Re: [gentoo-user] Bash 3.2/3.1 compatibility?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Willie Wong wrote: On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 11:13:10AM +0200, Penguin Lover Etaoin Shrdlu squawked: The question: Is there a switch that I can use to make bash run in some sort of compatibility mode for the string comparison? I.e, can I somehow force bash (in the script) to behave like before? Low-tech solution: can't you just install bash 3.1 manually somewhere, create a symlink /bin/bash31 to it, and put #!/bin/bash31 at the beginning of your scripts? Yes I could.. but the amount of work it takes for me to do that and remember that I did it is probably comparable to going back and updating all my shell scripts. sed 's$!#/bin/bash$!#/bin/bash31' *.sh -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHNzMzaiVxdKlBO58RAgojAJ4qA0U9GL4UZKXqhfgjq//2MS4udwCeNPOM Yk614rjHgq6gCpNVxUI+06g= =8weZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] python-2.4 is it safe to unmerge it ?
I'm using a Python-2.5 based system since a year now. (currently python-2.5.1-r3) I've run python-updater and revdep-rebuild. Is it safe to unmerge python-2.4.3-r1 (in my case)? Many thanks for your comment, Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] python-2.4 is it safe to unmerge it ?
On Sunday 11 November 2007 18:28:15 Helmut Jarausch wrote: I'm using a Python-2.5 based system since a year now. (currently python-2.5.1-r3) I've run python-updater and revdep-rebuild. Is it safe to unmerge python-2.4.3-r1 (in my case)? Yes. -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Is EVMS dead?
On Nov,Tuesday 6 2007, at 3:07 AM, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 18:01 -0500, Eric S. Johansson wrote: given that I frequently play the role of the heretic (complete with burn scars all over my body and various bits of damage from the weapons of true believers) I think it's a good thing that EVMS is slated for the trash heap. It's a classic example of second system syndrome as defined by the mythical Man month. It's overly complicated, poorly documented, and has a terrible user interface that only a geek would even consider using. Having said that, I also think LVMS suffers from many if not all of the same problems that plagued EVMS. it is been around for years and still the documentation on how to perform common operations is lacking. It's a chicken and egg problem. You need to understand LVMS in order to understand the documentation and then you can't explain it to anyone else. Every time I've used LVMS, it takes me the same number of hours to relearn the same old pieces of obscure command syntax and become comfortable that I'm not going to trash my disk. As a result, I don't use LVMS either. I've never used EVMS so I can't comment at all on it. However I have been using LVM for years and one of the few good things I can say about it is that its pretty small, easy, and predictable. In fact one of the negative things I'd have to say about it is that it's *too* simple (a LV defrag tool would be nice). I really don't understand the complexity you speak of. It's pretty well documented, and has a fairly high user-base. I do agree though that, based on this ML and IRC discussions, many times I'll see a person who wants to use LVM and perhaps maybe they don't need it, and they get frustrated because they're using the wrong tool for the job. Myself: I have a 8 2-disk RAID volumes with LVM on top. If I need to expand my VG, I just pop in a couple of new drives, to an lvextend on a volume and then mount -o remount,resize and voila! On another machine I have xen and I have 2 VGs: a set of disks for the Host and a set for the VMs. I have some VMs in a DMZ, and I can't reach them from the host, but I use LVM to create snapshots of their disks and make backup of them. LVM makes it damn easy. In some ways LVM is like a poor-man's SAN for Xen VMs. You can carve out a LV, assign it to a VM, and resize, hot-add or hot-remove them as you please. But again, the average person with a single disk running on a laptop computer probably has no use for LVM. Pretty much every major server OS has volume management (including Windows) because a lot of users at that level need it. Linu LVM, I think, is very similar to HP-UX LVM at the command level. AFAIK an who has written linux LVM worked for HP. Regards Adam. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Installation problem
I want to install gentoo from a minimal cd. I download the minimal AMD64 iso for my pc.. During the installation i arrived at this point: eth1: PHY reset until link up.. and there is no way to continue..i always obtain this error.. what shoul i do? Bye from Italy Fabio -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] oggenc ogg flac files
Hi! Can anyone confirm that it is not possible to transcode ogg-flac files to ogg-vorbis although the necessary use flags are set (vorbis-tools +flac; flac +ogg) and the man page says it's possible? There seems to have been a bug about this in 2004 [1] but the patch is long applied and I want to rule out every other possibility before opening a new one. Test Case: 1. emerge media-libs/flac with +ogg and media/sound/vorbis-tools with +flac: USE=ogg,flac emerge -av1 flac vorbis-tools 2. Encode something to flac in an ogg container, for example /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav to /tmp/Noise.oga: flac --ogg /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav -o /tmp/Noise.oga 3. Try to transcode the oga-file to ogg-vorbis: oggenc /tmp/Noise.oga Transcoding normal flac-files is still possible. Thanks in advance! Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] oggenc ogg flac files
Hi! Can anyone confirm that it is not possible to transcode ogg-flac files to ogg-vorbis although the necessary use flags are set (vorbis-tools +flac; flac +ogg) and the man page says it's possible? There seems to have been a bug about this in 2004 [1] but the patch is long applied and I want to rule out every other possibility before opening a new one. Test Case: 1. emerge media-libs/flac with +ogg and media/sound/vorbis-tools with +flac: USE=ogg,flac emerge -av1 flac vorbis-tools 2. Encode something to flac in an ogg container, for example /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav to /tmp/Noise.oga: flac --ogg /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav -o /tmp/Noise.oga 3. Try to transcode the oga-file to ogg-vorbis: oggenc /tmp/Noise.oga Transcoding normal flac-files is still possible. Thanks in advance! Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] grub hell
Hi group, Previously I had a problem with hard drive that turned out was a faulty IDE controller, not the drive, not the cable. Now I can't use /dev/hdb but /dev/hdc is OK. So my set up is /dev/hda(WinXP) and /dev/hdc(gentoo), ie, WinXP is on the first IDE as master and gentoo is on the sec IDE also as master. hdd is the CDROM(sec IDE,slave), to complete the setup. So far I've tried every possible permutation of root, rootnoverify and map. I've tried installing the boot loader on /dev/hda and /dev/hdc. On hda nothing works(error 21). On hdc the boot menu appears and I can boot gentoo but not WinXP Error messages: selected disk does not exist, not found or not a block device, could not find device for boot. Sorry, I can't recall the exact context for these messages but this will give a flavor hopefully. I've tried changing the boot order in the BIOS. I can get gentoo to boot if I tell grub it's on (hd0,0)(?!?!) but WinXP won't boot unless I remove the HD w/gentoo on it and bypass grub altogether. fdisk can see both drives OK. Both drives appear in dmesg w/o errors. Both drives appear in the POST screen -- first drive as '0', second drive as '1' I've scoured the web for an answer and now must turn to the authorities on this list as a last resort. Maxim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is gentoo-wiki.com down?
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:51:09 +0100 Herbert Laubner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Freitag, 9. November 2007 01:21:28 schrieb Dan Farrell: Gentoo-wiki goes down a lot. That's why I keep my documentation elsewhere... How and where? With vim, on my webserver, so I have access to my notes configurations even if I break my router. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vixie cron
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 02:15:44 -0600 Teng Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see, thank you! Do I need add news to /etc/cron.allow? possibly. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Need help enabling iptables support in kernel
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:50:56 +0100 Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if you use IPv6, then this one too. But if you don't absolutely need IPv6, better switch all support for it off, just because it is less confusing that way. Does anybody actually _use_ ipv6 ? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub hell
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:01:24 -0800 (PST) maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi group, Previously I had a problem with hard drive that turned out was a faulty IDE controller, not the drive, not the cable. Now I can't use /dev/hdb but /dev/hdc is OK. So my set up is /dev/hda(WinXP) and /dev/hdc(gentoo), ie, WinXP is on the first IDE as master and gentoo is on the sec IDE also as master. hdd is the CDROM(sec IDE,slave), to complete the setup. So far I've tried every possible permutation of root, rootnoverify and map. I've tried installing the boot loader on /dev/hda and /dev/hdc. On hda nothing works(error 21). On hdc the boot menu appears and I can boot gentoo but not WinXP Error messages: selected disk does not exist, not found or not a block device, could not find device for boot. Sorry, I can't recall the exact context for these messages but this will give a flavor hopefully. I've tried changing the boot order in the BIOS. I can get gentoo to boot if I tell grub it's on (hd0,0)(?!?!) but WinXP won't boot unless I remove the HD w/gentoo on it and bypass grub altogether. fdisk can see both drives OK. Both drives appear in dmesg w/o errors. Both drives appear in the POST screen -- first drive as '0', second drive as '1' I've scoured the web for an answer and now must turn to the authorities on this list as a last resort. Maxim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com notice how I use the grub 'map' command here to make the windows hard drive 'first' for Windows's sake. Here, the boot priority has probably been set in the kernel. http://spore.ath.cx/~dan/config/grub.conf.pascal -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation problem
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:27:25 +0100 Fabio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to install gentoo from a minimal cd. I download the minimal AMD64 iso for my pc.. During the installation i arrived at this point: eth1: PHY reset until link up.. and there is no way to continue..i always obtain this error.. what shoul i do? Bye from Italy Fabio take out eth1 if possible. you can put it back in later when you can deal with it better. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - cvsd
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:09:41 -0600 Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cvs import: cannot make path to /root/ourrpg: Permission denied you should change the permissions of your directories so that they are accessible to cvsd, which might run as some user. and you should put the file somewhere other than /root, as that's root's user space and shouldn't contain data for user services. but that's just my point of view. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] genkernel problems
Are the genkernel messages below caused by bash 3.2's new improved conditional expression processing? If so, anybody have a fix? Thanks. David genkernel --menuconfig all /usr/share/genkernel/gen_funcs.sh: line 96: [: : integer expression expected /usr/share/genkernel/gen_funcs.sh: line 96: [: : integer expression expected /usr/share/genkernel/gen_funcs.sh: line 96: [: : integer expression expected /usr/share/genkernel/gen_funcs.sh: line 46: ${LOGFILE}: ambiguous redirect /usr/share/genkernel/gen_funcs.sh: line 96: [: : integer expression expected /usr/share/genkernel/gen_funcs.sh: line 96: [: : integer expression expected ... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: The setup program seems to have failed.
Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I _highly_ recommend using a the manual install method from the gentoo handbook. It's valuable for many reasons, not the least of which being its flexibility. OK, now I know, I've done it with the manual install, and I like it. But when the liveCD booted and told me to run installer that was misleading. It should say something like You can make a manual install now using Gentoo handbook, or you may try an automated installer by running installer now, but beware its experimental, and doesn't always work. Such message on the liveCD welcome screen, would have saved me quite some time. -- Miernik http://miernik.name/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] ERROR: net-misc/iputils-20070202 failed
This is happening when emerging iputils with +doc USE. If I remove doc from the USE flags list, then it does emerge completely. Any thoughts? Thanks, -- Valmor de Almeida jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl-stylesheets-1.79/html/../co mmon/../co mmon/dbl1sr.dsl:2:66:W: cannot generate system identifier for public snip IIRC you need to re-emerge one/some of the sgml packages; maybe try sgml-common first, and if that doesnt work, run 'equery list | grep -i sgml' to see what else may need to be re-emerged. Google will help with a more definative answer. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Need help enabling iptables support in kernel
Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anybody actually _use_ ipv6 ? Yes! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list