Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Need help enabling iptables support in kernel
I'm pretty sure those changes are from the kernel devs - you would need to ask the lkml people. if it is from the gentoo guys, I find it less annoying than the default editor being nano instead of vi... :) On Nov 13, 2007 11:21 PM, Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been running Gentoo for a few years, and I remember earlier versions of iptables, where everything was on one page. Why do we have to activate the same feature on two separate pages now? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] LTSP sound and readme.
At this link http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ltsp.xml near the bottom in the FAQ there is a question posted about using the soundcard of a workstation. The answer responds that there is a ltsp-sound package in Gentoo and more instructions can be found in the included readme. Doing a search of portage there is only the ltsp package. So where would this sound package be located? I am guessing that this readme would provide those answers, but would anyone know where it is located? Thanks Sean -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Apollon problem (only gnutella works)
Hello, i have apollon installed along with the fasttrack, arez, gnutella and openft plugins. Nevertheless, only Gnutella seems to connect. ¿Does this sounds familiar to anyone? As always, any help, will be appreciated. best wishes Rafael
[gentoo-user] how to detect the throughput in the lan?
Hi, guys! I need to know the total throughput of the LAN in real-time, for example, the total input and output of each node in the LAN. I have used tcpdump. But as I know, it cannot be use to get the statistics of the LAN. Can't you recommend some tools? Thanks in advanced! -- wcw -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Return of packages.gentoo.org?
I started getting results on the RSS feed again this morning after months of being dark. It appears to be back up, although a visit to the web address gives a layout that definitely looks like a work in progress. Still, it's nice to see it back. Aaron -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Return of packages.gentoo.org?
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:52:45 -0500, Aaron Clark wrote: It appears to be back up, although a visit to the web address gives a layout that definitely looks like a work in progress. Still, it's nice to see it back. http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev-announce/msg_00035.xml The fact that this was posted to dev-announce and not announce indicates that it may not be considered ready for public consumption yet. Searching is still on the todo list. -- Neil Bothwick File Not Found - Loading something that looks similar signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] how to detect the throughput in the lan?
On Nov 14, 2007 9:52 AM, Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, guys! I need to know the total throughput of the LAN in real-time, for example, the total input and output of each node in the LAN. I have used tcpdump. But as I know, it cannot be use to get the statistics of the LAN. Can't you recommend some tools? Thanks in advanced! -- wcw -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list eix iftop [I] net-analyzer/iftop Available versions: 0.17 Installed versions: 0.17(02:01:38 03/16/07) Homepage:http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pdw/iftop/ Description: display bandwidth usage on an interface -- - Mark Shields
Re: [gentoo-user] grub hell
On Wednesday 14 November 2007, maxim wexler wrote: Thanks for the suggestions, I tried them all, but none of them worked. Every attempt at tab completion results in: Possible disks are: fd0 fd1 fd2 fd3 fd4 fd5 fd6 fd7 hd0 hd1 just doesn't appear(don't know what all those floppies is about). Any attempt to use it, whether by tab completion or by just entering it at the prompt, results in Error 21: Selected disk does not exist. Well, you could take turns trying out all these fds. I know the drive is OK cause it boots when the boot order in the BIOS starts with the first drive. Grub *should* be able to see what BIOS sees, but clearly this is not the case here. Have you tried reinstalling Grub in the MBR? I think I'll try that old hack where you dd the boot sector to a floppy and copy it to C:\ in Windows. Then you write a .bat file? Details kinda hazy... You'll need to reinstall grub for this solution to work, but install it in your Gentoo /boot partition, not the MBR. (I have not tried it with the MBR image, but you could try that too - pls let me know if it works). Then you dd this and copy it into your WinXP partition so that you can chainload it from NTLDR. Finally, you'll have to edit the boot.ini file to point it to the boot image you just copied in your WinXP partition and you should be able to boot it . . . as long as NTLDR can see the drive in question. :p Well, it's worth giving it a shot I guess. Good luck. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] glibc unmerged by accident
On Nov 13, 2007 10:49 AM, de Almeida, Valmor F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Incidentally, how did you miss the big red warning that emerge gives when you try to unmerge a system package? I was unlucky and stupid for using cut and paste commands while distracted looking at another screen. I didn't look back until the unmerge countdown period was over. Thanks for all the comments and ideas. -- Valmor -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Always good to use the -a flag when unmerging. -- - Mark Shields
Re: [gentoo-user] grub hell
Hi, On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:25:50 + Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know the drive is OK cause it boots when the boot order in the BIOS starts with the first drive. Grub *should* be able to see what BIOS sees, but clearly this is not the case here. Have you tried reinstalling Grub in the MBR? That most likely won't help since what's installed there only stages the real grub binaries which will be most likely the same ones. From what maxim wrote so far it really looks like the BIOS moves the entry for the HD on the first controller out of sight somehow. So probably the BIOS feature of booting off the second controller is the problem here. We can't solve this on the level of grub or the OS, so the only option seems to be to properly install grub to the first HD. I would start with a grub floppy disk or boot CD(-RW) and look what devices that sees when booting. In order to have grub list disks, you enter root ( and press TAB. The same goes for partitions after the setting device and a comma (e.g. (hd0, + TAB). If all devices are seen, then set root (as indicated above) to the partition holding the grub stages (i.e. partition of /boot in Gentoo or /lib/grub/i386-pc/). Then have grub write the MBR using setup (hd0). Note that this will overwrite the Windows MBR, which will make it unbootable at that point. So better before doing that -- from Linux -- backup the MBR: dd if=/dev/hda of=/backup-mbr-hda bs=512 count=1 so you can write it back later. -hwh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to detect the throughput in the lan?
On Wednesday 14 November 2007, Mark Shields wrote: On Nov 14, 2007 9:52 AM, Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, guys! I need to know the total throughput of the LAN in real-time, for example, the total input and output of each node in the LAN. I have used tcpdump. But as I know, it cannot be use to get the statistics of the LAN. Can't you recommend some tools? Thanks in advanced! -- wcw -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list eix iftop [I] net-analyzer/iftop Available versions: 0.17 Installed versions: 0.17(02:01:38 03/16/07) Homepage:http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pdw/iftop/ Description: display bandwidth usage on an interface $ eix -l iptraf [I] net-analyzer/iptraf Available versions: 2.7.0-r1 [ipv6] 3.0.0-r3 [ipv6 suid unicode] 3.0.0-r4 [ipv6 suid unicode] Installed versions: 3.0.0-r4(20:20:41 11/01/07)(-ipv6 -suid unicode) Homepage:http://iptraf.seul.org/ Description: IPTraf is an ncurses-based IP LAN monitor There are so many really. Look into /usr/portage/net-analyzer and browse the web for more info on these that look interesting. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] grub hell
On Wednesday 14 November 2007, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: Hi, On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:25:50 + Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know the drive is OK cause it boots when the boot order in the BIOS starts with the first drive. Grub *should* be able to see what BIOS sees, but clearly this is not the case here. Have you tried reinstalling Grub in the MBR? That most likely won't help since what's installed there only stages the real grub binaries which will be most likely the same ones. Sure, unless something is corrupted in the Grub stages files? I wasn't sure on the circumstances under which the IDE controller in question was fried. From what maxim wrote so far it really looks like the BIOS moves the entry for the HD on the first controller out of sight somehow. Are BIOS' that 'intelligent' these days? So probably the BIOS feature of booting off the second controller is the problem here. We can't solve this on the level of grub or the OS, so the only option seems to be to properly install grub to the first HD. /The only time that I have experience a similar problem was after a drive ribbon was hot unplugged mid-flight. The controller was not fried, not was the drive, but it took sometime to get it going again. Ultimately an investigation revealed that the jumpers at the back of the drives were not effective (cable select would just not work)./ I would start with a grub floppy disk or boot CD(-RW) and look what devices that sees when booting. In order to have grub list disks, you enter root ( and press TAB. The same goes for partitions after the setting device and a comma (e.g. (hd0, + TAB). If all devices are seen, then set root (as indicated above) to the partition holding the grub stages (i.e. partition of /boot in Gentoo or /lib/grub/i386-pc/). Then have grub write the MBR using setup (hd0). Note that this will overwrite the Windows MBR, which will make it unbootable at that point. So better before doing that -- from Linux -- backup the MBR: dd if=/dev/hda of=/backup-mbr-hda bs=512 count=1 so you can write it back later. Alternatively, use a MS Windows installation CD, boot into Recovery Console and run fixmbr on the correct drive. It will reinstall the NTLDR boot code in the MBR and you'll be able to natively boot it again. If you mess up the MS Windows *partition* boot record because instead of hd0 you typed hd0,1 then the command you want is fixboot. I just hate reinstalling MS Windows - it feels sort of wasted time! ;-) HTH. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] grub hell
the only option seems to be to properly install grub to the first HD. grub-install /dev/hda renders the PC completely unusable I would start with a grub floppy disk or boot CD(-RW) and look what Both drives are bootable provided I make a detour to the BIOS and change the boot order. devices that sees when booting. In order to have grub list disks, you dmesg reports ALL drives and appropriate partitions. enter root ( and press TAB. The same goes for partitions after the setting device and a comma (e.g. (hd0, + TAB). Now this is really wierd. When I'm at the prompt using the grub that appears when the PC boots, ie when the second drive is given preference in BIOS, tab completion reports only a string of fdn's followed by hd0. But, when having booted and logged in, I issue the grub command, tab completion reports possible disks as hd0 and hd1 as it should. And it correctly sees the unknown partition on /dev/hda and the four linux partitions on /dev/hdc. But that's with device.map like so: (fd0) /dev/fd0 (hd0) /dev/hda (hd2) /dev/hdc ^!?!? If all devices are seen, then set root (as indicated above) to the partition holding the grub stages (i.e. partition of /boot in Gentoo or /lib/grub/i386-pc/). Then have grub write the MBR using setup (hd0). Note that this will overwrite the Windows MBR, which will make it unbootable at that point. So better OK, this throws me. Isn't it supposed to be bootable? As I said above installing grub to Win-mbr renders the PC unusable. Can't recall the precise error message but even the grub prompt isn't available. before doing that -- from Linux -- backup the MBR: dd if=/dev/hda of=/backup-mbr-hda bs=512 count=1 so you can write it back later. Thanks for the tip, a lot simpler than booting into Win98 and running A:\fdisk /mbr. There's more... I followed the instructions here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Boot_from_Windows_Bootloader_(NTLDR)_and_why And, provided I'm booting from /dev/hda, I'm presented with two choices, Gentoo and XP. XP boots OK but gentoo halts at: GRUB Loading stage1.5 GRUB loading, please wait... Error 21 even though the boot routine is identical to the one that WORKS when the second drive is given boot preference. -mw Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub hell
Hi, On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:27:49 -0800 (PST) maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the only option seems to be to properly install grub to the first HD. grub-install /dev/hda renders the PC completely unusable Hm, yeah, that's why I generally distrust running grub from within an booted OS: You can't be sure that the setting is anywhere near what happens before the OS got loaded (e.g. no ACPI kicking in yet, BIOS disk drivers...). I would start with a grub floppy disk or boot CD(-RW) and look what Both drives are bootable provided I make a detour to the BIOS and change the boot order. Somehow I suspect that the BIOS gets something wrong when you change the boot order. But that's just a suspicion. So my suggestion was to change it to default (first HD first). Then check from a grub running from floppy or CDRW what that can see. So you can try if my suspicion is wrong, what might well be the case: That grub (from floppy or CD) will only see one drive, too, if I'm wrong. Otherwise you know that I was probably right and your only option then is to leave the BIOS boot order untouched. devices that sees when booting. In order to have grub list disks, you dmesg reports ALL drives and appropriate partitions. But that is what _Linux_ sees. Linux has its own drivers, working completely independent from what the BIOS was doing before -- and that's what a grub (at boot stage) has to rely on. So Linux' output only tells us that generally: - your drives are OK, the cabling too. - your controllers are working. But we need to make sure the BIOS initializes everything right. It might not do so if boot order is changed (and from a certain point of view, that might actually be a feature). enter root ( and press TAB. The same goes for partitions after the setting device and a comma (e.g. (hd0, + TAB). Now this is really wierd. When I'm at the prompt using the grub that appears when the PC boots, ie when the second drive is given preference in BIOS, tab completion reports only a string of fdn's followed by hd0. But, when having booted and logged in, I issue the grub command, tab completion reports possible disks as hd0 and hd1 as it should. And it correctly sees the unknown partition on /dev/hda and the four linux partitions on /dev/hdc. But that's with device.map like so: (fd0) /dev/fd0 (hd0) /dev/hda (hd2) /dev/hdc ^!?!? It might be that the second HD is just (hd1). Grub doesn't necessarily follow the kernel way of enumeration. But then again, don't rely on what grub tells when run with an loaded OS. If all devices are seen, then set root (as indicated above) to the partition holding the grub stages (i.e. partition of /boot in Gentoo or /lib/grub/i386-pc/). Then have grub write the MBR using setup (hd0). Note that this will overwrite the Windows MBR, which will make it unbootable at that point. So better OK, this throws me. Isn't it supposed to be bootable? Oh, the Windows MBR is just giving control to the boot block of the partition holding Windows, which itself then stages ntldr. So when I said it'll make it unbootable, I was talking about the Windows MBR. Grub should run anyway nevertheless, and then it should be able to give control to the Windows partition boot block -- but I was just giving a warning that what definately happens is that the Windows MBR is gone. There's more... I followed the instructions here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Boot_from_Windows_Bootloader_(NTLDR)_and_why And, provided I'm booting from /dev/hda, I'm presented with two choices, Gentoo and XP. XP boots OK but gentoo halts at: GRUB Loading stage1.5 GRUB loading, please wait... Error 21 even though the boot routine is identical to the one that WORKS when the second drive is given boot preference. Personally, I don't see much difference, this approach shares similar problems. Apropos problem, error 21 is Selected disk does not exist. I think it might have happened because you probably switched drive order again when doing the Linux based steps descibed in the link you've give. When the MBR is written, it stores references to the stage files. They might point to an invalid location if you change the boot order back again. That's what I think why you're seeing this error. Grub can perfectly from a floppy disk. See info grub (the full grub documentation, the man page is crap) in order to learn how to create a grub floppy disk (or CD/R(W)). You will then be able to set the BIOS boot order to default and see what a freshly booted grub sees then. From within the grub booted this way, you can order grub to setup itself to an MBR or boot block. Basically, you have to set root, then issue setup. The first takes the device of the stage files as argument, the latter the target disk (or partition). After being through this grub hell, at least will have learnt a lot about broken BIOSes and different boot stages of today's PC
[gentoo-user] Re: Return of packages.gentoo.org?
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:52:45 -0500, Aaron Clark wrote: It appears to be back up, although a visit to the web address gives a layout that definitely looks like a work in progress. Still, it's nice to see it back. http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev-announce/msg_00035.xml The fact that this was posted to dev-announce and not announce indicates that it may not be considered ready for public consumption yet. Searching is still on the todo list. It looks like stabilization on any arch brings an ebuild to the top of the list for other arches. E.g., right now acpid-1.0.6-r1 is at the top of http://packages.gentoo.org/arch/x86/stable; it just went stable on amd64, but it's been stable on x86 for a month already. A few kinks won't bother me -- I'm really glad to see p.g.o back up. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: how to detect the throughput in the lan?
Chuanwen Wu wcw8410 at gmail.com writes: I need to know the total throughput of the LAN in real-time, net-analyzer/bwmon quick, clean and easy James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub hell
Grub can perfectly from a floppy disk. See info grub (the full grub documentation, the man page is crap) in order to learn how to create a grub floppy disk (or CD/R(W)). You will then be able to set the BIOS boot order to default and see what a freshly booted Arrgh! Now I learn this box won't boot from a floppy! It bipasses the floppy completely unless I disable ALL the drives except the floppy and then I get: Invalid boot diskette: insert BOOT disk in A:\ Huh? Maybe it's because this is a Dell PIII and requires a proprietary DOS boot disk. There seems to be two methods from what I can find on the Web: copying menu.lst to /mnt/floppy/boot/grub and copying /boot/grub/stage1 and /boot/grub/stage2 to a floppy I tried them both without success. Of course I can still boot the gentoo-install CD but then I have to chroot to run grub which puts me back in the hole. Now, I don't have a burner on the PIII, but I have one on another box. Can someone suggest a method to burn a grub-boot CD that won't leave me with a coaster -- got plenty of those :( -mw Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub hell
I came to this late and missed most of the thread so apologies if this has been covered. Did you mount /proc into /mnt/gentoo before chroot'ing? (see install docs) This allows grub to correctly sense the drive map for writing the boot sectors. Some early MB's changed the drive map depending on what disk/media (i.e., cdrom) you booted from so grub wrote a correct map at the time, then the MB changed the mapping on the HD boot. Fix was to intelligently guess the correct drive and write it manually using grub. A later bios update allowed some control at the bios level which made it easier. Billk On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 18:36 -0800, maxim wexler wrote: Grub can perfectly from a floppy disk. See info grub (the full grub documentation, the man page is crap) in order to learn how to create a grub floppy disk (or CD/R(W)). You will then be able to set the BIOS boot order to default and see what a freshly booted Arrgh! Now I learn this box won't boot from a floppy! It bipasses the floppy completely unless I disable ALL the drives except the floppy and then I get: Invalid boot diskette: insert BOOT disk in A:\ Huh? Maybe it's because this is a Dell PIII and requires a proprietary DOS boot disk. There seems to be two methods from what I can find on the Web: copying menu.lst to /mnt/floppy/boot/grub and copying /boot/grub/stage1 and /boot/grub/stage2 to a floppy I tried them both without success. Of course I can still boot the gentoo-install CD but then I have to chroot to run grub which puts me back in the hole. Now, I don't have a burner on the PIII, but I have one on another box. Can someone suggest a method to burn a grub-boot CD that won't leave me with a coaster -- got plenty of those :( -mw Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub hell
Now, I don't have a burner on the PIII, but I have one on another box. Can someone suggest a method to burn a grub-boot CD that won't leave me with a coaster -- got plenty of those :( -mw http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/ I use this cd image and it works like a treat. - Noven -- -- Novensiles divi Flamen -- Miles Militis Fons -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Apollon problem (only gnutella works)
On (14/11/07 11:34) Rafael Barrera Oro wrote: Hello, i have apollon installed along with the fasttrack, arez, gnutella and openft plugins. Nevertheless, only Gnutella seems to connect. ¿Does this sounds familiar to anyone? As always, any help, will be appreciated. best wishes Rafael Hi, Is there a firewall present ? Try changing the ports (to higher values) some ISP block lower ports. HTH. Rumen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
