


What I don't understand, is why it would work perfectly fine on FC4 and 
not on Gentoo with vesa driver!


Thanks,
Mrugesh
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