Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/portage size
It's my quick dirty way for cleaning portage tree. Use at your own risk: #rm -rf /usr/portage emerge --sync -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)
On 16:38 Fri 16 Jun , Alan wrote: On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 01:04:37AM +0200, Christoph Eckert wrote: Both banshee and rhythmbox support mostly or will soon support fully the ipod :) Apple hard and software players don't support ogg vorbis, and that's why Apple simply sucks. Sorry, I'm usually not a guy of harsh words, but take care about teh file formats you use. Will you be able to playback your music bought in the Apple shop if they decide to discontinue their audio hard- and software? I don't have an ipod so I have no experience, but there is a 3rd party firmware hack that replaces the ipod firmware and supports flac/ogg/etc and adds nifty things. Depending on which ipod generation, they're two great options: - Rockbox. Open source firmware: allows you to play many file formats (flac, ogg, mp3...), play doom, gameboy games... etc. You can add songs just with cp, there's no need to go thru libgpod (of course you can do it so, to be able to keep on using apple firmware... on rockbox, just use the tagcache feature). That's what I'm using with my 5G. I find the GUI much more attractive and informative (especially using pjulius builds and wps: various patches including audioscrobbler support, album art...). There's no video playback. - IpodLinux. The aim is to be able to run an open source operating system on the device. With both you keep the apple firmware and can choose firmwares with a bootloader. http://www.ipodlinux.org http://www.rockbox.org http://forums.rockbox.org cheers P.S.: Sorry, my english sucks a lot... That said, everything I have is mp3 or flac transcoded to mp3 for playback on my crappy old rio cali :) -- Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://arcterex.net -- A ouvir (mpd): Franz Liszt - Litanies de Marie (first version), S171e (1846\\7) - GPG KeyID:0x9D2FD6C8 pgpTx3DTJa2YC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] xine compile failed
The suggestion was to upgrade to gcc 3.4. That's what the bug report says. On 6/16/06, Richard Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ... I've got exactly the same problem with after syncing. I've tried resyncing a few times. Any help would be great. Thanks, Richard. My output is: === cc1: error: unrecognized option `-fvisibility=hidden' make[3]: *** [xineplug_ao_out_none_la-audio_none_out.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9/work/xine-lib-1.1.2cvs/src/audio_out' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9/work/xine-lib-1.1.2cvs/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9/work/xine-lib-1.1.2cvs' make: *** [all] Error 2 !!! ERROR: media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1539: Called dyn_compile ebuild.sh, line 939: Called src_compile xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9.ebuild, line 235: Called die == emerge --info output == Portage 2.1 (default-linux/x86/2006.0, gcc-3.3.6, glibc-2.3.6-r3, 2.6.16-gentoo-r7 i686) = System uname: 2.6.16-gentoo-r7 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.70GHz Gentoo Base System version 1.6.14 distcc 2.18.3 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port 3632) [disabled] dev-lang/python: 2.3.5-r2, 2.4.2 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5 dev-util/ccache: [Not Present] dev-util/confcache: [Not Present] sys-apps/sandbox: 1.2.17 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.59-r7 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.16.1-r2 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.13-r2 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.22 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.11-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 AUTOCLEAN=yes CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-march=pentium4 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/3.4/env /usr/kde/3.4/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/shutdown /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/lib/mozilla/defaults/pref /usr/share/config CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/env.d /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo CXXFLAGS=-march=pentium4 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=autoconfig distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://gentoo.osuosl.org/ http://adelie.polymtl.ca/ ftp://cs.ubishops.ca/pub/gentoo ftp://gentoo.risq.qc.ca/ http://gentoo.chem.wisc.edu/gentoo/ ftp://gentoo.chem.wisc.edu/gentoo/ http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/gentoo/ ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/gentoo/ http://gentoo.blueyonder.co.uk ftp://mirrors.blueyonder.co.uk/mirrors/gentoo http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.ibiblio.org/gentoo/ ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.ibiblio.org/gentoo/ ftp://public.planetmirror.com/pub/gentoo/ ftp://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/Gentoo http://mirror.isp.net.au/pub/gentoo/ ftp://mirror.isp.net.au/pub/gentoo/ http://mirror.gentoo.gr.jp http://gentoo.gg3.net/ http://gentoo.channelx.biz/ ftp://mirror.averse.net/pub/gentoo http://mirror.averse.net/pub/gentoo/; MAKEOPTS=-j2 PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude='/distfiles' --exclude='/local' --exclude='/packages' PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=X a52 aac aalib alsa apache2 apm arts audiofile avi bash-completion berkdb bitmap-fonts bonobo bzip2 cdparanoia cdr cli crypt cups dbm div4linux dri dv dvb dvd dvdr dvdread eds emboss encode esd examples exif fbcon fdftk ffmpeg flash foomaticdb fortran ftp gb gd gdbm gif gnome gphoto2 gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 gtkhtml hal howl ieee1394 imlib ipv6 isdnlog jack joystick jpeg kde libg++ libwww mad matrox mikmod mime ming motif mozilla mp3 mpeg msn mysql mysqli nas ncurses nls nocd nptl ogg oggvorbis openal opengl osc oss pam pcre pdflib perl png portaudio ppds pppd python qt quicktime readline reflection samba sdl session slp sox speex spell spl szip tcpd tetex tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts udev usb v4l vcd videos vorbis win32codecs x86 xine xinerama xml xmms xorg xv xvid yahoo zlib elibc_glibc kernel_linux userland_GNU Unset: CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)
On 6/16/06, Allan Gottlieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What players would you recommend. My needs are modest, a few hours of MP3s would be enough. My primary goal is to listen to the teaching company lectures. What I would recommend is any of iRiver's current flash based models. Almost all of them have upgradeable firmware that can disable drm, turn them into a usb mass storage device, and add ogg vorbis support. They're really nice linux companions :) Check iRiver's website to make sure the one you get has a umd firmware available, if it does, you're on your way. (I just happen to have a rather old 128mb iriver flash player, works great. can even record 64kbit mp3 off a stereo line in, and holds ~2.5 hours of -q3 vorbis) -- Calvin Walton -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] remove xorg-server to emerge nvidia-glx =Normal?
On 6/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99 (is blocking media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762) [ebuild N] media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762 USE=-dlloader 0 kB Is this normal... is nvidia-glx a replacement to xorg-server? Actually, this is because the nvidia driver officially doesn't support xorg-server 1.1, only 1.0 (1.1 is xorg 7.1, 1.0 is xorg 7.0) Many people (myself included) find that it mostly works - some minor problems with bitmaps fonts in my experience. Unfortunately, if you've already installed xorg 7.1, it's really hard to downgrade. Perhaps you can find some help from someone else on doing that, I've make a local overlay ebuild without the block because it was working for me. -- Calvin Walton -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slow redraw of windows following -uD --world
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 19:29:40 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Calculating dependencies... done! [blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99 (is blocking media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762) [ebuild N] media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762 USE=-dlloader 0 kB So nvidia-glx replaces xorg-server? No. The current nvidia drivers are incompatible with the new Xorg 7.1 API. If you want to use the nvidia drivers you have to mask xorg-server 1.0.99 until Nvidia fix them, probably with the first 9xxx release. -- Neil Bothwick Microsoft is to Software as McDonalds is to Cuisine signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slow redraw of windows following -uD --world
On Saturday 17 June 2006 02:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: emergen nvidia-glx OOPS: emerge -vp nvidia-glx Calculating dependencies... done! [blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99 (is blocking media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762) [ebuild N] media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762 USE=-dlloader 0 kB So nvidia-glx replaces xorg-server? nope, the 'newest' Xorg 7.1 had some incompatible ABI changes. And nvidia+latest X CAN result in missing fonts. There are ways to circumvent it. Hm, have you unmasked any X stuff - or is everything over 7.0 unmasked already (if it is unmasked by the devs: why? 7.1 makes lots of troubles. Not smart. If it is unmasked by you, check your /etc/portage/package.mask) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slow redraw of windows following -uD --world
On Saturday 17 June 2006 02:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, nvidia-glx is NOT the kernel module. That is nvidia-kernel! You don't have the latest nvidia drivers installed? That might be the culprit! emerge nvidia-kernel emergen nvidia-glx eselect opengl set nvidia (or opengl-update nvidia) change 'nv' in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to nvidia OK this looks like a nice adventure but know one thing. Before this update I didn't have the nvidia-kernel either and redraw was fine. So something else has happened ... eh? maybe. Maybe a fontconfig update, maybe a X update, maybe some other lib, X depends on was installed, that is slower than the old version. But hardware acceleration is never wrong ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Using --deep [Was: Slow redraw of windows following -uD --world]
On Friday 16 June 2006 23:36, Vladimir G. Ivanovic wrote: On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 15:01 +0200, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: --deep is almost never needed. Some people love it and tell everybody to use it. Usually people who are version number freaks. But in 90% it is useless to harmfull. Could you be more specific, please? How is it harmful? What happens to your system when you use --deep? because sometimes a lib/dependency may be upgraded to an incompatible version, resulting in open and hidden breakage. Why is it that despite --deep being recommended[1] and used (I assume) by the majority of Gentoo users, I haven't heard of any ill effects of using --deep? (You are the first and so far the only person to recommend against it.) IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED! Read again! Code Listing 13: Updating your system # emerge --update --ask world owever, it will only verify the versions for the applications you have explicitly installed - not the dependencies. If you want to update every single package on your system, add the --deep argument: So it only says 'if you want to update everything' not 'we recommend it'. Oh, and it says 'sometimes to catch security updates'. Not 'everytime you update'. You can catch the security updates by being on the gentoo-announce mailing list. No need for --deep. I *always* use --deep when upgrading because then I am assured of getting *all* of the dependencies of packages I am emerging. I am not aware of *ever* having system problems due to using --deep. How do you prevent packages from being installed that are missing dependencies? I don't prevent packages installed with missing deps. Portage does this. You don't need --deep to 'Get all dependencies' portage will does that for you. --deep upgrades everything in your system,which is totally different from dependency solution and might break stuff, because a dependency might get upgraded to an incompatible version. I am using gentoo since 1.0 And for some time, I used --deep. Until I got A LOT of breakage. KDE here, enlightenment there, XFCE too, this game started to be crashy, that application did not show jpegs/gifs/png anymore and so on and so forth. I have seen the damage --deep can do first hand, and I strongly recommend not to use it. Security updates - that is what gentoo-announce is for. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] remove xorg-server to emerge nvidia-glx =Normal?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to break out of the thread where this is being discussed but I got part way thru some instructions about getting nvidia-glx setup and saw something that looks like it might throw a monkey wrench into things. I've emerged nvidia-kernel without problems. The next step is where I see this: root # emerge -vp nvidia-glx These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99 (is blocking media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762) [ebuild N] media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762 USE=-dlloader 0 kB Is this normal... is nvidia-glx a replacement to xorg-server? There is a bug with xorg 7.1 nvidia drivers [http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130292] If you have xorg 7.1 already, you must downgrade .. Use this package.mask http://rafb.net/paste/results/HPsvCD94.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slow redraw of windows following -uD --world
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Saturday 17 June 2006 02:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: emergen nvidia-glx OOPS: emerge -vp nvidia-glx Calculating dependencies... done! [blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99 (is blocking media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762) [ebuild N] media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762 USE=-dlloader 0 kB So nvidia-glx replaces xorg-server? nope, the 'newest' Xorg 7.1 had some incompatible ABI changes. And nvidia+latest X CAN result in missing fonts. There are ways to circumvent it. Hm, have you unmasked any X stuff - or is everything over 7.0 unmasked already (if it is unmasked by the devs: why? 7.1 makes lots of troubles. Not smart. If it is unmasked by you, check your /etc/portage/package.mask I answered in the `[gentoo-user] remove xorg-server to emerge nvidia-glx =Normal?' There's a link on packages.mask, what will solve your problem -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Using --deep
On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 22:08 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being the thread owner so to speak, I'd like to ask something of you here. The converse of your question. How is it good. --deep catches dependencies of dependencies. Can't speak for Hermman of course but I think he was suggesting that somewhere `Deep' in the dependancies of something things got tangled up and caused something to bread that has bearing on my `slow redraw' problem ending up with a need to revdep-rebuild to find the problems. I manually re-emerge any packages identified by emerge -av --depclean and then I fix whatever revdep-rebuild -av complains about. I do this after deep updates (usually). I have not run into package dependency-related problems. I still haven't seen what is at the root of my redraw problem and haven't really heard any advice about how to debug it further. I would like to hear both sides of this since you both are obviously quite knowledgale about how gentoo works I *always* use --deep when upgrading because then I am assured of getting *all* of the dependencies of packages I am emerging. I am not aware of *ever* having system problems due to using --deep. How do you prevent packages from being installed that are missing dependencies? I have been using --deep as a matter of course when upgrading and I can say I have had system problems *absolutely every time* I've upgraded. And (Embarrassing given the sad state of my skill level) but I've been running gentoo for something like 2 or more years . I don't know if the problems I've had are attributable to --deep in any way, but I can say its likey to be at least in part due to ill informed bumbling on my part. The problems haven't always been big ones but there have always been some requiring me to post here for advice. Many were about the tangled web of kde dependancies. I do not see this and I have kde-meta installed. How would you recognize that a system problem was or was not attributable to `--deep'? Also isn't emerge supposed to find dependancies as a default behavior? See above. In particular how can we determine what is wrong in my system causing the slow redrawing of windows and slow scrolling. Its getting annoying enough that I'm thinkin about trashing this install and going back to a stage install from snapshots and see if I still get this slow redraw. I ran glxgears recently, and I was shocked to see how slowly they turned. (I'm getting ~500 FPS.) I remember the gears turning much, much faster. Perhaps my upgrade to xorg 7.0 has something to do with it. But, regardless, I don't think slow GLX is due to emerging problems caused by using --deep. I may have misconfigured a package, or installed something that I shouldn't, but my dependencies are not out of whack. The revdep-rebuild that Hermman suggested did find problems with gcc that I fixed by re emerging it with USE=-gcj. But apparently this is not related to `slow redraw'. --- Vladimir -- Vladimir G. Ivanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Short question on eix-sync; emerge -up world
Hi, I do a eix-sync; emerge -up world on a regular basis. Since some time there are many KDE-related items in the output of the above command, that are marked with NS. From the manpage of emerge I saw, that there are new and sloted versions. Sloted means something like side by side with the old version. But: For me as user/sysadminwhat advantage I would have to install two versions of KDE-pakets ? Thanks a lot for every helpful reply ! :) Have a nice weekend! mcc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Short question on eix-sync; emerge -up world
On 17/06/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But: For me as user/sysadminwhat advantage I would have to install two versions of KDE-pakets ? I haven't found a use for keeping the old KDE next to a new slotted version, so I unmerge the old one after the new installation is successfully completed. Of course I run (mostly) stable packages and as a result KDE emerges usually work straight out of the box. If you run ~ARCH then you may still need the old version until bugs and teething problems are ironed out. That's just my 2c's. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux make modules solved
On 16/06/06, Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justin R Findlay wrote: I finally figured out why linux wouldn't build its modules. Although I learned a lot about make it was because I had set GREP_OPTIONS=--color=always Using --color=auto would have circumvented this problem and still given you pretty colours when you run grep from the console. I am getting confused here: why is module building related to setting grep's colour option? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] -fvisibility=hidden
On Friday 16 June 2006 11:08 pm, Jeremy Olexa wrote: David Corbin wrote: while attempt to upgrade my system, I'm getting this failure. i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../.. -I../../include -I../../include -I../../src -I../../src/xine-engine -I../../src/xine-engine -I../../src/xine-utils -I../../src/input -I../../src/input -I../../lib -DXINE_COMPILE -fvisibility=hidden -DNDEBUG -D_REENTRANT -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DXINE_COMPILE -O2 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers -ffunction-sections -c audio_none_out.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/xineplug_ao_out_none_la-audio_none_out.o cc1: error: unrecognized option `-fvisibility=hidden' make[3]: *** [xineplug_ao_out_none_la-audio_none_out.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9/work/xine-lib-1.1.2cvs/sr c/audio_out' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9/work/xine-lib-1.1.2cvs/sr c' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9/work/xine-lib-1.1.2cvs' make: *** [all] Error 2 !!! ERROR: media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1539: Called dyn_compile ebuild.sh, line 939: Called src_compile xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9.ebuild, line 235: Called die Any ideas for working around it? David There was just a thread about this issue this week.. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/163209/focus=163209 I think the consensus was to upgrade gcc to the latest stable version. I don't remember exactly though. HTH and please search next time. ;-) Thanks. I happened on that thread this morning, and I did search, but I guess it was too fresh for Google. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Trouble with dhcpcd after update
On 16/06/06, Jean Magnan de Bornier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a dhcpc directory in /etc and it is empty... In my up-to-date system there is no /etc/dhcp* file or directory. Check that hostname, domainname are correct in /etc/conf.d/ and that /etc/hosts has the right entries for your machine. dhdpcd should do the rest on its own when it is called from your /etc/conf.d/net.eth0 file (link to .etc.conf.d/net). All such config files are now in the /etc/conf.d/ directory. To overcome the boot problem remove net.eth0 from the default runlevel: # rc-update -d net.eth0 HTH -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Short question on eix-sync; emerge -up world
On Saturday 17 June 2006 11:23, Meino Christian Cramer wrote: But: For me as user/sysadminwhat advantage I would have to install two versions of KDE-pakets ? The advantage is that you can test one before you remove the other. Or let it be up to the individual user which version (s)he prefers by having both installed. Now they made it slotted because the different minor versions of KDE do not mix. If they allowed them to mix it would result in unpredictable bugs that would make supporting KDE a nightmare. So to avoid that they are mixed they had two options. One is to make them slotted like they did and which results in great flexibility. The *only* other alternative would have been to make them block each other and hence require that you removed the old version before you could even test if the new version were able to compile much less if it actually worked. -- Bo Andresen pgpGbtBdCTlnn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Module philosophy: Compile-in or Load
On 13/06/06, Ryan Tandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony E. Caudel wrote: How? make modules_install or the whole thing: make make modules_install then just modprobe the new module? # make modules modules_install # modprobe module Do you also need to run make install or is it not necessary to copy anything to /boot? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux make modules solved
On Saturday 17 June 2006 12:15, Mick wrote: I am getting confused here: why is module building related to setting grep's colour option? There is probably some script that parses the output of grep, and, with --color=always, this includes terminal control characters and escape sequences which confuse the parser. Using --color=auto, on the other hand, is the correct way to do the right thing, ie grep itself knows whether it should emit escape sequences to colorize the output (if it's really outputting to terminal) or not (if, for example, it's called from inside a command substitution). The following works: echo hello | grep ello | grep hello The following does not work, since the output of the first grep contains garbage (from the point of view of the second grep) between the h and the e: echo hello | grep --color=always ello | grep hello # does not work Finally, the next one works, because the first grep knows that colorizing the output here is useless and does not emit escape sequences: echo hello | grep --color=auto ello | grep hello # works HTH -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux make modules solved
On Saturday 17 June 2006 13:48, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: Using --color=auto, on the other hand, is the correct way to do the right thing, ie grep itself knows whether it should emit escape sequences to colorize the output (if it's really outputting to terminal) or not (if, for example, it's called from inside a command substitution). Just to show you the purpose of adding --color=always. Try the following: # echo hello | grep --color=auto ll | less # echo hello | grep --color=always ll | less -- Bo Andresen pgpuXDVPZLnZG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] linux make modules solved
On 17/06/06, Etaoin Shrdlu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 17 June 2006 12:15, Mick wrote: I am getting confused here: why is module building related to setting grep's colour option? There is probably some script that parses the output of grep, and, with --color=always, this includes terminal control characters and escape sequences which confuse the parser. Using --color=auto, on the other hand, is the correct way to do the right thing, ie grep itself knows whether it should emit escape sequences to colorize the output (if it's really outputting to terminal) or not (if, for example, it's called from inside a command substitution). The following works: echo hello | grep ello | grep hello The following does not work, since the output of the first grep contains garbage (from the point of view of the second grep) between the h and the e: echo hello | grep --color=always ello | grep hello # does not work Finally, the next one works, because the first grep knows that colorizing the output here is useless and does not emit escape sequences: echo hello | grep --color=auto ello | grep hello # works Thanks! Nice explanation. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: remove xorg-server to emerge nvidia-glx =Normal?
Pavel Kouřil [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99 (is blocking media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762) [ebuild N] media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762 USE=-dlloader 0 kB Is this normal... is nvidia-glx a replacement to xorg-server? There is a bug with xorg 7.1 nvidia drivers [http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130292] If you have xorg 7.1 already, you must downgrade .. Use this package.mask http://rafb.net/paste/results/HPsvCD94.html That is a nifty site with paste code setup. The setup allows code to be downloaded in several formats.. handy. I guess the expectation is that all this will go away in near future? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: remove xorg-server to emerge nvidia-glx =Normal?
Calvin Walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unfortunately, if you've already installed xorg 7.1, it's really hard to downgrade. Perhaps you can find some help from someone else on doing that, I've make a local overlay ebuild without the block because it was working for me. Pavel appears to be suggesting that I un-emerge the current xorg-server. Then install the nvidia stuff and then using his package.mask, reinstall xorg-server. Do you think that will lead to troubles? I'm going to close down X and try it... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Using --deep [Was: Slow redraw of windows following -uD --world]
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:53:17 +0200, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: Could you be more specific, please? How is it harmful? What happens to your system when you use --deep? because sometimes a lib/dependency may be upgraded to an incompatible version, resulting in open and hidden breakage. If the later version is incompatible with installed software, that software should block the update. this behaviour indicates a broken ebuild. The main risk with using deep, particularly on a ~arch system, is that you get the updates when they come out, instead of waiting until they are needed. not using deep lets others hit the problems and get them sorted out before you need an update. Code Listing 13: Updating your system # emerge --update --ask world owever, it will only verify the versions for the applications you have explicitly installed - not the dependencies. If you want to update every single package on your system, add the --deep argument: That's wrong. emerge package checks only the package. emerge --update package check package and any first-level dependencies and updates them all. Even if package has not been updated, if a first-level dependency has, it will be installed. First level dependencies are those listed in the package's ebuild. emerge --update --deep package follows the complete dependency tree for package. Even emerge --update --deep world may not update everything. If a package is not in your world file, nor a dependency of something in your world file, it will not be updated. Oh, and it says 'sometimes to catch security updates'. Not 'everytime you update'. You can catch the security updates by being on the gentoo-announce mailing list. No need for --deep. Or by running glsa-check --test all every time you sync or from a cron task. -- Neil Bothwick QOTD: The only easy way to tell a hamster from a gerbil is that the gerbil has more dark meat. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Short question on eix-sync; emerge -up world
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 11:23:43 +0200 (CEST), Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Sloted means something like side by side with the old version. But: For me as user/sysadminwhat advantage I would have to install two versions of KDE-pakets ? It means you can choose between the two versions, testing the new one before removing the old. It also means you don't have to remove 3.4 before you install 3.5, which could render you without KDE for up to a day, depending on the speed of your computer. -- Neil Bothwick Committee (noun): A group of people spending hours taking minutes signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: remove xorg-server to emerge nvidia-glx =Normal?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pavel Kouřil [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99 (is blocking media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762) [ebuild N] media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762 USE=-dlloader 0 kB Is this normal... is nvidia-glx a replacement to xorg-server? There is a bug with xorg 7.1 nvidia drivers [http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130292] If you have xorg 7.1 already, you must downgrade .. Use this package.mask http://rafb.net/paste/results/HPsvCD94.html That is a nifty site with paste code setup. The setup allows code to be downloaded in several formats.. handy. I guess the expectation is that all this will go away in near future? On rafb.net it will disapper in few days .. There is a one option, you can use the `nv' driver instead the `nvidia' driver (I know, my english sux) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Short question on eix-sync; emerge -up world
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:52:51 +, Mick wrote: I haven't found a use for keeping the old KDE next to a new slotted version, so I unmerge the old one after the new installation is successfully completed. You have just given a use for having the two side by side. Without slotting, you'd have to remove the old version before using the new one. For example, first kdelibs 3.5 is installed and 3.4 removed, then kdebase, etc. Meanwhile you try to use KMail, which is still at 3.4, and it won't work because its libs have gone. -- Neil Bothwick Seduced by the Chocolate side of the Force... signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: remove xorg-server to emerge nvidia-glx =Normal?
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 06:43:11 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pavel appears to be suggesting that I un-emerge the current xorg-server. Then install the nvidia stuff and then using his package.mask, reinstall xorg-server. All you need to do is add the relevant lines to package.mask and do emerge --update world. This will downgrade xorg to the latest unmasked version. Then you can stop X, emerge the nvidia drivers and restart X. -- Neil Bothwick Dyslexics of the world, untie! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] gpg-agent - connection to .gnupg/log-socket refused
This is what I get when I try to launch the gpg-agent from a terminal: == $ eval $(gpg-agent --daemon) can't connect to `/home/michael/.gnupg/log-socket': Connection refused == No idea why. Can I fix it? This is what the permissions look like: == $ ls -la /home/michael/.gnupg/log-socket srwxr-xr-x 1 michael users 0 Jun 10 22:07 /home/michael/.gnupg/log-socket == -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Calculating world dependencies taking forever first time
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 01:24:58PM +0200, Benno Schulenberg wrote Walter Dnes wrote: I did an emerge --sync on my main machine, followed by emerge --ask --deep --update --world --fetchonly. It spent several minutes at Calculating world dependencies, with the spinner very slowly moving. Eventually it ran. Subsequent calls to emerge ran at the usual speed I'm accustomed to. You upgraded portage. The einfos said to run 'emerge --metadata' first thing. Thanks, I'll try to remeber that next time I emerge portage. Could it be made part of the portage ebuild? -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Calculating world dependencies taking forever first time
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:10:08 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: You upgraded portage. The einfos said to run 'emerge --metadata' first thing. Thanks, I'll try to remeber that next time I emerge portage. Could it be made part of the portage ebuild? No, because it is not necessary every time. It happened because you went from 2.0 to 2.1 and the metadata/cache format changed. Now you have 2.1 installed, you can set it to mail you the einfo messages, so you won't miss it next time. -- Neil Bothwick I've got a mind like a... a... what's that thing called? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Module philosophy: Compile-in or Load
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mick wrote: Do you also need to run make install or is it not necessary to copy anything to /boot? No need for that if you have only added modules. make modules only builds the modules, not the kernel itself, so copying the kernel to /boot wouldn't make any difference as it hasn't changed. But (as stated earlier) you should be sure that you are building the modules for the right kernel version. Maintaining an updated /usr/src/linux symlink helps with that (and is needed for other kernel related ebuilds, too). -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2-ecc0.1.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFElAZS6q4f+IV6B/wRAofUAJ4+A/+czQpL3NIC9z7MZf/uyUQEowCghFxr 5MzfAQLxBJfcxFS9hNZfbt8= =eL7D -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Module philosophy: Compile-in or Load
Mick wrote: On 13/06/06, Ryan Tandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony E. Caudel wrote: How? make modules_install or the whole thing: make make modules_install then just modprobe the new module? # make modules modules_install # modprobe module Do you also need to run make install or is it not necessary to copy anything to /boot? Not necessary. -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Using --deep [Was: Slow redraw of windows following -uD --world]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED! Read again! http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=1 says: Since security updates also happen in packages you have not explicitly installed on your system (but that are pulled in as dependencies of other programs), it is recommended to run this command once in a while. Funny, I can quite clearly see the word recommended. You can catch the security updates by being on the gentoo-announce mailing list. No need for --deep. Not every security update gets a GLSA on gentoo-announce. And then there are the many non-security bugfixes in every new release of a program. So if you just want to keep your system up-to-date you should use --deep. I am not using Gentoo as long as you do, but in a good two years on several machines I haven't had problems that I could trace back to the usage of --deep. Sure, you get your part of ABI breakages, but hey, that's the price you have to pay for using a source-based distro. And you usually get a warning in form of an einfo... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2-ecc0.1.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFElAtW6q4f+IV6B/wRAnByAJ4rRXMpx/iShQWNmLRoOPxqkuBK/ACdFSIz 17IT5up7F/cR3o5vLcPYnZk= =t4ih -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Which TV card to take?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nico Schümann wrote: Hi folks, I don't know which (DVB-S) TV card to take. It shouldn't be too expensive and should work correctly with the 2.6 kernel (without patching, if possible). I just want to watch TV with TV time. I've heard good things about Hauppauge WinTV Nova cards running under Linux. They price around 50 Euro here. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2-ecc0.1.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFElAzU6q4f+IV6B/wRAruqAKCB8QVsCLFEFw5J4RCCKGYZrSxJlwCfSGav FMtkkR/KOjHdCpYS79ncb2g= =p8Nq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Using --deep [Was: Slow redraw of windows following -uD --world]
On Saturday 17 June 2006 16:01, Michael Weyershäuser wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED! Read again! http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=1 says: Since security updates also happen in packages you have not explicitly installed on your system (but that are pulled in as dependencies of other programs), it is recommended to run this command once in a while. Funny, I can quite clearly see the word recommended. yes, but it does not say 'everytime you update' but 'once in a while'. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] libjs for gentoo?
What package provides libjs for gentoo? ubuntu has libjavascript-perl and FC has libjs and libjs-devel None of which shows up in gentoo BillK -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] supported mp3 players (hardware)
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 19:48:37 -0400 Samuel Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know if iRiver's support ogg? I use that exclusively and transcoding everything to mp3 would not be pleasant. My iFP-999 supports ogg. I use it on Linux - Gentoo with ifp-manager (which is not in Portage) and it works fine. Plug it into the aux jacks in my truck to listen to something other than the radio. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Licq Fonts
Hi, everyone! I would like to ask if anyone could help me to change the fonts in LICQ. I use XFCE. Changing fonts in it has no effect on LICQ. Thanks in advance! -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] NFS + user id mapping
Hi folks, I've got several boxes (non-gentoo) mounting each filesystems of each other via NFS, and I've added a new gentoo box (as server). It seems to work quite well, but the UID mapping doesn't work. How can I set it up ? thx -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service phone: +49 36207 519931 www: http://www.metux.de/ fax: +49 36207 519932 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cellphone: +49 174 7066481 - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] NFS - specifying export names
Hi folks, is there any way for exporting filesystems under another name (- the export name visible to the client) than the export path ? thx -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service phone: +49 36207 519931 www: http://www.metux.de/ fax: +49 36207 519932 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cellphone: +49 174 7066481 - -- DSL ab 0 Euro. -- statische IP -- UUCP -- Hosting -- Webshops -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] NFS + user id mapping
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Enrico Weigelt wrote: Hi folks, I've got several boxes (non-gentoo) mounting each filesystems of each other via NFS, and I've added a new gentoo box (as server). It seems to work quite well, but the UID mapping doesn't work. How can I set it up ? thx If you are using NFSv3 there is no real user mapping, NFS just uses the numerical UID and assumes that they are consistent on all boxes. User mapping (and authentification) are existant in NFSv4, though I never got around to use it (mainly because NFSv3 works fine for me as I'm just using it on boxes in a private LAN without any security concerns). -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFElCVl6q4f+IV6B/wRAgHXAJ0bEQAvtYqN0LMPW0NxHmydesMZBQCfQNtI 7ivtyPr2jurOHlXzMRyLwVE= =Kenf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] NFS - specifying export names
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Enrico Weigelt wrote: Hi folks, is there any way for exporting filesystems under another name (- the export name visible to the client) than the export path ? thx No. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFElCXS6q4f+IV6B/wRApsVAJ0TvgSVRVgQaqtt/ExU6z43+in8AACffCQY 7QrV7AO27YTKOS9F/l3GSBE= =nqhW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Upgrading slotted KDE
Hi, short question: Am I allowed to run a KDE-session while upgrading to a slotted version of KDE ? Thanks a lot in advance for any help ! :) keep hacking! mcc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] NFS - specifying export names
On Sunday, 18 June 2006 1:08, Enrico Weigelt wrote: Hi folks, is there any way for exporting filesystems under another name (- the export name visible to the client) than the export path ? thx You could try using a symlink. -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading slotted KDE
On Saturday 17 June 2006 18:01, Meino Christian Cramer wrote: short question: Am I allowed to run a KDE-session while upgrading to a slotted version of KDE ? Sure. This isn't Windows. :) If the upgrade installs KDE in a new slot it does not affect the old slot in any way. You can even delete program while it is running. You just cannot start it again if you close it or it crashes after it has been deleted. -- Bo Andresen pgpRtoYVT60k0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading slotted KDE
From: Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading slotted KDE Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:14:48 +0200 On Saturday 17 June 2006 18:01, Meino Christian Cramer wrote: short question: Am I allowed to run a KDE-session while upgrading to a slotted version of KDE ? Sure. This isn't Windows. :) If the upgrade installs KDE in a new slot it does not affect the old slot in any way. You can even delete program while it is running. You just cannot start it again if you close it or it crashes after it has been deleted. -- Bo Andresen Hi Bo, thanks for your reply ! :) in this (lucky) case I would have another question: Can I switch between both slots, or how is this handled ? Keep hacking! mcc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Trouble with dhcpcd after update
On 17/06/06, Jean Magnan de Bornier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Mick; all the config files are as they should be (I deleted /etc/hostname and checked /etc/hosts), however the problem is still there! I am not sure, but it seems that your dhcpcd is finding a number of servers on your network, offering IP addresses. When I run dhcpcd from a terminal on my computer I do not get anything back. It silently connects to my router (which is the only dhcp server in the LAN offering IP addresses). In my view this is not necessarily a dhcpcd problem because when you run the command from a console you get an IP address. So, it must have something to do with either the /etc/init.d/net.eth0 script, or the associated configuration files which the script calls. The default script should work straight out of the box so we are now looking for something being amiss with the /etc/conf.d/net and other config files. A critical symlink in /etc/conf.d/ which is not always installed is this link: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root15 Jun 11 2005 net.eth0 - /etc/conf.d/net If this doesn't help it may be worth going through the current gentoo installation handbook, which will be up to date with regards to setting up your network. | To overcome the boot problem remove net.eth0 from the default runlevel: | # rc-update -d net.eth0 Good! I hadn't thought of that; but of course it has to be temporary. To start/stop your eth0 interface run: # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start | stop | restart | zap I assume of course that you do not have dhcpcd in rc-udpate default level, but you have net.eth0 default (as well as domainname) instead? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading slotted KDE
On Saturday 17 June 2006 18:47, Meino Christian Cramer wrote: in this (lucky) case I would have another question: Can I switch between both slots, or how is this handled ? Please keep your replies on list only, i.e. don't include me in the To field. When you install two versions into separate slots they are simply installed in different places on the hard drive. Assuming you are speaking of KDE 3.4 and 3.5, 3.4 is installed to /usr/kde/3.4 and 3.5 is installed to /usr/kde/3.5. If you are using kdm to log in to KDE you can simply choose either KDE 3.4 or 3.5 each time you log in. It's as simple as that. If that doesn't answer your question then please have a look at [1]. And if you are still confused then please rephrase your question. [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-config.xml -- Bo Andresen pgpHsWtebj6Vm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Module philosophy: Compile-in or Load
On 17/06/06, Anthony E. Caudel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mick wrote: On 13/06/06, Ryan Tandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony E. Caudel wrote: How? make modules_install or the whole thing: make make modules_install then just modprobe the new module? # make modules modules_install # modprobe module Do you also need to run make install or is it not necessary to copy anything to /boot? Not necessary. Of course not necessary for the kernel (as Michael Weyershäuser already said), but what about the copy of the .config file? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading slotted KDE
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:47:56 +0200 (CEST), Meino Christian Cramer wrote: short question: Am I allowed to run a KDE-session while upgrading to a slotted version of KDE ? Of course it's onme of the benefits of slotting it. in this (lucky) case I would have another question: Can I switch between both slots, or how is this handled ? You'll find options for both versions in the Session menu of KDM/GDM. -- Neil Bothwick NOTE: The most fundamental particles in your computer are held together by a glueing force about which little is known and whose adhesive power cannot therefore be permanently guaranteed. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading slotted KDE
From: Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading slotted KDE Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 19:06:46 +0200 On Saturday 17 June 2006 18:47, Meino Christian Cramer wrote: in this (lucky) case I would have another question: Can I switch between both slots, or how is this handled ? Please keep your replies on list only, i.e. don't include me in the To field. Oooopssorry...that was not intended When you install two versions into separate slots they are simply installed in different places on the hard drive. Assuming you are speaking of KDE 3.4 and 3.5, 3.4 is installed to /usr/kde/3.4 and 3.5 is installed to /usr/kde/3.5. If you are using kdm to log in to KDE you can simply choose either KDE 3.4 or 3.5 each time you log in. It's as simple as that. If that doesn't answer your question then please have a look at [1]. And if you are still confused then please rephrase your question. [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-config.xml -- Bo Andresen Hi Bo, AH! Enlightment! Now! :O) That answers a lot and de-confuses me totally ;) I thought in levels of the complexity of upgrading glibc, gcc or such things (that's why my initial question...), but with using simply two different paths all that is really harmless! :) Thanks a lot for your help! :) Have a nice weekend, mcc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Module philosophy: Compile-in or Load
I like compile-in, generally less work must be done (just a hair, but it is less) On 6/17/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/06/06, Anthony E. Caudel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mick wrote: On 13/06/06, Ryan Tandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony E. Caudel wrote: How? make modules_install or the whole thing: make make modules_install then just modprobe the new module? # make modules modules_install # modprobe module Do you also need to run make install or is it not necessary to copy anything to /boot? Not necessary. Of course not necessary for the kernel (as Michael Weyershäuser already said), but what about the copy of the .config file? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Erik -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading slotted KDE
From: Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading slotted KDE Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:19:11 +0100 On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:47:56 +0200 (CEST), Meino Christian Cramer wrote: short question: Am I allowed to run a KDE-session while upgrading to a slotted version of KDE ? Of course it's onme of the benefits of slotting it. in this (lucky) case I would have another question: Can I switch between both slots, or how is this handled ? You'll find options for both versions in the Session menu of KDM/GDM. -- Neil Bothwick NOTE: The most fundamental particles in your computer are held together by a glueing force about which little is known and whose adhesive power cannot therefore be permanently guaranteed. Hi Neil, thank you for your reply ! :) I had thought in total different ways of slotting -- which were way too complex. Have a nice weekend! mcc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh
I do not have telnet installed on my PC, so in troubleshooting a connection to a mailserver I thought of using ssh. However, I do not seem to be able to get a response from the server regarding user login and password: == $ ssh -vv pop.virgin.net -p 110 OpenSSH_4.3p2, OpenSSL 0.9.7i 14 Oct 2005 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0 debug1: Connecting to pop.virgin.net [80.5.182.193] port 110. debug1: Connection established. debug1: identity file /home/michael/.ssh/identity type -1 debug1: identity file /home/michael/.ssh/id_rsa type -1 debug1: identity file /home/michael/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 debug1: ssh_exchange_identification: +OK POP3 PROXY server ready (7.2.073) [EMAIL PROTECTED] == Then it sits there and does not respond to me typing user, pass, or anything else. I've tried adding my username before the host address, but it made no difference. pop.virgin.net will not respond to any pop commands (list, stat, etc). Am I doing this right, or is it that an ssh client cannot be used instead of telnet to connect to a mailserver? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Package flag description
Hi, is there a place (URL) where can I find a description of a particular package flag? For example, when I type: # emerge -pv openldap ... Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] net-nds/openldap-2.3.24-r1 +berkdb +crypt -debug +gdbm -ipv6 -kerberos -minimal -odbc -overlays +perl +readline +samba +sasl (-selinux) +slp +ssl +tcpd 0 kB I'd like to know what the minimal flag include and its propose. I know that I can control the flags in /etc/portage/package.use Leandro. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Trouble with dhcpcd after update
Le 17 juin à 19:04:30 Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit notamment: | On 17/06/06, Jean Magnan de Bornier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Thanks Mick; all the config files are as they should be (I deleted | /etc/hostname and checked /etc/hosts), however the problem is still there! | I am not sure, but it seems that your dhcpcd is finding a number of | servers on your network, offering IP addresses. When I run dhcpcd | from a terminal on my computer I do not get anything back. It | silently connects to my router (which is the only dhcp server in the | LAN offering IP addresses). In my view this is not necessarily a | dhcpcd problem because when you run the command from a console you get | an IP address. Well, yes, it is definitely a dhcpcd problem, as it happens exactly the same way with either # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start or simply # dhcpcd In both cases I get 1/ a connection, 2/ an unusual verbosity, and 3/ a freezed console/shell. regards -- Jean Magnan de Bornier |Cours Victor Hugo e-mots: jean at bornier.net|13980 Alleins France T 08 70 39 34 03 |P 06 09 17 35 87 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Missing back_ldbm.la file
My ./configure:
./configure --prefix=/usr --host=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
--mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share
--sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var/lib --enable-static
--enable-shared --libexecdir=/usr/lib64/openldap --enable-slapd
--enable-slurpd --enable-ldbm --enable-bdb --with-ldbm-api=berkeley
--enable-hdb=mod --enable-passwd=mod --enable-phonetic=mod
--enable-dnssrv=mod --enable-ldap --enable-meta=mod
--enable-monitor=mod --enable-null=mod --enable-shell=mod
--enable-perl=mod --disable-sql --enable-syncprov --enable-crypt
--enable-slp --enable-rewrite --enable-rlookups --enable-aci
--enable-modules --enable-cleartext --enable-slapi --with-lmpasswd
--enable-dyngroup --enable-proxycache --enable-syslog --enable-dynamic
--enable-local --enable-proctitle --disable-ipv6 --enable-readline
--with-cyrus-sasl --enable-spasswd --enable-wrappers --with-tls
--disable-overlays --libdir=/usr/lib64 --build=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
2006/6/17, Leandro Melo de Sales [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi,
I configured my openldap and I run slaptest and got this:
# slaptest -d 10
lt_dlopenext failed: (back_ldbm.la) file not found
slaptest: bad configuration file!
How can I get back_ldbm.la file? The openldap version is 2.3.24-r1.
Thank you,
Leandro.
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slapd.conf
include /etc/openldap/schema/core.schema
include /etc/openldap/schema/cosine.schema
include /etc/openldap/schema/inetorgperson.schema
include /etc/openldap/schema/nis.schema
password-hash {md5}
pidfile /var/run/openldap/slapd.pid
argsfile/var/run/openldap/slapd.args
modulepath /usr/lib64/openldap/openldap
moduleload back_ldbm.la
TLSCertificateFile /etc/ssl/ldap.pem
TLSCertificateKeyFile /etc/openldap/ssl/ldap.pem
TLSCACertificateFile /etc/ssl/ldap.pem
databaseldbm
suffix dc=my,dc=domain
directory /var/lib/openldap-ldbm
index objectClass eq
rootdn cn=Manager,dc=my,dc=domain
rootpw {MD5}
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Leandro Melo de Sales.
Computer Science Student
Laboratório de Sistemas Distribuídos - www.lsd.ufcg.edu.br
Laboratório de Sistemas Embarcados e Computação Pervasiva -
www.embeddedacademy.org
Universidade Federal de Campina Grande - UFCG
Campina Grande - PB - Brasil
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Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh
Mick wrote: Am I doing this right, or is No, because: it that an ssh client cannot be used instead of telnet to connect to a mailserver? Exactly. I'd suggest to install telnet or nc/netcat. Alexander Skwar -- It was pity stayed his hand. Pity I don't have any more bullets, thought Frito. -- _Bored_of_the_Rings_, a Harvard Lampoon parody of Tolkein -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Package flag description
On Saturday 17 June 2006 19:48, Leandro Melo de Sales wrote: Hi, is there a place (URL) where can I find a description of a particular package flag? For example, when I type: # emerge -pv openldap ... Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] net-nds/openldap-2.3.24-r1 +berkdb +crypt -debug +gdbm -ipv6 -kerberos -minimal -odbc -overlays +perl +readline +samba +sasl (-selinux) +slp +ssl +tcpd 0 kB I'd like to know what the minimal flag include and its propose. I know that I can control the flags in /etc/portage/package.use Leandro. Two URIs: /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc Usually I prefer profuse (app-portage/profuse) of ufed (app-portage/ufed). Ciao Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.16-gentoo-r10, Compiled #1 PREEMPT Sat Jun 17 07:19:21 CEST 2006 One 1GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processor, 2GB RAM, 2007.29 Bogomips Total aemaeth -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh
On Sunday, 18 June 2006 3:11, Mick wrote: I do not have telnet installed on my PC, so in troubleshooting a connection to a mailserver I thought of using ssh. However, I do not seem to be able to get a response from the server regarding user login and password: == $ ssh -vv pop.virgin.net -p 110 OpenSSH_4.3p2, OpenSSL 0.9.7i 14 Oct 2005 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0 debug1: Connecting to pop.virgin.net [80.5.182.193] port 110. debug1: Connection established. debug1: identity file /home/michael/.ssh/identity type -1 debug1: identity file /home/michael/.ssh/id_rsa type -1 debug1: identity file /home/michael/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 debug1: ssh_exchange_identification: +OK POP3 PROXY server ready (7.2.073) [EMAIL PROTECTED] == Then it sits there and does not respond to me typing user, pass, or anything else. I've tried adding my username before the host address, but it made no difference. pop.virgin.net will not respond to any pop commands (list, stat, etc). Am I doing this right, or is it that an ssh client cannot be used instead of telnet to connect to a mailserver? -- Regards, Mick You cannot use an ssh client in this manner. If you want a telnet client, emerge either netkit-telnetd or telnet-bsd. -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Spontaneous access to the CDROM on two computers simultaneously
It happened again, but this time on just one of the two computers:
[20770.844282] hda: tray open
[20770.844288] end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 0
[20770.844292] Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 0
Since you think LVM may be misbehaving, I changed the filter on the
affected computer to read
filter = [ r|/dev/cdrom|, r|/dev/hda|, r|/dev/ide| ]
Ironically, that's on the computer that threw the error, so it could
be more evidence LVM has a problem if it is indeed the cause or
further evidence that it isn't involved.
The kernel on this amd64-based computer is now 2.6.16.20. LVM is
version 2.02.05 (versions from Gentoo packages). Device mapper is
1.02.07 and udev is 090.) Since I'm shooting in the dark, cc'd to the
gentoo ml since this system is gentoo-based (2005.0 profile).
/ 2006-06-12 01:06:30 -0400
\ Maurice Volaski:
Spontaneously and for no apparent reason, two computers displayed
the following message in their logs several times at the same time:
[55419.446442] Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 0
[55419.447381] hda: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady
SeekComplete Error }
[55419.447386] hda: command error: error=0x54 { AbortedCommand
LastFailedSense=0x05 }
[55419.447389] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[55419.447391] end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 0
...
drbd could at least theoretically triggered this somehow.
no.
much more likely some program scanning (discovering) devices.
just a wild guess:
man lvm.conf
/filter
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Computing Support, Rose F. Kennedy Center
Albert Einstein College of Medicine of Yeshiva University
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package flag description
On Sat, Юни 17, 2006 9:08 pm, Francesco Talamona wrote: On Saturday 17 June 2006 19:48, Leandro Melo de Sales wrote: Hi, is there a place (URL) where can I find a description of a particular package flag? For example, when I type: # emerge -pv openldap ... Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] net-nds/openldap-2.3.24-r1 +berkdb +crypt -debug +gdbm -ipv6 -kerberos -minimal -odbc -overlays +perl +readline +samba +sasl (-selinux) +slp +ssl +tcpd 0 kB I'd like to know what the minimal flag include and its propose. I know that I can control the flags in /etc/portage/package.use Leandro. Two URIs: /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc Usually I prefer profuse (app-portage/profuse) of ufed (app-portage/ufed). Ciao Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.16-gentoo-r10, Compiled #1 PREEMPT Sat Jun 17 07:19:21 CEST 2006 One 1GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processor, 2GB RAM, 2007.29 Bogomips Total aemaeth -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list My advise would be: Install app-portage/gentoolkit (if you haven't already done so). This package contains the program euse. Here is its output: # euse -i minimal global use flags (searching: minimal) [-] minimal - Install a very minimal build (disables, for example, plugins, fonts, most drivers, non-critical features) local use flags (searching: minimal) no matching entries found -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Reading ~/.xsession file
Greetings all, I'm having trouble getting my ~/.xsession file to read when I login. I am using XDM/KDM combination for a login manager, and I've noticed after googling that there have been problems with KDM and .xsession files in the past, but these articles date back to 2003. I use fluxbox as my preferred window manager. I know how to set things to run automatically when I start fluxbox, but I'd like it to start automatically no matter what WM I decide to use. Here is my current .xsession file: ~cat .xsession xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap I just want to define the multimedia keys on my keyboard, and make a couple of convenience changes for using emacs. Any help would be appreciated :) Thanks, Brad -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: supported mp3 players (hardware)
quoth the Thomas Kirchner: * On Jun 16 16:07, Allan Gottlieb (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) wrote: What players would you recommend. My needs are modest, a few hours of MP3s would be enough. I would personally recommend any of the players from Cowon (cowonamerica.com). They all support USB Mass Storage, meaning Linux works wonderfully, and they're all top quality. Ogg Vorbis/FLAC are fully supported as well. I prefer them to iRiver's products. +1 I bought the iAudio X5e for myself. Works a treat from gentoo and plays Ogg and flac files as well as the usual mp3 and wma. Also has a line in jack so I can hook up my stereo and rip/encode vinyl strait to mp3. Very happy with it, course it may be overkill for the OP purposes. If you want a flash memory player, the U3 or G3 would serve you well. Their new iAudio 6 is a great product - it's based on Toshiba's new 0.85 hard drive, and from the reports I've heard, is pretty durable with regard to shock. Plus, it's got all the features you could want and is tiny, but it'll cost you more than the others. Tom -darren -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 pgpvfuiWJXlXq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Package flag description
On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 02:48:59PM -0300, Leandro Melo de Sales wrote: Hi, is there a place (URL) where can I find a description of a particular package flag? For example, when I type: # emerge -pv openldap ... Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] net-nds/openldap-2.3.24-r1 +berkdb +crypt -debug +gdbm -ipv6 -kerberos -minimal -odbc -overlays +perl +readline +samba +sasl (-selinux) +slp +ssl +tcpd 0 kB I'd like to know what the minimal flag include and its propose. I know that I can control the flags in /etc/portage/package.use I find www.gentoo-portage.com to be a useful site for this stuff, too. Just search for your package, select it, and the click on USE Flags to get a description of the various flags. Not all of them are documented, but most are. HTH, Brad -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reading ~/.xsession file
On 17/06/06, Brad Camroux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings all, I'm having trouble getting my ~/.xsession file to read when I login. I am using XDM/KDM combination for a login manager, and I've noticed after googling that there have been problems with KDM and .xsession files in the past, but these articles date back to 2003. I use fluxbox as my preferred window manager. I know how to set things to run automatically when I start fluxbox, but I'd like it to start automatically no matter what WM I decide to use. Here is my current .xsession file: ~cat .xsession xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap I just want to define the multimedia keys on my keyboard, and make a couple of convenience changes for using emacs. Any help would be appreciated :) I also use fluxbox (with xdm) and have also found that ~/.xsession is ignored. To start apps along with fluxbox I made entries in /etc/X11/Sessions/fluxbox. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Video conversion
n Sat, 2006-06-17 at 11:24 +0800, Iain Buchanan wrote: On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 15:22 -0700, Ow Mun Heng wrote: Try these. Should be a simple --target DVD * media-video/tovid [ Masked ] It seems to be removed... or did you use an overlay? Yeah.. Sorry, its an overlay (though i believe the site has a gentoo ebuild) -- Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reading ~/.xsession file
On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 07:47:18PM +, Mick wrote: I also use fluxbox (with xdm) and have also found that ~/.xsession is ignored. To start apps along with fluxbox I made entries in /etc/X11/Sessions/fluxbox. Would I have to do that if I want to use fluxbox most of the time, but sometimes experiment with windowmaker, or some other WM? Brad -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reading ~/.xsession file
On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 01:58:38PM -0600, Brad Camroux wrote: On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 07:47:18PM +, Mick wrote: I also use fluxbox (with xdm) and have also found that ~/.xsession is ignored. To start apps along with fluxbox I made entries in /etc/X11/Sessions/fluxbox. Would I have to do that if I want to use fluxbox most of the time, but sometimes experiment with windowmaker, or some other WM? KDM provides a menu to select different sessions, so that's something you can try. Justin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh
On 17/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You cannot use an ssh client in this manner. If you want a telnet client, emerge either netkit-telnetd or telnet-bsd. Thanks for all the replies. I had not emerged telnet so far because of potential security reasons. Is netcat better in that respect? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Looking for a tool to produce 'reverse' SQL
On Thu, Юни 15, 2006 9:15 pm, Benjamin Blazke wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a tool that given an existing (base) database schema and an 'update patch' DDL .sql script on input would produce a 'reverse' script that could be used to undo the changes done by the patch. For example: base.sql: CREATE TABLE xxx (...); patch.sql: CREATE TABLE yyy (...); ALTER TABLE xxx ADD COLUMN aaa ...; ALTER TABLE xxx CHANGE column bbb ... reverse.sql: DROP TABLE yyy; ALTER TABLE xxx DROP column aaa; ALTER TABLE xxx CHANGE column bbb get this from the original base schema The purpose of this exercise is to have a production database (MySQL) server that needs to update its schema once in a while to reflect the changes in the related application without the need to recreate the schema from scratch (and possibly losing data). The reverse.sql script could be later used to rollback the schema changes at any time, even rollback multiple patches. How do people generally solve this? I'm sure this must be a fairly common problem. Thanks. Ben __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list If we're talking about a production system its very very bad idea to patch it directly. The right way is to have an offline mirror of the system where you apply the patches, test and only if they work fine, you apply the update on the production system. If the patches are not OK, you just roll them back, restore from a backup, or copy the live system over the offline one. -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh
On Sat, 2006-06-17 at 20:05 +, Mick wrote: On 17/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You cannot use an ssh client in this manner. If you want a telnet client, emerge either netkit-telnetd or telnet-bsd. Thanks for all the replies. I had not emerged telnet so far because of potential security reasons. Is netcat better in that respect? What makes you think that's it's better than telnet? esp when you see this during it's emerge [ebuild R ] net-analyzer/netcat-110-r8 USE=crypt -GAPING_SECURITY_HOLE -ipv6 -static 0 kB ps : Didn't follow the thread, so don't know what you want to achieve/do -- Regards, Mick -- Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh
On Sunday, 18 June 2006 5:35, Mick wrote: On 17/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You cannot use an ssh client in this manner. If you want a telnet client, emerge either netkit-telnetd or telnet-bsd. Thanks for all the replies. I had not emerged telnet so far because of potential security reasons. Is netcat better in that respect? I believe any potential security problems would only concern you if you were running a telnet daemon not just using a client. -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh
On 17/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe any potential security problems would only concern you if you were running a telnet daemon not just using a client. All telnet apps mentioned in the thread have glsa's about them re: buffer overflows. On the other hand I won't be running them for any great length of time, so it may be OK. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh
On 17/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You cannot use an ssh client in this manner. But what if mail-server uses secure connection (SSL) and secure authentication? Could I use ssh-client in such a case? Telnet would not help... Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT - MythTV won't connect to my database!
I've ensured that mysql is indeed running, but when I try to run mythfrontend, I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ mythfrontend 2006-06-17 16:09:09.260 Using runtime prefix = /usr 2006-06-17 16:09:09.320 XScreenSaver support enabled 2006-06-17 16:09:09.359 New DB connection, total: 1 2006-06-17 16:09:09.442 Unable to connect to database! 2006-06-17 16:09:09.442 Driver error was [1/2003]: QMYSQL3: Unable to connect Database error was: Can't connect to MySQL server on 'camille' (111) QSqlQuery::exec: database not open QSqlQuery::exec: database not open 2006-06-17 16:09:09.554 DB Error (KickDatabase): Query was: SELECT NULL; No error type from QSqlError? Strange... 2006-06-17 16:09:09.672 Unable to connect to database! 2006-06-17 16:09:09.672 Driver error was [1/2003]: QMYSQL3: Unable to connect Database error was: Can't connect to MySQL server on 'camille' (111) QSqlQuery::exec: database not open QSqlQuery::exec: database not open 2006-06-17 16:09:09.826 DB Error (KickDatabase): Query was: SELECT NULL; No error type from QSqlError? Strange... 2006-06-17 16:09:09.882 Database not open while trying to load setting: GuiVidModeResolution 2006-06-17 16:09:10.056 Unable to connect to database! 2006-06-17 16:09:10.056 Driver error was [1/2003]: QMYSQL3: Unable to connect Database error was: Can't connect to MySQL server on 'camille' (111) QSqlQuery::exec: database not open QSqlQuery::exec: database not open 2006-06-17 16:09:10.298 DB Error (KickDatabase): Query was: SELECT NULL; No error type from QSqlError? Strange... 2006-06-17 16:09:10.354 Database not open while trying to load setting: GuiVidModeWidth 2006-06-17 16:09:10.576 Unable to connect to database! 2006-06-17 16:09:10.576 Driver error was [1/2003]: QMYSQL3: Unable to connect Database error was: Can't connect to MySQL server on 'camille' (111) QSqlQuery::exec: database not open QSqlQuery::exec: database not open 2006-06-17 16:09:10.926 DB Error (KickDatabase): Query was: SELECT NULL; No error type from QSqlError? Strange... 2006-06-17 16:09:10.982 Database not open while trying to load setting: GuiVidModeHeight 2006-06-17 16:09:11.390 Unable to connect to database! 2006-06-17 16:09:11.390 Driver error was [1/2003]: QMYSQL3: Unable to connect Database error was: Can't connect to MySQL server on 'camille' (111) QSqlQuery::exec: database not open QSqlQuery::exec: database not open 2006-06-17 16:09:11.834 DB Error (KickDatabase): Query was: SELECT NULL; No error type from QSqlError? Strange... 2006-06-17 16:09:11.890 Database not open while trying to load setting: DisplaySizeResolution 2006-06-17 16:09:12.295 Unable to connect to database! 2006-06-17 16:09:12.295 Driver error was [1/2003]: QMYSQL3: Unable to connect Database error was: Can't connect to MySQL server on 'camille' (111) QSqlQuery::exec: database not open QSqlQuery::exec: database not open 2006-06-17 16:09:12.750 DB Error (KickDatabase): Query was: SELECT NULL; No error type from QSqlError? Strange... 2006-06-17 16:09:12.806 Database not open while trying to load setting: DisplaySizeWidth 2006-06-17 16:09:13.163 Unable to connect to database! 2006-06-17 16:09:13.163 Driver error was [1/2003]: QMYSQL3: Unable to connect Database error was: Can't connect to MySQL server on 'camille' (111) Why isn't the frontend connecting to my database? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reading ~/.xsession file
On 17/06/06, Justin R Findlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 01:58:38PM -0600, Brad Camroux wrote: On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 07:47:18PM +, Mick wrote: I also use fluxbox (with xdm) and have also found that ~/.xsession is ignored. To start apps along with fluxbox I made entries in /etc/X11/Sessions/fluxbox. Would I have to do that if I want to use fluxbox most of the time, but sometimes experiment with windowmaker, or some other WM? KDM provides a menu to select different sessions, so that's something you can try. As far as I know different WM read different files when launched. Even X reads different files depending on how it is launched (startx, xinit, xdm). So I am not sure that there is a single way of achieving what you're after. I have read though that one can use ~/.bash_profile for such a thing. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] ddclient question
hello, I have a few questions on how to basically access a specific machine in a network from the web. I have registered with dyndns.org and got ddclient running to provide the ip address, but the only thing I can now connect to is my network router ;) which is pretty useless. How would it be possible o change the setup for a machine within the smaller home-network? Does that have to do with the setup on dyndns or in the config file of ddclient? I can paste its content if needed, any advice and tips would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Karsten -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Introduction - new list user
Well, I'm a newbie in this form (mailing lists) of sharing information. Actually its my second subscription. So there's a newbie question from me about some of the terms used in this thread. I'm not joking, I really don't know. Additionally I'd say English isn't my mother tongue, so I really don't understand what these terms mean. I don't want to abuse the list in any way, even because of ignorance. So, please, let someone explain me What is - top posting - (no) snipping - to hi-jack a thread -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh
Hi, On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:09:57 +0200 Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You cannot use an ssh client in this manner. But what if mail-server uses secure connection (SSL) and secure authentication? Could I use ssh-client in such a case? Telnet would not help... The OpenSSL executable has this facility built-in. See man openssl-s_client (it has a basic server, too). -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ddclient question
On Sunday, 18 June 2006 6:50, krgn wrote: hello, I have a few questions on how to basically access a specific machine in a network from the web. I have registered with dyndns.org and got ddclient running to provide the ip address, but the only thing I can now connect to is my network router ;) which is pretty useless. How would it be possible o change the setup for a machine within the smaller home-network? Does that have to do with the setup on dyndns or in the config file of ddclient? I can paste its content if needed, any advice and tips would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Karsten This doesn't have anything to do with ddclient or dyndns, as long as the dns entry is pointing to the right ip then it's doing all it should. Your router should provide the ability to configure port forwarding to machines in your LAN. Simply configure it to forward traffic on whatever ports you want to use to the clients which are serving those ports. The router may also provide a DMZ function which will forward all incoming traffic to a specific machine on your LAN, although this may possible make the machine vulnerable to security exploits. You'll have to read the documentation that came with the router or search google in order to configure it appropriately as the configuration details differ between manufacturers and models. -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh
Mick wrote: On 17/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You cannot use an ssh client in this manner. If you want a telnet client, emerge either netkit-telnetd or telnet-bsd. Thanks for all the replies. I had not emerged telnet so far because of potential security reasons. Is netcat better in that respect? I actually know of no security problems with telnet. To which are you referring (note: telnet, not telnetd)? Alexander Skwar -- Fry: What's with the eye? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh
Ow Mun Heng wrote: What makes you think that's it's better than telnet? esp when you see this during it's emerge [ebuild R ] net-analyzer/netcat-110-r8 USE=crypt -GAPING_SECURITY_HOLE -ipv6 -static 0 kB What are you talking about? You checked what the USE flags stand for? Alexander Skwar -- Fry: What's with the eye? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Video conversion
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 22:01:15 -0700 Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: n Sat, 2006-06-17 at 11:24 +0800, Iain Buchanan wrote: On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 15:22 -0700, Ow Mun Heng wrote: Try these. Should be a simple --target DVD * media-video/tovid [ Masked ] It seems to be removed... or did you use an overlay? Yeah.. Sorry, its an overlay (though i believe the site has a gentoo ebuild) The tovid site has a pointer to the ebuild thread that is in gentoo bugzilla. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh
Jarry wrote: On 17/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You cannot use an ssh client in this manner. But what if mail-server uses secure connection (SSL) and secure authentication? Could I use ssh-client in such a case? No. SSL doesn't have much to do with SSH. Alexander Skwar -- A likely impossibility is always preferable to an unconvincing possibility. -- Aristotle -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh
On Sunday, 18 June 2006 6:39, Jarry wrote: On 17/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You cannot use an ssh client in this manner. But what if mail-server uses secure connection (SSL) and secure authentication? Could I use ssh-client in such a case? Telnet would not help... Jarry Well SSH, uses a specific login procedure and cipher set so I very much doubt that it can be used effectively for anything apart from SSH. If you really wanted to use telnet to communicate with servers over SSL then it should be possible to hack together a telnet client that encrypts and decrypts behind the scenes but otherwise acts like any other telnet client. If such a thing doesn't already exist. -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh
Mick wrote: On 17/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe any potential security problems would only concern you if you were running a telnet daemon not just using a client. All telnet apps mentioned in the thread have glsa's about them re: buffer overflows. They do? http://www.gentoo.org/security/en/glsa/ I can't find any *current* GLSAs regarding netcat and telnet. telnet-bsd: http://security.gentoo.org/glsa/glsa-200504-01.xml 2005 - rather old. Current Versions in portage are not affected. netkit-telnet: http://security.gentoo.org/glsa/glsa-200503-36.xml 2005, again. Fixed in currently available versions. http://security.gentoo.org/glsa/glsa-200410-03.xml 2004. no comment. And that's it. So, I disagree and stand to what I just wrote. I know of no security problems. On the other hand I won't be running them for any great length of time, so it may be OK. Actually, that's IMO a wrong attitude. Also a short exposure makes you vulnerable. If the software would be vulnerable, also a short attack might be sufficient to break into your system. BUT: As there are no GLSAs, I'd say that there are no currently known security problems. Alexander Skwar -- Knghtbrd glDisable (GL_BUGS); Endy heh Endy Is that in 1.2? :) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] New elog functionality Log rotation?
I was wondering if anyone could point me to the conf file to turn on log rotation for my emerge.log. Regards, Richard Broersma Jr. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Using --deep [Was: Slow redraw of windows following -uD --world]
On Sat, 2006-06-17 at 16:11 +0200, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Saturday 17 June 2006 16:01, Michael Weyershäuser wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED! Read again! http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=1 says: Since security updates also happen in packages you have not explicitly installed on your system (but that are pulled in as dependencies of other programs), it is recommended to run this command once in a while. Funny, I can quite clearly see the word recommended. yes, but it does not say 'everytime you update' but 'once in a while'. Are you saying that it's OK to use --deep every now and then, but terrible things happen if you run it all the time? If you believe that --deep is broken, file a bug so it can get fixed. --- Vladiimr -- Vladimir G. Ivanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New elog functionality Log rotation?
Richard Broersma Jr wrote:
I was wondering if anyone could point me to the conf file to turn on log
rotation for my
emerge.log.
Regards,
Richard Broersma Jr.
I use logrotate and it is here.
/etc/logrotate.d
Here is a sample of the file:
/var/log/http-replicator.log {
size 10k
missingok
copytruncate
compress
}
That is for http-replicator and the file is named the same. I guess the
name doesn't matter really.
I'm not sure but I think you need a cron job to run it to. Not real sure.
Hope that helps.
Dale
:-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Introduction - new list user
On Saturday 17 June 2006 23:29, Daniel Iliev wrote: What is - top posting We read from top to bottom and generally it makes more sense to read a question before the reply. Therefore it seems logical that any reply should be placed right below whatever question it is replying to. Top posting is when you put the reply above the questions and should be avoided. - (no) snipping Snipping is to cut away anything that you do not reply to. One should include only as many quotations as is necessary to make the context clear. - to hi-jack a thread To hijack a thread is when you reply to another post and change the subject when what you wanted to do was to create a new thread. Then the new post will appear to be a reply to the original thread when in fact it is not and if noone else replies to the original thread it certainly does serve to make the original poster feel overlooked. What you should do is just create a new message when you want to create a new thread. If you want to know more about netiquette you might want to have a look at [1]. Note that there are more useful links at the bottom of the page. [2] seems pretty good and brief too. I'm sure there are a lot of others. Google for it. :) [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette [2] http://www.penmachine.com/techie/emailtrouble_2003-07.html -- Bo Andresen pgpLvNWYaxk4L.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Using --deep [Was: Slow redraw of windows following -uD --world]
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 15:36:51 -0700, Vladimir G. Ivanovic wrote: If you believe that --deep is broken, file a bug so it can get fixed. --deep is no more broken than rm. Both are tools that do exactly what you tells them to do. If that is not what you wanted them to do, the fault lies with the user, not the tool. There is no good and bad about using --deep, only about using it inappropriately. Telling people never to use --deep is as misleading as telling them always to use it. The only correct advice is to help people decide for themselves when to use it and when not. -- Neil Bothwick Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how it remains so popular? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] does anyone here speak japanese? please help in translaton
I don't speak japanese at all :) -- Forwarded message -- From: 深圳物资集团有限公司 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jun 18, 2006 12:48 AM Subject: 深圳物资集团有限公司 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 致贵公司财务经理收: 本公司为广东省深圳物资集团有限公司.本着为双方公司利益的出发点，可向外代开（增值税发票） （普通商品销售发票）（服务发票）（运输专用发票），代开手续费请来电与我公司负责人详谈。 贵公司在进出项或做帐上相关的问题可来电咨讯。欢迎诚意的合作。 如这封邮件对贵公司造成打扰深表歉意,并请删除。 顺祝商祺 ! 说明： (本公司软件设置定时发送本邮件) 联 系 人:陆小姐 手 机:013631559992 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ddclient question
Raymond Lewis Rebbeck wrote: On Sunday, 18 June 2006 6:50, krgn wrote: hello, I have a few questions on how to basically access a specific machine in a network from the web. I have registered with dyndns.org and got ddclient running to provide the ip address, but the only thing I can now connect to is my network router ;) which is pretty useless. How would it be possible o change the setup for a machine within the smaller home-network? Does that have to do with the setup on dyndns or in the config file of ddclient? I can paste its content if needed, any advice and tips would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Karsten This doesn't have anything to do with ddclient or dyndns, as long as the dns entry is pointing to the right ip then it's doing all it should. Your router should provide the ability to configure port forwarding to machines in your LAN. Simply configure it to forward traffic on whatever ports you want to use to the clients which are serving those ports. The router may also provide a DMZ function which will forward all incoming traffic to a specific machine on your LAN, although this may possible make the machine vulnerable to security exploits. You'll have to read the documentation that came with the router or search google in order to configure it appropriately as the configuration details differ between manufacturers and models. hm ok, but lets say for instance my machines hostname is mymachine, its port is '' and the address which points to the router is myaddress.dyndns.org: what would be for example the ssh command to connect to that particular machine? I know its a bit of a stupid question, but I can't picture what this would look like/how it would work. I must saz understanding these network issues really is a bit tricky for me at the moment, thanks for your help anyway, Karsten -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ddclient question
On Sunday, 18 June 2006 9:15, krgn wrote: Raymond Lewis Rebbeck wrote: On Sunday, 18 June 2006 6:50, krgn wrote: hello, I have a few questions on how to basically access a specific machine in a network from the web. I have registered with dyndns.org and got ddclient running to provide the ip address, but the only thing I can now connect to is my network router ;) which is pretty useless. How would it be possible o change the setup for a machine within the smaller home-network? Does that have to do with the setup on dyndns or in the config file of ddclient? I can paste its content if needed, any advice and tips would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Karsten This doesn't have anything to do with ddclient or dyndns, as long as the dns entry is pointing to the right ip then it's doing all it should. Your router should provide the ability to configure port forwarding to machines in your LAN. Simply configure it to forward traffic on whatever ports you want to use to the clients which are serving those ports. The router may also provide a DMZ function which will forward all incoming traffic to a specific machine on your LAN, although this may possible make the machine vulnerable to security exploits. You'll have to read the documentation that came with the router or search google in order to configure it appropriately as the configuration details differ between manufacturers and models. hm ok, but lets say for instance my machines hostname is mymachine, its port is '' and the address which points to the router is myaddress.dyndns.org: what would be for example the ssh command to connect to that particular machine? I know its a bit of a stupid question, but I can't picture what this would look like/how it would work. I must saz understanding these network issues really is a bit tricky for me at the moment, thanks for your help anyway, Karsten $ ssh -p myaddress.dyndns.org Of course, you'll need to have configured the router to forward that particular port to mymachine. -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Introduction - new list user
Thank you very much for the detailed reply. ;-) Now I'm loading the links you recommended. -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Licq Fonts
On Saturday 17 June 2006 16:54, Daniel Iliev wrote: Hi, everyone! I would like to ask if anyone could help me to change the fonts in LICQ. I use XFCE. Changing fonts in it has no effect on LICQ. Thanks in advance! -- Best regards, Daniel start icq open main window (the one with the contact list) click on the button at the bottom, left, with the 'icq' imprint. Choose 'options' Down on the first page, you can change fonts. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Calculating world dependencies taking forever first time
On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 02:32:36PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote Now you have 2.1 installed, you can set it to mail you the einfo messages, so you won't miss it next time. I found a few comments in /etc/make.conf.example but the manpages haven't been updated yet. Is it possible to specify only the info messages for email? Actually, I'd prefer to log just the info messages to a separate logfile. The comments don't help me. I've got a mind like a... a... what's that thing called? They say that memory is the second thing to go. I forget what the first is. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
