Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get spellchecking to work on evolution

2005-11-22 Thread Alex Bennee
On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 19:56 +, C. Beamer wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Alex Bennee wrote:
 
 Although its enabled evolution never picks up any mis-spelled words. I
 suspect its something to do with the fact no dictionaries are selectable
 in the preferences dialog.
 
 I have aspell-en installed but that doesn't seem to be enough.
 
 Any ideas?
   
 
 I don't know if this will help, but make sure that you've emerged ispell
 and/or aspell.  I had aspell installed, but couldn't spell check in
 another application because I needed ispell installed.

I had both emerged. However it looks like gnome-spell only needs aspell
to work:

[ebuild  N] app-text/gnome-spell-1.0.5-r2  -debug 211 kB
[ebuild  N]  app-text/enchant-1.1.6  -debug 431 kB
[ebuild  N]   app-dicts/aspell-en-0.51.1  168 kB
[ebuild  N]app-text/aspell-0.50.5-r4  +gpm 992 kB

Still no dice though :-(


 HTH.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: default stage3

2005-11-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 00:28:26 +0100, Matthias Langer wrote:

  As I understand it, the first time you recompile new toolchain with
  your old toolchain, and then the 2nd time you're recompiling the
  toolchain with the new toolchain, with the idea that the new toolchain
  will compile/assemble/link/etc everything in a different way than the
  old toolchain.
  
  Please correct if I'm wrong.
 
 I would suggest 'emerge -uD gcc  emerge -e world'; This should
 recompile the new toolchain with the new toolchain and be considerably
 faster.

The first command won't do anything, -D doesn't take account of of USE or
CFLAG changes.

emerge -e system  emerge -e world might be better, but there are scripts
on the forums that recompile just what you need, in the best order, such
as; http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-282474.html



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Re: default stage3 (was : [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?)

2005-11-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 23:33:25 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:

 Hogwash. What's so hard about it, as opposed to any other Linux distro,
 once you get past the install issue?

Try plugging in a wireless NIC. It's not hard to set on up manually when
you know what you are doing, but other distros will take care of this
automatically.

Gentoo has to be harder to use than other distros, you can't have full
control over the system and still have it do things automatically for
you.


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Re: [gentoo-user] how to create a pgp signature

2005-11-22 Thread Holly Bostick
Alexander Skwar schreef:
 Holly Bostick schrieb:
 
 However, other than pointing this out by the simple expedient of 
 confusing everyone further, Alexander's reply was less than
 helpful, since it neither pointed out why the answer given was
 presumably not correct,
 
 
 Uhm. Yes, I did not point that out. Why and how should I? OP asked,
 how a signature can be created. That's a clear question. I don't know
 how to explain, why --gen-key is the wrong answer. It's just so plain
 totally wrong, that I just don't know how to explain it.

Well, if someone asks how to create a signature, and someone else
answers how to provide a key pair, clearly someone is confused as to the
fact that a signature is not a key pair. Saying so explicitly (i.e.,
this will generate a key pair, not a signature, and they are not the
same thing), seems to be to be a simple way of saying why the answer is
wrong.

But that's just me and my conviction that people can't learn what you
don't tell 'em (with the corollary assumption that people ask questions
because they want to learn/know/understand something).
 
 
 or provided a correct answer if the answer given was in fact not
 correct.
 
 Oh, I did not? What about the -s? How's that not the sign
 command?
 

Sorry, Alexander-- I missed the *second* mail in which you did this.

In the mail quoted by Jason (the first mail), you were distinctly
obscure :-) , and that's the one I was referring to.

My mistake.

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Re: default stage3 (was : [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?)

2005-11-22 Thread Robin

 Gentoo has to be harder to use than other distros, you can't have full
 control over the system and still have it do things automatically for
 you.


I could not of said it any better.
And of the distros I have used Gentoo is the best, although not my
first.  And I would not recommend it to novice unless they had/want a
lot of time learning

My 2 cents ;)

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[gentoo-user] OT: bash decimal/exponential numbers math...

2005-11-22 Thread jarry
Hi,

I wrote a short script for simple text file processing in bash
(using  for input redirection and read). I know, there are
probably better tools to do it, but the only thing I can rely on
being installed on target comp is really bash and nothing more
(no bc, sed, awk, etc.) so I must use only its built-in functions. 

Everything would be OK, if there were only positive integer numbers
in that input file. Unfortunatelly, there are also decimal and
exponential numbers (like 123.456 or 1.23456e+02) which my script
must process. Now I'm pretty deadlocked because too late I realised
that very basic math functions of bash can not handle such numbers.

Now what to do? Are there some functions, which would implement basic
math with real numbers in bash (add, substract, multiply, divide
and round would be enough)?
The idea of writing them myself really scares me...

Jarry

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Re: default stage3 (was : [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?)

2005-11-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 01:40:02 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:

 Myself, I don't consider that either a stage 1 or stage 3 leaves me with
 more than a minimally functional system after the initial install, but a
 stage 3 leaves me with a *higher functioning* minimal install than a
 stage 1 does.

A stage 3 install doesn't give you any more than a stage 1. all it means
is you skip some laborious and time-consuming steps in the handbook, you
end up in the same place.

 But at least after a stage 3, I don't have to be *uncomfortable* while
 I'm waiting to get my system up to my personal spec-- I can still *use*
 Mozilla, even if it's compiled with Mail, and Composer, and IRC, while I
 wait for it to recompile with the -moz*** USE flags.

You can't, stage 3 doesn't even include X. However, you can use the GRP
packages with a stage 3 installation, because the flags are all at
default, so you can merge your preferred DE, mail and browser as binary
packages in a few minutes.

If you like ~arch, you don't even need an emerge --emptytree after the
system is running, as emerge -uDN world after changing KEYWORDS and
USE will update just about everything anyway.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Kde version

2005-11-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 14:35:54 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:

 In other words after kde.org (or any other software writer) releases a
 new version, it takes some time for the gentoo devs to make sure it is
 working ok before they release it on the masses of gentoo users who rely
 on the devs to keep their systems stable.
 
 And a bloody good thing too!

Especially with something like KDE where there are hundreds of
inter-related ebuilds.

If you don't want to wait for ebuilds to be tested fully, run ~arch and
help with the testing yourself.


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[gentoo-user] Problem merging kde

2005-11-22 Thread Thiago Lüttig
Hi, i have some computers when I try to emerge the kde, or any package of it, i receice this message:

Calculating dependencies \emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r3.

I just can´t find thi damn lib. how to fix this ??-- __Atenciosamente,Thiago Lüttig__ 


Re: [gentoo-user] root password gremlin

2005-11-22 Thread Abhay Kedia
On Tuesday 22 Nov 2005 4:23 am, Holly Bostick wrote:
 Just because you have a lot of packages installed that have the pam USE
 flag doesn't mean that much-- is the flag actually enabled for those
 packages?

 If so, and your system is not having any issues, I wouldn't necessarily
 become hysterical just yet.

I did a emerge -pv for all those packages and looks like all of them are 
actually using PAM. What I am thinking now is to mask any accidental update 
of PAM in package.mask and hope that it doesn't get messed up 
just_like_that.

Thanks for the help.
Abhay


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Re: [gentoo-user] how to create a pgp signature

2005-11-22 Thread Ralph Slooten
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Holly Bostick wrote:
 Well, if someone asks how to create a signature, and someone else
 answers how to provide a key pair, clearly someone is confused as to the
 fact that a signature is not a key pair.

No, actually I'm not confused as to the difference between a key pair
and a signature (been using pgp/gnupg for years), but to get one you
need the other, and users who have no idea where to begin with signing
most likely don't have a key pair to start with. It all depends on how
you interpret the question.

@ Alexander
As for out-of-order posting: when there is a short answer to a short
question, I *really* don't see the point, or the point of making it a
point considering it's a 4-line answer of a 3-line question.

For long detailed answers to a long question, yes, I agree 100%
(top-posting), but in this situation it was not the case.

Greetings
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Re: changing CHOST in stage3 (was : [gentoo-user] default stage3)

2005-11-22 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:08:40 -0500 Matthew Cline
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| On 11/21/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  You can change
|  everything after a stage 3 install, although you have to be careful
|  when changing CHOST.
| 
| I've just completed a stage3 install, and I'd like to change the CHOST
| from i386-pc-linux-gnu to i586-pc-linux-gnu. I planned to do
| something like this:
snip
| Are there any additional precautions/steps that I should take?

The only way you can safely change CHOST is by making new stages
through catalyst. There're various scripts which *sometimes* fix your
system after a CHOST change, but they're not reliable...

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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.14.2 and problem with ACPI (lost interrupt)

2005-11-22 Thread Abhay Kedia
On Monday 21 Nov 2005 2:17 pm, pat wrote:
 Well, the ACPI works, and it looks like everything works. I'm googling why
 this happen (an explanation), but without success :-\ I'm just curious,
 that's all.

This is what I could find
It implies the BIOS handover failed and then we get an IRQ mess.
http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/12/6/75
Could you check in your BIOS and see how many devices are sharing IRQ or how 
is your BIOS handling IRQs? May be a BIOS update is needed?

Abhay


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Re: default stage3 (was : [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?)

2005-11-22 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 11/22/05, Robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Gentoo has to be harder to use than other distros, you can't have full
  control over the system and still have it do things automatically for
  you.
 

Exactly, the computer can do amazing things, but in order to keep it
clean, specific and optmized, human intervention is crucial, its the
reason I have a job :) you just can't have a stable, reliable and
highly optmized system without messing with config files by hand. What
you can do is leave the work for the computer and it will give you a
general good option. General is not good enough for me, that's the
main reason I use Gentoo.

 I could not of said it any better.
 And of the distros I have used Gentoo is the best, although not my
 first.  And I would not recommend it to novice unless they had/want a
 lot of time learning

 My 2 cents ;)

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[gentoo-user] complaints about world file and ooodi

2005-11-22 Thread Uwe Thiem
Hi folks,

portage says something is wrong with my world file. emaint --check world 
produces this output:
'app-office/ooodi' has no ebuilds available

What am I to do?

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Re: [gentoo-user] complaints about world file and ooodi

2005-11-22 Thread Gerhard Hoogterp
On Tuesday 22 November 200

 portage says something is wrong with my world file. emaint --check world
 produces this output:
 'app-office/ooodi' has no ebuilds available

 What am I to do?

My first reaction would be to go to the /usr/portage/app-office en to remove 
or rename the ooodi dir. If it's needed it will be back after the next sync.. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] complaints about world file and ooodi

2005-11-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:20:07 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:

 Hi folks,
 
 portage says something is wrong with my world file. emaint --check
 world produces this output:
 'app-office/ooodi' has no ebuilds available

I means pretty much what it says. you have a package installed for which
there is no ebuild.

$ grep ooodi /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask -B 2
# Andreas Proschofsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] (27 Oct 2005)
# Broken, not maintained, up for removal
app-office/ooodi

You have a number of choices:

1) echo app-office/ooodi /etc/portage/package.unmask
   This will work until ooodi is removed from portage.

2) Do the above and copy the app-office/ooodi directory to your overlay.
   Then it will still work after it is removed from portage.

3) emerge -C app-office/ooodi
   This may be the best course if the program is broken as
   suggested.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: default stage3

2005-11-22 Thread Richard Fish
On 11/22/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The first command won't do anything, -D doesn't take account of of USE or
 CFLAG changes.

It will update gcc or any dependancies of gcc to the current version. 
Unless one of those things have been updated, there is no need to
build anything more than once, because the code produced by gcc
doesn't change based on the CFLAGS/CHOST/USE settings that _gcc_ was
compiled with.

emerge -uD system  emerge -e world is sufficient.

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Re: [gentoo-user] complaints about world file and ooodi

2005-11-22 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 22 November 2005 17:37, Gerhard Hoogterp wrote:
 On Tuesday 22 November 200

  portage says something is wrong with my world file. emaint --check
  world produces this output:
  'app-office/ooodi' has no ebuilds available
 
  What am I to do?

 My first reaction would be to go to the /usr/portage/app-office en to
 remove or rename the ooodi dir. If it's needed it will be back after the
 next sync..

Strange enough, there are two ebuilds in that directory, for 0.55 and 0.68.

Uwe

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Re: default stage3 (was : [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?)

2005-11-22 Thread Manuel McLure

Neil Bothwick wrote:

Try plugging in a wireless NIC. It's not hard to set on up manually when
you know what you are doing, but other distros will take care of this
automatically.


Perhaps if you're using WEP it's easier on a binary distro, but if 
you're using WPA-PSK it's a lot easier on Gentoo. Just edit 
wpa_supplicant.conf to enter your pre-shared key, and add


modules=(wpa_supplicant)
wlan0=(dhcp)

in /etc/conf.d/net

The other distros I tried all had long HOWTOs (complete with editing 
system scripts as opposed to just editing configuration files) on how to 
make sure wpa_supplicant would start before the interface came up.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: default stage3

2005-11-22 Thread Matthias Langer
On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 09:17 +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 00:28:26 +0100, Matthias Langer wrote:
 
   As I understand it, the first time you recompile new toolchain with
   your old toolchain, and then the 2nd time you're recompiling the
   toolchain with the new toolchain, with the idea that the new toolchain
   will compile/assemble/link/etc everything in a different way than the
   old toolchain.
   
   Please correct if I'm wrong.
  
  I would suggest 'emerge -uD gcc  emerge -e world'; This should
  recompile the new toolchain with the new toolchain and be considerably
  faster.
 
 The first command won't do anything, -D doesn't take account of of USE or
 CFLAG changes.

Well, you are right, in theory; In practice, where the toolchain on the
live-cd is not up to date, it will get completley recompiled by emerge
-uD gcc (after syncing) - at least I think so ...

However, thanks for pointing that out ...
 
 emerge -e system  emerge -e world might be better, but there are scripts
 on the forums that recompile just what you need, in the best order, such
 as; http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-282474.html
 
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[gentoo-user] kdelibs-3.4.1-r1 build fails

2005-11-22 Thread Ernie Schroder
OK I haven't updated this box in 10 months and finally decided to spend some 
time on maintainance. I successfully ran emerge -u system last night and have 
updated my profile and gotten Xorg running.
Now it's time to move on to world and kdelibs-3.4.2-r1 fails like so. I'm 
way rusty at this and hoped I could get some tips here.

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kspell_aspellclient.lo kspell_aspelldict.lo ../../ui/libkspell2.la -laspell
grep: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la: No such file or 
directory
/bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la: 
Nosuch file or directory
libtool: link: `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la' is not 
a valid libtool archive
make[4]: *** [kspell_aspell.la] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/kdelibs-3.4.1-r1/work/kdelibs-3.4.1/kspell2/plugins/aspell'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/kdelibs-3.4.1-r1/work/kdelibs-3.4.1/kspell2/plugins'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/kdelibs-3.4.1-r1/work/kdelibs-3.4.1/kspell2'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/kdelibs-3.4.1-r1/work/kdelibs-3.4.1'
make: *** [all] Error 2

!!! ERROR: kde-base/kdelibs-3.4.1-r1 failed.
!!! Function kde_src_compile, Line 173, Exitcode 2
!!! died running emake, kde_src_compile:make
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
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Re: default stage3 (was : [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?)

2005-11-22 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin

   The last top posting/html thread was 3 weeks ago... so yes it's time
 for another Keep Gentoo leet thread. Gentoo isn't about pain, it's
 about getting work done. Anything, and I mean *anything*, that allows me
 to spend less time working and more time having a life is a good thing.
 Therefore we can deduce that anyone who wants a harder install is a
 hobbyist, dilettante, and a dabbler.

no, I want an installation, that filters out everybody too dumb to read the 
fucking manual.

Because this people are also too dumb to read:
the nvidia/ati instructions and spam the mailing lists and forums with their 
non-problems, causing time and bandwith wasted.

the alsa-guide. Again, their dumbness causes pain for others

the gcc manpages. Instead, they will use some stupid, braindead useflags they 
found in the forums (like ffast-math or -funroll-all-loops) because some 
other idiot told them, that this are 'cool' 'fast' flags.

In short: stupid non-readers are causing pain. Making the world and everything 
easier for them, is more pain for the people clever enough to READ and FOLLOW 
the guides and instructions.

Idiots should use distris for idiots. There are enough out there. Why turn 
gentoo in one too?
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[gentoo-user] Re: kdelibs-3.4.1-r1 build fails

2005-11-22 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 14:18, Ernie Schroder wrote:
 OK I haven't updated this box in 10 months and finally decided to
 spend some time on maintainance. I successfully ran emerge -u system
 last night and have updated my profile and gotten Xorg running.
 Now it's time to move on to world and kdelibs-3.4.2-r1 fails like
 so. I'm way rusty at this and hoped I could get some tips here.

 --
 Regards, Ernie
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  08:12:25 up 14:03,  3 users,  load average: 0.32, 0.18, 0.66
 Linux 2.6.5-gentoo-r1 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+


 kspell_aspellclient.lo kspell_aspelldict.lo ../../ui/libkspell2.la
 -laspell grep: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la:
 No such file or directory
 /bin/sed: can't read
 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la: Nosuch file or
 directory
 libtool: link:
 `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la' is not a
 valid libtool archive

Do you have sys-libs/libstdc++-v3 installed?

Ciao
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Re: default stage3 (was : [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?)

2005-11-22 Thread Nagatoro

Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

Therefore we can deduce that anyone who wants a harder install is a
hobbyist, dilettante, and a dabbler.


no, I want an installation, that filters out everybody too dumb to read the 
fucking manual.


Or the FAQ? Where it's described how to do a stage1/2 equivalent install 
from a stage3.


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[gentoo-user] Re: Problem merging kde

2005-11-22 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 13:21, Thiago Lüttig wrote:
 Hi, i have some computers when I try to emerge the kde, or any
 package of it, i receice this message:
  Calculating dependencies \
 emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r3.
  I just can´t find thi damn lib. how to fix this ??

AFAIK it is no more in portage tree, if you issued an emerge sync 
recently, you can try to just emerge -p qt to see if it is going to 
be upgraded.

Ciao
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[gentoo-user] Which are the modularised xorg ebuilds

2005-11-22 Thread Nick Rout
eix xorg-x11 tells me that the following are available:

* x11-base/xorg-x11
 Available versions:  6.8.2-r4 ~6.8.2-r6 [M]6.8.99.15-r4 [M]
7.0.0_rc1

Which of these are the new modularised ones? does it start with 6.8.99
or with the 7.0.x series?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Which are the modularised xorg ebuilds

2005-11-22 Thread Nagatoro

Nick Rout wrote:

Which of these are the new modularised ones? does it start with 6.8.99
or with the 7.0.x series?


Looking at the ebuild I'd say 7.0.0_rc1.

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Re: [gentoo-user] kdelibs-3.4.1-r1 build fails

2005-11-22 Thread Manuel McLure

Ernie Schroder wrote:
OK I haven't updated this box in 10 months and finally decided to spend some 
time on maintainance. I successfully ran emerge -u system last night and have 
updated my profile and gotten Xorg running.
Now it's time to move on to world and kdelibs-3.4.2-r1 fails like so. I'm 
way rusty at this and hoped I could get some tips here.

[SNIP]
 libtool: link: 
`/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la'  is not a valid 
libtool archive


I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that you upgraded from gcc 3.3.4 to gcc 
3.4.4 since the last time you upgraded KDE. Try running


/usr/portage/sys-devel/gcc/files/fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.4

to fix up the .la files to reflect the new compiler.

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Re: default stage3 (was : [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?)

2005-11-22 Thread Billy Holmes

Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

no, I want an installation, that filters out everybody too dumb to read the 
fucking manual.


I understand where you are coming from, however, without people willing 
to push the envelope and try new things, nothing will innovated will 
happen. While being an expert on such matters definitely helps, by no 
means does that mean that accidents don't innovate. Look at penicillin, 
and various other inventions.


Stub your toe on an install a few times, and you'll learn a LOT. 
Granted, if you keep stubbing your toe then expect to get kill filed.


What is the saying? Insanity is doing the same thing over and over 
again, while always expecting a different outcome.


yeah.. something like that.
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Re: [gentoo-user] kdelibs-3.4.1-r1 build fails

2005-11-22 Thread Richard Fish
On 11/22/05, Manuel McLure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 /usr/portage/sys-devel/gcc/files/fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.4

Just a note...that path should be /sbin/fix_libtool_files.sh.  It may
well exist in the portage tree, but there is no guarantee that it will
be executable.  For on my system, that file does not have the
executable bit set, but the one in /sbin does.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Which are the modularised xorg ebuilds

2005-11-22 Thread Catalin Trifu

x11-base/xorg-server

Catalin

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Re: default stage3 (was : [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?)

2005-11-22 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 11/22/05, Nagatoro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
 Therefore we can deduce that anyone who wants a harder install is a
 hobbyist, dilettante, and a dabbler.
 
  no, I want an installation, that filters out everybody too dumb to read the
  fucking manual.

 Or the FAQ? Where it's described how to do a stage1/2 equivalent install
 from a stage3.

Gentoo is widely documented, and if you can read, most answers are
already at the wikis, howtos, gentoo docs and mailing lists, add to
this the foruns and user groups. Gentoo has a knowledge base that can
make you solve most problems, of course, if its one of those HARD
issues, you can always ask, but then again, those are 10% (if all of
that) from our traffic.

So, yes, the install was a how to read and follow the manual
teaching, and stage3 is easier and taught less than stage1, but hey,
its faster and have less side effects, and besides, if you can get a
stage1 from a stage3, who cares?!

But again, we'll have lots of RTFM and STFW in our foruns and mailing
lists... If you can find the manual page, don't give them the
solutions, give the link instead, teaching someone how to fish feeds
for a lifetime, giving someone the fish itself only feed once.

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Re: [gentoo-user] kdelibs-3.4.1-r1 build fails

2005-11-22 Thread Manuel McLure

Richard Fish wrote:

On 11/22/05, Manuel McLure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   /usr/portage/sys-devel/gcc/files/fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.4



Just a note...that path should be /sbin/fix_libtool_files.sh.  It may
well exist in the portage tree, but there is no guarantee that it will
be executable.  For on my system, that file does not have the
executable bit set, but the one in /sbin does.


Right you are. For some reason I thought this was one of those 
executables that is only in a /usr/portage/*/*/files directory because 
it's only used when installing/upgrading a specific package. I stand 
corrected :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] 80211/IPW2200 vs. Kernel 2.6.14

2005-11-22 Thread Derek Tracy
On 11/19/05, Bill Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 21:42 Fri 18 Nov , Matthias Bethke wrote:
  I just noticed the new Gentoo kernel 2.6.14-r2 includes support for both
  the generic 802.11 stack and the Intel IPW2200 driver. I've been using
  the separate ebuilds for these two so far, now I was wondering if
  there's still any advantage to that. Any opinions?

 I tried the 2.6.14 kernel with the ipw2200 driver, and it didn't work.
 Maybe it was fixed in release 2.

 Bill Roberts




Can anyone tell me if the in-kernel driver supports turning your card
on in promiscuous mode?

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Re: default stage3 (was : [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?)

2005-11-22 Thread kashani

Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
no, I want an installation, that filters out everybody too dumb to read the 
fucking manual.


	Where do you draw the line? Someday we're going to have real reverse 
dependecy checking, fixing, etc. So any idiot can blindly update x 
package and not have to realize that it was a major upgrade and manually 
check all his packages that depend on it and upgrade/rebuild those 
packages and restart the services. Is that too idiot proof?


You say coddling idiots, I say fixing broken or overly complicated 
processes.


	On a mailing list you're going to get questions stupid and otherwise. 
If you're not prepared to deal with this, unsubscribe or figure out how 
to use the delete button. I don't use Linux as a desktop so I generally 
delete 60-70% of the traffic in gentoo-user. You don't have to read the 
entire list.
	Let's take yet another of my real world examples that I like to use in 
place of random foaming at the mouth, The Gentoo Virtual Mail How-to. 
It's a decent How-to if you follow it exactly. By answering a hundred or 
so questions related to it in the forums I've been able to fix my 
installation faster when it broke, upgrade without problems, know 
exactly what errors are caused what symptoms, and ultimately change the 
original flawed design to work better and safer.


You say taking up space and bandwidth, I say QA testers though 
admittedly poorly trained.


	As for Gentoo being for idiots, I have a calendar at work. Every so 
often I mark a day a Super Genius when I think of something especially 
brillant. And every so often I mark a day as Befuddled by the Obvious 
for those days when I'm surprised that anyone actually lets me admin 
their network. Over the course of the year they generally total about 
the same. I suspect most of us are in the same boat. As long as Gentoo 
facilitates the Genius moments as well as keeping me a bit safer during 
the Befuddled moments it's striking the right balance.


You say we'll let in idiots, I say we have met the enemy and it is us.

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Re: [gentoo-user] 80211/IPW2200 vs. Kernel 2.6.14

2005-11-22 Thread Eric Bliss
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 01:02 pm, Derek Tracy wrote:
 On 11/19/05, Bill Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 21:42 Fri 18 Nov , Matthias Bethke wrote:
   I just noticed the new Gentoo kernel 2.6.14-r2 includes support for both
   the generic 802.11 stack and the Intel IPW2200 driver. I've been using
   the separate ebuilds for these two so far, now I was wondering if
   there's still any advantage to that. Any opinions?
 
  I tried the 2.6.14 kernel with the ipw2200 driver, and it didn't work.
  Maybe it was fixed in release 2.
 
  Bill Roberts
 
 
 
 
 Can anyone tell me if the in-kernel driver supports turning your card
 on in promiscuous mode?
 

Device Drivers
  Network device support
Wireless LAN (non-hamradio)
  Wireless LAN drivers (non-hamradio)  Wireless Extensions
Intel PRO/Wireless 2100 Network Connection
  Enable promiscuous mode

My guess is Yes. ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] 80211/IPW2200 vs. Kernel 2.6.14

2005-11-22 Thread Eric Bliss
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 01:55 pm, Eric Bliss wrote:
  
   I tried the 2.6.14 kernel with the ipw2200 driver, and it didn't work.
   Maybe it was fixed in release 2.
  
  Can anyone tell me if the in-kernel driver supports turning your card
  on in promiscuous mode?
  
 
 Device Drivers
   Network device support
 Wireless LAN (non-hamradio)
   Wireless LAN drivers (non-hamradio)  Wireless Extensions
 Intel PRO/Wireless 2100 Network Connection
   Enable promiscuous mode
 
 My guess is Yes. ;-)
 

Oops, sorry... That's the 2100, not the 2200.  The 2200 module only seems to 
support extra debugging output.  My mistake.

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[gentoo-user] Re: kdelibs-3.4.1-r1 build fails

2005-11-22 Thread Ernie Schroder
fix_libtool_files.sh is in the root path so it ran by doing:
# fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.4 I have resumed the build and only time will tell. 
I should know in about a half hour.

On a wierd note, I am set up to receive list posts to a folder in Kmail. Since 
posting my original question, I have gotten several posts on different 
matters, but have not received any replys to my question. I went to the gmane 
archives and read your replies there. Thanks all for helping.
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[gentoo-user] Highpoint Rocket HPT302 PATA EIDE controller

2005-11-22 Thread Stroller

Hi there,

Has anyone had any joy getting one of these to work under Gentoo, 
please? I bought it on the recommendations of users on 
uk.comp.os.linux, as I was looking for a Linux-compatible card 
available in the UK, but apparently no-one on that group is using the 
card under Gentoo.


Highpoint provide drivers as source; unpacking these  running make 
unfortunately fails on my system, with the following output:


$ make
make -C /usr/src/linux SUBDIRS=`pwd` modules
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.14-gentoo-r2'
  CC [M]  /home/stroller/hpt302/hpt.o
In file included from /home/stroller/hpt302/hpt.c:48:
	drivers/scsi/hosts.h:1:2: warning: #warning This file is obsolete, 
please use scsi/scsi_host.h instead

In file included from /home/stroller/hpt302/global.h:16,
 from /home/stroller/hpt302/entry.c:5,
 from /home/stroller/hpt302/hpt.c:54:
/home/stroller/hpt302/osheader.h:96:5: warning: DBG is not defined
In file included from /home/stroller/hpt302/hpt.c:54:
/home/stroller/hpt302/entry.c:8:5: warning: DBG is not defined
In file included from /home/stroller/hpt302/hpt.c:54:
/home/stroller/hpt302/entry.c: In function `hpt3xx_Abort':
	/home/stroller/hpt302/entry.c:500: error: structure has no member 
named `abort_reason'

/home/stroller/hpt302/entry.c: In function `fOsBuildSgl':
	/home/stroller/hpt302/entry.c:681: warning: implicit declaration of 
function `scsi_to_pci_dma_dir'

/home/stroller/hpt302/entry.c: At top level:
	/home/stroller/hpt302/entry.c:828: error: unknown field `abort' 
specified in initializer
	/home/stroller/hpt302/entry.c:828: error: unknown field `reset' 
specified in initializer

make[2]: *** [/home/stroller/hpt302/hpt.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [_module_/home/stroller/hpt302] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.14-gentoo-r2'
make: *** [default] Error 2
$

Setting the KERNELDIR variable to 
/lib/modules/2.6.14-gentoo-r2/build/ doesn't make any difference, not 
does editing the makefile so that drivers/scsi/host.h is included 
instead of hosts.h


A poster on the Gentoo forums indicated that he'd managed to get this 
card working using one of the other Highpoint drivers already in the 
Linux kernel, but that doesn't seem to work for me, as I have enabled 
these and the drive connected to the controller is still not shown. (Is 
there any other way to test whether the controller is working or not?)


$ zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i hpt
# CONFIG_HIGHPTE is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HPT34X=y
# CONFIG_HPT34X_AUTODMA is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HPT366=y

The device is shown on the PCI bus thusly:

	# :00:02.0 RAID bus controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT302 
(rev 02)

Subsystem: Triones Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 0001
Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 64
I/O ports at 1400 [size=8]
I/O ports at 1410 [size=4]
I/O ports at 1408 [size=8]
I/O ports at 1414 [size=4]
I/O ports at 1000 [size=256]
Expansion ROM at 5000 [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2

Many thanks in advance for any help or advices. I'm not averse to 
replacing the card if someone can recommend one available in the UK 
with drivers already in the kernel. It doesn't need to do RAID, only 
act as a 133 EIDE controller for the new hard-drive I put in this 
Pentium II server recently.


Stroller.

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Re: changing CHOST in stage3 (was : [gentoo-user] default stage3)

2005-11-22 Thread Matthias Langer
On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 17:11 -0500, Matthew Cline wrote:
 On 11/22/05, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Why? What do you expect to gain?
 
 
 The computer I am installing this on is an old Compaq laptop with a
 Cyrix MediaGX processor. Everything I have read suggests that this is
 equivalent to an i586.
 
 Am I wrong in thinking that the CHOST variable should reflect the kind
 of processor in the machine? Wouldn't leaving the CHOST at
 i386-pc-linux-gnu build unoptimized binaries?
 
 
 Matt
 

I'm not an expert, but this is just copied and pasted from the gentoo
handbook:

The CHOST variable declares the target build host for your system. This
variable should already be set to the correct value. Do not edit it as
that might break your system. If the CHOST variable does not look
correct to you, you might be using the wrong stage3 tarball.

Cheers, Matthias



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Re: default stage3 (was : [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?)

2005-11-22 Thread William Kenworthy
Actually, as someone who uses wireless across a number of nets, wireless
on gentoo sucks hugely.  

Was at a presentation the other day and saw an Ubutu user just walk in,
a couple of quick commands and he had connected - after much work I
still cant do that to a particular no-encryption net.  I am hoping the
last wpa_supplicant version I have installed will make the difference -
manual iwconfig does work by the way, just not via the gentoo files!

A mess of config files
(/etc/conf.d/wireless, /etc/conf.d/net, /etc/wpa_supplicant, ...),
different versions of software work in only some combinations - only
0.4.5 (~x86) will work with 2.6.14, some other versions will do WPA_PSK,
but not no encryption.- - I suspect the gentoo config design is the main
stumbling block.

I realise wireless is complicated (read the above files for instance,
but gentoo has complicated things further (try and work out which of the
above files a particular variable will work ... note that for
wpa_supplicant, not all permutations are listed in the otherwise
comprehensive instructions)

BillK


On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 09:24 -0800, Manuel McLure wrote:
 Neil Bothwick wrote:
  Try plugging in a wireless NIC. It's not hard to set on up manually when
  you know what you are doing, but other distros will take care of this
  automatically.
 
 Perhaps if you're using WEP it's easier on a binary distro, but if 
 you're using WPA-PSK it's a lot easier on Gentoo. Just edit 
 wpa_supplicant.conf to enter your pre-shared key, and add
 
 modules=(wpa_supplicant)
 wlan0=(dhcp)
 
 in /etc/conf.d/net
 
 The other distros I tried all had long HOWTOs (complete with editing 
 system scripts as opposed to just editing configuration files) on how to 
 make sure wpa_supplicant would start before the interface came up.
 
 
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Re: default stage3 (was : [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?)

2005-11-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 09:24:49 -0800, Manuel McLure wrote:

  Try plugging in a wireless NIC. It's not hard to set on up manually
  when you know what you are doing, but other distros will take care of
  this automatically.
 
 Perhaps if you're using WEP it's easier on a binary distro, but if 
 you're using WPA-PSK it's a lot easier on Gentoo. Just edit 
 wpa_supplicant.conf to enter your pre-shared key

Don't forget recompiling your kernel to include the necessary support,
Googling to find out which drivers to use and emerging them, etc.


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Re: default stage3 (was : [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?)

2005-11-22 Thread Manuel McLure

William Kenworthy wrote:

Actually, as someone who uses wireless across a number of nets, wireless
on gentoo sucks hugely.  


Was at a presentation the other day and saw an Ubutu user just walk in,
a couple of quick commands and he had connected - after much work I
still cant do that to a particular no-encryption net.  I am hoping the
last wpa_supplicant version I have installed will make the difference -
manual iwconfig does work by the way, just not via the gentoo files!

A mess of config files
(/etc/conf.d/wireless, /etc/conf.d/net, /etc/wpa_supplicant, ...),
different versions of software work in only some combinations - only
0.4.5 (~x86) will work with 2.6.14, some other versions will do WPA_PSK,
but not no encryption.- - I suspect the gentoo config design is the main
stumbling block.

I realise wireless is complicated (read the above files for instance,
but gentoo has complicated things further (try and work out which of the
above files a particular variable will work ... note that for
wpa_supplicant, not all permutations are listed in the otherwise
comprehensive instructions)


Interesting, as the distro I was specifically comparing to was Kubuntu - 
getting it to connect to my WPA-PSK network at home was a PITA, while 
Gentoo worked beautifully - emerge ndiswrapper, run ndiswrapper -i to 
install the driver, emerge wpa_supplicant, modify a stanza in the 
wpa_supplicant.conf file to reflect my SSID and PSK, and ifup wlan0.


Kubuntu had no options for entering a WPA-PSK key other than manually 
editing the files, and you had to trick it to make sure that it ran the 
supplicant before trying to bring the interface up.


By the way, wpa_supplicant should handle non-encrypted and WEP networks 
very nicely - if you use it you don't need to play around with 
/etc/conf.d/wireless.


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[gentoo-user] Re: kdelibs-3.4.1-r1 build fails

2005-11-22 Thread Ernie Schroder
Thanks guys! it worked
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Re: changing CHOST in stage3 (was : [gentoo-user] default stage3)

2005-11-22 Thread Richard Fish
On 11/22/05, Matthias Langer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 17:11 -0500, Matthew Cline wrote:
  On 11/22/05, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Why? What do you expect to gain?
  
 
  The computer I am installing this on is an old Compaq laptop with a
  Cyrix MediaGX processor. Everything I have read suggests that this is
  equivalent to an i586.
 
  Am I wrong in thinking that the CHOST variable should reflect the kind
  of processor in the machine? Wouldn't leaving the CHOST at
  i386-pc-linux-gnu build unoptimized binaries?
 
 
  Matt
 

 I'm not an expert, but this is just copied and pasted from the gentoo
 handbook:

 The CHOST variable declares the target build host for your system. This
 variable should already be set to the correct value. Do not edit it as
 that might break your system. If the CHOST variable does not look
 correct to you, you might be using the wrong stage3 tarball.

 Cheers, Matthias

AFAICT, CHOST is (mostly) used by portage for the --host argument to
the autoconf scripts, which in turn uses it to determine the path for
the tool chain.  So having CHOST=i386-blah-blah means you are using
the tool chain /usr/bin/i386-blah-blah-*.

This is also the _default_ host that gcc will build code for.  So
without any -march/-mcpu/-mtune settings in CFLAGS, you will get i386
code.  However, you can override that in CFLAGS, so that gcc produces
i586 code by default (if that is what you want).

AFAIK, there should be no difference in code produced by
i586-pc-linux-gnu-gcc and i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -march=i586.  If
there is, then things like distcc should be horribly broken.

-Richard

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[gentoo-user] unknown network activity as shown by xosview

2005-11-22 Thread Rob
Hi,

Does anyone know what network activity is being shown by xosview?  Is it
activity before iptables filtering, or after?  I wonder as I am getting
a constant flow varying between 100-1000 as read on xosview.

I get this with no internet related running processes.  I have a default
block on my firewall.  My god, is there that much virus and/or scanning
activity around?  or is xosview not reliable?  Maybe it is DHCP
activity.  I don't know as I have iptables set up not to log that kind
of stuff.

Thanks,

Rob.
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[gentoo-user] Be careful with MySQL-5.0.16 (cahnges ebuild and rc-script)

2005-11-22 Thread Francesco R.
From Bugzilla Bug 113241 mysql-5.0.16 is out

Thanks for the fast report, here it is :
-ChangeLog
  Version bump for the 5.0 series.
  The ebuild has been rewritten, it's the first step to slot the mysql 
database
  server. (diff 5.0.16 and 5.0.16-r30 if you don't belive at it)

  Also the rc scripts are changed, hopefully bug #109380 is gone (Thanks 
to
  Rodrigo Severo for shaping it).

  It's possible from now start more than one server tweaking the
  /etc/conf.d/mysql .

  The future of slotted MySQL is still uncertain but the rc script will 
be kept.

  More than uncertain is the slotting of MySQL-4.0 too.

  reassuming, be careful playing with these ebuilds, never ever ~ARCH 
keywords
  has been so unstable.
-/ChangeLog---

Again _be_ careful, this stuff has been nigtly tested, the build system 
is'nt changed very much so if it start it should behave good, anything 
related to the script (also the MySQL provided see patch 080...) may be 
not functioning

Additionally, the syntax of the /etc/conf.d/mysql script may still 
change.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Highpoint Rocket HPT302 PATA EIDE controller

2005-11-22 Thread Thomas Harold

Stroller wrote:


Hi there,

Has anyone had any joy getting one of these to work under Gentoo, 
please? I bought it on the recommendations of users on uk.comp.os.linux, 
as I was looking for a Linux-compatible card available in the UK, but 
apparently no-one on that group is using the card under Gentoo.


Key things to look for in menuconfig for Rocket133 might be:

(D)evice drivers
-- ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support
-- -- SCSI emulation support
-- -- generic/default IDE chipset support
-- -- PCI IDE chipset support
-- -- Generic PCI IDE Chipset Support

Probably the only one that matters is (CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HPT366=y):

-- -- HPT36X/37X chipset support (turn this ON as BUILT-IN)

Yes, the Rocket 133SB (Rocket133SB) HPT302 chip is apparently supported 
by the HPT366.c file. You can find this by grepping the kernel sources:


# cd /usr/src/linux
# find . -print | xargs grep -i 'hpt302'
# grep -i 'hpt366' .config

(snipped from my Nov2005 blog)
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[gentoo-user] what is the best strategy for using sysklogd with iptables?

2005-11-22 Thread Rob
Hi,

I am using sysklogd with iptables.  I am wondering what the best
strategy is for sending iptables log output to a single file, rather
than having logged packets show up all over in /var/log/?  I haven't
been able yet to figure this out by myself.  I must be missing some doc
info somewhere.

Thank you.  Rob.
-

Here is what I have now for syslog.conf:

#  /etc/syslog.conf Configuration file for syslogd.
#
#   For more information see syslog.conf(5)
#   manpage.
#   This is from Debian, we are using it for now
#   Daniel Robbins, 5/15/99

#
# First some standard logfiles.  Log by facility.
#

auth,authpriv.* /var/log/auth.log
*.*;auth,authpriv.none  -/var/log/syslog
#cron.* /var/log/cron.log
daemon.*-/var/log/daemon.log
kern.*  -/var/log/kern.log
lpr.*   -/var/log/lpr.log
mail.*  /var/log/mail.log
user.*  -/var/log/user.log
uucp.*  -/var/log/uucp.log
*.debug /var/log/firewall.log
#
# Logging for the mail system. Split it up so that
# it is easy to write scripts to parse these files.
#
#mail.info   -/var/log/mail.info
#mail.warn   -/var/log/mail.warn
#mail.err/var/log/mail.err

# Logging for INN news system
#
#news.crit   /var/log/news/news.crit
#news.err/var/log/news/news.err
#news.notice -/var/log/news/news.notice

#
# Some `catch-all' logfiles.
#
*.=info;*.=notice;*.=warn;\
auth,authpriv.none;\
cron,daemon.none;\
mail,news.none  -/var/log/messages

#
# Emergencies are sent to everybody logged in.
#
*.emerg *

#
# I like to have messages displayed on the console, but only on a virtual
# console I usually leave idle.
#
#daemon,mail.*;\
#   news.=crit;news.=err;news.=notice;\
#   *.=debug;*.=info;\
#   *.=notice;*.=warn   /dev/tty8

# The named pipe /dev/xconsole is for the `xconsole' utility.  To use it,
# you must invoke `xconsole' with the `-file' option:
#
#$ xconsole -file /dev/xconsole [...]
#
# NOTE: adjust the list below, or you'll go crazy if you have a reasonably
#  busy site..
#
#daemon.*,mail.*;\
#   news.crit;news.err;news.notice;\
#   *.=debug;*.=info;\
#   *.=notice;*.=warn   |/dev/xconsole

#local2.*-/var/log/ppp.log

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Re: [gentoo-user] what is the best strategy for using sysklogd with iptables?

2005-11-22 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 18:32 -0800, Rob wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am using sysklogd with iptables.  I am wondering what the best
 strategy is for sending iptables log output to a single file, rather
 than having logged packets show up all over in /var/log/?  I haven't
 been able yet to figure this out by myself.  I must be missing some doc
 info somewhere.

How about going to the source of the logging?  You can change log files
and output with iptables + ulog.  ulog is quite nice.
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Re: [gentoo-user] confused udev?

2005-11-22 Thread Richard Fish
On 11/22/05, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ fdisk -l /dev/plextor_memstick
 Disk /dev/plextor_memstick: 1050 MB, 1050934784 bytes
 129 heads, 19 sectors/track, 837 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 2451 * 512 = 1254912 bytes

 Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  
 System
 /dev/plextor_memstick1   *   1 838 1026294e  
 W95 FAT16 (LBA)
 Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
  phys=(842, 128, 19) logical=(837, 58, 18)

 So, there is really a partition. This is the original partitioning. I
 didn't change it because I want to keep it vfat, in case I need to use
 it on a Mac (or even on a Windows PC, who knows?).

Ok, do dmesg and /proc/partitions agree that there is a partition
there?  If not, then the problem is that the kernel is not recognizing
your partition table.  I would suggest:

insert the key
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
remove then re-insert the key
fdisk /dev/sdb
create single partition, type 'b'
mkfs.vfat -n MYKEY -F 32 /dev/sda1

FAIR WARNING: the above _will_ destroy all data on the key!!

After this, I things should work normally...I hope.

-Richard

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Re: changing CHOST in stage3 (was : [gentoo-user] default stage3)

2005-11-22 Thread Richard Fish
On 11/22/05, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 AFAIK, there should be no difference in code produced by
 i586-pc-linux-gnu-gcc and i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -march=i586.  If
 there is, then things like distcc should be horribly broken.

Well, I've been following a related thread on gentoo-dev, and it seems
I am wrong with regards to building glibc.  CHOST is much more
important for glibc, leading to the support (or lack thereof) of
things like nptl.

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106556

So for getting a completely compatible i586 install, you may have to
risk changing CHOST, since there is no i586 tarball available.

-Richard

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Re: changing CHOST in stage3 (was : [gentoo-user] default stage3)

2005-11-22 Thread Alexander Skwar
Matthew Cline schrieb:

 Am I wrong in thinking that the CHOST variable should reflect the kind
 of processor in the machine?

Yes.

 Wouldn't leaving the CHOST at
 i386-pc-linux-gnu build unoptimized binaries?

No.

Alexander Skwar
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