Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Question...
On Friday 21 December 2007 18:46:52 Mick wrote: The problem with some distros installation scripts is that they are trying to be too clever for their own good. As a result they some times behave like MS Windows and unless you whip them into submission they could trash your system! Exactly the cause of my nervousness. What I always do is to create the partitions and LV that I want and then instruct the distro in question to install itself in there. Of course if the distro in question does not have an LVM compatible kernel then you'll need to install it using a different medium (with a kernel that has all the necessary drivers) and untar the distro's fs into your partitions of choice. So much simpler just to manage my own partitions. Good for the confidence, too, not to mention the feeling of knowing what's going on. The rest of the world will no doubt continue to keep up with all the latest developments, but in this respect I prefer to remain a dinosaur. (They did, after all, rule the world for hundreds of millions of years, even if they're not still around today - thousands of times longer than we can yet claim.) -- Rgds Peter -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Sudden XP death
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 08:13:35 +0100, Thierry de Coulon wrote: You are right that XP should work - or you can install it on a virtual machine. I am not sure what advantages you get from running vmware from a partition (unless of course you also want to dual boot). I doubt that would work. The virtual machine identifies itself as different hardware from the host, so the MS profit-protection would kick in, claiming you were trying to run the same copy of the OS on two different computers. -- Neil Bothwick All wight - Rho sritched mg kegtops awound? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Paludis newbie questions [was: Excellent Paludis interview]
On Saturday 22 December 2007 20:09:40 David Relson wrote: As I'm a paludis newbie and as it allows a multitude of settings, I used portage2paludis.bash to create /etc/paludis/use.conf. Whatever is missing from use.conf is a combination of my ignorance and the script. A copy of use.conf is attached. From use.conf: */* [...] -ipv6 - isdnlog [...] ^^^ Right after -ipv6 there's a minus that disables no flag... ;) -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel File not found
I just finished a re-install of my laptop to get multilib working and grub apparently can't find the kernel this time. I've tried grub and grub-static. I get this: root (hd0,0) Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 kernel /boot /kernel-2.6.22-hardened-r8 root: /dev/sda3 Error 15: File not found I'm using all of the config files that were working perfectly on the previous install. The only things out of the ordinary are: 1. I forgot to copy the kernel into the boot partition the first time I rebooted and got this same error. I booted the LiveCD again and copied it over after mounting /dev/sda3 and /dev/sda1. I thought for sure that would fix it but no. I've verified that the correctly named kernel file is in /mnt/gentoo/boot when /dev/sda1 is mounted. grub.conf is from my previous install and references the kernel file correctly. 2. I used -fforce-addr in make.conf this time even though I don't know what it does because it was included in the default make.conf. Any ideas? - Grant When the grub menu comes up, hit e twice and then try to use tab completion to find it and the arrow keys to navigate. That may help. Tab completion works like it does in a console. Sort of neat really. Great! Tab competion is awesome. I had to specify the path like so: kernel /kernel-2.6.22-hardened-r8 root=/dev/sda3 instead of /boot/kernel-2.6.22-hardened-r8. Does anyone know why that might be? Thanks Dale. I hope that helps. Dale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel File not found
Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 kernel /boot /kernel-2.6.22-hardened-r8 root: /dev/sda3 Error 15: File not found There should be no space between /boot and /kernel. Actually just a transcription error. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel File not found
On Sunday 23 December 2007, Grant wrote: When the grub menu comes up, hit e twice and then try to use tab completion to find it and the arrow keys to navigate. That may help. Tab completion works like it does in a console. Sort of neat really. Great! Tab competion is awesome. I had to specify the path like so: kernel /kernel-2.6.22-hardened-r8 root=/dev/sda3 instead of /boot/kernel-2.6.22-hardened-r8. Does anyone know why that might be? Thanks Dale. The path you specify in the kernel line is relative to the partition specified in the root line (which should be tha partition whose filesystem contains the kernel image). If your /boot is on a separate partition, this means that using kernel /boot/kernel would be incorrect, since there is no /boot directory in the partition mounted in /boot. Rather, all the files are located at the first level (from grub's (hd0,0) standpoint). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] dev-haskell/{cabal,haxml} -- runaway memory hog
In a routine upgrade, I get the following message from several haskell components: * The package dev-haskell/cabal is not correctly installed for * the currently active version of ghc (6.8.2). Please * run ghc-updater or re-emerge dev-haskell/cabal. So I tried running ghc-updater, and it hangs emerging haxml by gradually absorbing all available CPU time, memory, and swap, eventually the oom killer kills firebird, and eventually I realize something is going on and kill ghc-updater. Emerging haxml directly repeats the greedy performance, and when I kill it, it gives me this message: * The 'prerm' phase of the 'dev-haskell/haxml-1.13.2' package has failed * with exit value -1. The problem occurred while executing the ebuild * located at '/var/db/pkg/dev-haskell/haxml-1.13.2/haxml-1.13.2.ebuild'. * If necessary, manually remove the ebuild in order to skip the execution * of removal phases. What the heck is going on here, and how do I manually remove haxml? I know nothing of haskell; it is merged only because I use darcs. The ebuild mentioned is short and has no prerm anywhere in it. This happens on both a ~x86 machine and a ~amd64 machine. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel File not found
Grant wrote: Great! Tab competion is awesome. I had to specify the path like so: kernel /kernel-2.6.22-hardened-r8 root=/dev/sda3 instead of /boot/kernel-2.6.22-hardened-r8. Does anyone know why that might be? Thanks Dale. IIRC, grub-install creates a symlink in /boot named boot wich points to /boot: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ll /boot/boot lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 1 1. Jul 00:01 /boot/boot - . Now you can write kernel /kernel-x-y-z and kernel /boot/kernel-x-y-z and both lines will point to the same kernel ;) -- Johann Schmitz http://www.j-schmitz.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] perl's Chatbot::Eliza
Hi folks, any idea whether portage contains perl's Chatbot::Eliza. And if so, where I can find it? I looked around in portage but couldn't find it. Maybe it just isn't there. Uwe -- If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman listens to him, is he still lying? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] perl's Chatbot::Eliza
Am Sonntag, 23. Dezember 2007 schrieb Uwe Thiem: any idea whether portage contains perl's Chatbot::Eliza. And if so, where I can find it? I looked around in portage but couldn't find it. Maybe it just isn't there. It doesn't need to be, you can emerge g-cpan and use it to emerge any perl module from cpan. HTH... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
RE: [gentoo-user] brlcad users here?--RESOLVED
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:33:52 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just to clarify: What does a 'pre-compiled binary' do? I meant just regular binary files, which have been compiled -- as opposed to the source files (non-compiled ;) ). Sorry for being unclear. :) -- Arttu V. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Paludis newbie questions [was: Excellent Paludis interview]
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 12:45:03 +0100 Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Saturday 22 December 2007 20:09:40 David Relson wrote: As I'm a paludis newbie and as it allows a multitude of settings, I used portage2paludis.bash to create /etc/paludis/use.conf. Whatever is missing from use.conf is a combination of my ignorance and the script. A copy of use.conf is attached. From use.conf: */* [...] -ipv6 - isdnlog [...] ^^^ Right after -ipv6 there's a minus that disables no flag... ;) -- Bo Andresen Bo, Good eye! /etc/make.conf had the same - isdnlog string. With the space removed, paludis is much happier. I suspect a better worded message would have let me find the mistake Thank you. David -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] perl's Chatbot::Eliza
On 23 December 2007, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Sonntag, 23. Dezember 2007 schrieb Uwe Thiem: any idea whether portage contains perl's Chatbot::Eliza. And if so, where I can find it? I looked around in portage but couldn't find it. Maybe it just isn't there. It doesn't need to be, you can emerge g-cpan and use it to emerge any perl module from cpan. Thanks! Got it by now. Eliza still is the amazing thing it was a couple of decades ago when Weizenbaum wrote it. ;-) Uwe -- If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman listens to him, is he still lying? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Sudden XP death
I doubt that would work. The virtual machine identifies itself as different hardware from the host, so the MS profit-protection would kick in, claiming you were trying to run the same copy of the OS on two different computers. -- Neil Bothwick Mebbe I'm confusing wine with vmware. I need to run a XP-specific CAD program. So, it has to be installed in XP and XP must be installed on the first partition of the HDD, right? -mw Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Dell PowerEdge 2600 / 2800? AMI / LSI MegaRAID driver?
On Thursday 20 December 2007, Stroller wrote: ... I was expecting something similar to when I've hotplugged SATA drives on my desktop machine. What controller is in that, please? Does it do hardware RAID, or is it just a regular SATA controller? I've done it using both the onboard controllers: nVidia nForce4 CK804 SATA, and Silicon Image SiI 3114. They both claim RAID but I'm sure it's done by the driver in both cases. stated that SATA controllers are not _required_ to support hot- plugging, either. This makes choosing an SATA more complicated, of Eek! Maybe I'm just lucky, but I've swapped the SATA drive from my laptop to my desktop and back quite a few times without an issue. Friends have hotplugged their drives into this machine too many times with no ill effects. We plug the power into the drive first, then once it's spun up insert the SATA data cable. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] 2.6.23 and xorg delayed startup
I just upgraded my kernel from 2.6.19 to 2.6.23 and it takes almost a minute for X to start now. I have changed window managers (normally ctwm, tested with twm) with the same results. I rebooted the 2.6.19 kernel and X fires right up as expected. Booting back to 2.6.23 and it's excruciatingly long. I saw some prior posts which indicated a network problem, but in that case the OP said that the loopback interface wasn't up. I checked my system (ifconfig) and both lo and eth0 are up and running. I do have this error from startx, though: Couldn't establish a connection to :9202: IO::Socket::INET: Bad hostname ':9202' I forgot to check if I had that error when running 2.6.19... I tried a web search for this type of error and came up empty. What part of X would this error be from? Thanks! -- -M There are 10 kinds of people in this world: Those who can count in binary and those who cannot. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] smartd Prefailure messages
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:08:36 -0600 Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It makes me wonder if the drives are sensitive to something. This seems to be common with Maxtor. Is Hitachi made by the same company as Maxtor I wonder? I've been told Hitachi bought up IBM's drive manufacturing operation a few years ago, but am not sure if it's true. I think of all three as inferior drive manufacturers that aren't to be trusted, if it can be avoided. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] smartd Prefailure messages
On Montag, 24. Dezember 2007, Dan Farrell wrote: On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:08:36 -0600 Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It makes me wonder if the drives are sensitive to something. This seems to be common with Maxtor. Is Hitachi made by the same company as Maxtor I wonder? I've been told Hitachi bought up IBM's drive manufacturing operation a few years ago, but am not sure if it's true. I think of all three as inferior drive manufacturers that aren't to be trusted, if it can be avoided. Maxtor got bought by Seagate Hitachi bought IBM's harddisk operations. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] smartd Prefailure messages
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Montag, 24. Dezember 2007, Dan Farrell wrote: On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:08:36 -0600 Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It makes me wonder if the drives are sensitive to something. This seems to be common with Maxtor. Is Hitachi made by the same company as Maxtor I wonder? I've been told Hitachi bought up IBM's drive manufacturing operation a few years ago, but am not sure if it's true. I think of all three as inferior drive manufacturers that aren't to be trusted, if it can be avoided. Maxtor got bought by Seagate Hitachi bought IBM's harddisk operations. So they are two different drives then, manufacturer wise? Makes me think about those errors even more. Strange. Dale :-) :-)