Re: [gentoo-user] GTK user administration tool
Wagner Vaz schrieb: Hi all, I'm looking for some gtk application that I can administrate users on my BOX, can't be requered Gnome, KDE or XFCE, pure GTK. Thanks. All the best Hi Look here: http://www.gnome.org/projects/gst/ These are the Gnome System Tools, which come with a pure GTK Users and Group Settings Program called users-admin. They are in portage as app-admin/gnome-system-tools. The users-admin Tool seems to have developed further since the picture on the site was taken. Now there is more functionality, than on the picture. So long... Norman -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's make - a problem?
It's probably not the first time the jobserver messes it up cause the ebuild builds wine like this: make -j1 depend make Does that work for you ? Nope, it seems to do exactly the same thing as without -j1. -- () ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ - against HTML mail vCards -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: How to check for an existing ethernet link ?
Hi, sorry for being off topic, but I think, folks of this list have the knowledge to answer my question and I have no idea who to ask else... I need to check from within a C-program whether the computer, the program is running on (OS: Linux), is connected to the ethernet. The program is running under root privilege. Before doing anything else with eth0, I want to check the link-LED of the ethernet card...so to say. I sthere any legal way to do such things under Linux? Thank you very much for any help and your understanding for my situation. Kind regards, mcc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: How to check for an existing ethernet link ?
Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Hi, sorry for being off topic, but I think, folks of this list have the knowledge to answer my question and I have no idea who to ask else... I need to check from within a C-program whether the computer, the program is running on (OS: Linux), is connected to the ethernet. The program is running under root privilege. Before doing anything else with eth0, I want to check the link-LED of the ethernet card...so to say. I sthere any legal way to do such things under Linux? Thank you very much for any help and your understanding for my situation. Kind regards, mcc mii-tool can detect the status of an ethernet link, though last I checked it did not work for 1Gbps connections. Perhaps you can look at its source, and figure out how it is doing it. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's make - a problem?
Here is the weird part: The Makefile it tools/ says: all: $(PROGRAMS) $(MANPAGES) $(SUBDIRS) it also says: PROGRAMS = \ ... makedep$(EXEEXT) \ ... So, it should really be trying to build the makedep in the current directory (which is build_dir/tools) However, this is what make prints: make[1]: `../../wine-git/tools/makedep' is up to date. I just don't know enough about make to figure out why it might be looking in a different directory. -- () ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ - against HTML mail vCards -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] JMicron confusion
On 30/09/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't the all-generic-ide line prevent you from using DMA and such? The two objections I've seen to that is that it restricts the speed, and also renames the drives to hd* instead of sd*, so things would get switched around if I ever got to drop that parameter. I'm not sure about DMA, actually. The DVD drive is the only thing using it on my machine (the disks are SATA), so the performance and device name isn't really a concern for me. It is all sorted out in 2.6.18, though, so if you upgrade to that immediately after getting your base-installation done then you should be fine. Another issue you might run into is getting the onboard RTL8168 ethernet controller working. There is no in-kernel driver for this thing. I managed to get the vendor-supplied driver compiling, but isn't working correctly for me (it seems to be transmitting packets fine but not receiving anything). I've not looked into it much since there seems to be in-kernel support coming soon and I've got another ethernet controller card to use in the meantime. There are also lots of reports from people getting it working successfully, so it may just be something stupid I'm doing. Yes, I'm seeing that, too. I think at this point I'm looking into other motherboards. Maybe a good idea if you have the choice, but be careful. It seems a lot of the i965 motherboards are using the JMicron, since the chipset doesn't have a built-in IDE controller. Ryan W Sims Cheers, Duane. -- I never could learn to drink that blood and call it wine - Bob Dylan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] JMicron confusion
On 30/09/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/30/06, Duane Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running gentoo on exactly this setup. There was some trouble with support for the controller prior to 2.6.18, however it all works just fine if you use the all-generic-ide irqpoll boot parameters. Did you pass those parameters to the amd64 installcd? Or did you use kernelOfTruth's livecd? I passed it to the 2006.1 install CD (and added it to my grub kernel params, of course). Another issue you might run into is getting the onboard RTL8168 ethernet controller working. People on the forums claim they're using the in-kernel Realtek 8169 drivers, have you tried that? Not yet, my understanding is that a patch is required to get it working with 2.6.18. I have that compiled and ready to test, but I haven't got around to rebooting and trying it. I'll get back to you tomorrow :) Ryan W Sims Cheers, Duane. -- I never could learn to drink that blood and call it wine - Bob Dylan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Flash Plugin Grey Screen
On 9/30/06, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only problem is that all I see is a big grey block where the Flash presentation should be. Any ideas? Have you already tried emerge -C net-www/netscape-flash ; emerge net-www/netscape-flash? Yeah, several times, it doesn't seem to help. I also deleted my ~/.macromedia folder which didn't help. -- Michael E. Crute http://mike.crute.org The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair. --Douglas Adams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Flash Plugin Grey Screen
Michael Crute wrote: On 9/30/06, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only problem is that all I see is a big grey block where the Flash presentation should be. Any ideas? Have you already tried emerge -C net-www/netscape-flash ; emerge net-www/netscape-flash? Yeah, several times, it doesn't seem to help. I also deleted my ~/.macromedia folder which didn't help. Well I have only two more (stupid) ideas: 1) Have tried to start your browser with the factory settings? E.g. mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-bak and start it. It doesn't matter if it works or not it's only for the test. Then you can revert to your settings by rm -r ~/.mozilla mv ~/.mozilla-bak ~/.mozilla 2) Are you sure you are not trying to play a flash version 8? Because AFAIK there is no flash-8 for linux yet. ;-( -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: How to check for an existing ethernet link ?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: How to check for an existing ethernet link ? Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 10:27:34 -0500 Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, sorry for being off topic, but I think, folks of this list have the knowledge to answer my question and I have no idea who to ask else... I need to check from within a C-program whether the computer, the program is running on (OS: Linux), is connected to the ethernet. The program is running under root privilege. Before doing anything else with eth0, I want to check the link-LED of the ethernet card...so to say. I sthere any legal way to do such things under Linux? A common way is to use the result of a single ping to known up host, in an if/else control block. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list The problem is a little different here. In principle ping'ing is a good way to test the availablity of a net-connection. No doubt! But in my case I have to avoid *ANY* timeouts (wayting for an answer or another timeout for example: the timeout of gethostbyname()) if possible. My program has to react AS FAST AS POSSIBLE on error conditions. So if I can check the availability of a net-connection without actually accessing the net and wait for an answer (or an error condition) it would be the best solution. The fact that I am urged to use UDP makes things even more difficult. I know that simply attaching the computer to a switch/hub and removing the net-plug there makes the link check worthless ... but I want to try every possibility to find out, whether there is the chance to contact the target (wrong word...sorry) without trying exactly that (or similiar), haveing to wait for an answer (or error condition) and paying the panalty of timeouts then. If there is any net-programming hyper-guru out there who knows some special tricks to achieve the shortest possible time of reaction...here is someone who will thank her/him very much for any help in advance ! :) keep hacking! mcc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Digest verification failed:
On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 03:41:39 +0200 Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: ...[snip]... Since the offending file is in the portage tree rather than in distfiles it doesn't make a lot of sense to delete it since only a sync will be able to refetch it anyway. Had it been in distfiles then Dales suggestions are correct. In this case, however, the problem isn't with the file rather it's with dev-util/pycrypto (which calculates the hash) [2]. And wow, that bug is really old by now! ;P The solution: # emerge -va1 =dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1-r5 [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?part=2chap=1#doc_chap4 [2] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131293 -- Bo Andresen Bo, You've provided the solution! Thanks. David -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT overheat] How to cause shutdown on overheat
Am Samstag 30 September 2006 14:16 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Group, I recently built a ventilated stucture around my 4 desktops to try to quiet things down and get rid of the heat. I made no provision for forced shutdown in case of overheat, which is quite likely to happen if, for example the main ventilation fan went down for some reason. Well, that happened due to stupidity on my part with getting used to the new setup. I fired up a computer and neglected to turn the fan on. Then left it running overnight. Well, given the confined space and very little/no ventilation (of my homemade structure) the computer got hot... Sometime this morning I see syslog messages written to tty that say: Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Sat Sep 30 04:41:32 2006 ... reader kernel: CPU0: Temperature above threshold Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Sat Sep 30 04:41:32 2006 ... reader kernel: CPU0: Running in modulated clock mode [...] Some kind of attempt by kernel to cool things down. But will it actually shutdown if it gets dangerously hot? Further, how can I discover what temperatures were involved when this happened? Or can I set something to make a shutdown happen at a specific temperature? A nicer solution would be somekind of added stand alone temperature monitor in the enclosure that causes a controlled shutdown like one gets with `shutdown -h now'. Anyone here with some experience in this kind of thing that can steer me to some good information? Just have a look to your trip_point: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/trip_points critical (S5): 95 C passive: 87 C: tc1=1 tc2=5 tsp=10 devices=0xdff72dc4 When reaching 95° my computer starts to shutdown fast. I found more Information on http://acpi.sourceforge.net/documentation/thermal.html Maybe it helps you too. -- Michael Gisbers http://www.lugor.de pgpL4hROooZBh.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] cflag for em64t
i am installing gentoo on a em64t box.what cflag should i use also arch ??i am installing the 32bit edition .-- S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu)Home page: http://lavluda.tripod.com Blog: http://lavluda.tkYahoo!! ID: lavluda MSN ID: lavluda Skype : lavluda
Re: [gentoo-user] GTK user administration tool
On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 12:09:42 +0200 Norman Rieß [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wagner Vaz schrieb: Hi all, I'm looking for some gtk application that I can administrate users on my BOX, can't be requered Gnome, KDE or XFCE, pure GTK. Thanks. All the best Hi Look here: http://www.gnome.org/projects/gst/ These are the Gnome System Tools, which come with a pure GTK Users and Group Settings Program called users-admin. They are in portage as app-admin/gnome-system-tools. The users-admin Tool seems to have developed further since the picture on the site was taken. Now there is more functionality, than on the picture. So long... Norman Does it requere Gnome? I'm interesting on Configuration Tools (http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/config-tools/) Use Python and Python GTK. All the best -- Wagner Vaz Blog: http://wagnervaz.wordpress.com Linux User: #372744 GPG Key: B4D1B312 | Keyserver: hkp://subkeys.pgp.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: OT: How to check for an existing ethernet link ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Meino Christian Cramer wrote: But in my case I have to avoid *ANY* timeouts (wayting for an answer or another timeout for example: the timeout of gethostbyname()) if possible. My program has to react AS FAST AS POSSIBLE on error conditions. So if I can check the availability of a net-connection without actually accessing the net and wait for an answer (or an error condition) it would be the best solution. The fact that I am urged to use UDP makes things even more difficult. I know that simply attaching the computer to a switch/hub and removing the net-plug there makes the link check worthless ... but I want to try every possibility to find out, whether there is the chance to contact the target (wrong word...sorry) without trying exactly that (or similiar), haveing to wait for an answer (or error condition) and paying the panalty of timeouts then. If there is any net-programming hyper-guru out there who knows some special tricks to achieve the shortest possible time of reaction...here is someone who will thank her/him very much for any help in advance ! :) This is probably not suitable (as it may take a couple of seconds to register a change of status) but would greping for 'inet addr:' in ifconfig eth0 do? - -- Regards, Mick -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFH/hY5Fp0QerLYPcRAnrwAJ9iZhFaUV2SLyYRxvmBteRGnbTBrQCeMa+9 3ykTpKtqG2PC4hQn06mD2r8= =NXSt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Possible new gentoo user
I've been a SuSE user for several years now currently running 10.0. I'm interested in giving gentoo a try with the object of converting from SuSE to gentoo. I've been looking at this list for a couple of weeks and have determined that there may be a steep learning curve on my part converting. Any words of advice on getting up to speed using gentoo before I install it. Thanks for any advice you might be able to give me. Terry Eck -- SUSE LINUX 10.0 (i586) -- 2.6.13-15.12-default -- Sun 10/01/06 1:00pm up 16:53, 3 users, load average: 0.79, 0.54, 0.37 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Possible new gentoo user
On 10/1/06, Terry Eck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been a SuSE user for several years now currently running 10.0. I'm interested in giving gentoo a try with the object of converting from SuSE to gentoo. I've been looking at this list for a couple of weeks and have determined that there may be a steep learning curve on my part converting. Any words of advice on getting up to speed using gentoo before I install it. Thanks for any advice you might be able to give me. Terry Eck Hi Terry, I'm a non-developer, non-sysadmin, Linux-user type. I was pretty scared of Gentoo when I started a few years ago. (2002 or 2003?) Actually, it turned out to not be that difficult once you got into the swing of things. One thing I think you'll appreciate once you get used to it is the quality of the Gentoo documentation. It's really great stuff and seldom leads you astray. Read it carefully and you'll usually get things right pretty quickly. As for installing Gentoo, since you are building most everything from scratch it does take a few days the first time you do it to get to a usable desktop with applications installed and running. It gets faster over time but my machines always take me a day at least before I'm running a browser inside of Gnome. Read and follow the Quick Install guide and it will work. Use a test machine if you have one for your first install. Once converted to Gentoo you'll love that you never really do upgrades. Just updates. Portage is really nice at keeping things up to date. Run stable packages (i.e. - not ~x86 or ~amd64) unless you need a specific package, at least to start. In my mind there is little value to running a testing package unless you have a specific problem or need a specific new feature. Testing packages become stable package pretty quickly so you'll have it in a few weeks anyway. I must say that EVERYTHING I learned about Gentoo that mattered came from the generous folks on this list. Read the docs and then feel free to ask questions. Answers here seem to be the least confrontational, most informative of pretty much any Linux list I've ever subscribed to. Get GMail or some email client that is good at threading conversation. Email traffic on this list gets a bit high at time. GMail makes it work well for me. Keep in mind that if dummies like me can make Gentoo work, and I have - my wife, my son, my 78 year old father and 77 year old mother all run Gentoo now - then I'm sure you'll have no trouble at all. Hope this helps, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Possible new gentoo user
On Sunday 01 October 2006 20:08, Terry Eck wrote: I've been a SuSE user for several years now currently running 10.0. I'm interested in giving gentoo a try with the object of converting from SuSE to gentoo. I've been looking at this list for a couple of weeks and have determined that there may be a steep learning curve on my part converting. Any words of advice on getting up to speed using gentoo before I install it. Thanks for any advice you might be able to give me. well, read the documentation on gentoo.org. Handbook, installation instructions. If it seems to complicated to you, don't do the switch. But if you think 'well, I might be able to do it', try it. Backup your suse forst, of course. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Possible new gentoo user
Terry Eck wrote: I've been a SuSE user for several years now currently running 10.0. I'm interested in giving gentoo a try with the object of converting from SuSE to gentoo. I've been looking at this list for a couple of weeks and have determined that there may be a steep learning curve on my part converting. Any words of advice on getting up to speed using gentoo before I install it. Thanks for any advice you might be able to give me. Terry Eck Just one word: PRAY! ..I'm joking ;-) I would say you should be filled with patience - compiling the packets on your machine takes a lot of time and may be it is annoying for one who is used to just get the binaries and decompress them. The initial installation is the hardest part in this respect because it takes a long time before the GUI is ready. After this point compiling is not an issue - you may do whatever you please while emerge does its job. Everything else is just like on every modern distro. Most of the time it is OK but there are also problems now and then. The first time I tried Gentoo and didn't burn my bridges to turn back: I left my Slackware alone and installed Gentoo on a different HDD. A few months later the Slackware was gone. Now I won't change Gentoo for any other distro. Go forward and give a try! -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] DHClient Woes - No Modules Loaded?
Proof: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep -nr dhclient ./archival [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ I have been getting annoyed at dhcpcd, which will take 180 seconds to ping even if there isn't a networking cable in my NIC. I use a laptop, so you can easily speculate how I got so annoyed. I know that Kubuntu had the ability to detect whether there was a cable in my laptop and ping accordingly. I looked at my Kubuntu workstation and found that it's using dhclient. I installed dhcpd on my laptop and tried my best to make it work. I got the following: localhost lsauron # rc-update -s 855resolution | acpid | battery default apache2 | apmd| apmiser| aumix | bootmisc | boot checkfs | boot checkroot | boot clock | boot coldplug | boot consolefont | boot crypto-loop | cupsd | battery default cvsd | dbus| dhcpd|-- I understand this runs a DHCP server, not a client. dhcrelay | distccd| domainname | battery boot default esound | famd| gkrellmd| gpm| hald| default hdapsd|boot default hdparm| hostname|boot hotplug| inetd| keymaps| boot laptop_mode|battery boot default lisa| local|battery default nonetwork localmount|boot modules|boot mysql| net.eth0|battery default net.lo | boot netmount |battery default nscd| numlock| portmap| pwcheck| reslisa| rmologin|boot rsyncd| samba|battery default saslauthd| spamd| splash| sshd| syslog-ng| battery default urandom| boot vixie-cron|battery default xdm | battery default If there's anything wrong there, I'd love to know : ) Also, just as proof that I'm not a total and complete idiot: localhost lsauron # cat /etc/conf.d/net iface_eth0=dhclient iface_eth1=dhclient iface_eth2=dhclient iface_eth3=dhclient iface_eth4=dhclient dhclient_eth0= Once again, if I'm doing anything wrong... please tell me. I did check the gentoo-wiki, and found a most excellent how-to for running dhcpd to make my own dhcp server, however, comcast hates it when people do stuff like that because it compromises their network speed (what's left of it, anyways). I've done my job, and tried my best. I now look to the more wise and experienced to help. Thanks in advance for any insights! (PS: whoever made rc-update, you're a genius! Wish I had it on Kubuntu!) -- http://lordsauronthegreat.googlepages.com/ pgpofEM5MID8C.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Possible new gentoo user
On 10/1/06, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 01 October 2006 20:08, Terry Eck wrote: I've been a SuSE user for several years now currently running 10.0. I'm interested in giving gentoo a try with the object of converting from SuSE to gentoo. I've been looking at this list for a couple of weeks and have determined that there may be a steep learning curve on my part converting. Any words of advice on getting up to speed using gentoo before I install it. Thanks for any advice you might be able to give me. well, read the documentation on gentoo.org. Handbook, installationinstructions.If it seems to complicated to you, don't do the switch. But if youthink 'well, I might be able to do it', try it. Backup your suse forst, of course.I agree, just read the handbook over the course of a few days or however long it takes you. If you understand most of it (or if you didn't understand it before reading the handbook but you do afterwards) and you think it sounds easy to you, then everything else should be easy. -- David Granthttp://www.davidgrant.ca
Re: [gentoo-user] Possible new gentoo user
On Sunday 01 October 2006 11:08, Terry Eck wrote: I've been a SuSE user for several years now currently running 10.0. I'm interested in giving gentoo a try with the object of converting from SuSE to gentoo. I've been looking at this list for a couple of weeks and have determined that there may be a steep learning curve on my part converting. Any words of advice on getting up to speed using gentoo before I install it. Thanks for any advice you might be able to give me. Terry Eck -- SUSE LINUX 10.0 (i586) -- 2.6.13-15.12-default -- Sun 10/01/06 1:00pm up 16:53, 3 users, load average: 0.79, 0.54, 0.37 For your first time I'd highly suggest the graphical installer. It'll save you some time, and while a lot of people correctly point out that it robs you of a great learning experience, it was the only thing that enabled a complete newbie (me) to successfully install gentoo. Once you've got Gentoo installed though... it's almost invulnerable. I've done some really dumb things to my installation, and I've always been able (with a great deal of help from this list) to restore my machine to working order. I also have to say that your memory footprint will get smaller with gentoo. The stuff you compile is much more suited to your setup if you spend the time to tweak your system. It has some excellent tools for administering your system, and I haven't had a stability problem yet (Kubuntu is more error-prone than Gentoo - no joke.) If you're up to the challenge, Gentoo is wonderful. I love it so much I installed it on my server. Also, for a threaded mail client, KMail*, Thunderbird, and even MS Outlook Express have threaded features. If you're interested in GMail, I'd be happy to send you an invite. *Coming from a happy and satisfied (even spoiled) KMail user. Worth a try if nothing else. -- http://lordsauronthegreat.googlepages.com/ pgpauXUu9SJua.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] GTK user administration tool
Wagner Vaz schrieb: Does it requere Gnome? I'm interesting on Configuration Tools (http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/config-tools/) Use Python and Python GTK. All the best You can answer that yourself, by typing emerge -p packet. Nothing requires Gnome while Gnome is a packet of many programs. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Possible new gentoo user
On Sun, 1 Oct 2006, Terry Eck wrote: I've been a SuSE user for several years now currently running 10.0. I'm interested in giving gentoo a try with the object of converting from SuSE to gentoo. I've been looking at this list for a couple of weeks and have determined that there may be a steep learning curve on my part converting. Any words of advice on getting up to speed using gentoo before I install it. One suggestion: get a KNOPPIX CD and install from that (http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/altinstall.xml) This way you will have a GUI (KDE) right from the start. While you have several years of experience with linux, I had a few months with RH7.3, and only Apple (MacOS 8.6) before that. So, if I could do it... There was no genkernel then and no graphical installer. Didn't miss any. The major problem was to configure the kernel from scratch, but I managed it somehow. Good luck. -- Jorge Almeida -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GTK user administration tool
On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 21:01:55 +0200 Norman Rieß [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wagner Vaz schrieb: Does it requere Gnome? I'm interesting on Configuration Tools (http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/config-tools/) Use Python and Python GTK. All the best You can answer that yourself, by typing emerge -p packet. I'm not in a Gentoo machine, I'll install it in a feel days again. After I backup all my files. Nothing requires Gnome while Gnome is a packet of many programs. The mean is, Gnome dependencies like GnomeLib. All the best. -- Wagner Vaz Blog: http://wagnervaz.wordpress.com Linux User: #372744 GPG Key: B4D1B312 | Keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Possible new gentoo user
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Terry, Well, the way I learned it, when I switched from Debian to Gentoo, was that I used the Minimal Install CD. I also used the Gentoo Handbook (not the Installation Docs for the current version. The CD will detect ethernet links to the Internet, so you will be able to use: links http://www.gentoo.org/; (without quotes, of course) links is a console-based web browser. That will give you access to the Gentoo site and the Handbook. Doing it the way I've done it requires that you be familiar, or become familiar with the console. You pretty much follow the instructions from the Handbook, and you will learn what makes Gentoo tick. There is information and are links to information in the Handbook, that help. Oh, and a couple of other things regarding links: 1. When you want to download something, do not click on it - instead, use the arrow keys to navigate to the file and use the 'd' key - this will bring up a dialog. You can append a path to the beginning, by moving your cursor there and entering the path - I recommend '/mnt/gentoo/' if you are going to use the standard path for Gentoo. 2. You can navigate to pages you've been to before by using the left arrow key (the equivalent of the back button), or the right arrow key (the equivalent of the forward button). 3. It is better to navigate on a page by using page up and page down. The only other advice I have is, make sure you back everything up, in case you want to go back, read the handbook carefully, and don't forget to set your password. Regards, Chris Terry Eck wrote: I've been a SuSE user for several years now currently running 10.0. I'm interested in giving gentoo a try with the object of converting from SuSE to gentoo. I've been looking at this list for a couple of weeks and have determined that there may be a steep learning curve on my part converting. Any words of advice on getting up to speed using gentoo before I install it. Thanks for any advice you might be able to give me. Terry Eck -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFFIBR1vAEeEHp061sRAtbXAKCeRI7Sq8D0+9Szwr5/9msd61aRSQCgpzeT 8k58egJDOYj6vwxnQn0CXkY= =SC3m -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Possible new gentoo user
my first linux system was suse, then i switched to fedora...after a while i changed to debian then ubuntu then after a few conversations i switched to gentoo, but i had a lot of help from personen who worked very long ;) with gentoo. gentoo love it or had it ;) Am Sonntag, den 01.10.2006, 15:18 -0400 schrieb Chris Walters: -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Remote desktop to WinXP from Gentoo
Hi All, I want to access remotely my father in law's laptop which is running WinXP to help him out with his IT problems. I assumed that krdc will do just that, but all it does is to ask me for the password for my kdewallet and then it fails. The error message tells me something about ensuring that remote desktop is properly installed. :-( Is there somewhere a How-to for me to follow, to be able to connect to a remote default installation WinXP PC, with no physical access to it, from my Gentoo machine? Failing a How-to, how do you do it? -- Regards, Mick pgpkQkFMuHwbd.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] OT: Can't load pictures from forum
Not Gentoo specific but apparently specific to Linux. I belong to several motorcycle forums and since a site upgrade on one of them a while back, clicking on posted thumbnails opens a new window with the .jpg code instead of the larger picture. It is only this one site that does this and it does the same thing in firefox, opera and konqueror. Below is the link from a right click on a thumbnail. Does the code look strange? I'm not a php guy and can't figure it out. http://www.harleyshoptalk.org/forums/index.php?act=Attachtype=postid=8197 -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remote desktop to WinXP from Gentoo
if you use gnome, then use the remote desktop client or use VNC, just install vnc-server on the laptop emerge --vncviewer on your base Am Sonntag, den 01.10.2006, 20:55 +0100 schrieb Mick: Hi All, I want to access remotely my father in law's laptop which is running WinXP to help him out with his IT problems. I assumed that krdc will do just that, but all it does is to ask me for the password for my kdewallet and then it fails. The error message tells me something about ensuring that remote desktop is properly installed. :-( Is there somewhere a How-to for me to follow, to be able to connect to a remote default installation WinXP PC, with no physical access to it, from my Gentoo machine? Failing a How-to, how do you do it? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remote desktop to WinXP from Gentoo
On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 20:55:13 +0100, Mick wrote: I assumed that krdc will do just that, but all it does is to ask me for the password for my kdewallet and then it fails. The error message tells me something about ensuring that remote desktop is properly installed. :-( The exact error message would be helpful. Is the XP machine running a VNC server and is it visible to the Internet. Does the XP box have a static IP address and are you trying to connect using the IP address or hostname? In short, what exactly are you doing and what exactly is happening? -- Neil Bothwick There is always one more imbecile than you counted on. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Can't load pictures from forum
On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 04:00:34 -0400, Ernie Schroder wrote: http://www.harleyshoptalk.org/forums/index.php?act=Attachtype=postid=8197 The server is sending this with a Content-Type: text/html header. Mail the server admin and tell him to fix it. -- Neil Bothwick Gravity isn't MY fault! I voted for VELCRO! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Possible new gentoo user (the way I learnt it)
Hey welcome onboard! :-) I printed the handbookfor easy reference. With the handbook in my hand doing a manual install was pretty easy. Good luck! benedikt wrote: my first linux system was suse, then i switched to fedora...after a while i changed to debian then ubuntu then after a few conversations i switched to gentoo, but i had a lot of help from personen who worked very long ;) with gentoo. gentoo love it or had it ;) Am Sonntag, den 01.10.2006, 15:18 -0400 schrieb Chris Walters: -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remote desktop to WinXP from Gentoo
On Sunday 01 October 2006 21:04, Daniel Iliev wrote: Mick wrote: Hi All, I want to access remotely my father in law's laptop which is running WinXP to help him out with his IT problems. I assumed that krdc will do just that, but all it does is to ask me for the password for my kdewallet and then it fails. The error message tells me something about ensuring that remote desktop is properly installed. :-( Is there somewhere a How-to for me to follow, to be able to connect to a remote default installation WinXP PC, with no physical access to it, from my Gentoo machine? Failing a How-to, how do you do it? emerge net-misc/grdesktop Thank you. Given that grdesktop is just a gnome front end (equivalent to krdc, which I believe requires vnc) are any solutions that work with the default WinXP remote desktop/remote assistance set up? -- Regards, Mick pgpxhx62WbZSw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Possible new gentoo user
On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 13:08:25 -0500, Terry Eck wrote: I've been a SuSE user for several years now currently running 10.0. I'm interested in giving gentoo a try with the object of converting from SuSE to gentoo. I've been looking at this list for a couple of weeks and have determined that there may be a steep learning curve on my part converting. Any words of advice on getting up to speed using gentoo before I install it. I take it you'll be installing Gentoo alongside SUSE to start with. This is the best way, it lets you take your time over the installation while still having a running system to fall back on. The default method is a Stage 3 installation nowadays, which uses mainly pre-compiled packages to get you going. If you also download the packages CD, you'll also be able to install a full desktop from there, so you'll have less waiting around. The last full Gentoo install I did took just over an hour, from fdisk to running KDE. However, for your first attempt allow plenty of time, at least half a day, preferably a full day. I would avoid the graphical installer because the manual install teaches you more about how Gentoo works and makes life easier for you in the long run, mainly because it ensures you read and understand the handbook. Follow the handbook religiously, if you think there is a quicker way to do something, forget it, the people writing the handbook know their stuff. Don't start improvising until you have three successful installs behind you. Most importantly, there is plenty of help available here and in the forums, but read the handbook first - then ask. -- Neil Bothwick You want us to do WHAT? - Ancient Chinese wall engineer. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Can't load pictures from forum
On Sunday 01 October 2006 16:18, a tiny voice compelled Neil Bothwick to write: On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 04:00:34 -0400, Ernie Schroder wrote: http://www.harleyshoptalk.org/forums/index.php?act=Attachtype=postid=81 97 The server is sending this with a Content-Type: text/html header. Mail the server admin and tell him to fix it. Neil, Should it read: Content-Type: html? or is that comment unneccessary? -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DHClient Woes - No Modules Loaded?
On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 11:44:42 -0700 Lord Sauron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Proof: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep -nr dhclient ./archival [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ I have been getting annoyed at dhcpcd, which will take 180 seconds to ping even if there isn't a networking cable in my NIC. I use a laptop, so you can easily speculate how I got so annoyed. I know that Kubuntu had the ability to detect whether there was a cable in my laptop and ping accordingly. I looked at my Kubuntu workstation and found that it's using dhclient. I installed dhcpd on my laptop and tried my best to make it work. I got the following: [snip] Well, maybe I just misunderstood you, anyway... You could try pump (the fastest/best dhcp client I know of :-) and ifplug, the latter starts the wired ethernet interfaces when they get a link. PPS. The iface_eth interface is completely out of date, take a _very_ good look at `/etc/conf.d/net.example'. Greets, Jan-Hendrik Zab -- | Jan-Hendrik Zab | +49 (0)1773392888 | http://www.v3ng34nce.org -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Possible new gentoo user
Terry Eck wrote: I've been a SuSE user for several years now currently running 10.0. I'm interested in giving gentoo a try with the object of converting from SuSE to gentoo. I've been looking at this list for a couple of weeks and have determined that there may be a steep learning curve on my part converting. Any words of advice on getting up to speed using gentoo before I install it. Thanks for any advice you might be able to give me. I pretty much think that if I can install and run Gentoo then, anyone willing to give it an honest try can do it. I *do not* have a technical educational background. I writing this to retiterate what all other responses have said - read the Handbook and any other HowTo documents on the Gentoo site. Books have been written for other Linux distros, but no one has written one for Gentoo - it's not needed. Gentoo documentation is superlative and exceptionally easy to follow! If the something in the documentation needs clarification, or you run into a snag, the people on this list are always ready to lend a helping hand and in my experience you'll always be steered in the right direction. Good luck! At the risk of sounding biased, Gentoo is the best distro of any! I've used Redhat/Fedora Core, Mandrake (before it became Mandriva), Mepis, and Ubuntu/Kubuntu and you couldn't pay me to go back to any of those! Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remote desktop to WinXP from Gentoo
Mick wrote: On Sunday 01 October 2006 21:04, Daniel Iliev wrote: Mick wrote: Hi All, I want to access remotely my father in law's laptop which is running WinXP to help him out with his IT problems. I assumed that krdc will do just that, but all it does is to ask me for the password for my kdewallet and then it fails. The error message tells me something about ensuring that remote desktop is properly installed. :-( Is there somewhere a How-to for me to follow, to be able to connect to a remote default installation WinXP PC, with no physical access to it, from my Gentoo machine? Failing a How-to, how do you do it? emerge net-misc/grdesktop Thank you. Given that grdesktop is just a gnome front end (equivalent to krdc, which I believe requires vnc) are any solutions that work with the default WinXP remote desktop/remote assistance set up? No, grdesktop is a front-end for net-misc/rdesktop which is an RDP (Remnote Desktop Protocol) client. This is exactly what you need to connect to MS WinXP's Remote Desktop service. emerge grdesktop will pull rdesktop as a dependency. That's all you need. No Installation of VNC Server at the Windows computer. -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Can't load pictures from forum
Ernie Schroder wrote: Not Gentoo specific but apparently specific to Linux. I belong to several motorcycle forums and since a site upgrade on one of them a while back, clicking on posted thumbnails opens a new window with the .jpg code instead of the larger picture. It is only this one site that does this and it does the same thing in firefox, opera and konqueror. Below is the link from a right click on a thumbnail. Does the code look strange? I'm not a php guy and can't figure it out. http://www.harleyshoptalk.org/forums/index.php?act=Attachtype=postid=8197 It looks like the web server is not sending the correct content-type headers to the clients. The one who is responsible for the web-server should check the configuration files. For more specific answer, please, give more info. At least the operating system, web-server and php version. I assume it is some king of linux + apache. Apache has a file called mime.types and this file should contain a line like: image/jpeg jpeg jpg jpe and a file called magic (yes, magic, it's not a joke) which should contain a line: 0 beshort 0xffd8 image/jpeg HTH -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remote desktop to WinXP from Gentoo
On Sunday 01 October 2006 21:56, Daniel Iliev wrote: Mick wrote: Thank you. Given that grdesktop is just a gnome front end (equivalent to krdc, which I believe requires vnc) are any solutions that work with the default WinXP remote desktop/remote assistance set up? No, grdesktop is a front-end for net-misc/rdesktop which is an RDP (Remnote Desktop Protocol) client. This is exactly what you need to connect to MS WinXP's Remote Desktop service. emerge grdesktop will pull rdesktop as a dependency. That's all you need. No Installation of VNC Server at the Windows computer. Thanks Daniel, I really like the sound of this, but there's a catch. I do not run Gnome on my machine and grdesktop is of course also pulling in a load of Gnome libraries and dependencies. Is there a non-Gnome grdesktop equivalent? -- Regards, Mick pgp3IGXWhrQR3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Remote desktop to WinXP from Gentoo
Mick wrote: On Sunday 01 October 2006 21:56, Daniel Iliev wrote: Mick wrote: Thank you. Given that grdesktop is just a gnome front end (equivalent to krdc, which I believe requires vnc) are any solutions that work with the default WinXP remote desktop/remote assistance set up? No, grdesktop is a front-end for net-misc/rdesktop which is an RDP (Remnote Desktop Protocol) client. This is exactly what you need to connect to MS WinXP's Remote Desktop service. emerge grdesktop will pull rdesktop as a dependency. That's all you need. No Installation of VNC Server at the Windows computer. Thanks Daniel, I really like the sound of this, but there's a catch. I do not run Gnome on my machine and grdesktop is of course also pulling in a load of Gnome libraries and dependencies. Is there a non-Gnome grdesktop equivalent? Ok, then just emerge rdesktop w/o the front-end and start it by typing rdesktop in kterminal or whatever is your favorite X-terminal-emulator. The basinc syntax is: rdesktop my-father's-pc -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] amd64 install from x86 livecd?
There are a couple liveCDs in the forums for booting boards with the tricky JMicron goodness, but the one that seems to have the best shot at booting correctly is an x86-based livecd. If I boot from that, use it to setup my partitions and so on, but use an amd64 stage from the internet, will I be able to complete an amd64 install? Or will things get too confused to compile? -- Ryan W Sims -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] amd64 install from x86 livecd?
On Monday 02 October 2006 00:07, Ryan Sims wrote: There are a couple liveCDs in the forums for booting boards with the tricky JMicron goodness, but the one that seems to have the best shot at booting correctly is an x86-based livecd. If I boot from that, use it to setup my partitions and so on, but use an amd64 stage from the internet, will I be able to complete an amd64 install? Or will things get too confused to compile? A 32 bit kernel cannot run 64 bit code. Use an amd64-based livecd instead. -- Bo Andresen pgp0bek1jkn6N.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Possible new gentoo user
Lord Sauron wrote: For your first time I'd highly suggest the graphical installer. It'll save you some time, and while a lot of people correctly point out that it robs you of a great learning experience, it was the only thing that enabled a complete newbie (me) to successfully install gentoo. I have to go the complete opposite direction from this. I'd stay away from the graphical installer at least for a releases yet - IMO it isn't a very stable product yet (no offense installer team, just needs more time) and is known to break things on a regular basis. Put in the time, do it by hand, and do it properly, configuring your own kernel and such. It'll be worth it, because by the time you first boot your Gentoo, you'll already know exactly what's in it. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remote desktop to WinXP from Gentoo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mick wrote: Hi All, I want to access remotely my father in law's laptop which is running WinXP to help him out with his IT problems. I assumed that krdc will do just that, but all it does is to ask me for the password for my kdewallet and then it fails. The error message tells me something about ensuring that remote desktop is properly installed. :-( Is there somewhere a How-to for me to follow, to be able to connect to a remote default installation WinXP PC, with no physical access to it, from my Gentoo machine? Failing a How-to, how do you do it? Mick, You first mentioned krdc, I use this all the time. I *do* use it with VNC, but had often wondered if it was possible to use the native RDC feature in WinXP. So, when you posed your question, I took a quick look. If you want to use RDP as opposed to VNC, you must specify this in the address of the host to which you are connecting, like so: rdp:/mydadsbox.some.isp.com This should get you going. You can also bypass kdewallet by de-selecting that option in the Preferences. Cheers. - -- gentux echo hfouvyyAhnbjm/dpn | perl -pe 's/(.)/chr(ord($1)-1)/ge' gentux's gpg fingerprint == 5495 0388 67FF 0B89 1239 D840 4CF0 39E2 18D3 4A9E -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFIEtTTPA54hjTSp4RAp40AJ9EcKTzcJAOdMWl55AN3SSuFlquxwCgtsXx oQ8yWgvuxlHRtTk7xxsV55M= =AwZY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remote desktop to WinXP from Gentoo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 gentuxx wrote: Mick wrote: Hi All, I want to access remotely my father in law's laptop which is running WinXP to help him out with his IT problems. I assumed that krdc will do just that, but all it does is to ask me for the password for my kdewallet and then it fails. The error message tells me something about ensuring that remote desktop is properly installed. :-( Is there somewhere a How-to for me to follow, to be able to connect to a remote default installation WinXP PC, with no physical access to it, from my Gentoo machine? Failing a How-to, how do you do it? Mick, You first mentioned krdc, I use this all the time. I *do* use it with VNC, but had often wondered if it was possible to use the native RDC feature in WinXP. So, when you posed your question, I took a quick look. If you want to use RDP as opposed to VNC, you must specify this in the address of the host to which you are connecting, like so: rdp:/mydadsbox.some.isp.com This should get you going. You can also bypass kdewallet by de-selecting that option in the Preferences. Cheers. I forgot to state the obvious, in that, the ability to RDP needs to be enabled on the target WinXP box. So, in System Properties, go to the Remote tab, make sure Allow users to connect to this computer, select the appropriate users, and click OK. HTH. - -- gentux echo hfouvyyAhnbjm/dpn | perl -pe 's/(.)/chr(ord($1)-1)/ge' gentux's gpg fingerprint == 5495 0388 67FF 0B89 1239 D840 4CF0 39E2 18D3 4A9E -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFIE38TPA54hjTSp4RArtyAJ92wbqUGSspp9ES6IwwlNHfXO9lCwCg3Wx6 i1qF6LO5emV3MEeIPLtRF20= =p7+z -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Possible new gentoo user
Thanks to everyone who responded to my post. I will give gentoo a try to see how it goes. I remember my first attempt at switching from redhat 5.1 to SuSE 6.2 many years ago. Although linux is linux, the different distributions implement and configure the software in their own manner. Terry BTW: Not that it matters but my first experience with linux was around 1994 using Slackware 1.2.0. Back then it was common to configure and compile the kernel for sound. Linux has come a long ways and in a way I'm looking forward to getting my hands dirty like in the old days. -- SUSE LINUX 10.0 (i586) -- 2.6.13-15.12-default -- Sun 10/01/06 8:00pm up 23:53, 4 users, load average: 0.35, 0.28, 0.27 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Flash Plugin Grey Screen
On 10/1/06, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Crute wrote: On 9/30/06, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only problem is that all I see is a big grey block where the Flash presentation should be. Any ideas? 1) Have tried to start your browser with the factory settings? E.g. mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-bak and start it. It doesn't matter if it works or not it's only for the test. Then you can revert to your settings by rm -r ~/.mozilla mv ~/.mozilla-bak ~/.mozilla I did try that but it didn't help. 2) Are you sure you are not trying to play a flash version 8? Because AFAIK there is no flash-8 for linux yet. ;-( Hmm... I have tried quite a few sites, I can't imagine ALL of them have spontaneously changed to Flash 8. It seems almost like an X rendering issue. Is there something about Modular X that flash hates? -Mike -- Michael E. Crute http://mike.crute.org The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair. --Douglas Adams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: baselayout-1.12.5 sucks
On Mon, 2006-09-25 at 07:10 -0400, David Relson wrote: On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:58:46 +0200 Remy Blank wrote: Noack, Sebastian wrote: The workaround is to hack /etc/init.d/checkroot to call `dmesg -n 1` on startup, even though in /etc/conf.d/rc is a variable RC_DMESG_LOGLEVEL which is set to 1 by default, but it doesn't affect anything. There is a typo in /etc/conf.d/rc, the variable should be called RC_DMESG_LEVEL (the comment in the file is correct). Shouldn't a typo with conspicuous side effects be fixed by a new release??? I didn't really pay attention to the console I read this thread. Upgraded to 1.12.5-r1 and the change has that typo fixed. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] emerge -D pulling in more than it should these days?!
...and that has what to do with emerge -Davu? --newuse shortcut is -N --newuse (-N short option) Tells emerge to include installed packages where USE flags have changed since installation. -D is deep. -a is ask. -v is verbose. -u is --update (-u short option) Updates packages to the best version available, which may not always be the highest version number due to masking for testing and development. This will also update direct dependencies which may not what you want. In general use this option only in combi- nation with the world or system target. -Original Message- From: Walter Dnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 8:21 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -D pulling in more than it should these days?! On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 02:15:04PM -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote Something has changed recently with 'emerge'. Whenever I use the -D option, which I am pretty much in the habbit of typing 'emerge -Dav' or 'emerge -Davu world/system', I notice it pulling in more stuff than it should. It never acted like this before. It's only been within the past few weeks. On an older Gentoo server (which I don't upgrade nearly as often as my notebook above) it doesn't exhibit this behaviour. I've got ELOG enabled, so let's cd to that directory... cd /var/log/portage/elog/ Now let's see what messages we have from portage... $ ls -1 | grep sys-apps:portage sys-apps:portage-2.1.1:20060916-110813.log OK, file sys-apps:portage-2.1.1:20060916-110813.log looks interesting; wonder what it says... == $ cat sys-apps:portage-2.1.1:20060916-110813.log LOG: postinst See NEWS and RELEASE-NOTES for further changes. For help with using portage please consult the Gentoo Handbook at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3 WARN: postinst In portage-2.1.1, emerge --newuse is now sensitive to changes in IUSE. Immediately after upgrade from 2.1, users may notice a significantly larger number of packages pulled in by --newuse, but that behavior is normal. For additional information regarding this change, please see bugs #116955, #144333, #144661, and #146060. == That pretty well sums it up. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Portage parenthesis
Could someone tell me why certain USE flags that should be enabled in ebuilds are not and have parenthesis around them instead? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] amd64 install from x86 livecd?
On 10/1/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 02 October 2006 00:07, Ryan Sims wrote: There are a couple liveCDs in the forums for booting boards with the tricky JMicron goodness, but the one that seems to have the best shot at booting correctly is an x86-based livecd. If I boot from that, use it to setup my partitions and so on, but use an amd64 stage from the internet, will I be able to complete an amd64 install? Or will things get too confused to compile? A 32 bit kernel cannot run 64 bit code. Use an amd64-based livecd instead. -- Bo Andresen [forehead smack] Bloody hell. And if I'd've been thinking straight, that would've occured to me. Mea culpa. -- Ryan W Sims -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage parenthesis
Grant wrote: Could someone tell me why certain USE flags that should be enabled in ebuilds are not and have parenthesis around them instead? - Grant The parentheses denote flags that are masked by your profile, e.g. selinux is only available on the selinux profile. Some hardware-specific flags have this as well, e.g. altivec is masked on non-ppc profiles. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage parenthesis
On Sunday 01 October 2006 22:36, Ryan Tandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Portage parenthesis': The parentheses denote flags that are masked by your profile, e.g. selinux is only available on the selinux profile. Some hardware-specific flags have this as well, e.g. altivec is masked on non-ppc profiles. Also, while in those examples, the masked flag is forced OFF, flags can also be forced ON by the profile, e.g. the multilib flag. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh pgpr90xR5b3sK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage parenthesis
On Monday 02 October 2006 05:20, Grant wrote: Could someone tell me why certain USE flags that should be enabled in ebuilds are not and have parenthesis around them instead? As you can read in `man emerge` it may mean one of three things. Either it's forced on, masked off or removed since the last time you installed the package in question. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144661#c7 -- Bo Andresen pgpy1UGXzBHzG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -D pulling in more than it should these days?!
Reordering for readability. Please don't toppost... On Monday 02 October 2006 05:14, Daevid Vincent wrote: From: Walter Dnes: [SNIP] WARN: postinst In portage-2.1.1, emerge --newuse is now sensitive to changes in IUSE. [SNIP] ...and that has what to do with emerge -Davu? [SNIP] Obviously nothing. Walter Dnes is pointing at the changes that occurred between portage-2.1-r1 and 2.1.1 (which aren't what you're complaining about) yet still noticeable changes. Anyway, the portage-2.1.2 tracker bug [1] shows you the differences between portage-2.1.1 and the latest 2.1.2 prerelease. Also a comment from zmedico (the portage dev who is providing us with all of these new features and fixes) [2] clearly shows that the change is intended. I believe that should answer your questions. You, however, haven't answered mine. What did you think it should do with --deep without --update? [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=147007 [2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149527#c4 -- Bo Andresen pgpvldXe7Topy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] DHClient Woes - No Modules Loaded?
On Sunday 01 October 2006 13:48, Jan-Hendrik Zab wrote: On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 11:44:42 -0700 Lord Sauron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Proof: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep -nr dhclient ./archival [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ I have been getting annoyed at dhcpcd, which will take 180 seconds to ping even if there isn't a networking cable in my NIC. I use a laptop, so you can easily speculate how I got so annoyed. I know that Kubuntu had the ability to detect whether there was a cable in my laptop and ping accordingly. I looked at my Kubuntu workstation and found that it's using dhclient. I installed dhcpd on my laptop and tried my best to make it work. I got the following: [snip] Well, maybe I just misunderstood you, anyway... You could try pump (the fastest/best dhcp client I know of :-) and ifplug, the latter starts the wired ethernet interfaces when they get a link. Back with DHCPCD, but I haven't unmerged dhclient yet ; ) I'm going to take your word and try ifplug, however, I installed it and it doesn't work. Still pings up /dev/null for all it's doing. I even went to rc-update and had it start at boot, though that didn't work. My guess is that it's trying to use net.lo (the loopback device) and thinks that that's plugged in therefore it tries to ping on everything else. Any suggestions? PPS. The iface_eth interface is completely out of date, take a _very_ good look at `/etc/conf.d/net.example'. I did, I updated it as best I could. -- http://lordsauronthegreat.googlepages.com/ pgpaqpXJJj26S.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] DHClient Woes - No Modules Loaded?
Lord Sauron wrote: On Sunday 01 October 2006 13:48, Jan-Hendrik Zab wrote: PPS. The iface_eth interface is completely out of date, take a _very_ good look at `/etc/conf.d/net.example'. I did, I updated it as best I could. Well, could we take a look at it? $ grep -v '^#' /etc/conf.d/net -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] pygame, framebuffer SDL_SysWMinfo has no member named 'info'
Hello everybody ! I was going to install a Gentoo box without X (framebuffer only) + Freevo. Pygame is needed by the ebuild, but no way to install: here is the log: -- ... In file included from /usr/include/python2.4/Python.h:13, from src/pygame.h:57, from src/display.c:27: /usr/include/python2.4/pyconfig.h:826:1: warning: _GNU_SOURCE redefined command line:1:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition src/display.c: In function 'get_wm_info': src/display.c:388: error: 'SDL_SysWMinfo' has no member named 'info' src/display.c:389: error: 'SDL_SysWMinfo' has no member named 'info' src/display.c:390: error: 'SDL_SysWMinfo' has no member named 'info' src/display.c:391: error: 'SDL_SysWMinfo' has no member named 'info' src/display.c:392: error: 'SDL_SysWMinfo' has no member named 'info' src/display.c:393: error: 'SDL_SysWMinfo' has no member named 'info' error: command 'i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc' failed with exit status 1 !!! ERROR: dev-python/pygame-1.6.2 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1546: Called dyn_compile ebuild.sh, line 937: Called src_compile ebuild.sh, line 1255: Called distutils_src_compile distutils.eclass, line 38: Called die -- here my make.conf USE flags: -- USE=fbcon joystick reiser4 reiserfs sdl sdl-sound -ipv6 -xorg -- -- any help? Stefano -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DHClient Woes - No Modules Loaded?
On Sunday 01 October 2006 21:56, Ryan Tandy wrote: Lord Sauron wrote: On Sunday 01 October 2006 13:48, Jan-Hendrik Zab wrote: PPS. The iface_eth interface is completely out of date, take a _very_ good look at `/etc/conf.d/net.example'. I did, I updated it as best I could. Well, could we take a look at it? $ grep -v '^#' /etc/conf.d/net modules_eth0=( dhcpcd ) iface_eth0=( dhcpcd ) config_eth0=( dhcp ) Not exactly sure if it's totally right, however, it doesn't give me an error message, though I suspect I'm really close to getting one ; ) Hazarding a guess as to what would get ifplugd to work: modules_eth0=( dhcpcd, ifplug ) # or ifplugd, I don't really know # which Thanks for your time! -- http://lordsauronthegreat.googlepages.com/ pgpheBvn69Ofb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage parenthesis
On Monday 02 October 2006 07:01, Grant wrote: Could someone tell me why certain USE flags that should be enabled in ebuilds are not and have parenthesis around them instead? As you can read in `man emerge` it may mean one of three things. Either it's forced on, masked off or removed since the last time you installed the package in question. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144661#c7 Why would flags like mmx, mmxext, sse, and sse2 be masked from mplayer for me? /etc/make.profile - /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2006.1/desktop I'm not sure why the use flags are masked. But the mplayer ebuild does pretend they were enabled (this was done long before use.force came into existance). http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76071 -- Bo Andresen pgpWKvDyTwe75.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage parenthesis
On Monday 02 October 2006 07:30, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: Why would flags like mmx, mmxext, sse, and sse2 be masked from mplayer for me? /etc/make.profile - /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2006.1/desktop I'm not sure why the use flags are masked. Heh, and then I found it... http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104674 -- Bo Andresen pgpTeINp4V5Dw.pgp Description: PGP signature
