Re: [gentoo-user] GTK fonts uglified after update
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:13:25 -0800, Shaw Vrana wrote: I would like to get a list of the packages most recently emerged. Use genlop with the --list and --date arguments. --date lets you specify a start date and an optional end date for the list, e.g. genlop --list --date yesterday genlop --list --date last sunday last tuesday -- Neil Bothwick What this country needs is a good five-cent microcomputer. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] GTK fonts uglified after update
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 12:13 am, Shaw Vrana wrote: I just performed an emerge -Du world and found that the fonts in the few gtk apps that I use (gaim and wireshark) have now become quite ugly. I followed the wiki at http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xorg_and_Fonts to beautify a while back and the changes I made there have remained intact through the update. Are you running KDE with the gtk-qt theme engine? If so, I had a similar problem with fonts no longer being anti-aliased in gaim. I found the solution on this page: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=9714 Basically you need to change your General font setting in the control center. Once you make a change (any change) you can change it back to how you had it originally. Once you restart your gtk applications the fonts should be aliased again. There is no explanation for why this works, but it resolved the issue for me. Hope that helps. Thanks, Shaw - Ben -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GTK fonts uglified after update
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 09:54:16AM -0500, Ben Kelly wrote: On Wednesday 29 November 2006 12:13 am, Shaw Vrana wrote: I just performed an emerge -Du world and found that the fonts in the few gtk apps that I use (gaim and wireshark) have now become quite ugly. I followed the wiki at http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xorg_and_Fonts to beautify a while back and the changes I made there have remained intact through the update. Are you running KDE with the gtk-qt theme engine? If so, I had a similar problem with fonts no longer being anti-aliased in gaim. I found the solution on this page: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=9714 Basically you need to change your General font setting in the control center. Once you make a change (any change) you can change it back to how you had it originally. Once you restart your gtk applications the fonts should be aliased again. There is no explanation for why this works, but it resolved the issue for me. Wow, you're right, that fixed it! But I'm using the Crystal SVG theme. I wonder what causes this nastiness? I'll hunt around for an appropriate KDE mailing list and report it there. Thank you! Shaw -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT] SATA II Hard Drive problems - revisited...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hello Everyone, I thought I'd give an update on my hard drive situation. By using hdparm -I, rather than hdparm -i, I was able to find out that my hard drive is operating in UDMA6 mode in Gentoo. It is operating in PIO mode in windows, and I can't seem to find a solution for this problem. I have discovered that the problem is somewhere in the registry, but I cannot find it. I am thinking that I am going to have to use the rescue disc to go back to factory settings. Or I suppose I could rid myself of the windows virus once and for all... Thanks to all who tried to help. Regards, Chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFFbaymUx1jS/ORyCsRCIZTAKCLPuxH50awt3kzp2QEWZnQnaq64gCgjvFD s6teWBM3kBVmo34Lclq6P9Q= =kVPb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] SATA II Hard Drive problems - revisited...
Chris Walters cjw2004d at comcast.net writes: I thought I'd give an update on my hard drive situation. By using hdparm -I, rather than hdparm -i, I was able to find out that my hard drive is operating in UDMA6 mode in Gentoo. Thanks to all who tried to help. Hello Chris, This is a 'long shot' in the dark, cause I have not read anything about your problem, but, do make sure you check for any 'pc bios' settings. Linux is suppose to ignore bios settings and do it's own thing, but, at least on video ram, I've had to adjust the factory defaults to get max video ram on some systems. I think there are a few bugs floating about with how the linux kernel and the default bios interact. just a wag (wild ass guess) James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Nagios emerge failure
David Corbin gentoo.org at machturtle.com writes: Can someone help me around this problem emerging nagios-core? Hello David, Every try jffnms? Extremely capable network management, the ebuild is stable, and a most excellent install page: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/jffnms.xml hth, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] switching X.org resolution - how ???
On 11/28/06, krgn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh ok, that might be it. I use the open source nvidia driver (nv). But I would expect that to work with it, right? Yeah, it should work, unless you are using the Option Rotate in your xorg.conf, in which case the extension gets disabled. Check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Something like: grep -i randr /var/log/Xorg.0.log -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] switching X.org resolution - how ???
oh ok, that might be it. I use the open source nvidia driver (nv). But I would expect that to work with it, right? k Yup, I use the open source nvidia driver and it works for me. No mention of randr in my xorg.conf file. -Nick pgpDs8p991ymG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev upgrade and non-working eth0
On 11/27/06, Mrugesh Karnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 28 November 2006 07:31, Richard Fish wrote: can see a 75-persistent-net-generator.rules file in there.. Hmm, not sure how I got a 70-persistent-net.rules. There is some interaction between that and 75-persistent-net-generator.rules (and the /lib/udev/write_net_rules script), but I'm a bit too tired to figure it out ATM. It looks like 70-... should be created by the write_net_rules script... RULES_FILE='/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules' That's the first line of write_net_rules. Right. I just wasn't able to figure out why you didn't already have this file created, nor why my laptop had it but not my desktop. So the story is that 75-persistent-net-generator.rules will call the script when ethernet devices are added, and it is up to the write_net_rules script to generate 70-persistent-net.rules. The problem is that when udev starts very early in the boot process, your root filesystem may still be mounted read-only, preventing this file from being created. This worked on my laptop, because I added module aliases to prevent udev from coldplugging the ipw3945 driver, since it requires a daemon to be running in order to work and that required /var to be mounted. The module is loaded later in the boot process, after all of the filesystems are mounted read-write, and that allowed udev to create the rules file for me, but only for that adapter. The upshot of this is this: by far the easiest way to solve the net-naming problem is to run /lib/udev/write_net_rules all_interfaces This will generate the rules for all interfaces, and then you can just edit the file to change the names as you like. So I guess I'll know that for the next person that asks. :-P -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Upgrading tetex, not finding crti.o
Hi, I am trying to upgrade teTex using `emerge -pvuD tetex'. The compiling process aborts with an error message saying that this file could not be found: /usr/lib/gcc/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/../../../crti.o Yes, this is /usr/lib/crti.o and it is present. As well present is /usr/lib/gcc/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.6/../../../crti.o ^ How can I tell the ebuild that my compiler is version 3.4.6? Thanks in advance. Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Using a remote DVD writer
On Tuesday 28 November 2006 23:10, Daniel Iliev wrote: Mick wrote: Hi All, My laptop does not have a DVD writer, only a DVD/CD player. On the other hand, my desktop has the works. Other than booting the desktop in Gentoo and burning DVDs directly, is there a way to use it remotely from my laptop? Can I define in K3B my desktop's DVD drive(s)? How can I set this up for a LAN connection? While at it, is there a way to achieve this at all when the desktop is not running Gentoo, but WinXP? PS. I do not currently have SAMBA configured on either box. I think these two command chains should work: mkisofs -opt1 -opt2 -optN /files/for/burning | \ ssh desktop cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc -driveropts=burnfree - ---for CDs mkisofs -opt1 -opt2 -optN /files/for/burning | \ ssh desktop growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=/dev/fd/0 ---for DVDs If you decide to try the above commands, please, do it with *RW media* first, because I haven't tested them. Thanks for all suggestions. Daniel's idea seems to be closer to what I was looking for (I do not have Java installed on either box, although I could run Knoppix on the CD writer machine). Only I have no idea what the options should be to copy a DVD - I guess an iso image of the original? I'll need to go through that man page a few times, unless you can suggest an appropriate string of options. PS. When I used the k3b gui with default settings to copy a WinXP directory to a DVD it capitalised all filenames and substituted most characters like , spaces, etc with _. I assume that this is because it applied Jolliet standard. How should I set it in K3B to get all the file name characters copied over intact? How would I do this in mkisofs, too? -- Regards, Mick pgp7jnVSTCH4r.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev upgrade and non-working eth0
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 17:33, Richard Fish wrote:
On 11/27/06, Mrugesh Karnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 28 November 2006 07:31, Richard Fish wrote:
can see a 75-persistent-net-generator.rules file in there..
Hmm, not sure how I got a 70-persistent-net.rules. There is some
interaction between that and 75-persistent-net-generator.rules (and
the /lib/udev/write_net_rules script), but I'm a bit too tired to
figure it out ATM. It looks like 70-... should be created by the
write_net_rules script...
RULES_FILE='/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules'
That's the first line of write_net_rules.
Right. I just wasn't able to figure out why you didn't already have
this file created, nor why my laptop had it but not my desktop.
So the story is that 75-persistent-net-generator.rules will call the
script when ethernet devices are added, and it is up to the
write_net_rules script to generate 70-persistent-net.rules. The
problem is that when udev starts very early in the boot process, your
root filesystem may still be mounted read-only, preventing this file
from being created.
This worked on my laptop, because I added module aliases to prevent
udev from coldplugging the ipw3945 driver, since it requires a daemon
to be running in order to work and that required /var to be mounted.
The module is loaded later in the boot process, after all of the
filesystems are mounted read-write, and that allowed udev to create
the rules file for me, but only for that adapter.
The upshot of this is this: by far the easiest way to solve the
net-naming problem is to run
/lib/udev/write_net_rules all_interfaces
This will generate the rules for all interfaces, and then you can just
edit the file to change the names as you like. So I guess I'll know
that for the next person that asks. :-P
Not sure if/how it is related to the OP, but this is what was created in
my /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules:
=
# USB device 0x050d:0x7050 (rt2500usb)
SUBSYSTEM==net, DRIVERS==?*, ATTRS{address}==00:11:50:18:55:3f,
ATTRS{type}==1, NAME=wlan0
=
However, if I boot with the USB WiFi adaptor plugged in it, the device is not
being detected. If I plug it in after the system has booted then there is no
problem. The USB devices are 'udev-plugged' relatively late in the boot
process, well after udevd has started. Therefore I cannot understand why
this adaptor is not being detected. Any ideas?
--
Regards,
Mick
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Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading tetex, not finding crti.o
Hi Randy, Am Mittwoch, 29. Nov 2006, 13:55:14 -0500 schrieb Randy Barlow: fix_libtool_files.sh 3.4.5 That should do the trick :) Sorry, it seems it doesn't. What kind of tool is that? Bertram Bertram Scharpf wrote: I am trying to upgrade teTex using `emerge -pvuD tetex'. The compiling process aborts with an error message saying that this file could not be found: /usr/lib/gcc/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/../../../crti.o [...] present is /usr/lib/gcc/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.6/../../../crti.o ^ How can I tell the ebuild that my compiler is version 3.4.6? -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading tetex, not finding crti.o
On 11/29/06, Bertram Scharpf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am trying to upgrade teTex using `emerge -pvuD tetex'. The compiling process aborts with an error message saying that this file could not be found: /usr/lib/gcc/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/../../../crti.o Can you post your emerge --info, and the everything between the make command that caused this error to the end of the emerge output. The last 20-30 lines of build output should suffice if you can identify the make command that caused the problem. Thanks, -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading tetex, not finding crti.o
Bertram Scharpf wrote: Sorry, it seems it doesn't. What kind of tool is that? Hmm, I actually don't know all that much about it, but it mentions it here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml and I've been advised to use it for a similar problem before. Have a look at http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73435 Specifically, try re-emerging libtool and see if that fixes your problem. If not, try fix_libtool_files.sh after re-emerging libtool. If not, submit a bug? Randy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] browser advice
I'm about to dump Firefox, because I can't google in English. The thing doesn't let me choose the language, and I'm tired of getting useless Brazilian links. Yes, I know about the settings, I already deleted the google.pt cookie, but it's no use. I don't know, nor care, whose fault it is (Google's, firefox's or mine, for not having telepathic gifts), I just won't let anyone choose for me. So, the point is: what browser now? Firefox is the one more often mentioned in this list. How about Konqueror or Opera? The latter is hardly ever mentioned. Is there some special reason for this? For example, is it activelly maintained? Is it missing some particular feature? It looks nice enough, but is there some catch? And Konqueror? I already use KDE, so that's not an issue. I would appreciate your opinions. -- Jorge Almeida -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
On 11/29/06, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, the point is: what browser now? IMO konqueror rocks. The split-window browsing feature is something that every other browser should adopt _now_! But there are still sites that don't fully support it, so I keep firefox/bon echo around for those. A nice thing in konqueror is that you can right-click on any link and open it in firefox, opera, or whatever. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Using a remote DVD writer
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:53:39 +, Mick wrote: Thanks for all suggestions. Daniel's idea seems to be closer to what I was looking for (I do not have Java installed on either box, although I could run Knoppix on the CD writer machine). Only I have no idea what the options should be to copy a DVD - I guess an iso image of the original? I'll need to go through that man page a few times, unless you can suggest an appropriate string of options. As you're already familiar to K3b, why not use that to build the ISO image (tick the Only Create image box). Then transfer it to the other computer to burn it to DVD. -- Neil Bothwick People who eat natural foods die from natural causes. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 22:00, Jorge Almeida wrote: I'm about to dump Firefox, because I can't google in English. The thing doesn't let me choose the language, and I'm tired of getting useless Brazilian links. Yes, I know about the settings, I already deleted the google.pt cookie, but it's no use. I'm not sure I get this right. Did you choose english in the Languages section in the Advanced Options? http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/options#advanced -- Bo Andresen pgpFNNTcor7or.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
Jorge Almeida schrieb: I'm about to dump Firefox, because I can't google in English. The thing doesn't let me choose the language, and I'm tired of getting useless Brazilian links. Ever tried to type site:uk or site:us after the search-phrase? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
On 11/29/06, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm about to dump Firefox, because I can't google in English. The thing doesn't let me choose the language, and I'm tired of getting useless Brazilian links. Yes, I know about the settings, I already deleted the google.pt cookie, but it's no use. I don't know, nor care, whose fault it is (Google's, firefox's or mine, for not having telepathic gifts), I just won't let anyone choose for me. Have you tried the Google in English link at the bottom of the page? I just tried it and it returned in English at the same session after closing the page. As firefox mantains your session, I believe its a solution. I have no brazilian links when I search for English words (at least not at the top of the list). So, the point is: what browser now? Firefox is the one more often mentioned in this list. How about Konqueror or Opera? The latter is hardly ever mentioned. Is there some special reason for this? For example, is it activelly maintained? Is it missing some particular feature? It looks nice enough, but is there some catch? And Konqueror? I already use KDE, so that's not an issue. I use firefox all the time, but Konqueror is fine, so is Opera, never benchmarked any of those neither tried different pages, but I like Opera because I used to run it on Windows few years ago. -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Wednesday 29 November 2006 22:00, Jorge Almeida wrote: I'm about to dump Firefox, because I can't google in English. The thing doesn't let me choose the language, and I'm tired of getting useless Brazilian links. Yes, I know about the settings, I already deleted the google.pt cookie, but it's no use. I'm not sure I get this right. Did you choose english in the Languages section in the Advanced Options? http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/options#advanced Yes. There are two languages there: English-US and English (en). No Portuguese. I tried everything. With Google preferences, too. Now I'm ready to move on. Enough is enough. (I find this behaviour offensive. I might be a foreigner living in Portugal without knowing a word of Portuguese. This didn't happen with Mozilla. I started using Firefox when Mozilla was deprecated---I don't know whether I got this right.) Thanks. -- Jorge Almeida
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] SATA II Hard Drive problems - revisited...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 James wrote: Chris Walters cjw2004d at comcast.net writes: I thought I'd give an update on my hard drive situation. By using hdparm -I, rather than hdparm -i, I was able to find out that my hard drive is operating in UDMA6 mode in Gentoo. Thanks to all who tried to help. Hello Chris, This is a 'long shot' in the dark, cause I have not read anything about your problem, but, do make sure you check for any 'pc bios' settings. Linux is suppose to ignore bios settings and do it's own thing, but, at least on video ram, I've had to adjust the factory defaults to get max video ram on some systems. I think there are a few bugs floating about with how the linux kernel and the default bios interact. just a wag (wild ass guess) James Hello James, Well, since this this thing is nearly brand new, and UDMA worked in Windows until some time after I installed Gentoo (I don't think Gentoo had anything to do with it), I doubted it was the BIOS - I checked anyway. Everything that should be enabled is set correctly. I am certain that it is a Windows problem - probably from some software I installed. Anyway, thanks for the advice. Regards, Chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFFbf9zUx1jS/ORyCsRCE4MAJsERM0mmcMTZFMTogmx5rij5OsLbACeNxLS XrYbOCr5GpRcFWP5bA0LZD8= =LF70 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Hans de Hartog wrote: Just to stay close to what you're used to: how about good old mozilla? That's something that isn't clear to me: Is Mozilla still actively maintained? If so, what's the rationale for Firefox? I changed to Firefox because I assumed Mozilla was going to disappear... And why all the fuss about Firefox? But, I think if you put a little more effort in Firefox, I guess you can easily get rid of the annoying behavior (delete all the cookies, history, cache, .mozilla/firefox, maybe re-emerge). I don't want to lose customizations. That's something I really hate. As for re-emerging, that's been done more than once, when an upgrade is available. (The problem is with me for too long!) -- Jorge Almeida -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I set my preferences in google to English and it saves them. There is a preferences setting selection that takes you to a page and allows you to set your language. Nope. It just doesn't keep my preferences. -- Jorge Almeida -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 21:08, Richard Fish wrote: On 11/29/06, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, the point is: what browser now? IMO konqueror rocks. The split-window browsing feature is something that every other browser should adopt _now_! But there are still sites that don't fully support it, so I keep firefox/bon echo around for those. A nice thing in konqueror is that you can right-click on any link and open it in firefox, opera, or whatever. How do you use the split window feature for browsing (as opposed to file manager actions)? -- Regards, Mick pgpsJ0eyCCidh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Fabian Hackhofer wrote: Jorge Almeida schrieb: I'm about to dump Firefox, because I can't google in English. The thing doesn't let me choose the language, and I'm tired of getting useless Brazilian links. Ever tried to type site:uk or site:us after the search-phrase? No, didn't know about that. But it just shouldn't be necessary... -- Jorge Almeida -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Richard Fish wrote: IMO konqueror rocks. The split-window browsing feature is something that every other browser should adopt _now_! But there are still sites that don't fully support it, so I keep firefox/bon echo around for those. A nice thing in konqueror is that you can right-click on any link and open it in firefox, opera, or whatever. I already had Konqueror installed, although I'm using split ebuilds, not a full KDE install. It's always good to have more than one browser. It all depends on which browser can be better customized to my taste... Jorge -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 22:46, Jorge Almeida wrote: On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Hans de Hartog wrote: Just to stay close to what you're used to: how about good old mozilla? That's something that isn't clear to me: Is Mozilla still actively maintained? If so, what's the rationale for Firefox? I changed to Firefox because I assumed Mozilla was going to disappear... And why all the fuss about Firefox? fuss?? What's your LINGUAS set to? `emerge -vp mozilla-firefox` if in doubt? Also did you try the Google.com in English link? It's stored for me. (Perhaps it would help if you provided a link to the result page with useless brazilian links...) Either way. The alternatives for X that I'm aware of are www-client/opera, kde-base/konqueror, www-client/seamonkey and www-client/epiphany. Seamonkey is the actively maintained replacement for Mozilla. Firefox was supposed to be a lightweight Mozilla that only does browsing as opposed to browsing, mailing, irc, calendar... I'd say they failed a bit with the lightweight bit. Hopefully it'll get better... Personally I'm using firefox because I haven't figured out how to get any of the others to behave like I want them to. Konqueror, Epiphany and Opera are all a lot faster than Firefox though. Seamonkey I don't know about since I never really liked it. -- Bo Andresen pgpASePz9NTTT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Power supply with no -5v rail?
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 22:08, Mike Huber wrote: By rail you mean a connection to the motherboard right? The power supply itself has a 5v rail, which is delivered to the drives. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's my understanding. there is 5V and there is -5V. 5V is needed for io stuff (like the drives), -5V was used for the ISA slots. When the ATX standard was created, one of the 20pins/21cables was -5V. Since -5V is not needed anymore, it was dropped some time ago. The connector is still 20pins 'wide', but one of them is empty. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 22:50, Randy Barlow wrote: Richard Fish wrote: IMO konqueror rocks. The split-window browsing feature is something that every other browser should adopt _now_! But there are still sites that don't fully support it, so I keep firefox/bon echo around for those. A nice thing in konqueror is that you can right-click on any link and open it in firefox, opera, or whatever. Hey Richard - is it easy to get Flash to work with Konqueror? From the instructions on the Adobe site, I was under the impression that it was only for Mozilla based browsers. konqueror can use every netscape-style plugin (like flash). So it can use adobe's flash. It can also play flash movies with kmplayer+mplayer AND it can make use of nspluginwrapper. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
Jorge Almeida wrote: I'm about to dump Firefox, because I can't google in English. The thing doesn't let me choose the language, and I'm tired of getting useless Brazilian links. Yes, I know about the settings, I already deleted the google.pt cookie, but it's no use. I don't know, nor care, whose fault it is (Google's, firefox's or mine, for not having telepathic gifts), I just won't let anyone choose for me. So, the point is: what browser now? Firefox is the one more often mentioned in this list. How about Konqueror or Opera? The latter is hardly ever mentioned. Is there some special reason for this? For example, is it activelly maintained? Is it missing some particular feature? It looks nice enough, but is there some catch? And Konqueror? I already use KDE, so that's not an issue. I would appreciate your opinions. You could also try Seamonkey [1] which is closer replacement of Mozilla than Firefox. It is an all-in-one solution just like Mozilla (web browser, e-mail client, HTML composer, IRC client). It can be found in portage. [1] http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ P.S. Have you set Firefox to clean your private information (and especially cookies) at exit? If so, the behavior you describe is normal, because your preferences for google are stored by cookies. -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] browser advice
Steve Dibb wrote: From what I understand, development of the Mozilla suite has stopped. Seamonkey is the old Mozilla-style suite of packages, but the backend is the newer Firefox / Thunderbird code. Steve I don't think so. I believe seamonkey is based on the code of Mozilla Application Suite. At least it's what the site of the project reads: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, Daniel Iliev wrote: You could also try Seamonkey [1] which is closer replacement of Mozilla than Firefox. It is an all-in-one solution just like Mozilla (web browser, e-mail client, HTML composer, IRC client). It can be found in portage. I'll take a look at it. I really just need the browser part (maybe the composer too). [1] http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ P.S. Have you set Firefox to clean your private information (and especially cookies) at exit? If so, the behavior you describe is normal, because your preferences for google are stored by cookies. No, and I checked that there are cookies after exiting FF. The file cookies.txt shows google.com but not google.pt. Thanks, Jorge Almeida -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mick wrote: Jorge Almeida schrieb: I'm about to dump Firefox, because I can't google in English. When I change countries I get responses relative to the (geographic) IP that I logon from. Well, for this problem, I use this: http://www.google.com/ncr That's the Google in English permanente link. It redirects you to google.com, after setting the lang to english (by http referer I'm sure). - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - Consultor Independiente en Seguridad Informatica Me caso este 1ro de diciembre: Lista de Casamiento Numero 37520 en todos los FRAVEGA!! :) http://www.buanzo.com.ar | http://www.vivamoslavida.com.ar : Portal no-comercial del buen vivir! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFbg7SAlpOsGhXcE0RAkrjAJ9nJCWT2JNwUogBDzmkFdJ3PT2sqgCfV99F AzsirHZGch3qDtd3UJ1txh8= =7WaL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Corrupt portage cache
On Sunday 26 November 2006 13:33, Fabrice Delliaux wrote: Le Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:41:56 +0100, Harm Geerts a écrit : This only forces portage to retrieve *all* of portage's metadata from the server *again*. Yes. If the corruption is local, a normal rsync will fix this. Not necessarily. See bug #145482. Synchronization again and again (on several days) didn't resolve this. I removed the entire cache, as suggested, and it magically worked. And I discovered later that the filesystem was corrupted. If the corruption is on the upstream rsync mirror, you will retrieve the same corrupt metadata again. I've never seen that case. removing the metadata from the portage tree only results in more data transfers from the rsync mirror. Yes, but obviously, you must not do it every day. @Mick : I suggest that you run a fsck on your filesystem. Thanks. I did run fsck and everything seems fine. However, although emerge --metadata worked, the following emerge --sync failed with the same old error. So, this time I did emerge --regen and when it finished the emerge --sync worked without any more problems. Thanks for all the suggestions. -- Regards, Mick pgpL51Cl8Xlth.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: What's your LINGUAS set to? `emerge -vp mozilla-firefox` if in doubt? Also did [ebuild R ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.8 USE=java xprint -debug -gnome -ipv6 -mozdevelop -moznopango -xinerama LINGUAS=-ar -bg -ca -cs -da -de -el -en_GB -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -ga -ga_IE -gu_IN -he -hu -it -ja -ko -lt -mk -nb -nb_NO -nl -pa_IN -pl -pt_BR -ro -ru -sk -sl -sv -sv_SE -tr -zh_CN -zh_TW 0 kB you try the Google.com in English link? It's stored for me. (Perhaps it If you mean the link www.google.com, I can't use it, because it is redirected to www.google.pt. would help if you provided a link to the result page with useless brazilian links...) Never mind. I'm done with FF. What I was asking for was feedback about the other browsers. Either way. The alternatives for X that I'm aware of are www-client/opera, kde-base/konqueror, www-client/seamonkey and www-client/epiphany. Seamonkey is the actively maintained replacement for Mozilla. Firefox was supposed to be a lightweight Mozilla that only does browsing as opposed to browsing, mailing, irc, calendar... I'd say they failed a bit with the lightweight bit. Hopefully it'll get better... I remember that in Mozilla I could press a letter key and it would go to the next link mactching that letter. I missed that in FF. On the other hand, I had no use for mailer+calendar etc. Personally I'm using firefox because I haven't figured out how to get any of the others to behave like I want them to. Konqueror, Epiphany and Opera are all a lot faster than Firefox though. Seamonkey I don't know about since I OK, it's good to know. Epiphany is not a good choice for me, because I would have to install a lot of gnome dependencies. Thank you. -- Jorge Almeida
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote: When I change countries I get responses relative to the (geographic) IP that I logon from. Well, for this problem, I use this: http://www.google.com/ncr That's the Google in English permanente link. It redirects you to google.com, after setting the lang to english (by http referer I'm sure). Thank you! -- Jorge Almeida -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:00:06 + (WET) Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm about to dump Firefox, because I can't google in English. The thing So, the point is: what browser now? Firefox is the one more often mentioned in this list. How about Konqueror or Opera? The latter is hardly ever mentioned. Is there some special reason for this? For example, is it activelly maintained? Is it missing some particular feature? It looks nice enough, but is there some catch? Another vote for Opera here. I'm running 9.02 at home. A few observations from my set-up, although they could be as much to do me having not got something else in my configuration right ... 1) This version of Opera really seems to struggle with heavy pages. The whole app slows down, no response to clicks etc, until the page has fully rendered. Example of affected page: http://funds.ft.com/funds/searchFund.do?symb=AQSTGtype=F1 2) Opera infrequently causes my system to hang completely. I can't ctrl +alt+F1 to a terminal screen, I can ctrl+alt+backspace to kill X, I can't do anything. It's a hard reboot of the box. Admittedly I'm slightly impatient, but I give it 10 secs before hitting reset, sometimes longer. I can't categorically state that it's Opera, but I've a very strong suspicion. Especially given that I basically use an xterm, sylpheed and opera 95% of the time. 3) Javascript seems fairly broken in Opera - but that could be my fault for not setting something up properly. 4) Some pages just don't render properly in Opera and I have occasion to fall back to firefox. As another poster said, it's often badly designed banking sites. 5) Overall though, IMO Opera is a nicer browser to use than firefox. Tabbed browsing is implemented in a more effective fashion. Keyboard shortcuts are lovely, eg F2 to bring a dialog for typing a URL, which can be configured to fire up a new tab is very nice. Shift+F2 allows you to have a one key shortcut for favourite bookmarks (again firing up a new tab). Sidebar is far more effective in Opera. Obviously personal preference, but I much prefer it. Regards, David -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
I think SeaMonkey is the whole Suite now. From: Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/11/29 Wed PM 04:46:42 EST To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Hans de Hartog wrote: Just to stay close to what you're used to: how about good old mozilla? That's something that isn't clear to me: Is Mozilla still actively maintained? If so, what's the rationale for Firefox? I changed to Firefox because I assumed Mozilla was going to disappear... And why all the fuss about Firefox? But, I think if you put a little more effort in Firefox, I guess you can easily get rid of the annoying behavior (delete all the cookies, history, cache, .mozilla/firefox, maybe re-emerge). I don't want to lose customizations. That's something I really hate. As for re-emerging, that's been done more than once, when an upgrade is available. (The problem is with me for too long!) -- Jorge Almeida -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
061129 Jorge Almeida wrote: what browser ? Firefox is the one more often mentioned in this list. How about Konqueror or Opera? The latter is hardly ever mentioned. I have been a happy user of Epiphany for some time: it's fast, lacks the complexity of Firefox has a nice tab menu; I compile it with the Seamonkey engine. Generally, I'm a KDE fan, but Epiphany is one of Gnome's successes. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
What's your LINGUAS set to? `emerge -vp mozilla-firefox` if in doubt? Also did [ebuild R ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.8 USE=java xprint -debug -gnome -ipv6 -mozdevelop -moznopango -xinerama LINGUAS=-ar -bg -ca -cs -da -de -el -en_GB -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -ga -ga_IE -gu_IN -he -hu -it -ja -ko -lt -mk -nb -nb_NO -nl -pa_IN -pl *-pt_BR* -ro -ru -sk -sl -sv -sv_SE -tr -zh_CN -zh_TW 0 kB Hey, your LINGUAS is set to -pt_BR. You should have pt_BR instead. ___ Novidade no Yahoo! Mail: receba alertas de novas mensagens no seu celular. Registre seu aparelho agora! http://br.mobile.yahoo.com/mailalertas/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 15:00, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] browser advice': I'm about to dump Firefox, because I can't google in English. I don't know, nor care, whose fault it is (Google's, firefox's or mine, for not having telepathic gifts), I just won't let anyone choose for me. Well, if it's not firefox's fault, switching to a new browser may not help. So, the point is: what browser now? I use Konqueror near exclusively; Bon Echo (non-Mozilla-branded Firefox 2.x) is reserved for site whose javascript is not supported in Konqueror. It (Konqueror) even has the ability to use 32-bit plugins in a 64-bit browser. If you use other kde application you'll enjoy the loosely-coupled but tight integration, like adding RSS feeds to aKregator from Konqueror. I was an avid Opera user before I switched to Linux. It's an integrated browser along the lines of Mozilla or Seamonkey, containing (at least) a mail and new client in addition to the browser. IME, it was able to handle anything sort of ActiveX (that is, everything Firefox can), but occasionally you'd have to change your browser identification string to something more IE-like or FF-like to convince the webserver to give you the correct page. (Google for: opera oprah microsoft) I was a fan of their support newsgroup, it taught me a lot of little tips and tricks (ala Firefox's about:config stuff) that ended up making my browser experience uniquely mine. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh pgp5RXusUel0D.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: browser advice
Another vote for Opera here. I'm running 9.02 at home. A few observations from my set-up, although they could be as much to do me having not got something else in my configuration right ... And another strong Opera vote here :-) 1) This version of Opera really seems to struggle with heavy pages. The whole app slows down, no response to clicks etc, until the page has fully rendered. Example of affected page: http://funds.ft.com/funds/searchFund.do?symb=AQSTGtype=F1 2) Opera infrequently causes my system to hang completely. I can't ctrl +alt+F1 to a terminal screen, I can ctrl+alt+backspace to kill X, I can't do anything. It's a hard reboot of the box. Admittedly I'm slightly impatient, but I give it 10 secs before hitting reset, sometimes longer. I can't categorically state that it's Opera, but I've a very strong suspicion. Especially given that I basically use an xterm, sylpheed and opera 95% of the time. Not had these issues ... sorry. 3) Javascript seems fairly broken in Opera - but that could be my fault for not setting something up properly. JS works great here - perhaps reemerge everything? 4) Some pages just don't render properly in Opera and I have occasion to fall back to firefox. As another poster said, it's often badly designed banking sites. Yep . So I changed banks (earlier bank wanted I.E.). I tell them that if they want my business, they'll get their site to work on Linux/Opera. Present bank got it to work fine (not perfect rendition - but functional). 5) Overall though, IMO Opera is a nicer browser to use than firefox. Tabbed browsing is implemented in a more effective fashion. Keyboard shortcuts are lovely, eg F2 to bring a dialog for typing a URL, which can be configured to fire up a new tab is very nice. Shift+F2 allows you to have a one key shortcut for favourite bookmarks (again firing up a new tab). Sidebar is far more effective in Opera. Obviously personal preference, but I much prefer it. IMHO, Opera loads MUCH faster, and surfs much faster as well. ALSO, it is easy to put Opera in a Chroot Jail; FF is a PITA to put into a jail. Final note is that most FF users seem to have never tried Opera; Most Opera users have tried FF - gotten it to work adequately - and chosen Opera. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jorge Almeida wrote: On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote: That's the Google in English permanente link. It redirects you to google.com, after setting the lang to english (by http referer I'm sure). Thank you! Glad to be of help, always. - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - Consultor Independiente en Seguridad Informatica Me caso este 1ro de diciembre: Lista de Casamiento Numero 37520 en todos los FRAVEGA!! :) http://www.buanzo.com.ar | http://www.vivamoslavida.com.ar : Portal no-comercial del buen vivir! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFbiqQAlpOsGhXcE0RAtDWAJ91KobfQxpLORts9DOngM7U4VW+jwCff2Lp E6axIfMft/7osvlZbtuOxfk= =cDvK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev upgrade and non-working eth0
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 23:03, Richard Fish wrote: The upshot of this is this: by far the easiest way to solve the net-naming problem is to run /lib/udev/write_net_rules all_interfaces This will generate the rules for all interfaces, and then you can just edit the file to change the names as you like. So I guess I'll know that for the next person that asks. :-P Cool, that worked perfectly! I remember seeing an error about write_net_rules not being able to create a file during bootup, twice.. Btw, I really would like to master udev. Good documentation? I can see a couple of links at the bottom of the Gentoo udev guide. Anything else I should be referring to? Thanks a lot btw. :) -- Mrugesh Karnik GPG Key 0xBA6F1DA8 Public key on http://wwwkeys.pgp.net -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
Jorge Almeida wrote: On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Wednesday 29 November 2006 22:00, Jorge Almeida wrote: I'm about to dump Firefox, because I can't google in English. The thing doesn't let me choose the language, and I'm tired of getting useless Brazilian links. Yes, I know about the settings, I already deleted the google.pt cookie, but it's no use. I'm not sure I get this right. Did you choose english in the Languages section in the Advanced Options? http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/options#advanced Yes. There are two languages there: English-US and English (en). No Portuguese. I tried everything. With Google preferences, too. Now I'm ready to move on. Enough is enough. (I find this behaviour offensive. I might be a foreigner living in Portugal without knowing a word of Portuguese. This didn't happen with Mozilla. I started using Firefox when Mozilla was deprecated---I don't know whether I got this right.) Thanks. Try Seamonkey then. I have not had such a problem with it. Dale :-) :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Power supply with no -5v rail?
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Wednesday 29 November 2006 22:08, Mike Huber wrote: By rail you mean a connection to the motherboard right? The power supply itself has a 5v rail, which is delivered to the drives. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's my understanding. there is 5V and there is -5V. 5V is needed for io stuff (like the drives), -5V was used for the ISA slots. When the ATX standard was created, one of the 20pins/21cables was -5V. Since -5V is not needed anymore, it was dropped some time ago. The connector is still 20pins 'wide', but one of them is empty. That's what I figured. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to blow something up here. I sure do like this new power supply though. Thanks Dale :-) :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
On 11/29/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you use the split window feature for browsing (as opposed to file manager actions)? I typically use it for something like google or bugzilla search results. I drag links from the browser pane that has the search results to the other pane to display each item and browse from there. Much easier than hitting the back button several times and much tidier than opening new windows or tabs. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] new udev (?) loading ipw3945 without starting ipw3945d
I switched to udev-103 recently, and now when I boot I find that ipw3945d is not getting started, which causes my wireless card to not appear at all. rmmod ipw3945; modprobe ipw3945 once the system has started works. Any advice? -Daniel *This .sig left intentionally blank* -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new udev (?) loading ipw3945 without starting ipw3945d
On 11/29/06, Daniel Barkalow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I switched to udev-103 recently, and now when I boot I find that ipw3945d is not getting started, which causes my wireless card to not appear at all. rmmod ipw3945; modprobe ipw3945 once the system has started works. Any advice? my /etc/modules.d/ipw3945 file contains the following: install ipw3945 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install ipw3945 ; sleep 0.2; /sbin/ipw3945d --quiet remove ipw3945 /sbin/ipw3945d --kill ; sleep 0.2; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove ipw3945 alias pci:v8086d4222sv*sd*bc*sc*i* off alias pci:v8086d4227sv*sd*bc*sc*i* off The alias lines are necessary to prevent udev from coldplugging the driver which otherwise would occur at a very early point in the boot sequence...in fact before /var is mounted on my system. Without /var mounted and read-write, ipw3945d cannot start. I then /sbin/modprobe ipw3945 in /etc/conf.d/local.start to load the module near the end of the boot sequence. Perhaps you need to do something similar? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] HDD I/O and UI responsiveness
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Tuesday 28 November 2006 17:45, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] HDD I/O and UI responsiveness': I read somewhere that they are trying to 'nice' the drive usage like they do the CPU. That may help if you can find it and enable it. I think it is in some of the very new kernels if I read it correctly. Sorry, I didn't bookmark it. slaps hand There's the ionice utility provided by... Running equery ...sys-process/schedutils. Isn't this just masking the problem? I don't see the CPU pegged, so why should other applications be unresponsive? --- Vladimir -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new udev (?) loading ipw3945 without starting ipw3945d
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Richard Fish wrote: On 11/29/06, Daniel Barkalow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I switched to udev-103 recently, and now when I boot I find that ipw3945d is not getting started, which causes my wireless card to not appear at all. rmmod ipw3945; modprobe ipw3945 once the system has started works. Any advice? my /etc/modules.d/ipw3945 file contains the following: ipw3945d, I assume? install ipw3945 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install ipw3945 ; sleep 0.2; /sbin/ipw3945d --quiet remove ipw3945 /sbin/ipw3945d --kill ; sleep 0.2; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove ipw3945 alias pci:v8086d4222sv*sd*bc*sc*i* off alias pci:v8086d4227sv*sd*bc*sc*i* off The alias lines are necessary to prevent udev from coldplugging the driver which otherwise would occur at a very early point in the boot sequence...in fact before /var is mounted on my system. Without /var mounted and read-write, ipw3945d cannot start. I then /sbin/modprobe ipw3945 in /etc/conf.d/local.start to load the module near the end of the boot sequence. Perhaps you need to do something similar? That's probably the same thing I need (except / rw should be sufficient for me, so I think I can use /etc/modules.autoload). I wonder if udev can be configured not to load the module. Probably the right thing is really to have ipw3945d run as regular service. It'd be nice if ipw3945 produced class net node for the device when the daemon isn't running, and just required the daemon to actually turn it on. -Daniel *This .sig left intentionally blank* -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SegFault while compiling gcc 4.1.1
Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Thursday 23 November 2006 14:39, Leandro Melo de Sales wrote: The bug is not reproducible, so it is likely a hardware or OS problem. ^ As the message says, you might have a hardware problem (usually bad RAM or CPU). My experience has been that it NEVER is a hardware problem. The next emerge of the same package always completes successfully. --- Vladimir -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SegFault while compiling gcc 4.1.1
On Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:16, Vladimir G. Ivanovic wrote: Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Thursday 23 November 2006 14:39, Leandro Melo de Sales wrote: The bug is not reproducible, so it is likely a hardware or OS problem. ^ As the message says, you might have a hardware problem (usually bad RAM or CPU). My experience has been that it NEVER is a hardware problem. The next emerge of the same package always completes successfully. That behaviour usually indicates a hardware problem. Random unexplainable segfaults that you can't reproduce. -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SegFault while compiling gcc 4.1.1
Raymond Lewis Rebbeck wrote: On Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:16, Vladimir G. Ivanovic wrote: Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Thursday 23 November 2006 14:39, Leandro Melo de Sales wrote: The bug is not reproducible, so it is likely a hardware or OS problem. ^ As the message says, you might have a hardware problem (usually bad RAM or CPU). My experience has been that it NEVER is a hardware problem. The next emerge of the same package always completes successfully. That behaviour usually indicates a hardware problem. Random unexplainable segfaults that you can't reproduce. Let's take a poll. 1. Have you seen this error message in an emerge? 2. Have you subsequently identified a hardware problem, fixed the hardware problem, and have not seen the message since? 3. Have you re-run the emerge and not seen the message in a while (please indicate how long a while is.) For me, the answers are: 1. Yes 2. No 3. Yes (~months) BTW, do you know portage/emerge/make/whatever knows that the problem is not reproducible? --- Vladimir -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
