Re: [gentoo-user] Spamassasin Pulling in GNUPG - Why?

2006-06-16 Thread Graham Murray
Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You;re Right. Why is that?
 Does anyone knows?

The updated rule sets fetched by sa-update are signed, so sa-update
calls gnupg to validate them. So the spamassassin ebuild has a hard
dependency on gnupg.
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Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious blocking

2006-06-16 Thread Michael Weyershäuser
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David Corbin wrote:
 When i try to upgrade 'stuff', (emerge -uavD world).  Emerge shows that 
 kdenetwork is blocking some stuff.
 
 
 ... done!
 [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdenetwork-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/krdc-3.5.2)
 [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdenetwork-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/lisa-3.5.2)
 [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdenetwork-3.5* (is blocking 
 kde-base/kwifimanager-3.5.2)
 
 But, when I attempt to unmerge kdenetwork, it fails saying it can't find 
 the 
 package.  emerge -s confirms that I do not have this package installed.
 
 Ideas?

Can you give us the complete output of 'emerge -pvDu world', please?
My bets are that something depends on kdenetwork and wants to pull
it in while you have some of the split ebuilds from kdenetwork
installed which causes the blockage.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage 2.1 weirdness

2006-06-16 Thread Sergio Polini
Bo Ørsted Andresen:
 Look at the first section at the GWN from the 16. of January [1].
 Also this (autouse) has recently been added to the release notes of
 portage 2.1 [2] (they forgot until now).

Thanks! I didn't subscribe to the GWN. My fault ;-)

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[gentoo-user] OpenLDAP error after upgrade

2006-06-16 Thread Trenton Adams

Hi guys,

After upgrading from 2.2.28-r3 to 2.3.24-r1, I noticed that there's a
problem in my LDAP server the prevents it from working at all.  As a
result, I had to downgrade back to 2.2.

If I do an *ldapsearch* command, I get the following...
Internal (implementation specific) error (80)
Additional information: internal error

The logs say the following.  Is there a way of upgrading the LDAP DB
to be functional after the upgrade?  Should I downgrade, slapcat, and
upgrade again?

tail -18 /var/log/syslog
Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 fd=13 ACCEPT from
IP=127.0.0.1:60261 (IP=0.0.0.0:389)
Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 op=0 BIND dn= method=128
Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 op=0 RESULT tag=97 err=0 text=
Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 op=1 SRCH
base=dc=adamsbros,dc=org scope=2 deref=0 filter=(labeledURI=*)
Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 op=1 SRCH attr=labeledURI
Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: = entry_decode:
slap_str2undef_ad(a-9b67-bde9526b77f4): AttributeDescription contains
inappropriate characters
Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 op=1 SEARCH RESULT tag=101
err=80 nentries=0 text=internal error
Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 op=2 UNBIND
Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 fd=13 closed
Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 fd=13 ACCEPT from
IP=127.0.0.1:50707 (IP=0.0.0.0:389)
Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 op=0 BIND dn= method=128
Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 op=0 RESULT tag=97 err=0 text=
Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 op=1 SRCH
base=dc=adamsbros,dc=org scope=2 deref=0 filter=(labeledURI=*)
Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 op=1 SRCH attr=labeledURI
Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: = entry_decode:
slap_str2undef_ad(a-9b67-bde9526b77f4): AttributeDescription contains
inappropriate characters
Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 op=1 SEARCH RESULT tag=101
err=80 nentries=0 text=internal error
Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 op=2 UNBIND
Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 fd=13 closed
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[gentoo-user] Re: OpenLDAP error after upgrade

2006-06-16 Thread Trenton Adams

I found something interesting about the merge of 2.3.

The following text is not true.  It says there is no data, but there
is.  Perhaps this is a bug?

*
* Scanning datadir(s) from slapd.conf and
* the default installdir for Versiontags
* (/var/lib/openldap-data may appear twice)
*
* - Checking /var/lib/openldap-data...
*Found Versiontag in /var/lib/openldap-data
*Versiontag doesn't match current major release!
*No real problem, seems there's no database.
*
* - Checking /var/lib/openldap-data...
*Found Versiontag in /var/lib/openldap-data
*Versiontag doesn't match current major release!
*No real problem, seems there's no database.
*

*
* All datadirs are fine, proceeding with merge now...
*


On 6/16/06, Trenton Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi guys,

After upgrading from 2.2.28-r3 to 2.3.24-r1, I noticed that there's a
problem in my LDAP server the prevents it from working at all.  As a
result, I had to downgrade back to 2.2.

If I do an *ldapsearch* command, I get the following...
Internal (implementation specific) error (80)
Additional information: internal error

The logs say the following.  Is there a way of upgrading the LDAP DB
to be functional after the upgrade?  Should I downgrade, slapcat, and
upgrade again?

 tail -18 /var/log/syslog
Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 fd=13 ACCEPT from
IP=127.0.0.1:60261 (IP=0.0.0.0:389)
Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 op=0 BIND dn= method=128
Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 op=0 RESULT tag=97 err=0 text=
Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 op=1 SRCH
base=dc=adamsbros,dc=org scope=2 deref=0 filter=(labeledURI=*)
Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 op=1 SRCH attr=labeledURI
Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: = entry_decode:
slap_str2undef_ad(a-9b67-bde9526b77f4): AttributeDescription contains
inappropriate characters
Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 op=1 SEARCH RESULT tag=101
err=80 nentries=0 text=internal error
Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 op=2 UNBIND
Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 fd=13 closed
Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 fd=13 ACCEPT from
IP=127.0.0.1:50707 (IP=0.0.0.0:389)
Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 op=0 BIND dn= method=128
Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 op=0 RESULT tag=97 err=0 text=
Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 op=1 SRCH
base=dc=adamsbros,dc=org scope=2 deref=0 filter=(labeledURI=*)
Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 op=1 SRCH attr=labeledURI
Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: = entry_decode:
slap_str2undef_ad(a-9b67-bde9526b77f4): AttributeDescription contains
inappropriate characters
Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 op=1 SEARCH RESULT tag=101
err=80 nentries=0 text=internal error
Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 op=2 UNBIND
Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 fd=13 closed


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Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious blocking

2006-06-16 Thread Alexander Skwar

David Corbin wrote:
When i try to upgrade 'stuff', (emerge -uavD world).  Emerge shows that 
kdenetwork is blocking some stuff.



... done!
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdenetwork-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/krdc-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdenetwork-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/lisa-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdenetwork-3.5* (is blocking 
kde-base/kwifimanager-3.5.2)


But, when I attempt to unmerge kdenetwork, it fails saying it can't find the 
package.  emerge -s confirms that I do not have this package installed.


Ideas?


You can't have both the split ebuilds (krdc, ...) and the monolithic ebuilds
(kdenetwork) installed at the same time.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge wxGTK with gtk2 in your USE

2006-06-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:41:55 -0700, michael higgins wrote:

 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/wxGTK-2.6.2-r1  USE=gnome -X -debug -doc
 -joystick -odbc -opengl -sdl -unicode 0 kB
 
 Total size of downloads: 0 kB
 
 Unfortunately, I don't see, simply, where that flag is available. What
 am I missing?

Do you also have wxGTK-2.4 installed? I have 2.4 and 2.6 here, slotted,
and 2.4 has a gtk2 USE flag. 


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[gentoo-user] /usr/portage size

2006-06-16 Thread David Corbin
While updating today, I ran out of space on /usr.  Looking closer at what was 
being used, /usr/portage is taking about 50% of /usr.  Can this be pruned 
somehow?

David
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[gentoo-user] Trouble with dhcpcd after update

2006-06-16 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Hello all,
I made a big update on a machine (about six month without any maintenance,
I KNOW it's bad!!); now here is what happens when I say 
..
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/jean]# dhcpcd
ClassID  = Linux 2.6.16-gentoo-r9 i686
ClientID = 61.7.1.00.05.5D.A2.56.5D
parseDhcpMsgRecv: 8 options received:
i=1   len=4   option = 255.255.255.0
i=3   len=4   option = 192.168.0.1
i=6   len=12  option = 212.27.32.176
i=6   len=12  option = 212.27.32.177
i=6   len=12  option = 213.228.0.212
i=15  len=11  option = bornier.net
i=28  len=4   option = 192.168.0.255
i=51  len=4   option = 5184000
i=53  len=1   option = 2
i=54  len=4   option = 192.168.0.1
DhcpMsgRecv-yiaddr  = 192.168.0.253
DhcpMsgRecv-siaddr  = 192.168.0.1
DhcpMsgRecv-giaddr  = 0.0.0.0
DhcpMsgRecv-sname   = 
ServerHardwareAddr   = 00.90.27.E6.2C.9C
parseDhcpMsgRecv: 10 options received:
i=1   len=4   option = 255.255.255.0
i=3   len=4   option = 192.168.0.1
i=6   len=12  option = 212.27.32.176
i=6   len=12  option = 212.27.32.177
i=6   len=12  option = 213.228.0.212
i=15  len=11  option = bornier.net
i=28  len=4   option = 192.168.0.255
i=51  len=4   option = 5184000
i=53  len=1   option = 5
i=54  len=4   option = 192.168.0.1
i=58  len=4   option = 0
i=59  len=4   option = 0
DhcpMsgRecv-yiaddr  = 192.168.0.253
DhcpMsgRecv-siaddr  = 192.168.0.1
DhcpMsgRecv-giaddr  = 0.0.0.0
DhcpMsgRecv-sname   = 
ServerHardwareAddr   = 00.90.27.E6.2C.9C
...

Then my console is *out of use* but I'm connected all right; but the
trouble is I want of course to get a connection during boot, and the same
message appears when booting, and then nothing more happens to my machine:
the booting process is simply stopped.

There is a dhcpc directory in /etc and it is empty...

I don't know how to understand this message; can anyone help?
tia
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Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/portage size

2006-06-16 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Friday 16 June 2006 12:34, David Corbin wrote:
 While updating today, I ran out of space on /usr.  Looking closer at what
 was being used, /usr/portage is taking about 50% of /usr.  Can this be
 pruned somehow?

/usr/portage/distfiles contains the sources of everything that you have 
installed. If you delete it, it will be downloaded again the next time it is 
needed.

If you have buildpkg in your FEATURES (if you don't know what that is you 
don't), then everything that you have emerged will be stored in binary form 
in /usr/portage/packages.

eclean (which belongs to app-portage/gentoolkit) can be used to prune those 
two folders. Everything else in /usr/portage can be restored by emerge --sync 
if one ever deletes it. It is needed to emerge anything.

HtH

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Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/portage size

2006-06-16 Thread Teresa and Dale
David Corbin wrote:

While updating today, I ran out of space on /usr.  Looking closer at what was 
being used, /usr/portage is taking about 50% of /usr.  Can this be pruned 
somehow?

David
  


Man eclean should help.  I think it is eclean distfiles for the command.

Hope that helps.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/portage size

2006-06-16 Thread Alexander Skwar

David Corbin wrote:
While updating today, I ran out of space on /usr.  Looking closer at what was 
being used, /usr/portage is taking about 50% of /usr.  Can this be pruned 
somehow?


eclean

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Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/portage size

2006-06-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:44:13 +0200, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:

  While updating today, I ran out of space on /usr.  Looking closer at
  what was being used, /usr/portage is taking about 50% of /usr.  Can
  this be pruned somehow?
 
 /usr/portage/distfiles contains the sources of everything that you have 
 installed. If you delete it, it will be downloaded again the next time
 it is needed.
 
 If you have buildpkg in your FEATURES (if you don't know what that is
 you don't), then everything that you have emerged will be stored in
 binary form in /usr/portage/packages.

I always point DISTDIR and PKGDIR to somewhere else, (PORTAGE_TMPDIR
too). It is safer to have them on a non-system partition, so you can't
cripple your computer if they fill up the partition.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Google Earth: Masked?

2006-06-16 Thread Nico Schümann

2006/6/15, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

A shame it's binary-only, so it won't run on everything that runs Linux.

Yes, it is, of course. But I think, google will never open the source
because of its policy.
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Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/portage size

2006-06-16 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 16 June 2006 11:34, David Corbin wrote:
 While updating today, I ran out of space on /usr.  Looking closer at what
 was being used, /usr/portage is taking about 50% of /usr.  Can this be
 pruned somehow?

Sure. Remove all old tarballs under /usr/portage/distfiles.

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Re: [gentoo-user] linux make modules solved

2006-06-16 Thread Daniel Drake

Justin R Findlay wrote:

I finally figured out why linux wouldn't build its modules.  Although I
learned a lot about make it was because I had set

GREP_OPTIONS=--color=always


Using --color=auto would have circumvented this problem and still 
given you pretty colours when you run grep from the console.


Daniel

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slow redraw of windows following -uD --world

2006-06-16 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 16 June 2006 03:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Hi,
 
 
  well, you gave an example why I never use -D (deep) updates.
 
  I bet something 'broke'  because a dependency got updated.

 What is the advantage of never using `deep'... seems I recall reading
 here that it was sort of necessary after a major update and sync.

  Try revdep-rebuild, maybe it will solve the problem.

 Well it found a pretty basic package to be broken:
 gcc-4.1.1F and is not running this:
 emerge --oneshot  =sys-devel/gcc-4.1.1F

 I think this will run for a while do think it will have bearing on
 the slow redraw I see?


no, maybe it is fontconfig, maybe your update changed the opengl you are using 
(have you checked, that you are using nvidia-glx as a nvidia user and 
atis-glx as ati user?), maybe something else. Do you have amd64 and 
cool'n'quiet activated? Or a P4 that is overheating and throttling?

--deep is almost never needed. Some people love it and tell everybody to use 
it. Usually people who are version number freaks. But in 90% it is useless to 
harmfull.
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[gentoo-user] Streaming and videoconferencing in Gentoo

2006-06-16 Thread Alex Condori
I'm new to this listserv. I'd like to get some advice from
experienced gentoo users out there...

I have a fully operative Gentoo system in the office.
I'd like to build an infrastructure that could be able
to do two things:

- Serve audio  video streaming to the internet
(I'd like this stream to be dummy-proof, because
I want people with simple winXP systems
to play the streams with windows tools like
Windows Media Player that are easily found in
such OS)

- Videoconferencing.

Did any of you test such a system. I'd appreciate
to get information about solutions that have been
tested under Gentoo and work in your homes or
jobs. I don't try to build a high performance system,
but a low-end one.

Thanks.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Slow redraw of windows following -uD --world

2006-06-16 Thread reader
Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Try revdep-rebuild, maybe it will solve the problem.

 Well it found a pretty basic package to be broken:
 gcc-4.1.1F and is not running this:
 emerge --oneshot  =sys-devel/gcc-4.1.1F

 I think this will run for a while do think it will have bearing on
 the slow redraw I see?


I've run into some kind of madness with gcc.  Afer the rebuild cited
above I'm told it installed successfully but then another fresh revdep
tells me this is broken:

  broken /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libgcjawt.laes (requires
  /usr/lib/lib-gnu-java-awt-peer-gtk.la)

  broken /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libgij.la (requires
 /usr/lib/libgcj.la) done.

And wants to run the hours long oneshot again.

but since you say its not likely to be related to my redraw problem I
think I'll start a new thread about that. 

 no, maybe it is fontconfig, maybe your update changed the opengl you
 are using (have you checked, that you are using nvidia-glx as a
 nvidia user and atis-glx as ati user?), maybe something else. Do you
 have amd64 and cool'n'quiet activated? Or a P4 that is overheating
 and throttling?

About checking glx.  I'm not sure what you meant there...  I guess
nvidia-glx and atis-glx are modules?... Modprobe knows nothing about
them here. /usr/src/linux/.config shows one setting related to nvidia:
CONFIG_AGP_NVIDIA=m. 
Can you explain a little more what you mean there?

I have an MSI FX5700LE-TD256 vid card.  But prior to this upgrade I
had good redraw / scroll speeds.

No amd64... its Celeron MSI 865PE mobo. about overheat: I see the
redraw problem right at boot too before overheating would have happened.

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[gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild madness.

2006-06-16 Thread reader
using revdep-rebuild it finds:

  broken /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libgcjawt.laes (requires
  /usr/lib/lib-gnu-java-awt-peer-gtk.la)
 
 broken /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libgij.la (requires
 /usr/lib/libgcj.lals) done.  :

And does a oneshot on gcc-4.1.1 

After the hours long build it is pronounced a success.
A fresh revdep-rebuild finds the same problem and tries to oneshot
gcc-4.1.1 again.
(and yes the .rev* files were deleted in between)

What are those dependancies about?

The first one listed as being needed is present:

ls -l /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/lib-gnu-java-awt-peer-gtk.la 
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1689 Jun 16 01:59 \
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/lib-gnu-java-awt-peer-gtk.la
 
(not the second)

I've ran two full oneshots on gcc-4.1.1 taking hours.  Both were
pronounced successfull.   But running revdeb-rebuild still shows those
same problems.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which process is using port 5060 ?

2006-06-16 Thread Alexander Skwar

Dave S wrote:

Hi all,

Apparently my SIP port 5060 is in use. Is there a Linux command to tell me 
what process is using this port. I have a vague memory of seeing such a 
command but just cannot remember or find it.


netstat -tulpen
netstat -tulpen | grep 5060

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which process is using port 5060 ?

2006-06-16 Thread Alexander Skwar

fire-eyes wrote:


netstat -anp | grep :5060

More useful would be lsof (emerge lsof)

lsof -n | grep :5060


Why do you say, that lsof is more useful?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/Desktop $ sudo netstat -anp | grep 514
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:514 0.0.0.0:*   
7050/syslog-ng
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/Desktop $ lsof -n | grep :514
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/Desktop $ sudo lsof -n | grep :514
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/Desktop $

So, with my test case, netstat returned me the program which
is listening on port 514/udp. lsof showed nothing.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slow redraw of windows following -uD --world

2006-06-16 Thread Rumen Yotov
Hi,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Try revdep-rebuild, maybe it will solve the problem.
 Well it found a pretty basic package to be broken:
 gcc-4.1.1F and is not running this:
 emerge --oneshot  =sys-devel/gcc-4.1.1F

 I think this will run for a while do think it will have bearing on
 the slow redraw I see?
 
 I've run into some kind of madness with gcc.  Afer the rebuild cited
 above I'm told it installed successfully but then another fresh revdep
 tells me this is broken:
 
   broken /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libgcjawt.laes (requires
   /usr/lib/lib-gnu-java-awt-peer-gtk.la)
 
   broken /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libgij.la (requires
  /usr/lib/libgcj.la) done.
 
 And wants to run the hours long oneshot again.
 
 but since you say its not likely to be related to my redraw problem I
 think I'll start a new thread about that. 
 
Check Bug-125728 for a solution (must change toolchain.eclass in an
overlay) and rebuild GCC *or* just manually fix/change broken .la files.
...SKIP...
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild madness.

2006-06-16 Thread Rumen Yotov
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 using revdep-rebuild it finds:
 
   broken /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libgcjawt.laes (requires
   /usr/lib/lib-gnu-java-awt-peer-gtk.la)
  
  broken /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libgij.la (requires
  /usr/lib/libgcj.lals) done.  :
 
 And does a oneshot on gcc-4.1.1 
 
 After the hours long build it is pronounced a success.
 A fresh revdep-rebuild finds the same problem and tries to oneshot
 gcc-4.1.1 again.
 (and yes the .rev* files were deleted in between)
 
 What are those dependancies about?
 
 The first one listed as being needed is present:
 
 ls -l /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/lib-gnu-java-awt-peer-gtk.la 
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1689 Jun 16 01:59 \
 /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/lib-gnu-java-awt-peer-gtk.la
  
 (not the second)
 
 I've ran two full oneshots on gcc-4.1.1 taking hours.  Both were
 pronounced successfull.   But running revdeb-rebuild still shows those
 same problems.
 
Hi,
Bug-125728, *or* disable java USE flag for GCC.
Rumen


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[gentoo-user] Re: revdep-rebuild madness.

2006-06-16 Thread reader
Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] write [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 using revdep-rebuild it finds:
 
 Hi,
 Bug-125728, *or* disable java USE flag for GCC.
 Rumen

Thanks... and I'm probably mis-understanding something here but I
don't see `java' as a USE flag that gcc knows anything about:

 emerge -vp gcc

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] sys-devel/gcc-4.1.1  USE=fortran gcj gtk nls objc \
 -bootstrap -build -doc -hardened -ip28 -ip32r10k -mudflap -multislot
  -nocxx -objc++ -objc-gc -vanilla 0 kB 


-java shows the same thing:


root # USE=-java emerge -vp gcc

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] sys-devel/gcc-4.1.1  USE=fortran gcj gtk nls objc \
 -bootstrap -build -doc -hardened -ip28 -ip32r10k -mudflap \
 -multislot -nocxx -objc++ -objc-gc -vanilla 0 kB 

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[gentoo-user] Re: Slow redraw of windows following -uD --world

2006-06-16 Thread reader
Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Check Bug-125728 for a solution (must change toolchain.eclass in an
 overlay) and rebuild GCC *or* just manually fix/change broken .la files.
 ...SKIP...

Can you explain a little more about the manual fix...?
In the bug reports one poster mentions setting a symlink but doesn't
spell out the details.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: revdep-rebuild madness.

2006-06-16 Thread znx

On 16/06/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] sys-devel/gcc-4.1.1  USE=fortran gcj gtk nls objc \
 -bootstrap -build -doc -hardened -ip28 -ip32r10k -mudflap \
 -multislot -nocxx -objc++ -objc-gc -vanilla 0 kB


You have gcj in there .. thats the Java .. USE=-gcj .. check out
the bug page:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125728

Thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] equery problem.

2006-06-16 Thread Paul Varner
On Thu, 2006-06-15 at 21:45 -0400, David Corbin wrote:
 I'm trying to upgrade my KDE stuff following the information on this wiki 
 page.
 
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Update_KDE_3.3_to_KDE_3.4
 
 When I run equery d kde as it suggests, I get:
 
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/bin/equery, line 1639, in ?
 cmd.perform(local_opts)
   File /usr/bin/equery, line 1058, in perform
 deps = pkg.get_runtime_deps() + pkg.get_compiletime_deps() + 
 pkg.get_postmerge_deps()
 AttributeError: Package instance has no attribute 'get_postmerge_deps'

Update gentoolkit to gentoolkit-0.2.2

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: revdep-rebuild madness.

2006-06-16 Thread Devon Miller
You need USE=-gcjOn 6/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 write [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: using revdep-rebuild it finds: Hi, Bug-125728, *or* disable java USE flag for GCC. Rumen
Thanks... and I'm probably mis-understanding something here but Idon't see `java' as a USE flag that gcc knows anything about: emerge -vp gccThese are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done![ebuild R ] sys-devel/gcc-4.1.1USE=fortran gcj gtk nls objc \ -bootstrap -build -doc -hardened -ip28 -ip32r10k -mudflap -multislot-nocxx -objc++ -objc-gc -vanilla 0 kB
-java shows the same thing:root # USE=-java emerge -vp gccThese are the packages that would be merged, in order:Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild R ] sys-devel/gcc-4.1.1USE=fortran gcj gtk nls objc \ -bootstrap -build -doc -hardened -ip28 -ip32r10k -mudflap \ -multislot -nocxx -objc++ -objc-gc -vanilla 0 kB--
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[gentoo-user] Re: revdep-rebuild madness.

2006-06-16 Thread Sven Köhler
 Thanks... and I'm probably mis-understanding something here but I
 don't see `java' as a USE flag that gcc knows anything about:
 
  emerge -vp gcc
 
 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild   R   ] sys-devel/gcc-4.1.1  USE=fortran gcj gtk nls objc \
  -bootstrap -build -doc -hardened -ip28 -ip32r10k -mudflap -multislot
   -nocxx -objc++ -objc-gc -vanilla 0 kB 
 

try USE=-gcj



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: revdep-rebuild madness.

2006-06-16 Thread Rumen Yotov
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] write [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 using revdep-rebuild it finds:
  
 Hi,
 Bug-125728, *or* disable java USE flag for GCC.
 Rumen
 
 Thanks... and I'm probably mis-understanding something here but I
 don't see `java' as a USE flag that gcc knows anything about:
 
  emerge -vp gcc
 
 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild   R   ] sys-devel/gcc-4.1.1  USE=fortran gcj gtk nls objc \
  -bootstrap -build -doc -hardened -ip28 -ip32r10k -mudflap -multislot
   -nocxx -objc++ -objc-gc -vanilla 0 kB 
 
 
 -java shows the same thing:
 
 
 root # USE=-java emerge -vp gcc
 
 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild   R   ] sys-devel/gcc-4.1.1  USE=fortran gcj gtk nls objc \
  -bootstrap -build -doc -hardened -ip28 -ip32r10k -mudflap \
  -multislot -nocxx -objc++ -objc-gc -vanilla 0 kB 
 
Hi,
Sorry didn't checked before answering, it's gcj:
gcj - Enable building with gcj (The GNU Compiler for the Javatm
Programming Language)
Meant 'java support for gcc'.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slow redraw of windows following -uD --world

2006-06-16 Thread Rumen Yotov
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Check Bug-125728 for a solution (must change toolchain.eclass in an
 overlay) and rebuild GCC *or* just manually fix/change broken .la files.
 ...SKIP...
 
 Can you explain a little more about the manual fix...?
 In the bug reports one poster mentions setting a symlink but doesn't
 spell out the details.
 
Hi again,
Don't have your original mail (with error messages) but shortly:
Open the 'broken' *.la file/s and find the place where the broken paths
are (IIRC it's /usr/lib/... instead of /usr/lib/../../../..).
One solution is to manually edit the 'broken' *.la files putting the
right paths *or* IMHO create a link with the short-path name pointing to
the correct one. Sorry if this is too vague. Used the first method.
PS: could use 'qlist' or 'equery' with 'grep' to find the right paths.
Rumen


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[gentoo-user] Gentoo UK 2006 Conference: London, July 8th

2006-06-16 Thread Daniel Drake

Hi,

A quick note for those who have not heard about it already:

We are hosting a users-and-developers conference in Central London on 
July 8th. Anyone interested in Gentoo is welcome to attend.


The day will consist of presentations and sessions run by Gentoo 
developers, plus one or two from external speakers. There will be plenty 
of opportunity for socialising with other users and developers before 
and after the event.


For more info, see the event website:
http://dev.gentoo.org/~dsd/gentoo-uk-2006/

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[gentoo-user] Apache2 generating secret takes a long time

2006-06-16 Thread Grant

Apache2 used to stop and start for me very quickly, but in the last
few days I've noticed it takes a very long time to start.  It seems to
be hanging on:

Digest: generating secret for digest authentication ...

although it does eventually move on and everything works fine.  Does
anyone know why this might have changed?  I update all packages on my
system daily so there may have been a package change that did it.
Here are all packages listed in /var/log/portage this month:

mysql
cscope
vixie-cron
jpeg
pax-utils
postfix
ssmtp
gmp
pycrypto
portage
gentoolkit
ncurses

Any ideas?

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc-4.1.1

2006-06-16 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse

Bob Young wrote:

Depends on what you consider sufficient. Although what the page recommends
was misquoted, it actually suggests:

emerge -e system
emerge -e system
emerge -e world
emerge -e world

That's probably is a little bit excessive, but the reason for doing the two
emerge -e systems is so that the new tool chain is built with the new tool
chain. At the end of the first emerge -e system you may have a new compiler,
but that new compiler was built with the old compiler. What you actually
want is a gcc-4.1.1 that was built with gcc-4.1.1. You could emerge the
compiler twice before doing the emerge -e system, but the the emerges that
happen before glibc is rebuilt are linked against a glibc that was built
with the old compiler. Same with the rest of the tool chain and libraries.

  
Hmm ... unless the build of gcc has changed over the years, it used to 
build the compiler as a bootstrap and then use new compiler (xgcc) to 
build the final compiler for install (gcc).  Thus, the standard make 
script already builds the compiler twice.  I don't know that a compiler 
rebuild is really necessary when binutils is updated.





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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc-4.1.1

2006-06-16 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse

Bob Young wrote:
  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Richard Fish
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 9:24 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gcc-4.1.1


On 6/7/06, Bob Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


chain. At the end of the first emerge -e system you may have a
  

new compiler,


but that new compiler was built with the old compiler.
  

This is false.  Gcc uses itself to build itself.  It uses the system
compiler to build an initial version of itself, and then uses that
version to build itself.  And then for good measure, it uses that
version to build the final version.  It's called a 3-stage bootstrap,
and is documented in the file INSTALL/build.html in the gcc sources.
You can also look at /usr/portage/eclass/toolchain.eclass to determine
that Gentoo uses the bootstrap-lean target by default.



No, sorry that's just wrong. gcc is slotted, if the above were true there
would be no need for gcc-config in order to select a default compiler. When
a new compiler is emerged, it does *not* automatically become the default
system compiler, it must be selected, and that can only happen after it has
successfully been emerged. The first time a new gcc compiler is emerged, it
is indeed built with the previous version of the compiler that is currently
istalled as the system default.
  
xgcc is built with the previous system compiler.  Then xgcc is used to 
build the new gcc for installation.  The final install is a self-built 
gcc and is not built by the previous system compiler.


  

Frankly, anybody who claims that gcc needs to be merged twice so it
can be built with itself and produce better object code does not have
a clue what they are talking about and you should simply disregard
anything else they have to say about what is necessary/useful when
upgrading gcc.



It does have to be emerged twice in order for it to be built with itself,
anybody who thinks otherwise doesn't understand the basic principles of
compiling and linking.
  

I think you have ignored what the previous poster suggested.
  

happen before glibc is rebuilt are linked against a glibc that was built
with the old compiler.
  

And guess what difference this makes to the end result.  None.
Nada.  Nothing.

Because for basically every program on your system, they are
*dynamically linked* against glibc.



Are you absolutely 100% sure that every single system utility and
application is *dynamically* linked, and that no apps or utilities anywhere
in the system specifies *static* linking?

  

There are a few statically linked programs that will include glibc
internally.  These are used only for system recovery purposes...there
is no need to worry about them at all.



Really, so people who intentionally and specifically want to upgrade
absolutely *everything* should not worry about what gets left out because
Richard says it's unimportant?

The issue is about upgrading gcc and even the gcc upgrade howto recommends
an emerge -e world. It's clear that gcc it self at least has to be emerged
twice in order to build the new gcc *with* the new gcc. 
Wrong.  The gcc package builds a bootstrap compiler (the new version), 
called xgcc and then it uses that to build [after some tests] the final 
installed gcc.  A single emerge of gcc will create a compiler that was 
built by itself.


Thus, if you move from 3.3.4 to 4.1.0:

emerge -u gcc

You WILL have a gcc that was compiled by a 4.1.0 compiler.


Whether this is
strictly necessary or not is certaintly debatable, but since it executes
fairly quickly, and seems a prudent step, I'd argue that it's a reasonable
course. Of course a selecting the new gcc as the default with gcc-config is
also required in between, but that's self evident. Adding gcc-config, glibc,
binutils, libstdc++-v3, quickly covers the most important parts of the basic
tool chain, and covers most utilities or apps that might specify static
linking, and executes much much faster than an emerge -e system.

  

There is no value to having glibc or libstdc++-v3 in the first line.
There is no value at all to doing that twice.



Twice is the only way to build the new gcc *with* the new gcc. I should have
added the gcc-config select command in between, but I thought that was
pretty clearly necessary.

  
You didn't pay attention to what he wrote.  I hope perhaps my post made 
it more clear.


Tom Veldhouse


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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache2 generating secret takes a long time

2006-06-16 Thread Bryan Ãstergaard
On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 10:02:09AM -0700, Grant wrote:
 Apache2 used to stop and start for me very quickly, but in the last
 few days I've noticed it takes a very long time to start.  It seems to
 be hanging on:
 
 Digest: generating secret for digest authentication ...
 
 although it does eventually move on and everything works fine.  Does
 anyone know why this might have changed?  I update all packages on my
 system daily so there may have been a package change that did it.

You're running out of entropy so apache is waiting on /dev/random to
gain more entropy.

There's several different ways to fix this including:

1. Use a hardware RNG (random number generator), some chipsets provide
that but you need to enable support in the kernel.
2. emerge apr with USE=urandom. This makes apr use /dev/urandom instead
of /dev/random. urandom isn't as strong cryptographically speaking as
random but might be good enough for your use.
3. Disable digest authentication in the apache configuration.
4. Use some entropy gathering daemon like sys-apps/clrngd,
media-sound/sound-entropyd or media-video/video-entropyd.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Bryan Østergaard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache2 generating secret takes a long time

2006-06-16 Thread Grant

 Apache2 used to stop and start for me very quickly, but in the last
 few days I've noticed it takes a very long time to start.  It seems to
 be hanging on:

 Digest: generating secret for digest authentication ...

 although it does eventually move on and everything works fine.  Does
 anyone know why this might have changed?  I update all packages on my
 system daily so there may have been a package change that did it.

You're running out of entropy so apache is waiting on /dev/random to
gain more entropy.

There's several different ways to fix this including:

1. Use a hardware RNG (random number generator), some chipsets provide
that but you need to enable support in the kernel.
2. emerge apr with USE=urandom. This makes apr use /dev/urandom instead
of /dev/random. urandom isn't as strong cryptographically speaking as
random but might be good enough for your use.
3. Disable digest authentication in the apache configuration.
4. Use some entropy gathering daemon like sys-apps/clrngd,
media-sound/sound-entropyd or media-video/video-entropyd.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Bryan Østergaard


Very nice.  Thanks Bryan.

- Grant

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RE: [gentoo-user] gcc-4.1.1

2006-06-16 Thread Bob Young


 -Original Message-
 From: Thomas T. Veldhouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:25 AM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gcc-4.1.1

 You didn't pay attention to what he wrote.  I hope perhaps my post made
 it more clear.

 Tom Veldhouse

The only thing your post made clear is that you don't bother to read all of
a thread before replying to it. Maybe this will help:


The following reply was sent by me on Thur 6/8/2006 7:57 AM
*


 -Original Message-
 From: Bo Ørsted Andresen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 7:29 AM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gcc-4.1.1


 Thursday 08 June 2006 16:00 skrev Bob Young:
  Show me some documentation for this staging you refer to.

 If you unpack the gcc sources you will find it in
 gcc-*/INSTALL/build.html as
 already mentioned by Richard. But you can also see it at [1].

 [1] http://gcc.gnu.org/install/build.html


Okay, I stand corrected.

Regards,
Bob Young

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge wxGTK with gtk2 in your USE

2006-06-16 Thread michael higgins
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 07:49:41 +0300
Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 michael higgins wrote:
  Hello, all.
  
  When updating my world, I come across this error when upgrading Audacity:
  
  
  !!! set-wxconfig: Error:  Can't find normal or debug version:
  !!! set-wxconfig: /usr/lib/wx/config/gtk2-ansi-release-2.6 not found
  !!! set-wxconfig: /usr/lib/wx/config/gtk2-ansi-debug-2.6 not found
  !!! You need to emerge wxGTK with gtk2 in your USE
  
  So, I:
  
  # emerge -pv wxGTK
  
  These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
  
  Calculating dependencies... done!
  [ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/wxGTK-2.6.2-r1  USE=gnome -X -debug -doc 
  -joystick -odbc -opengl -sdl -unicode 0 kB
  
  Total size of downloads: 0 kB
  
  Unfortunately, I don't see, simply, where that flag is available. What am I 
  missing?
  
  Thanks,
  
  


Thanks to everyone who replied... the answer, however is the 'X' use flag in 
wxGTK-2.6.3.2. I just happened to catch a note about it 

pkg_setup() {
if use X; then
einfo To install only wxbase (non-gui libs) use USE=-X
else
einfo To install GUI libraries, in addition to wxbase, use 
USE=X
fi
}

... when I re-emerged wxGTK as had been suggested. 


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[gentoo-user] Which TV card to take?

2006-06-16 Thread Nico Schümann

Hi folks,

I don't know which (DVB-S) TV card to take.
It shouldn't be too expensive and should work correctly with the 2.6
kernel (without patching, if possible).
I just want to watch TV with TV time.
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[gentoo-user] 64bit vs 32bit

2006-06-16 Thread Catalin Trifu
Hi,


I am planning to buy a new machine and lately I was thinking about
a AMD64 X2 4800+ 2GB RAM.
Is it worth to install 64bit linux or should I go for 32. As I have read
there are issues with video stuff, flash player.
This machine is for work and entertainment. I don't like the idea of a
32bit chroot if it's too much of a hassle to set it up.


Catalin

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Re: [gentoo-user] 64bit vs 32bit

2006-06-16 Thread Justin R Findlay
On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 10:15:09PM +0300, Catalin Trifu wrote:
 I am planning to buy a new machine and lately I was thinking about
 a AMD64 X2 4800+ 2GB RAM.
 Is it worth to install 64bit linux or should I go for 32. As I have read
 there are issues with video stuff, flash player.
 This machine is for work and entertainment. I don't like the idea of a
 32bit chroot if it's too much of a hassle to set it up.

The default amd64 profile includes multilib, so there are no worries
about 32 bit compatibility.  I run no multilibs on my machine and the
only difference I've noticed is that those annoying flash ads don't
work. (-:


Justin
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Re: [gentoo-user] 64bit vs 32bit

2006-06-16 Thread Lord Sauron

On 6/16/06, Catalin Trifu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,


I am planning to buy a new machine and lately I was thinking about
a AMD64 X2 4800+ 2GB RAM.
Is it worth to install 64bit linux or should I go for 32. As I have read
there are issues with video stuff, flash player.
This machine is for work and entertainment. I don't like the idea of a
32bit chroot if it's too much of a hassle to set it up.


Just from the technical side of things, AMD64 architecture is fully
compatible with 32-bit applications.  You can install a 32-bit app in
a 64-bit OS (but not the other way around : (

I'd suggest the amd64 OS, though if you can't decide, I'd just throw
in the towel and dual-boot.

Also, using a 64-bit app is only going to get you about a ten percent
performance increase, according to benchmarking studies of people with
more money than I have.  It's ultimately up to you, but if I were you,
I'd take the adventurous route and go 64-bit - just for the heck of
it.  However, I don't know enough about your wants and needs to be
able to reccommend something like that.

Do what you want: that's the entire point.  I can only supply
information, not make the choice for you (unless you'd like me to, but
I can't guarantee that I can help if something goes wrong).

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[gentoo-user] initramfs, network diskless boot, init process, problems with switchroot (pivot_root)

2006-06-16 Thread Claudinei Matos
Hi guys,I'm not sure if it's the best place to do this question but I hope somebody could help me...well, I'm trying to make such a network diskless boot script for a amd64 machine, the target of this project is to boot an amd64 machine via network and mount nfs share as the root filesystem.
I'd created an initramfs wich mount the nfs share and do the pivot_root (actually switch_root from busybox) but the problem is exactly at this moment, 'cause when I try to do the switch_root and start the real init from the nfs share, the system appears to freeze but after some seconds it do print a message Rebooting System and just reboot the machine.
I'd tried to reinstall sysvinit (even a static version) but the problem persists, I als tried to change the sysinit script on inittab but again the same problem and it feels like the script is not executed, so for a last try I did changed the init binary with a script that just call /bin/bash and for my surprise it did work, but none system process run course.
What I want to know is if is there a way to change this /sbin/rc sysinit from inittab to a custom script wich will do some configurations like create some directories, mount some systems and later start the normal process from default rc?
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[gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)

2006-06-16 Thread Allan Gottlieb
My kids have finally convinced me that instead of burning CDs to play
in the car I should get a portable MP3 player (and use my existing
adapter that plugs into the headphone and presents a cassette tape
to the car's audio system).

What players would you recommend.  My needs are modest, a few hours of
MP3s would be enough.  My primary goal is to listen to the teaching
company lectures.

Although I can reboot my laptop into windows (very useful for getting
dell service), I would probably stick to CDs if transferring MP3 to
the device requires windows.

thanks,
allan
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Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)

2006-06-16 Thread b.n.
Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 Although I can reboot my laptop into windows (very useful for getting
 dell service), I would probably stick to CDs if transferring MP3 to
 the device requires windows.

I think any pendrive-like mp3 player doesn't require windows. It just
behaves as a flash USB pendrive, but plays audio files that are in it.
Mine works perfectly :) .

Also if you stick with an ipod, there should be linux sw able to
interface with it (gtkpod I guess).

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[gentoo-user] OT: Gentoo on an AMD 64bit portable

2006-06-16 Thread James
Hello,

I've seen snipits of various issues related to running gentoo on a 64 bit
amd processor. In particular, I'd like to get a 'low power'
chip such as the Turion in a portable. One of my concerns is whether to use
32 bit or 64 bit Gentoo on a 64 bit AMD portable. Is there
a document I can read somewhere that explains the merits
and problems on how to set up Gentoo on a 64 bit machine?
If not can somebody explain the caveats of 64 bit (amd) gentoo?
I do not wish to be on the 'bleeding edge' of 64 bit AMD issues,
but, I'd like to access the power. I'm running a variety of
32 bit stable gentoo systems now, with relative ease.


Another problem I run into is that I must have a 9 pin serial port
(you know with a 16x50+ chip). I use my portables to talk to 
a wide variety of industrial equipment that all use standard 9 pin
serial ports. I know that there are pci cards to give mult serial ports
and usb-serial converter devices, but I have never used any of them
so I need recommendations on alternative serial (rs232C) hardware.

This limits me pretty much to Clevo based portables, unless
somebody else can point me to a 64 bit AMD portable with
9 pin serials ports, or a hardware alternative that is robust.


Any information/recommendations on 64 bit amd portables in most
welcome.

James



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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Gentoo on an AMD 64bit portable

2006-06-16 Thread James Ausmus

On 6/16/06, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

I've seen snipits of various issues related to running gentoo on a 64 bit
amd processor. In particular, I'd like to get a 'low power'
chip such as the Turion in a portable. One of my concerns is whether to use
32 bit or 64 bit Gentoo on a 64 bit AMD portable. Is there
a document I can read somewhere that explains the merits
and problems on how to set up Gentoo on a 64 bit machine?
If not can somebody explain the caveats of 64 bit (amd) gentoo?
I do not wish to be on the 'bleeding edge' of 64 bit AMD issues,
but, I'd like to access the power. I'm running a variety of
32 bit stable gentoo systems now, with relative ease.


Another problem I run into is that I must have a 9 pin serial port
(you know with a 16x50+ chip). I use my portables to talk to
a wide variety of industrial equipment that all use standard 9 pin
serial ports. I know that there are pci cards to give mult serial ports
and usb-serial converter devices, but I have never used any of them
so I need recommendations on alternative serial (rs232C) hardware.

This limits me pretty much to Clevo based portables, unless
somebody else can point me to a 64 bit AMD portable with
9 pin serials ports, or a hardware alternative that is robust.


Any information/recommendations on 64 bit amd portables in most
welcome.



I've been *extremely* happy with my xtremenotebooks.com system - it's
based on a Clevo (as is the Alienware equivalent), and it was about a
$1000 cheaper than the Alienware equivalent. I went with the desktop
replacement strategy - AMD 64X2 4400+, GeForce 7800 Go GTX, etc - but
xtremenotebooks.com also has Turion64-based systems for the more
mobility minded - i.e. those that don't want to lug around a 14 lb
portable. ;)

I've been running full 64-bit on the system, and it's been *really*
straightforward - I haven't found a *single* show-stopper (now that
the RaLink rt2500 wireless driver is SMP-compatible, that is) - the
only real minor annoyances I've had are that Flash won't work in the
64-bit (i.e. self-compiled) Firefox - darn, I sure miss all those
Punch the Monkey and win an iPod! ads (however, I'm told this can be
gotten around via either some clever 32-bit Flash plugin + 64-bit
Konqueror sleight of hand, or by using the 32-bit firefox-bin instead
of the self-compiled), and the fact that, oddly enough, win32codecs
don't want to work in a 64-bit system either (which can be gotten
around via the mplayer-bin package - another pre-compiled 32-bit
version).

And, of course, the most important thing - I can't stop just wallowing
gleefully in my friends and relatives envious looks when I walk up
with a laptop that is more powerful than their most powerful gaming
and server systems... :)  (With only *slightly* less battery life than
a good desktop with no UPS... grin (Actually, I can get about 2
hours if I'm careful)).

The ACPI functionality all seems to work quite well, saving
suspend/hibernate, which I haven't really pursued due to my usage of
the proprietary NVidia drivers + the fact that the rt2500 driver
doesn't seem to play well with power management, but I would bet that
if you unloaded both those modules and did a suspend or a hibernate,
it would go well for you.

So, overall, as far as Gentoo + AMD64 goes, my experience has pretty
much been no different than Gentoo + x86 - a good one!

HTH-

James



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Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)

2006-06-16 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Fri, 16 Jun 2006 22:28:19 + b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 Although I can reboot my laptop into windows (very useful for getting
 dell service), I would probably stick to CDs if transferring MP3 to
 the device requires windows.

 I think any pendrive-like mp3 player doesn't require windows. It just
 behaves as a flash USB pendrive, but plays audio files that are in it.
 Mine works perfectly :) .

So the typical 1/4-1 gig or so flash mp3 players (e.g. creative's zen
nano plus) will all work?  Could I ask what model you have?

 Also if you stick with an ipod, there should be linux sw able to
 interface with it (gtkpod I guess).

I prefer your first option.

thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slow redraw of windows following -uD --world

2006-06-16 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 16 June 2006 16:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 About checking glx.  I'm not sure what you meant there...  I guess
 nvidia-glx and atis-glx are modules?... Modprobe knows nothing about
 them here. /usr/src/linux/.config shows one setting related to nvidia:
 CONFIG_AGP_NVIDIA=m.
 Can you explain a little more what you mean there?

 I have an MSI FX5700LE-TD256 vid card.  But prior to this upgrade I
 had good redraw / scroll speeds.

 No amd64... its Celeron MSI 865PE mobo. about overheat: I see the
 redraw problem right at boot too before overheating would have happened.

since rumen answered the gcc problem
(I would backup the la files and remove then, than rebuild gcc. AFAIK they are 
not needed anymore and leftovers), I try to answer your opengl question.

No, nvidia-glx is NOT the kernel module. That is nvidia-kernel!

You don't have the latest nvidia drivers installed?

That might be the culprit!

emerge nvidia-kernel
emergen nvidia-glx
eselect opengl set nvidia (or opengl-update nvidia)
change 'nv' in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to nvidia

restart X.

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Re: [gentoo-user] 64bit vs 32bit

2006-06-16 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 16 June 2006 21:15, Catalin Trifu wrote:
   Hi,


 I am planning to buy a new machine and lately I was thinking about
 a AMD64 X2 4800+ 2GB RAM.
 Is it worth to install 64bit linux or should I go for 32. As I have
 read there are issues with video stuff, flash player.
 This machine is for work and entertainment. I don't like the idea of a
 32bit chroot if it's too much of a hassle to set it up.


you don't need a chroot.

Just emerge firefox-bin for flash
and
mplayer-bin for wmv files.

Everything else does not make problems. 
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Re: [gentoo-user] xine compile failed

2006-06-16 Thread Richard Watson
Hi ... I've got exactly the same problem with after syncing. I've tried 
resyncing a few times. Any help would be great. Thanks, Richard.


My output is:
===
cc1: error: unrecognized option `-fvisibility=hidden'

make[3]: *** [xineplug_ao_out_none_la-audio_none_out.lo] Error 1

make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9/work/xine-lib-1.1.2cvs/src/audio_out'


make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9/work/xine-lib-1.1.2cvs/src'


make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9/work/xine-lib-1.1.2cvs'


make: *** [all] Error 2

!!! ERROR: media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9 failed.

Call stack:

ebuild.sh, line 1539: Called dyn_compile

ebuild.sh, line 939: Called src_compile

xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9.ebuild, line 235: Called die

== emerge --info output ==

Portage 2.1 (default-linux/x86/2006.0, gcc-3.3.6, glibc-2.3.6-r3, 
2.6.16-gentoo-r7 i686)


=

System uname: 2.6.16-gentoo-r7 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.70GHz

Gentoo Base System version 1.6.14

distcc 2.18.3 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port 3632) 
[disabled]


dev-lang/python: 2.3.5-r2, 2.4.2

dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5

dev-util/ccache: [Not Present]

dev-util/confcache: [Not Present]

sys-apps/sandbox: 1.2.17

sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.59-r7

sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r1

sys-devel/binutils: 2.16.1-r2

sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.13-r2

sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.22

virtual/os-headers: 2.6.11-r2

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86

AUTOCLEAN=yes

CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu

CFLAGS=-march=pentium4 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer

CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu

CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/3.4/env /usr/kde/3.4/share/config 
/usr/kde/3.4/shutdown /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config 
/usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/lib/mozilla/defaults/pref 
/usr/share/config


CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/env.d /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild 
/etc/terminfo


CXXFLAGS=-march=pentium4 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer

DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles

FEATURES=autoconfig distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict

GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://gentoo.osuosl.org/ http://adelie.polymtl.ca/ 
ftp://cs.ubishops.ca/pub/gentoo ftp://gentoo.risq.qc.ca/ 
http://gentoo.chem.wisc.edu/gentoo/ ftp://gentoo.chem.wisc.edu/gentoo/ 
http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/gentoo/ ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/gentoo/ 
http://gentoo.blueyonder.co.uk ftp://mirrors.blueyonder.co.uk/mirrors/gentoo 
http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.ibiblio.org/gentoo/ 
ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.ibiblio.org/gentoo/ 
ftp://public.planetmirror.com/pub/gentoo/ 
ftp://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/Gentoo 
http://mirror.isp.net.au/pub/gentoo/ ftp://mirror.isp.net.au/pub/gentoo/ 
http://mirror.gentoo.gr.jp http://gentoo.gg3.net/ 
http://gentoo.channelx.biz/ ftp://mirror.averse.net/pub/gentoo 
http://mirror.averse.net/pub/gentoo/;


MAKEOPTS=-j2

PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages

PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress 
--force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude='/distfiles' 
--exclude='/local' --exclude='/packages'


PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp

PORTDIR=/usr/portage

SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage

USE=X a52 aac aalib alsa apache2 apm arts audiofile avi bash-completion 
berkdb bitmap-fonts bonobo bzip2 cdparanoia cdr cli crypt cups dbm div4linux 
dri dv dvb dvd dvdr dvdread eds emboss encode esd examples exif fbcon fdftk 
ffmpeg flash foomaticdb fortran ftp gb gd gdbm gif gnome gphoto2 gpm 
gstreamer gtk gtk2 gtkhtml hal howl ieee1394 imlib ipv6 isdnlog jack 
joystick jpeg kde libg++ libwww mad matrox mikmod mime ming motif mozilla 
mp3 mpeg msn mysql mysqli nas ncurses nls nocd nptl ogg oggvorbis openal 
opengl osc oss pam pcre pdflib perl png portaudio ppds pppd python qt 
quicktime readline reflection samba sdl session slp sox speex spell spl szip 
tcpd tetex tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts udev usb v4l vcd videos 
vorbis win32codecs x86 xine xinerama xml xmms xorg xv xvid yahoo zlib 
elibc_glibc kernel_linux userland_GNU


Unset: CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, 
LINGUAS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY


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[gentoo-user] Re: OT: Gentoo on an AMD 64bit portable

2006-06-16 Thread James
James Ausmus james.ausmus at gmail.com writes:


  Any information/recommendations on 64 bit amd portables in most
  welcome.

 I've been *extremely* happy with my xtremenotebooks.com system - it's
 based on a Clevo (as is the Alienware equivalent), and it was about a
 $1000 cheaper than the Alienware equivalent. 

Can you send me the exact model and options, and the price you paid?
Which model clevo is it based on, D900K? Any specifics you want to share
with me publically or privately, would be wonderful.

http://www.pro-star.com/index.cfm?mainpage=productdetailmodel=5988

The aforemention url is a prostar based on the latest Clevo. How does
it compare to your portable (price/features).



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Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)

2006-06-16 Thread b.n.

 So the typical 1/4-1 gig or so flash mp3 players (e.g. creative's zen
 nano plus) will all work?  Could I ask what model you have?

I don't even remember, it is a cheap 256-mb mp3 player my collegues gave
me for my degree a couple of years ago. Now it's in my lab, so I can't
tell you.

Anyway, since you want to interface it with your portable, why don't you
bring your portable in the shop and ask to try it with your portable?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Gentoo on an AMD 64bit portable

2006-06-16 Thread James Ausmus

On 6/16/06, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

James Ausmus james.ausmus at gmail.com writes:


  Any information/recommendations on 64 bit amd portables in most
  welcome.

 I've been *extremely* happy with my xtremenotebooks.com system - it's
 based on a Clevo (as is the Alienware equivalent), and it was about a
 $1000 cheaper than the Alienware equivalent.

Can you send me the exact model and options, and the price you paid?
Which model clevo is it based on, D900K? Any specifics you want to share
with me publically or privately, would be wonderful.

http://www.pro-star.com/index.cfm?mainpage=productdetailmodel=5988

The aforemention url is a prostar based on the latest Clevo. How does
it compare to your portable (price/features).


http://www.xtremenotebooks.com/index.php?section=specsmodel_id=1077

Same system as your link, ~$200 cheaper - no OS. :)

My specific laptop is the Nova 906V -
http://www.xtremenotebooks.com/index.php?section=catagoryinclude_type=14_inch
(First one on the page)

There are a couple of key differences - Turion64 vs. Athlon 64X2, Dual
7800's vs. single 7800, 19 vs. 17 are the key ones that I see.

After customization, I ended up paying about $3500 for mine, but the
prices have a dropped $100-200 since I bought mine.


OK, exact model  options on mine-

FUSION base system

1920x1200 screen w/ 3-year Accident Protection warranty
nVidia GeForce 7800 Go GTX w/ 256MB Memory (didn't release the 7900
until a few weeks after I'd bought mine... bummer... :(   )
Athlon 64X2 4400+ CPU (Lowest one that had a full 1MB cache per core)
1GB Ram
80GB SATA-150 5400 RPM drive
No 2nd HDD
Base CD/RW + DVD Drive
No 2nd Optical drive
XP Pro SP2 (I dual-boot - do some Windows development in my job, plus
I enjoy gaming...)
3-year Xtreme Warranty (don't remember if I got on-site or mail-in -
probably mail-in)
EZLock (EZ-90)

All that + shipping ran me about $3500 - looks like it's down to about
$3100 + shipping these days...


HTH-

James





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[gentoo-user] Video conversion

2006-06-16 Thread JimD

Does anyone know of a good guide for converting an xvid to DVD under Gentoo?
I have previously ripped a few of my kids Disney movies.  Now one is broke so
I want to burn from the backup.

Thanks for any help,

JimD
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Re: [gentoo-user] Video conversion

2006-06-16 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 21:58 +, JimD wrote:
 Does anyone know of a good guide for converting an xvid to DVD under Gentoo?
 I have previously ripped a few of my kids Disney movies.  Now one is broke so
 I want to burn from the backup.
 
 Thanks for any help,
 
 JimD

Try these. Should be a simple --target DVD 

*  media-video/tovid [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.22
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 104 kB
  Homepage:http://tovid.sourceforge.net/
  Description: Video conversion and DVD authoring tools
  License: GPL-2

*  media-video/tovid-gui [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.22
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 129 kB
  Homepage:http://tovid.sourceforge.net/
  Description: Video conversion and DVD authoring tools
  License: GPL-2

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Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)

2006-06-16 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Fri, 16 Jun 2006 23:20:01 + b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyway, since you want to interface it with your portable, why don't you
 bring your portable in the shop and ask to try it with your portable?

A great idea.  I will ask that they let me open the box and try it.

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[gentoo-user] [VERY OT] Vmware and Ctrl-E (power Off)

2006-06-16 Thread Ow Mun Heng
I'm getting really frustrated. (googling didn't help cos not sure what
to input as search string)

Under Vmware, the CTRL-E key means Power OFF and during my virtual
session, one of the apps I'm using uses Ctrl-E as an Start execution
shortcut. 
Unfortunately, if I were to move the mouse _out_ of the vmware focus
area, then the whole virtual term shuts down.

I believe there is a Do you really want to shut down diaglog box
somewhere.

Can anyone let me know where that is??

(Frustrating to lose work in the middle of something. This is like the
5th time already I'm restarting and picking up the unsaved pieces)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Video conversion

2006-06-16 Thread JimD

On 6/16/06, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 21:58 +, JimD wrote:
 Does anyone know of a good guide for converting an xvid to DVD under Gentoo?
 I have previously ripped a few of my kids Disney movies.  Now one is broke so
 I want to burn from the backup.

 Thanks for any help,

 JimD

Try these. Should be a simple --target DVD

*  media-video/tovid [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.22
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 104 kB
  Homepage:http://tovid.sourceforge.net/
  Description: Video conversion and DVD authoring tools
  License: GPL-2

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Thanks, I will give them a whirl.  The last time I needed to convert a
divx/xivd to DVD (many moons ago) I used transcode and a bunch of
other tools.  It was a mess :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)

2006-06-16 Thread Christoph Eckert

 What players would you recommend.  My needs are modest, a few hours
 of MP3s would be enough.  My primary goal is to listen to the
 teaching company lectures.

most devices which have as a requirement Mac OS 8.6 or better simoky 
behave as a USB mass storage and therefore can be mounted on Linux. If 
you read Driver for Win 98 included or ...downloadable from web 
page, you can be 99% sure it is class compliant.

As you are on Linux, I'd like to recommend a device which also supports 
ogg, like some Samsung and TrekStor devices do. I also enjoy to have an 
FM receiver built in. Foldernavigation is a plus.

I just purchased an TrekStor iBeat organix FM @ 1GB. It's not a cheap 
device, but I took my notebook to the store, mounted it, copied an ogg 
and it worked, so the decicion was made. And I was sure that the day 
will arrive when I want to use it to port an ISO image of 800MB, so 
avoid 512MB devices :) .


Best regards,


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Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)

2006-06-16 Thread Alan
On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 04:51:31PM -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 At Fri, 16 Jun 2006 22:28:19 + b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Allan Gottlieb wrote:
  Although I can reboot my laptop into windows (very useful for getting
  dell service), I would probably stick to CDs if transferring MP3 to
  the device requires windows.
 
  I think any pendrive-like mp3 player doesn't require windows. It just
  behaves as a flash USB pendrive, but plays audio files that are in it.
  Mine works perfectly :) .
 
 So the typical 1/4-1 gig or so flash mp3 players (e.g. creative's zen
 nano plus) will all work?  Could I ask what model you have?
 
  Also if you stick with an ipod, there should be linux sw able to
  interface with it (gtkpod I guess).
 
 I prefer your first option.

Both banshee and rhythmbox support mostly or will soon support fully the
ipod :)

alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] Video conversion

2006-06-16 Thread Ow Mun Heng
 Thanks, I will give them a whirl.  The last time I needed to convert a
 divx/xivd to DVD (many moons ago) I used transcode and a bunch of
 other tools.  It was a mess :-)

http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Making_a_basic_DVD

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Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)

2006-06-16 Thread Christoph Eckert

 Both banshee and rhythmbox support mostly or will soon support fully
 the ipod :)

Apple hard and software players don't support ogg vorbis,
and that's why Apple simply sucks. Sorry, I'm usually not a guy of harsh 
words, but take care about teh file formats you use. Will you be able 
to playback your music bought in the Apple shop if they decide to 
discontinue their audio hard- and software?


Best regards


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Re: [gentoo-user] Video conversion

2006-06-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:22:12 -0700, Ow Mun Heng wrote:

 *  media-video/tovid

I'll vote for this one too. It converts just about anything to DVD,
without a bazillion cryptic options.


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Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)

2006-06-16 Thread Alan
On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 01:04:37AM +0200, Christoph Eckert wrote:
 
  Both banshee and rhythmbox support mostly or will soon support fully
  the ipod :)
 
 Apple hard and software players don't support ogg vorbis,
 and that's why Apple simply sucks. Sorry, I'm usually not a guy of harsh 
 words, but take care about teh file formats you use. Will you be able 
 to playback your music bought in the Apple shop if they decide to 
 discontinue their audio hard- and software?

I don't have an ipod so I have no experience, but there is a 3rd party
firmware hack that replaces the ipod firmware and supports flac/ogg/etc
and adds nifty things.

That said, everything I have is mp3 or flac transcoded to mp3 for
playback on my crappy old rio cali :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)

2006-06-16 Thread Samuel Baldwin
I'm positive that AmaroK supports iPod's fully.I am, myself, (sounds a little redundant doesn't it?) getting an iRiver soon, and not sure if any media players will support that...Anyone know if iRiver's support ogg? I use that exclusively and transcoding everything to mp3 would not be pleasant.
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Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)

2006-06-16 Thread Christoph Eckert

 I don't have an ipod so I have no experience, but there is a 3rd
 party firmware hack that replaces the ipod firmware and supports
 flac/ogg/etc and adds nifty things.

interesting. I'm not computer scientist, but doesn't this depend on the 
hardware chip in the device? Decoding ogg or even mp3 in software eats 
CPU and therefor battery life.

 That said, everything I have is mp3 or flac transcoded to mp3 for
 playback on my crappy old rio cali :)

The reason I like ogg is not only that I have some free music and ripped 
CDs in ogg on my hard drive. My preferred broadcasting used real 
streams in the past, but meanwhile they have switched to ogg stream. If 
I record it for later consumption, I couldn't play it back with 
iTunes or one of the Apple hardware players.

I often use flac to save recordings losslessly (I'm a hobby musician), 
but later on I convert it to ogg to save disc space.


Best regards,


ce

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[gentoo-user] Re: Google Earth: Masked?

2006-06-16 Thread Mick
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Nick Rout wrote:

 bugger i didn't even know there was an ebuild, i simply downloaded and
 installed.

Yep, it works a treat (other than setting up email - it opens FF).  It is
masked because it is a new ebuild.  If no bugs are reported it'll become
stable within a month.

Any idea how to set it up to open Kmail?
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Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)

2006-06-16 Thread Christoph Eckert

 Anyone know if iRiver's support ogg?

depends on the actual device and firmware. For example, there was a 
firmware update for the iHP-100.

Best regards


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Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)

2006-06-16 Thread Allan Gottlieb
As the OP, let me thank all the responders for the helpful
comments/suggestions.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Slow redraw of windows following -uD --world

2006-06-16 Thread reader
Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 No, nvidia-glx is NOT the kernel module. That is nvidia-kernel!

 You don't have the latest nvidia drivers installed?

 That might be the culprit!

 emerge nvidia-kernel
 emergen nvidia-glx
 eselect opengl set nvidia (or opengl-update nvidia)
 change 'nv' in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to nvidia

OK this looks like a nice adventure but know one thing.  Before this
update I didn't have the nvidia-kernel either and redraw was fine.

So something else has happened ... eh?

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[gentoo-user] Re: Slow redraw of windows following -uD --world

2006-06-16 Thread reader
Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 emergen nvidia-glx

OOPS:
emerge -vp nvidia-glx

Calculating dependencies... done!

[blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99 
   (is blocking media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762)
 [ebuild  N] media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762  
USE=-dlloader 0 kB 


So nvidia-glx replaces xorg-server?

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Re: [gentoo-user] equery problem.

2006-06-16 Thread David Corbin
On Friday 16 June 2006 11:23 am, Paul Varner wrote:
 On Thu, 2006-06-15 at 21:45 -0400, David Corbin wrote:
  I'm trying to upgrade my KDE stuff following the information on this wiki
  page.
 
  http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Update_KDE_3.3_to_KDE_3.4
 
  When I run equery d kde as it suggests, I get:
 
  Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/bin/equery, line 1639, in ?
  cmd.perform(local_opts)
File /usr/bin/equery, line 1058, in perform
  deps = pkg.get_runtime_deps() + pkg.get_compiletime_deps() +
  pkg.get_postmerge_deps()
  AttributeError: Package instance has no attribute 'get_postmerge_deps'

 Update gentoolkit to gentoolkit-0.2.2


I am using 0.2.2


 Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)

2006-06-16 Thread Joerg Plate

 Anyone know if iRiver's support ogg?

My H340 supports ogg. It also works with Linux and OSX :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Using --deep [Was: Slow redraw of windows following -uD --world]

2006-06-16 Thread Vladimir G. Ivanovic
On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 15:01 +0200, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

 --deep is almost never needed. Some people love it and tell everybody to use 
 it. Usually people who are version number freaks. But in 90% it is useless to 
 harmfull.

Could you be more specific, please? How is it harmful? What happens to
your system when you use --deep? 

Why is it that despite --deep being recommended[1] and used (I assume)
by the majority of Gentoo users, I haven't heard of any ill effects of
using --deep? (You are the first and so far the only person to recommend
against it.)

I *always* use --deep when upgrading because then I am assured of
getting *all* of the dependencies of packages I am emerging. I am not
aware of *ever* having system problems due to using --deep. How do you
prevent packages from being installed that are missing dependencies?

Thanks.

--- Vladimir

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=1

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[gentoo-user] -fvisibility=hidden

2006-06-16 Thread David Corbin
while attempt to upgrade my system, I'm getting this failure.

 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../.. -I../../include 
-I../../include -I../../src -I../../src/xine-engine -I../../src/xine-engine 
-I../../src/xine-utils -I../../src/input -I../../src/input -I../../lib 
-DXINE_COMPILE -fvisibility=hidden -DNDEBUG -D_REENTRANT 
-D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DXINE_COMPILE -O2 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer 
-frename-registers -ffunction-sections -c audio_none_out.c  -fPIC -DPIC 
-o .libs/xineplug_ao_out_none_la-audio_none_out.o
cc1: error: unrecognized option `-fvisibility=hidden'
make[3]: *** [xineplug_ao_out_none_la-audio_none_out.lo] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9/work/xine-lib-1.1.2cvs/src/audio_out'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9/work/xine-lib-1.1.2cvs/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9/work/xine-lib-1.1.2cvs'
make: *** [all] Error 2

!!! ERROR: media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9 failed.
Call stack:
  ebuild.sh, line 1539:   Called dyn_compile
  ebuild.sh, line 939:   Called src_compile
  xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9.ebuild, line 235:   Called die

Any ideas for working around it?
David
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Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)

2006-06-16 Thread Samuel Baldwin
 My H340 supports ogg. It also works with Linux and OSX :)Thanks-- Samuel (shardz)Registered Linux User #410639
amarok.kde.orgusmc.mil


Re: [gentoo-user] -fvisibility=hidden

2006-06-16 Thread Jeremy Olexa
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David Corbin wrote:
 while attempt to upgrade my system, I'm getting this failure.
 
  i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../.. 
 -I../../include 
 -I../../include -I../../src -I../../src/xine-engine -I../../src/xine-engine 
 -I../../src/xine-utils -I../../src/input -I../../src/input -I../../lib 
 -DXINE_COMPILE -fvisibility=hidden -DNDEBUG -D_REENTRANT 
 -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DXINE_COMPILE -O2 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer 
 -frename-registers -ffunction-sections -c audio_none_out.c  -fPIC -DPIC 
 -o .libs/xineplug_ao_out_none_la-audio_none_out.o
 cc1: error: unrecognized option `-fvisibility=hidden'
 make[3]: *** [xineplug_ao_out_none_la-audio_none_out.lo] Error 1
 make[3]: Leaving directory 
 `/var/tmp/portage/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9/work/xine-lib-1.1.2cvs/src/audio_out'
 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[2]: Leaving directory 
 `/var/tmp/portage/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9/work/xine-lib-1.1.2cvs/src'
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory 
 `/var/tmp/portage/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9/work/xine-lib-1.1.2cvs'
 make: *** [all] Error 2
 
 !!! ERROR: media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9 failed.
 Call stack:
   ebuild.sh, line 1539:   Called dyn_compile
   ebuild.sh, line 939:   Called src_compile
   xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9.ebuild, line 235:   Called die
 
 Any ideas for working around it?
 David

There was just a thread about this issue this week..
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/163209/focus=163209 I
think the consensus was to upgrade gcc to the latest stable version. I
don't remember exactly though. HTH and please search next time. ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Video conversion

2006-06-16 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 15:22 -0700, Ow Mun Heng wrote:

 Try these. Should be a simple --target DVD 
 
 *  media-video/tovid [ Masked ]

It seems to be removed... or did you use an overlay?

$ emerge -S tovid
Searching...
[ Results for search key : tovid ]
[ Applications found : 0 ]

$ ls /usr/portage/media-video/tovid
ls: /usr/portage/media-video/tovid: No such file or directory

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[gentoo-user] Re: Using --deep

2006-06-16 Thread reader
Vladimir G. Ivanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 --deep is almost never needed. Some people love it and tell everybody to use 
 it. Usually people who are version number freaks. But in 90% it is useless 
 to 
 harmfull.

 Could you be more specific, please? How is it harmful? What happens to
 your system when you use --deep? 

 Why is it that despite --deep being recommended[1] and used (I assume)
 by the majority of Gentoo users, I haven't heard of any ill effects of
 using --deep? (You are the first and so far the only person to recommend
 against it.)

Being the thread owner so to speak, I'd like to ask something of you
here.  The converse of your question.  How is it good.  

Can't speak for Hermman of course but I think he was suggesting that
somewhere `Deep' in the dependancies of something things got tangled
up and caused something to bread that has bearing on my `slow redraw' 
problem ending up with a need to revdep-rebuild to find the problems.

I still haven't seen what is at the root of my redraw problem and
haven't really heard any advice about how to debug it further.

I would like to hear both sides of this since you both are obviously
quite knowledgale about how gentoo works

 I *always* use --deep when upgrading because then I am assured of
 getting *all* of the dependencies of packages I am emerging. I am not
 aware of *ever* having system problems due to using --deep. How do you
 prevent packages from being installed that are missing dependencies?

I have been using --deep as a matter of course when upgrading and I
can say I have had system problems *absolutely every time* I've
upgraded.  And (Embarrassing given the sad state of my skill level)
but I've been running gentoo for something like 2 or more years .  

I don't know if the problems I've had are attributable to --deep in
any way, but I can say its likey to be at least in part due to ill
informed bumbling on my part.

The problems haven't always been big ones but there have always been
some requiring me to post here for advice.  Many were about the
tangled web of kde dependancies.

How would you recognize that a system problem was or was not
attributable to `--deep'?  Also isn't emerge supposed to find
dependancies as a default behavior?

In particular how can we determine what is wrong in my system causing
the slow redrawing of windows and slow scrolling.  Its getting
annoying enough that I'm thinkin about trashing this install and going
back to a stage install from snapshots and see if I still get this
slow redraw.

The revdep-rebuild that Hermman suggested did find problems with gcc
that I fixed by re emerging  it with USE=-gcj.  But apparently this
is not related to `slow redraw'.

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[gentoo-user] remove xorg-server to emerge nvidia-glx =Normal?

2006-06-16 Thread reader
Sorry to break out of the thread where this is being discussed but I
got part way thru some instructions about getting nvidia-glx setup and
saw something that looks like it might throw a monkey wrench into
things.

I've emerged nvidia-kernel without problems.
The next step is where I see this:

root # emerge -vp nvidia-glx

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
  [blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99 
  (is blocking media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762)
  [ebuild  N] media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762
  USE=-dlloader 0 kB 

Is this normal... is nvidia-glx a replacement to xorg-server?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Video conversion

2006-06-16 Thread Nick Rout
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 11:24:09 +0800
Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 15:22 -0700, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 
  Try these. Should be a simple --target DVD 
  
  *  media-video/tovid [ Masked ]
 
 It seems to be removed... or did you use an overlay?
 
 $ emerge -S tovid
 Searching...
 [ Results for search key : tovid ]
 [ Applications found : 0 ]
 
 $ ls /usr/portage/media-video/tovid
 ls: /usr/portage/media-video/tovid: No such file or directory

any2vob and any2dvd are excellent tools. They are not in the official portage 
tree, but there are ebuilds on the author's site. any2vob makes any video file 
into a dvd compliant vob file. any2dvd leverages any2vob and goes further to 
make a full dvd iso with menus and chaptering (at predefined intervals). 
any2vob will even upmix a 5.1 ac3 soundtrack so you get a 5.1 soundtrack from 
stereo source. Highly recommended, but watch your hard drive space, there are 
very large temp files created.

http://mightylegends.zapto.org/dvd/any2vob/

http://mightylegends.zapto.org/dvd/ebuilds/

There is also a very good long running thread on this software on 
forums.gentoo.org, just search the forums on any2vob and you will find it.

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