Re: [gentoo-user] Ridiculous amount of borkage in portage
On Sunday 01 April 2007 01:04, Jeff Rollin wrote: In the last episode, Jeff Rollin wrote: JR In the last episode, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: JR HV On Sonntag, 1. April 2007, Jeff Rollin wrote: JR HV Am I the only one seeing a ridiculous amount of borkage in Gentoo this JR HV week? JR HV yes, you are. JR HV JR HV Have you filed bugs? JR JR No, Now filed. I've rebuilt a machine this week by updating/upgrading nearly everything (the box had not been touched for a nearly year). I was fearing the amount of breakages that would occur in the process and still cannot believe that I had zero packages failing to emerge. Two other machines that I update regularly had no failures either. If my experience is anything to go by, then there may be something wrong with your machine/build. -- Regards, Mick pgpkZEORSEvSt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Installation on Dell Inspiron Laptop
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 08:49 -0400, Colleen Beamer wrote: Hi all, I'm having a problem. [snip] and then, the laptop shuts off on me. It does sound like an overheating thing, as already mentioned, especially since you had overheating problems before. Can you confirm that _all_ fans are working? I thought I only had 2 fans, but there are actually 3, so watch out for hidden ones! Also, you could use the dell kernel module (i8k) to force your fans to full speed and see if that helps. Finally on the heating side, try taking it apart (if you're happy with that - you break it you keep the pieces :) and cleaning out all the dust / dirt from the fins. Another possibility is your memory - maybe its going flaky? This is a common compile problem that gives varied results (lockups, panics, halts, etc). Try different ram if you have it, or only half your ram at a time if you have 2 sticks. You could also try the memtest bootable cd. HTH! -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au One small step for man, one giant stumble for mankind. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] depscan.sh?
Hi Dale In the last episode, Dale wrote: Da Jeff Rollin wrote: Da Hi all Da Da Somehow when updating the system the file /sbin/depscan.sh has gone missing - Da please advise as to how to get it back! Da Da It is part of baselayout. So emerge -1v baselayout should work fine. Da Da Hope that helps. Da Da Dale Da Da :-) :-) :-) Da Thanks! Jeff -- For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled. Richard Phillips Feynman, American physicist, 11/5/18-15/2/88 -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] depscan.sh?
Hi again In the last episode, Jeff Rollin wrote: JR Hi Dale JR JR In the last episode, Dale wrote: JR Da Jeff Rollin wrote: JR Da Hi all JR Da JR Da Somehow when updating the system the file /sbin/depscan.sh has gone JR missing - Da please advise as to how to get it back! JR JR Da JR Da It is part of baselayout. So emerge -1v baselayout should work fine. JR Da JR Da Hope that helps. JR Da JR Da Dale JR Da I've filed a bug report, as it's not user error but a bug in baselayout. Thanks Jeff -- For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled. Richard Phillips Feynman, American physicist, 11/5/18-15/2/88 -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ridiculous amount of borkage in portage
Hi Mick In the last episode, Mick wrote: Mi On Sunday 01 April 2007 01:04, Jeff Rollin wrote: Mi In the last episode, Jeff Rollin wrote: Mi JR In the last episode, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: Mi JR HV On Sonntag, 1. April 2007, Jeff Rollin wrote: Mi JR HV Am I the only one seeing a ridiculous amount of borkage in Gentoo Mi this JR HV week? Mi I've rebuilt a machine this week by updating/upgrading nearly everything (the Mi box had not been touched for a nearly year). I was fearing the amount of Mi breakages that would occur in the process and still cannot believe that I had Mi zero packages failing to emerge. Two other machines that I update regularly Mi had no failures either. If my experience is anything to go by, then there Mi may be something wrong with your machine/build. Oh joy! More likely to be the machine because the build has been working fine since...forgotten how long. (I do usually still get broken ebuilds but not many, and if you're anything to go by a certain amount are expected). I did recently have filesystem corruption on the /var partition but I don't see how that could be the cause...since I have emerge --sync'ed about three times isn't it unlikely that a disk error would cause the same error in the same package in three different --syncs? Anyway, thanks for the message and congratulations! Jeff -- For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled. Richard Phillips Feynman, American physicist, 11/5/18-15/2/88 -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Any consequences to package.mask'ing newer kernels?
Hemmann, Volker Armin ha scritto: In almost every kernel release a security problem is found, that is fixed in a stable release. Stable release? AFAIK, *all* 2.6.x releases are stable releases. The days of double trees (2.4.x and 2.5.x) are gone. Probably I don't get what you mean. I use x86 kernels, not ~x86: that's what you mean as stable? I don't understand. and between that blue moons, your box is wide open to attacks. Well, if in *every* kernel there is *always* a security problem, my box is always open to attacks... :) (I understand your point, however. I didn't realize the linux kernel was so full of security holes. I thought it was one of the most secure components. Why aren't there GLSAs for the kernel?) Which risk? Which mess? There is not a risk, if you use oldconfig. oldconfig doesn't always work well between major releases (2.6.x vs 2.6.x+1). But there is a big risk in security holes. True, but can you explain me the points above? m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ridiculous amount of borkage in portage
Jeff Rollin ha scritto: Hi Am I the only one seeing a ridiculous amount of borkage in Gentoo this week? So far I have had gcc, perl, perl-dependent packages, autogen and some other packages fail on me this week. What kind of failures? Is it possible is your hardware at fault? m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Any consequences to package.mask'ing newer kernels?
On Sonntag, 1. April 2007, b.n. wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin ha scritto: In almost every kernel release a security problem is found, that is fixed in a stable release. Stable release? AFAIK, *all* 2.6.x releases are stable releases. No, they aren't. There are the 'normal' releases (for example 2.6.20) and the 'stable' releases which fix important bugs and security holes (like, for example 2.6.20.2). The days of double trees (2.4.x and 2.5.x) are gone. Today we have at least 4 trees. Linus. Morton. The 'stable releases' (2.6.XY.Z) Bunk's 2.6.16.XY Which risk? Which mess? There is not a risk, if you use oldconfig. oldconfig doesn't always work well between major releases (2.6.x vs 2.6.x+1). I works like a charm for me -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] netfilter tarpit target
Hi, guys Recently I was looking through my logs when I got pissed off (again) by the big number of lines showing something like 'sshd: auth. error: unknown user XXX from some IP address'. I wrote a script which automatically sets all connections from those IP addresses to be dropped. Next I decided to change -j DROP with -j TARPIT and I realized that gentoo-sources doesn't provide the netfilter target TARPIT. My question: what is the best way get this iptables module working w/o diverting too much from the official Gentoo installation. I mean the normal way is to use patch-o-matic to patch iptables source and vanilla kernel source, then build and install. I have the feeling that it is not exactly the right thing to with Gentoo. Any advices would be much appreciated. -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ridiculous amount of borkage in portage
Hi again In the last episode, Jeff Rollin wrote: JR Hi Mick JR JR In the last episode, Mick wrote: JR Mi If my experience is anything to go by, then there Mi may be something wrong with your machine/build. JR JR Oh joy! JR JR More likely to be the machine because the build has been working fine JR since...forgotten how long. (I do usually still get broken ebuilds but not JR many, and if you're anything to go by a certain amount are expected). JR JR I did recently have filesystem corruption on the /var partition but I don't JR see how that could be the cause...since I have emerge --sync'ed about three JR times isn't it unlikely that a disk error would cause the same error in the JR same package in three different --syncs? JR JR Anyway, thanks for the message and congratulations! JR JR Jeff I have since re-installed the working version of gcc from scratch (re-download source, recompile, reinstall, everything) and it works... so the problem is probably the ebuilds. Jeff -- For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled. Richard Phillips Feynman, American physicist, 11/5/18-15/2/88 -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Accessibility, or, Purple writing on black is a REALLY BAD idea.
Hi list I like the new look of the website, but how on Earth does anyone make any sense of the links? Purple on black is a really bad idea, and that's from someone who doesn't have any accessibility issues with websites. Should this be filed as a bug? Jeff -- For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled. Richard Phillips Feynman, American physicist, 11/5/18-15/2/88 -- pgpb360qCb8hj.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Accessibility, or, Purple writing on black is a REALLY BAD idea.
In the last episode, Jeff Rollin wrote: JR Hi list JR JR I like the new look of the website, but how on Earth does anyone make any JR sense of the links? Purple on black is a really bad idea, and that's from JR someone who doesn't have any accessibility issues with websites. JR JR Should this be filed as a bug? JR JR Jeff Actually it's blue, isn't it (the purple is from the colour of my visited links). Still, it's not easy to read. -- For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled. Richard Phillips Feynman, American physicist, 11/5/18-15/2/88 -- pgpxc3tockhmy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] netfilter tarpit target
Hi Daniel Daniel Iliev wrote on 01/04/07 15:03: Recently I was looking through my logs when I got pissed off (again) by the big number of lines showing something like 'sshd: auth. error: unknown user XXX from some IP address'. I wrote a script which automatically sets all connections from those IP addresses to be dropped. Next I decided to change -j DROP with -j TARPIT and I realized that gentoo-sources doesn't provide the netfilter target TARPIT. My question: what is the best way get this iptables module working w/o diverting too much from the official Gentoo installation. I mean the normal way is to use patch-o-matic to patch iptables source and vanilla kernel source, then build and install. I have the feeling that it is not exactly the right thing to with Gentoo. cd /usr/src svn co https://svn.netfilter.org/netfilter/trunk/patch-o-matic-ng svn co https://svn.netfilter.org/netfilter/trunk/iptables cd patch-o-matic-ng ./runme extra cd /usr/src/linux make menuconfig make make modules_install make install make sure you have USE extensions in your make.conf emerge iptables Cheers, Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Accessibility, or, Purple writing on black is a REALLY BAD idea.
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 18:07:15 +0400, Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list I like the new look of the website, but how on Earth does anyone make any sense of the links? Purple on black is a really bad idea, and that's from someone who doesn't have any accessibility issues with websites. Should this be filed as a bug? Jeff Do you mean www.gentoo.org? If yes: IMHO this should not be filed as a bug. The colors all over the page are consistent and the links, which are not exactly purple, are visible. Since they turn to light green when the mouse points at them it is impossible to click a wrong link. I guess those who are new to www.gentoo.org will move the mouse over all links; the rest just click automatically. -- Andrei Gerasimenko -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Accessibility, or, Purple writing on black is a REALLY BAD idea.
In the last episode, Andrey Gerasimenko wrote: AG AG Do you mean www.gentoo.org? If yes: AG AG IMHO this should not be filed as a bug. The colors all over the page are AG consistent and the links, which are not exactly purple, are visible. The colors are consistent, but the links are only visible against the light background of the side, not against the top. Since AG they turn to light green when the mouse points at them it is impossible to AG click a wrong link. That is obviously browser-dependent, since they don't change when I point to them on mine. Besides, that is just bad design. AG AG I guess those who are new to www.gentoo.org will move the mouse over all AG links; the rest just click automatically. I wouldn't bet on it; I'm not exactly a new visitor but I can never remember the order of the links. Especially since the website design has just been changed. Jeff -- For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled. Richard Phillips Feynman, American physicist, 11/5/18-15/2/88 -- pgptYyStxhXq0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Accessibility, or, Purple writing on black is a REALLY BAD idea.
On Sunday 01 April 2007, Jeff Rollin wrote: Hi list I like the new look of the website, but how on Earth does anyone make any sense of the links? Purple on black is a really bad idea, and that's from someone who doesn't have any accessibility issues with websites. Should this be filed as a bug? Jeff Personally I have no problems reading it but I can imagine people would have problems with it. It would be a good thing if the site got a little more contrast. -- Rick van Hattem Rick.van.Hattem(at)Fawo.nl pgpvSCvhC6rHM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Accessibility, or, Purple writing on black is a REALLY BAD idea.
Hello Herman In the last episode, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: HV On Sonntag, 1. April 2007, Jeff Rollin wrote: HV Hi list HV HV I like the new look of the website, but how on Earth does anyone make any HV sense of the links? Purple on black is a really bad idea, and that's from HV someone who doesn't have any accessibility issues with websites. HV HV Should this be filed as a bug? HV HV Jeff HV HV 'new look'? Where? What changed? Is it me or has there been a little change to the look of the site? Maybe it is just me... HV HV IMHO the links on the top of the page are highly readable. The ones on the HV left (light blue on even lighter blue is not sooo smart) are not half as HV readable. OK, I would have said the reverse. Hmm. I can see this thread is headed for consensus! Jeff -- For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled. Richard Phillips Feynman, American physicist, 11/5/18-15/2/88 -- pgpSo7HA62e3Z.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Accessibility, or, Purple writing on black is a REALLY BAD idea.
Jeff Rollin wrote: In the last episode, Andrey Gerasimenko wrote: AG AG Do you mean www.gentoo.org? If yes: AG AG IMHO this should not be filed as a bug. The colors all over the page are AG consistent and the links, which are not exactly purple, are visible. The colors are consistent, but the links are only visible against the light background of the side, not against the top. Since AG they turn to light green when the mouse points at them it is impossible to AG click a wrong link. That is obviously browser-dependent, since they don't change when I point to them on mine. Besides, that is just bad design. AG AG I guess those who are new to www.gentoo.org will move the mouse over all AG links; the rest just click automatically. I wouldn't bet on it; I'm not exactly a new visitor but I can never remember the order of the links. Especially since the website design has just been changed. Jeff Funny, I'm half blind and I can see them fine, without my glasses even. They even sort of stick out to me. Then again, I'm weird anyway. LOL Dale :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/-remove-me-dalek1967 Copy n paste then remove the -remove-me- part. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Accessibility, or, Purple writing on black is a REALLY BAD idea.
On Sunday 01 April 2007, Jeff Rollin wrote: Hi list I like the new look of the website, but how on Earth does anyone make any sense of the links? Purple on black is a really bad idea, and that's from someone who doesn't have any accessibility issues with websites. Should this be filed as a bug? Jeff This has nothing to do with the accessibility of the website, it inflects the usability, which is something completely different. What isn't accessible is the layout which is based on tables, changing this to div's will increase the accessibility and the opportunity to easily create new designs. The menus are awfull, I mean, come on, a tags separated by pipes? Imagine what text to speech software would make from that... What's wrong with using ul which is basically made for this? Anyway, if you want to talk about accessibility, the first thing you should do is ask yourself the question if you know what accessibility is. If the answer to that question is no, then stick with the term usability. some guidelines to get the website more accessible: http://www.w3.org/WAI/ Greetings, Thomas -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Accessibility, or, Purple writing on black is a REALLY BAD idea.
Hi Thomas In the last episode, Thomas Wouters wrote: TW On Sunday 01 April 2007, Jeff Rollin wrote: TW Hi list TW TW I like the new look of the website, but how on Earth does anyone make any TW sense of the links? Purple on black is a really bad idea, and that's from TW someone who doesn't have any accessibility issues with websites. TW TW Should this be filed as a bug? TW TW Jeff TW TW This has nothing to do with the accessibility of the website, it inflects the TW usability, which is something completely different. TW What isn't accessible is the layout which is based on tables, changing this to TW div's will increase the accessibility and the opportunity to easily create TW new designs. TW The menus are awfull, I mean, come on, a tags separated by pipes? Imagine TW what text to speech software would make from that... What's wrong with using TW ul which is basically made for this? TW TW Anyway, if you want to talk about accessibility, the first thing you should do TW is ask yourself the question if you know what accessibility is. If the answer TW to that question is no, then stick with the term usability. In my opinion this is hair-splitting. To me accessibility just means usability for disabled users. Besides, as I already noted, the fact that it's bad from a design/usability standpoint is only going to make it worse from an accessibility standpoint. Jeff -- For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled. Richard Phillips Feynman, American physicist, 11/5/18-15/2/88 -- pgpMrAN44HuTU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] netfilter tarpit target
Dave Jones wrote: Hi Daniel My question: what is the best way get this iptables module working w/o diverting too much from the official Gentoo installation. I mean the normal way is to use patch-o-matic to patch iptables source and vanilla kernel source, then build and install. I have the feeling that it is not exactly the right thing to with Gentoo. cd /usr/src svn co https://svn.netfilter.org/netfilter/trunk/patch-o-matic-ng svn co https://svn.netfilter.org/netfilter/trunk/iptables cd patch-o-matic-ng ./runme extra cd /usr/src/linux make menuconfig make make modules_install make install make sure you have USE extensions in your make.conf emerge iptables Cheers, Dave Dave, thanks for your reply. This patch appears to be incompatible with gentoo-sources or I'm doing something wrong. After patching the module TARPIT appears in the kernel configuration and I mark it to get built as a module [M]. Then: == make all modules_install install scripts/kconfig/conf -s arch/i386/Kconfig CHK include/linux/version.h CHK include/linux/utsrelease.h CHK include/linux/compile.h GZIPkernel/config_data.gz IKCFG kernel/config_data.h CC kernel/configs.o LD kernel/built-in.o CC [M] net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_TARPIT.o net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_TARPIT.c: In function ‘ip_direct_send’: net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_TARPIT.c:65: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘neigh_hh_output’ ---snip Kernel: arch/i386/boot/bzImage is ready (#2) Building modules, stage 2. MODPOST 159 modules WARNING: neigh_hh_output [net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_TARPIT.ko] undefined! make[1]: *** [__modpost] Error 1 make: *** [modules] Error 2 == So, I'm still looking for advices. -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] cyrus-imapd not working after recompile against db4.3
Hi, any ideas, why my cyrus-imapd isn't working anymore? In /var/log/imapd.log is says: Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet master[25000]: process started Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet master[25004]: about to exec /usr/lib/cyrus/ctl_cyrusdb Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet ctl_cyrusdb[25004]: DBERROR àÓ^F^H: db4 Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet ctl_cyrusdb[25004]: recovering cyrus databases Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet ctl_cyrusdb[25004]: skiplist: recovered /var/imap/mailboxes.db (72 records, 12920 bytes) in 0 seconds Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet ctl_cyrusdb[25004]: skiplist: recovered /var/imap/annotations.db (0 records, 144 bytes) in 0 seconds Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet ctl_cyrusdb[25004]: DBERROR àÓ^F^H: db4 Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet ctl_cyrusdb[25004]: DBERROR àÓ^F^H: db4 Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet ctl_cyrusdb[25004]: DBERROR: critical database situation Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet master[25000]: process 25004 exited, status 75 Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet master[25009]: about to exec /usr/lib/cyrus/idled Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet idled[25009]: DBERROR pÕ^F^H: db4 Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet idled[25009]: DBERROR: critical database situation Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet master[25000]: process 25009 exited, status 75 Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet master[25000]: ready for work Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet master[25022]: about to exec /usr/lib/cyrus/tls_prune Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet tls_prune[25022]: DBERROR : db4 Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet tls_prune[25022]: DBERROR: critical database situation Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet master[25023]: about to exec /usr/lib/cyrus/ctl_deliver Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet cyr_expire[25023]: DBERROR àÚ^F^H: db4 Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet cyr_expire[25023]: DBERROR: critical database situation Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet master[25024]: about to exec /usr/lib/cyrus/ctl_cyrusdb Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet master[25000]: process 25022 exited, status 75 Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet master[25000]: process 25023 exited, status 75 Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet ctl_cyrusdb[25024]: DBERROR àÓ^F^H: db4 Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet ctl_cyrusdb[25024]: DBERROR: critical database situation Apr 1 19:21:27 gwinet master[25000]: process 25024 exited, status 75 Apr 1 19:29:22 gwinet master[25000]: exiting on SIGTERM/SIGINT So as you can see, one database must be broken or in wrong format. But i have NO idea, which one it is. Before the upgrade to sys-libs/db-4.3* and a recompile of cyrus-imapd, the same version of cyrus imapd worked fine with db4.2. Any ideas? Thanks, Sven signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] netfilter tarpit target
quoth the Daniel Iliev: Next I decided to change -j DROP with -j TARPIT and I realized that gentoo-sources doesn't provide the netfilter target TARPIT. - Best regards, Daniel I realize there is a sense of satisfaction from using the TARPIT target that is appealing, however you must consider: 1. These ssh bruteforce attacks are almost certainly coming from a zombie botnet, and thus there is no human to realize their connection has been 'stuck'. The zombie will happily freeze for 30 seconds then try again. 2. Due to the nature of the persistant connection using TARPIT, you are opening up your machine to a DOS attack, if the Bad Guy can deduce you are using it. 2 cents -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Accessibility, or, Purple writing on black is a REALLY BAD idea.
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 19:25:24 +0400, Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the last episode, Andrey Gerasimenko wrote: AG AG Do you mean www.gentoo.org? If yes: AG AG IMHO this should not be filed as a bug. The colors all over the page are AG consistent and the links, which are not exactly purple, are visible. The colors are consistent, but the links are only visible against the light background of the side, not against the top. Since AG they turn to light green when the mouse points at them it is impossible to AG click a wrong link. That is obviously browser-dependent, since they don't change when I point to them on mine. Besides, that is just bad design. I agree that without the mouse highlight the menu may look badly with some monitors (that is, strangely configured CRT or not very good LCD; of course, I understand that there may be very good reasons to configure the monitor that way, so that adjusting the monitor is not a solution). I do not insist on the following since it may cause a flame war, but I guess that if a browser does not respect the a.menulink:hover construct (which is responsible for the green highlight), then it is a buggy browser and a bug report should go to its developers. Personally, I would ask the web designer to specify image sizes in the img tags, remove links that point to the very page being displayed, find another way to indicate that a link has been visited than making it bold (bold means something more important than plain, not less important since already visited), make the sidebar and top menus consistent, make the path to the page easier to see, and so on. However, I guess that it is impractical to fix all that right now due to the law of the diminishing returns. So, I agree that the menu may cause inconveniences under some special conditions, but I vote against filing a bug. On my monitor the colors are just right. I cannot imagine any quick fix that will make the menu contrast higher without damage to the overall page consistency. I agree that a better design is possible, but what we have is good enough. -- Andrei Gerasimenko -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Installation on Dell Inspiron Laptop
Iain Buchanan wrote: On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 08:49 -0400, Colleen Beamer wrote: Hi all, I'm having a problem. [snip] and then, the laptop shuts off on me. It does sound like an overheating thing, as already mentioned, especially since you had overheating problems before. I sincerely don't think it's an overheating problem for this reason: I reposted this message with an addendum. The addendum was that I had tried the installation with the Live CD using a gui interface. I had started this late at night and went to bed.The kernel compile again bombed, but the laptop did not turn off - it was still on when I got up the next morning. Can you confirm that _all_ fans are working? I thought I only had 2 fans, but there are actually 3, so watch out for hidden ones! Also, you could use the dell kernel module (i8k) to force your fans to full speed and see if that helps. I'll try this suggestion. I am in doubt that it would be the fan because the fan was just replaced under warranty by Dell Another possibility is your memory - maybe its going flaky? This is a common compile problem that gives varied results (lockups, panics, halts, etc). Try different ram if you have it, or only half your ram at a time if you have 2 sticks. You could also try the memtest bootable cd. Will consider memtest as an option, but again, the memory is reasonably new - it was upgraded recently to have more memory on the laptop. Thanks for the response. Regards, Colleen. -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Maya
Well, when I said commercial version, I meant the off the shelf product, which you do have to buy. You can probably try their demo version and see how you like it. I haven't played with their free version (assuming they have a linux version of it). -- Samir On 3/27/07, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 27 March 2007 04:13, Samir Faci wrote: As far as I know the learning edition isn't available for linux, I might be wrong. They do have their commercial version which works great on linux. Unlike other company that came out with linux versions which turned out to be re-wrap of their 1.0 release of their software from 10 years ago written for linux, the Maya software works really well, and it seems very feature rich. (Not that I can make heads or tails of half the features it has). Thanks Samir, Assuming you don't have to buy it (or do you?) do you need to register it - how? -- Regards, Mick
[gentoo-user] Flourish Conference Reminder
I just wanted to remind everyone that the Chicago Flourish Conference is coming up this weekend. Friday, April 6th and Saturday April 7th. If you are planning on attending be sure to mark you calendars and be sure to register on the website. The main website should have information on how to get to the conference, if you have any questions or concerns please feel free to contact me. Registration opens at 8 am, the presentations will be begin at 10 am on both Friday and Saturday. Don't forget to check out the hack-a-thon and come join us after the even at IBM's HQ for the post-flourish social. -- Samir Faci UIC LUG President Blog extract from main website -- Question to the world of Free and Open Source Software: What are my prospects when I graduate? As many of you know by now, for the last few months here at UIC*, we - the ACM* and g/LUG*,- have been eagerly working to put together a conference to discus FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software) as an engine of innovation. The Flourish Conf. will take place next 6-7 of April at the University of Illinois at Chicago. I am a self confessed gnu/Linux user, I love gnu/Linux, free software and even open source - sorry RMS!. I am also a CS student at the University of Illinois at Chicago, and curiously enough, even though most of our curricula is done in Unix - we even have 2 RedHat labs here, - it appears as if none of the big players within FLOSS ever come to hire at UIC. Why is that Microsoft comes here semester after semester snatching some of the most brilliant students on campus? Yet, I have yet to see FLOSS big players to come out here looking for people. These has made me wonder: Is there a professional future in FLOSS? ... and I know I'm not alone in my wonders. To answer these questions, we have invited quite a few of really smart people from different organizations: Google, IBM, Red Hat, and the FSF, and we are going to have a a chance to hear about the opportunities that FLOSS has to offer for our future. We will have two panels, a talk on GPL v3, a talk on Google's contribution and use of FLOSS, among many other really interesting talks, etc. We have also put together a series of technical talks on FLOSS related technologies and topics, and a couple other really interesting activities to give attendees a chance to meet and to be met: Friday's Social mixer, and Saturday's Hack-a-Thon. This is not only going to be a great time for students around Chicago, this is going to be a great chance for community members, and companies to come together and explore how FLOSS is shaping up our future! Come and join us! Roberto C. Serrano g/LUG @ UIC vice-president
Re: [gentoo-user] netfilter tarpit target
On Sunday 01 April 2007 14:03, Daniel Iliev wrote: Hi, guys Recently I was looking through my logs when I got pissed off (again) by the big number of lines showing something like 'sshd: auth. error: unknown user XXX from some IP address'. I wrote a script which automatically sets all connections from those IP addresses to be dropped. Next I decided to change -j DROP with -j TARPIT and I realized that gentoo-sources doesn't provide the netfilter target TARPIT. My question: what is the best way get this iptables module working w/o diverting too much from the official Gentoo installation. I mean the normal way is to use patch-o-matic to patch iptables source and vanilla kernel source, then build and install. I have the feeling that it is not exactly the right thing to with Gentoo. Any advices would be much appreciated. Given that others have already replied how patch the kernel, here's a somewhat indirect answer which may resolve the route cause: Are you using passwd authentication? I wonder if the logs would still be filling up by such botnets if you had allowed only 'PubkeyAuthentication yes'. The other thing to consider is changing the default ssh port 22 to some other random port which is not hit as frequently by botnets, only by more comprehensive port scans. Then remove your iptables LOG rule for port 22 (if you have one) and you should get rid of almost all related messages. HTH. -- Regards, Mick pgpa1OovfXByf.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: cyrus-imapd not working after recompile against db4.3
So as you can see, one database must be broken or in wrong format. But i have NO idea, which one it is. OK, it was the database in /var/imap/db. Deleted all files in that directory, and now everything's fine again. I wonder, what i broke by doing this. Anyway: all my mails are still there. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] RAID-0 with LVM - is there any point?
I have two SATA drives, I have a partition on each combined as RAID-1 on which I use LVM to create my important partitions (/usr, /var, /home etc). I have another pair of partitions combined as RAID-0 on which I have another LVM group containing less important partitions, where speed and space matter more than security. Is there any advantage to using RAID-0 with these partitions? It seemed a good idea when I set it up, because I was using LVM on RAID for the rest, but as LVM stripes data across the drives anyway, am I gaining anything from the RAID-0? Would I be just as well off by adding the two partitions directly to the LVM group? -- Neil Bothwick I laugh in the face of danger, then I hide until it goes away signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Any consequences to package.mask'ing newer kernels?
Hemmann, Volker Armin ha scritto: On Sonntag, 1. April 2007, b.n. wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin ha scritto: In almost every kernel release a security problem is found, that is fixed in a stable release. Stable release? AFAIK, *all* 2.6.x releases are stable releases. No, they aren't. There are the 'normal' releases (for example 2.6.20) and the 'stable' releases which fix important bugs and security holes (like, for example 2.6.20.2). Yes, I know that. I didn't call them unstable and stable, that's why I was confused, however I know. Now my questions are: 1)I only see gentoo-sources-2.6.X-rY, I never see gentoo-sources-2.6.X.a.b-rY .What am I installing when I install gentoo-sources-2.6.x-rY? 2)How do the binary distribution people cope with this? The days of double trees (2.4.x and 2.5.x) are gone. Today we have at least 4 trees. Linus. Morton. The 'stable releases' (2.6.XY.Z) Bunk's 2.6.16.XY Well, there have ALWAYS been a lot of different trees, but Morton, for example, AFAIK is not an official tree (although it is maintained closely to the official). However that's just nitpicking. :) Which risk? Which mess? There is not a risk, if you use oldconfig. oldconfig doesn't always work well between major releases (2.6.x vs 2.6.x+1). I works like a charm for me Not for me. And I've sometimes read of newer kernels breaking things on the gentoo mailing list. Upgrading a kernel is never straightforward, imho (maybe it's me being unexperienced, however it's my years-old only desktop box and I hate to b0rk it). m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Any consequences to package.mask'ing newer kernels?
On Montag, 2. April 2007, b.n. wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin ha scritto: On Sonntag, 1. April 2007, b.n. wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin ha scritto: In almost every kernel release a security problem is found, that is fixed in a stable release. Stable release? AFAIK, *all* 2.6.x releases are stable releases. No, they aren't. There are the 'normal' releases (for example 2.6.20) and the 'stable' releases which fix important bugs and security holes (like, for example 2.6.20.2). Yes, I know that. I didn't call them unstable and stable, that's why I was confused, however I know. Now my questions are: 1)I only see gentoo-sources-2.6.X-rY, I never see gentoo-sources-2.6.X.a.b-rY .What am I installing when I install gentoo-sources-2.6.x-rY? look into the changelogs ;) I don't use gentoo-sources, but AFAIK, the -rX releases are related to the vanilla .X releases. 2)How do the binary distribution people cope with this? backporting patches. That is why you get kernels named '2.6.17-201' and stuff like that. The days of double trees (2.4.x and 2.5.x) are gone. Today we have at least 4 trees. Linus. Morton. The 'stable releases' (2.6.XY.Z) Bunk's 2.6.16.XY Well, there have ALWAYS been a lot of different trees, but Morton, for example, AFAIK is not an official tree (although it is maintained closely to the official). It is the official testing tree. Every new feature and lots of patches and drivers have to 'mature' in Morton's tree - and he decides, together with the maintainers, which stuff goes to Linus. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Any consequences to package.mask'ing newer kernels?
On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 23:35:25 +0200, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: 1)I only see gentoo-sources-2.6.X-rY, I never see gentoo-sources-2.6.X.a.b-rY .What am I installing when I install gentoo-sources-2.6.x-rY? look into the changelogs ;) I don't use gentoo-sources, but AFAIK, the -rX releases are related to the vanilla .X releases. Not necessarily, which is why you need to read the changelogs. For example, 2.6.21-r1 may be released to fix something with 2.6.20, so when 2.6.21.1 is released, it will be in 2.6.21-r2. Bit it is reasonable to assume that the latest -r release is based on the latest revision of the kernel. Note that stable has different meanings depending on whether you apply it to the kernel or the ebuild. -- Neil Bothwick If this were an actual tagline, it would be funny. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] netfilter tarpit target
Hi Mick, Mick wrote on 01/04/07 20:44: Recently I was looking through my logs when I got pissed off (again) by the big number of lines showing something like 'sshd: auth. error: unknown user XXX from some IP address'. I wrote a script which automatically sets all connections from those IP addresses to be dropped. Next I decided to change -j DROP with -j TARPIT and I realized that gentoo-sources doesn't provide the netfilter target TARPIT. Given that others have already replied how patch the kernel, here's a somewhat indirect answer which may resolve the route cause: Are you using passwd authentication? I wonder if the logs would still be filling up by such botnets if you had allowed only 'PubkeyAuthentication yes'. The other thing to consider is changing the default ssh port 22 to some other random port which is not hit as frequently by botnets, only by more comprehensive port scans. Then remove your iptables LOG rule for port 22 (if you have one) and you should get rid of almost all related messages. Daniel complained about the sshd messages, not iptables messages. I fully agree that he should implement pub/priv key authentication, but even so, that will not prevent the flood of ssh messages in syslog. Adding an unlogged iptables DROP target rule for port 22 will suppress the messages, but not the attacks. The botnet / script kiddie morons are a pain in the (anatomy of choice). Cheers, Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] netfilter tarpit target
Hi Daniel Daniel Iliev wrote on 01/04/07 19:10: My question: what is the best way get this iptables module working w/o diverting too much from the official Gentoo installation. I mean the normal way is to use patch-o-matic to patch iptables source and vanilla kernel source, then build and install. I have the feeling that it is not exactly the right thing to with Gentoo. cd /usr/src svn co https://svn.netfilter.org/netfilter/trunk/patch-o-matic-ng svn co https://svn.netfilter.org/netfilter/trunk/iptables cd patch-o-matic-ng ./runme extra cd /usr/src/linux make menuconfig make make modules_install make install make sure you have USE extensions in your make.conf emerge iptables This patch appears to be incompatible with gentoo-sources or I'm doing something wrong. After patching the module TARPIT appears in the kernel configuration and I mark it to get built as a module [M]. Then: == make all modules_install install scripts/kconfig/conf -s arch/i386/Kconfig CHK include/linux/version.h CHK include/linux/utsrelease.h CHK include/linux/compile.h GZIPkernel/config_data.gz IKCFG kernel/config_data.h CC kernel/configs.o LD kernel/built-in.o CC [M] net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_TARPIT.o net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_TARPIT.c: In function ‘ip_direct_send’: net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_TARPIT.c:65: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘neigh_hh_output’ ---snip Kernel: arch/i386/boot/bzImage is ready (#2) Building modules, stage 2. MODPOST 159 modules WARNING: neigh_hh_output [net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_TARPIT.ko] undefined! make[1]: *** [__modpost] Error 1 make: *** [modules] Error 2 == So, I'm still looking for advices. Did the patches apply OK? Did you do: cd /usr/src/iptables svn update cd /usr/src/patch-o-matic-ng svn update .. before updating your kernel? What kernel are you running? Cheers, Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] How to resolve policy conflicts?
Hello! ATM we have the situation where the current stable version of OpenOffice (2.1.0-r1) won't compile (at least on a lot of machines) unless an ~arch version of STLport is installed: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172860 Looking at comments 34 and 37 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172860#c34 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172860#c37 it seems to me there is a conflict in policies but I don't see how this situation should be / will be handled. What is there to do? Regards mks -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge-webrsync errors
Greetings all. When running emerge-webrsync I get the following message. Can anyone help me understand/fix this? Thanks very much Adrian - Updating Portage cache: 66%Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/emerge, line 4049, in ? emerge_main() File /usr/bin/emerge, line 4008, in emerge_main action_metadata(settings, portdb, myopts) File /usr/bin/emerge, line 3019, in action_metadata eclass_cache=ec, verbose_instance=noise_maker) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/cache/util.py, line 47, in mirror_cache if trg and not write_it: File /usr/lib/python2.4/UserDict.py, line 170, in __len__ return len(self.keys()) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/cache/mappings.py, line 54, in keys return list(self.__iter__()) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/cache/mappings.py, line 48, in __iter__ for k in self.orig.iterkeys(): File /usr/lib/python2.4/UserDict.py, line 103, in iterkeys return self.__iter__() File /usr/lib/portage/pym/cache/mappings.py, line 83, in __iter__ return iter(self.keys()) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/cache/mappings.py, line 87, in keys self.d.update(self.pull()) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/cache/flat_hash.py, line 29, in callit return args[0](*args[1:]+args2) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/cache/flat_hash.py, line 47, in _pull raise cache_errors.CacheCorruption(cpv, e) cache.cache_errors.CacheCorruption: net-analyzer/etherape-0.9.6-r1 is corrupt: dictionary update sequence element #2 has length 1; 2 is required -- On The Fly Photography -:- Creation From Chaos On The Fly Photography: http://204EastSouth.com Purchase from On The Fly: http://204EastSouth.com/OTFStore.htm The Cynical Libertarian Society: http://www.204EastSouth.com/cls -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] update-eix error message
Odd things with eix-0.7.9 when I run update-eix I get the following. help/understanding please? Adrian -- root $ update-eix Reading Portage settings .. Building database (/var/cache/eix) .. [0] /usr/portage/ (cache: metadata) Reading 053%Garbage at end of version string: _p3234 Garbage at end of version string: _p3234 100% Applying masks .. Database contains 11521 packages in 149 categories. -- On The Fly Photography -:- Creation From Chaos On The Fly Photography: http://204EastSouth.com Purchase from On The Fly: http://204EastSouth.com/OTFStore.htm The Cynical Libertarian Society: http://www.204EastSouth.com/cls -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] netfilter tarpit target
First of all thanks for your replies, guys! I'll try to answer to all of you in one (longer) response: Dave Jones wrote: Daniel complained about the sshd messages, not iptables messages. I fully agree that he should implement pub/priv key authentication, but even so, that will not prevent the flood of ssh messages in syslog. Adding an unlogged iptables DROP target rule for port 22 will suppress the messages, but not the attacks. The botnet / script kiddie morons are a pain in the (anatomy of choice). Cheers, Dave [OT Start] Couldn't agree more with this. I bet the most of those hackers wouldn't know what to do even if they get the password. ;-) Sometimes I need to log in that machine from unpredictable IP addresses and I don't have a memory stick with me all the time to keep my ssh key. So, I use keyboard auth. with several extra security measures: only 1 non-root user with very long name and password can log-in. This user gets su - another-user instead of real shell and as I said I have a script which checks every minute for auth. errors and blocks the corresponding IP addresses. So, I would say brute force won't work. Additionally I'll consider changing the default port as Mick advised. As Darren stated there is a possibility for someone to make DoS attack on the tar pit system. AFAIK it exploits exhausting the available RAM+swap of the tar pit machine. In my case I'm experimenting with an old box which serves no purpose therefore I (almost) don't care even if someone gets root prompt there. [OT End] On the subject: Dave, The dedicated tar pit machine has kernel 2.6.19-gentoo-r5, arch=x86. The patch applied OK as far as I can tell. I answered with y only to the tarpit patch. Additionally such a target appeared in the kernel config: grep tarpit -i .config CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_TARPIT=m I admit I didn't do svn update. I didn't do make clean or make mrproper before patching either. Tomorrow I'll do the test again with fresh sources and report what happened. Bye and thanks again! -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] netfilter tarpit target
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 11:49:06AM -0600, darren kirby wrote: I realize there is a sense of satisfaction from using the TARPIT target that is appealing, however you must consider: 1. These ssh bruteforce attacks are almost certainly coming from a zombie botnet, and thus there is no human to realize their connection has been 'stuck'. The zombie will happily freeze for 30 seconds then try again. I use a -j DROP for my script that lasts for 1 hour. My experience from two years ago when I wrote that script was that the Bots stops trying after 5 minutes or so. YMMV W -- Willie W. Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 Fine Hall, Department of Mathematics, Princeton University, Princeton A mathematician's reputation rests on the number of bad proofs he has given. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Can I share my /boot and swap partitions with other Linux installs?
Currently I dual-boot my notebook with XP and Gentoo. I'm curious to try out all this beryl stuff and see what all the rage is with Ubuntu and the kids these days. Can I install Ubuntu in yet another partition and have it share the /boot and swap ones I already have, or do I need dedicated ones for that distro too? (and I did try to get beryl working in Gentoo, but couldn't do it. Before I spend too much time messing with that, I figured I'd see if it was even worth it. Since I have nvidia card, I can't run the Ubuntu live CD and beryl as it needs to install the proprietary drivers. ) D.Vin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can I share my /boot and swap partitions with other Linux installs?
Daevid Vincent wrote: Currently I dual-boot my notebook with XP and Gentoo. I'm curious to try out all this beryl stuff and see what all the rage is with Ubuntu and the kids these days. Can I install Ubuntu in yet another partition and have it share the /boot and swap ones I already have, or do I need dedicated ones for that distro too? (and I did try to get beryl working in Gentoo, but couldn't do it. Before I spend too much time messing with that, I figured I'd see if it was even worth it. Since I have nvidia card, I can't run the Ubuntu live CD and beryl as it needs to install the proprietary drivers. ) D.Vin You should be able to share /boot and swap without any problems. Just make sure you name the kernels something different or that each distro is set up to use the same kernel version. Some people share the /home too. I have read that can be tricky though. May need the same or close to the same version of KDE for example. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/-remove-me-dalek1967 Copy n paste then remove the -remove-me- part. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can I share my /boot and swap partitions with other Linux installs?
On 20:14 Sun 01 Apr , Daevid Vincent wrote: Can I install Ubuntu in yet another partition and have it share the /boot and swap ones I already have, or do I need dedicated ones for that distro too? you can and you should. -- Good evening, gentlemen. I am a HAL 9000 computer. I became operational at the HAL plant in Urbana, Illinois, on January 11th, nineteen hundred ninety-five. My supervisor was Mr. Langley, and he taught me to sing a song. If you would like, I could sing it for you. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Can I share my /boot and swap partitions with other Linux installs?
In news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should be able to share /boot and swap without any problems. Just make sure you name the kernels something different or that each distro is set up to use the same kernel version. Why the same kernel version? -- »Q« -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can I share my /boot and swap partitions with other Linux installs?
»Q« wrote: In news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should be able to share /boot and swap without any problems. Just make sure you name the kernels something different or that each distro is set up to use the same kernel version. Why the same kernel version? Well, if he uses nvidia drivers I think it will need to be the same. I'm not sure about mixing a 2.4 and say a 2.6 either. It sort of depends on what he is running. I just remember doing that with Mandrake once a long time ago. I used a separate kernel for each distro. It worked. Dale :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/-remove-me-dalek1967 Copy n paste then remove the -remove-me- part.
[gentoo-user] Re: Can I share my /boot and swap partitions with other Linux installs?
In news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: »Q« wrote: In news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should be able to share /boot and swap without any problems. Just make sure you name the kernels something different or that each distro is set up to use the same kernel version. Why the same kernel version? Well, if he uses nvidia drivers I think it will need to be the same. I'm not sure about mixing a 2.4 and say a 2.6 either. It sort of depends on what he is running. Any drivers he's using should be for the kernel they'll be used with. He's only talking about sharing /boot and swap, not sharing drivers. -- »Q« -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Any consequences to package.mask'ing newer kernels?
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 09:21:22AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote At around 300MB per kernel, that's ten excess kernels, so you can't be doing it that often. I ran df and ll between each individual unmerge. The individual kernels take approx 250 megs, freshly emerged. Compiling generates another 200 megs worth of object code, etc. Here's partial output of ll before the cleanup. Note that 2.6.16-r7, 2.6.17-r7, and 2.6.18-r3 were compiled, as well as the current 2.6.19-r5. drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 744 Sep 6 2006 linux-2.6.16-gentoo-r13 drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 744 May 4 2006 linux-2.6.16-gentoo-r6 drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 1488 Oct 14 02:14 linux-2.6.16-gentoo-r7 drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 744 Jun 13 2006 linux-2.6.16-gentoo-r9 drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 712 Jul 29 2006 linux-2.6.17-gentoo-r4 drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 1448 Sep 6 2006 linux-2.6.17-gentoo-r7 drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 744 Sep 16 2006 linux-2.6.17-gentoo-r8 drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 712 Nov 12 09:01 linux-2.6.18-gentoo-r2 drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 1328 Feb 17 18:51 linux-2.6.18-gentoo-r3 drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 712 Dec 24 22:14 linux-2.6.18-gentoo-r5 drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 712 Jan 14 20:15 linux-2.6.18-gentoo-r6 drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 1328 Mar 8 19:32 linux-2.6.19-gentoo-r5 I don't mind the 30 or 40 megs for the source tarball+patches in my distfiles directory. But the quarter gig for each minor r bump, most of which I never build, is a bit much. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 Q. Mr. Ghandi, what do you think of Microsoft security? A. I think it would be a good idea. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge-webrsync errors
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adrian wrote: File /usr/lib/portage/pym/cache/flat_hash.py, line 47, in _pull raise cache_errors.CacheCorruption(cpv, e) cache.cache_errors.CacheCorruption: net-analyzer/etherape-0.9.6-r1 is corrupt: dictionary update sequence element #2 has length 1; 2 is required rm -rf /var/cache/edb/dep emerge --metadata emerge portage That's bug 156374 and it's fixed in the latest stable version of portage. Zac -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGEJGL/ejvha5XGaMRAqhwAJ4ibGTYavbAM0B/RqzxuVCD9q5CxgCgrmfb kdxpfc1/DIU8sHVJUDrnH6g= =oUgv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can I share my /boot and swap partitions with other Linux installs?
»Q« wrote: In news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: »Q« wrote: In news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should be able to share /boot and swap without any problems. Just make sure you name the kernels something different or that each distro is set up to use the same kernel version. Why the same kernel version? Well, if he uses nvidia drivers I think it will need to be the same. I'm not sure about mixing a 2.4 and say a 2.6 either. It sort of depends on what he is running. Any drivers he's using should be for the kernel they'll be used with. He's only talking about sharing /boot and swap, not sharing drivers. True. It's to late for me to be giving to many suggestions. LOL I will say this though, not sharing /boot could turn into a nightmare. I did that once. It was the most confusing thing I ever saw. It is really confusing right now. ;-) I'm going to bed. Zz. Dale :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/-remove-me-dalek1967 Copy n paste then remove the -remove-me- part.
Re: [gentoo-user] update-eix error message
070401 Adrian wrote: Odd things with eix-0.7.9 I'm using 0.9.1 successfully. when I run update-eix I get the following. root $ update-eix Reading Portage settings .. Building database (/var/cache/eix) .. [0] /usr/portage/ (cache: metadata) Reading 053%Garbage at end of version string: _p3234 Garbage at end of version string: _p3234 100% Applying masks .. Database contains 11521 packages in 149 categories. 'man eix' suggests 'update-eix' expects parameters. Should you perhaps be using 'eix-sync' ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Any consequences to package.mask'ing newer kernels?
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 04:11:42PM +0200, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote Which risk? Which mess? There is not a risk, if you use oldconfig. With oldconfig, 99% of the updates seem to consist of added support for exotic raid controllers or network cards. Since my system has been running OK for the past couple of years without the new features, I obviously don't need them. I end up hitting N all the time. I got bitten in the latest stable kernel (2.6.19-r5). It moved SATA support out of SCSI, and into a separate section altogether. I plowed through make oldconfig, hitting N for every option. Because I have a SATA drive, the result was kernel panic when I rebooted into the new kernel. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 Q. Mr. Ghandi, what do you think of Microsoft security? A. I think it would be a good idea. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] headphones don't work since upgrade to kernel 2.6.19???
Hi, I've rebooted today with kernel 2.6.19 (used 2.6.18 before). I have a Intel 945G/GZ/P/PL motherboard and a Intel hda on board soundcard (Alsamixer says Card: HDA Intel and Chip: Realtek ALC260). I've listened to music via headphones plugged in on the frontside. Suddenly this setup don't work anymore: If I turn up the PCM playback source in the alsamixer, I hear the sound from the builtin PC boxen. If I turn PCM level to 0 I hear nothing. The Headphon channel is dead. What now? Kernel version: Linux atpcbygc 2.6.19-gentoo-r5 I use the alsa drivers coming with the kernel. Troubled in vienna, Wolfgang -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
